say it serves as a reminder and the dose of south themselves as champions of democracy, have often built their power on the ruins of democracies. the 1953 qu, they argue, is just one glaring example of that type. of course, the use of data on a r t to one know if elected us president. again, donald trump said he could in the print conflict in one day. is there something significant behind the pledge, or is it simply a hollow boast made in the midst of an election race across so that makes the

the hello and welcome to proud stop bull horns on peter live out here we discussed some real news, which was really be able to bring the conflict in ukraine to an end, given the forces arrayed against him. trunel says he would end the conflict before being inaugurated. what would his deal look like?

to discuss these issues and more, i'm joined by my guess. jordan, samuel, we in budapest, he is a pod cast, read the goggle, which can be found on youtube and local stand in america. we have martin j. he is and award winning journalist and commentator for a gentleman crossed up rules. and the fact that news can jump any time you want, and i always appreciated quite, let's kick it off with george included as well. is becoming real, george. i mean, you know, we have heard trouble said throughout the campaign that he would end because went in ukraine in 24 hours. he's even given a call the recently before he was and i'll get rated if he is victorious and november. um and looking at the convention. um there's a, there has been a lot of, there hasn't been a lot of commentary about few wasn't there. and a lot of the old neil comes very well known individuals lives, chaney and bill crystal ball, ryan, and many, many others like pens. they weren't in there. j. the vance was there. mike pompeo was there as well. i think you get my drift here. you know,

trump is his election prospects are looking good. um and so we have to think hard about the reality that he may inherit this more than bite and started slave. that's exactly right. and um, trump has been quite skillful in maintaining and i'm big usa. us do well in the 1st that is what exactly america 1st really means. but in the 2nd place, how you will resolve this problem that in ukraine because it goes to a yes, there are other people like a j, the bands. they take it to me in them. all right, the 1st we, we focus on america's problems. we don't waste our resources on the peripheral issues such as your crime. but oh is, well there room such as you get a powerful congressional, cham and like michael more cool. and their idea of america for us is what we go in

and we own like button gave you a credit in the tools to finish the job. so that is that, yeah, yeah, the, you know what the trunk will do is very different from of buying book. he will actually help ukraine when this will. well, that's completely the opposite. but what trump has been saying there's a trump has been gliding by without having to do exactly spell out. i mean, they've been various papers written by people associated with the american 1st policy institute, like going frederick flights and uh keith kellogg. um, but the trump is never getting those to any of those plans. so yes, he says he's going to end this in 24 hours, but it's never any given us, some idea of how exactly that will be accomplished or what exactly that you know, final kind of, uh, anything of the will will look like. yeah. line you, i think it was on friday, the drum had a conversation with the, the,

now it legitimate president of ukraine zelinski and the read out from both sides was kind of boiler plate to me was an excellent, perfect tell about all of his, with his drug like sikes to say that they made it sound like there was a lot of agreement, but nothing, nothing, nothing was specified, no details. whereas best, like, for example, endorsing the, the china and proposal or a of an african proposal or reacting to a poor new said repeatedly about how many goes asians. because i know the details were given except they weren't agreement. that's, that's not encouraging. well, they were in agreement to the idea of trump wasting his magic wand, encouraging a solution for everyone, including the landscape, but nothing, nothing for us as not know details because i don't think some of the details at this point. you know, and i think if it is, if your insurance gets position, probably a very wary of trump. you know, it's a, it's, it's

a little bit like shaking hands with the devil. you know, one minute from can be your friend the next minute. you can be your biggest enemy if, if you just don't react the way you was needed, you to rattle the time and respect his particular requirements when it, when it comes to media or whatever. so i think i'm probably listening skills training very carefully. amazing. simply had a conversation because, you know, everybody's now is just assuming that we're gonna have trump in the white house. and he's now going to have to live up to this, this declaration you made a long time ago. these gonna fix your credit and in 24 hours and nobody actually really believes that, you know, the russians have been taking very suitable restore approach to it that i think the official statement was let us know. they were gonna stick, you know, and trump made the statement before about fixing them, at least when he was president and the facts. you know, it's sort of them hacks like me who actually look at them at least and say, well actually, if you have not done what you did with this well,

and i'm given israel the, the impetus and the status that you didn't go on show in the from comp elizabeth took in regards to a brown, the coats and shifting capitals and acknowledged in westminster. how in north dakota all these things, you know, perhaps the october 7th events wouldn't happened because link the to, you know, think when you go back to and you're going to pick a picture. i think october, the 7th was a huge um, circuit breaker sitting for, for the palestinians. i'm part of that was that they go sold down the river with the bombing codes by everybody, including the harps, you know, so i think he's in a pickle and i will in myself, to his proposal, months ago or wherever it was years ago that he was so ukraine warning today because he would just pull it up and say, right, you know, i'm getting more might the end of the us funding and not more or less would be the silver bullet, but it's actually a bit more complicated than that. and i think,

i think what we're seeing reality is that he will pull off a seesaw in his 1st week and office. but taking it further from that, it's can be very, very difficult because there a whole bag of complications the which was that initially when he made those statements. one of which this has been mentioned by georgias daddy vance who doesn't give it to who it's about ukraine. i'm but i is sick. sing up the rest right now. so we'll say, well, i'm in china. and so that complicates things you feel of was russia signing any sort of a piece deal in ukraine? you know, there's lots and lots of news now. so then that's always a good copy of that. we mentioned on this program and you can have as many ideas and proposals as you want, but there for us, it isn't at the table. we've been in the, it's just a, a lot of detail, lity georgine, you and i pointed out in the past. and maybe it's a um, immaterial detail. but when trump has said, you know,

he wants this resolved before. he is a nag you rated this kind of interesting to me and maybe it's a reach, but i've always felt and i've always felt that there was a mistake on the part of his movement. is this the call this by who's wards in degree and he does things in south of from it. and he doesn't want this war on his watch. he has a lot of other things he wants to do. it maybe that's just read a reach and then reading into something that isn't their thoughts. well, i think that's right. i mean, who is famously, i think daniel patrick moynihan told richard nixon just as he was taking office in january 1969 the unless you bring this war and the time to an end in no time. and so this will be known as nixon's war, but until then it has been johnson's will, and i was going to be nixon's well, and that's in fact what happened. the nixon wasn't able to bring this war to an immediate conclusion. alex was he then god blamed for the war, and i think trump consciously or unconsciously just thinking along those lines that

are in no time a tool and the democrats are very, very good at the elliptical marketing will say, hey, this is drums floor trump has made a hash of this trunk problem is that he would bring this to an end. he hasn't brought it to an end. it's actually even worse than he was. it's trunk floor. so he, he once begin this office planes, but it's the easiest. send them down now. um the, the issue of, well, you know, what, and then their suggestions of this from being the boss and their suggestions of this from this fred flights and that keeps kellogg road was paid before the might of thought. and so as far as the skills that, well, what they're going to do is go to zelinski and say, well, unless you show up for a peace conference with russia, we're going to cover of your assistance. and then they go to the russians and say, well, unless you show up to the strong points and, and clearly indicate that you want to, uh, and this will,

we're going to double our assistance to ukraine. so i think that they've been very queued um, but then the, even if this happens, even if the, you know, and that's possibility of, of i get this conference going and that's pro. and so that's getting realizes that the days of it is based on process without russia are over. i think you've come, willing says that if we have a conference and roster has to attend. but even if that happens, then where do we go from here? yeah, you may want to put a ceasefire in place, but what would be the point of that? the one selling point that i think trump has the, which is a lot of off this from buying that he doesn't care about nato. and so that whole issue of, oh, where, you know, open the door to nato for you. great. you know, every country has a right to decide little in joining a control. doesn't care about that. so that at least could be both on was yours. okay. they get hold of more. so george of the market right now, nato is going to do whatever the us wants at the end of the day at the end of the

day. that's what it's going to be. they can, they can have all of their p, r and they're complaining and trunk proofing and all that. but once the word is out from washington, nato will follow on. but that doesn't make things simple. go ahead mark. now, i mean as well. next we can be around to, i mean, since you're pretty small, people certainly much smaller people to me, photos of them. so i'm out running this up. it's the same. that is main service on a self destruction cause i think, um, i don't think some would have any problem in going down history. being the capitalist who bought that about, you know, he, the product from school is that whichever what he lose is going to come from a film collision with you or, and is, there is so many signals. now the americans are heading to the trade will here of trump on funds. now want to hike up types with china effects on a whole lot of goods right across the will not only with china, but with the europeans as well. and it's, it's done that wiggle room that doesn't have delivery. so you said that, you know,

america basically is nathan nathan was america. if he has a massive time from and sense to present scalar, you're not only having normal aid from america. you have a normal aid from nato, and you from the big players individually in europe. that could be a huge game change that could, that could be, you know, pretty amazing that could stop every say and get people to focus. mine's got in those articles that i think you're referring to, but the meetings on the phone go sorry. between to lensky and trump. there were a couple of tiny details and gentlest for the 10th. one of them was the full key regions, you know, which are on in, on the dispute and was a, so then you would give them up. it's written the message, this is out of the question. those lensky in no way could get those readings up, which then throws the spotlight back on so lensky and how he come over night in my view, go from being a friend to the so withdrawn and let himself reaction to that was going to be well,

you are the problem now, so you have to go, you know, and, and the problem is lucy's golf course is that it was due to me see, you know, you mentioned earlier, there is not the person anymore. yeah. how much longer than that go on for when you have these international piece conferences and where russia, what are the video bridge showing our viewers very clearly health problem. ag drums problem is i'm going to jump in here. we're going to go to a short break, and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion on try and you can say without the take a fresh look around his life. kaleidoscopic isn't just a shifted reality distortion by power to division with no real opinions. fixtures designed to simplify it will confuse who really wants a better wills and is it just because it shows you fractured images, presented to this, but can you see through their illusion going underground?

can scott bennett, i'm a former united states army psychological warfare officer, really served in the state department counterterrorism office under investor del daily the . so i wanted to come here to russia in the dawn bass area and to gather the facts, to take back to the american people. the hold on bass of the front lines and the square, the bombs and the bullets are raging. this is where people are dying. this is where

the buildings are exploding the all. i wanted to see 1st hand the scars of war. the welcome back to cross. i pulled orange. i'm beautiful though dear. were discussing some real news. ok, george. i need to go back to you. so come question in peace. don't worry to crate. you might think though, we should remember that. okay. more than, you know, it looks at it very with any varies with a very sober mind, but miss biden's entire ukraine policy has not been so, but it's been extremely reckless. and people are attached to this. i mean, it's pax americana. it is maintaining, had gemini, the, they,

the effort to the and it's like the strategic, the beat on russia is just as real now as it was for years charge. so that's exactly right. and i think that's where the problems are going to arise for chrome . because the republican party, along with the democrats, um, supports this war and i mean by the republican, but being on big large proportion of it. let me so like when, when that's 61000000000 dollar package for ukraine was passed a few weeks ago. but basically, you know, the, the senate republicans softly congressional republicans supported it. so that's really a trumps problem that exist. if he does go down this month, if he decides to bite the bullet and the spend that goes along and says, well, this, this war and you've written, it makes no sense. i think it makes no sense for us to wage war against russia. we need russia as an ally against china, which i think probably is what he really thinks,

even though you know that it's been consistently thing that says, way of 16. so therefore, let's you know, this has nothing to do with our america with our interest. let's just bring it to an end. he is going to come into conflict immediately with uh, a good congressional republicans. and they are very unhappy about that because the input they and that it was. well now say we need to do you agree with everything it needs to get the job done to the feed bruship. so ultimately, he's going to have to build a construct this problem that his own party is deeply divided on this issue in a fruitless river. let's remember who's of his own speaker. you know um michael, mike, but he doesn't. you know, mike johnson, he's the one to push. that's 61000000000 dollar by is for your grades, so you're going to keep him happy. is it? so it's going to be very difficult for him. and you mentioned about the impeachment . yeah, that's a real possibility. i mean the lead people like lindsey graham and,

and michael mccaul and all the rest of them. they're not just going to sit still and, and watch. uh you, ukraine, that's basically it all we, ukraine is being sold down the river when we're getting food and everything will be of george. we see the rushing gate rearing its ugly head. you can no rush. it gave him a get. okay, this is already up in the mix right now, martin, you know, it's interesting when we, when mike from pale we actually spoke at the, at the convention trying to, um, uh, uh, take on or uh, uh, approached re to himself what america 1st is, which is definitely the complete, diametrically opposed to what someone like from and well from what we know of a vans been there are other people around johnny ran flip robert o'brien, rick right now. so i don't see them going along with the trunk of bands vision here. i mean it's, we can say there's just going to be congressional resistance, but even within his,

with ministration. if he's thinking about mike pay or marco rubio, i don't know. i would think that the, the, the, the impeachment process will be set up in january. he's got some problems, he definitely has some problems which he, he couldn't possibly soto and visions a earlier on when he made this a read over simplistic statements. but you claim you probably isn't gonna be result in a day or a week for or, or i think and model. so i think it's going to be a long standing issue, a sorta inside of trump and his new administration. what was interesting for me about the conference is the 3 brits who turned out of 95 this trust and both johnson what really shocked me. and i really just opened my jewel just listening for drill. i could not believe peter, how much time trump gave to burst johnson and the restaurants remote this with the british pressed the wrong articles and the independence saying basically the bar as

johnson has more or less convince from that so he needs to can continue the campaign with ukraine against russia and the front of the even gets pressed covers the fact that the boy is johnson got the time to talk to him. it gives you an indication, but he's not quite so gone. how and quite so binary. now on the new kinds he was before, he's prepared to work with the other people who are on the well to a very close to ukraine is i of course don't some golf to be was landscape. i really have to pick up. people just have at least one big. that's really how can you hide just thing boy, just, just to go around the well, just basically, you know, promote seeing your cravings, lensky, he's not the old one. he's not going there. but where is that still going to and you know, i think it could go either way, but it's, we, we might be support. we might be surprised. but actually, trump reaching out more to who's a lives you know, onto how to find a diplomatic solution which gives him still the price. i'm the and the, the,

the international procedure they need, the way this thing about the whole thing of your credit for me is you have this relationship between a, trump and kitchen. and one has to ask this question. what's it based on? is it based on from one thing to do huge business in the countries that creates another as a real control over real estate, whatever. um or is it just an operation, or is it the wrong by do the russian secret service will go all sorts of things on from the he's worried about. it's really amusing how this continues, but i just don't see how it so i think, you know, george, i think it's kind of more common sense. i mean, why should the united states and rush should be enemies? why? oh, yeah, well yeah, of them sort. so that's exactly right, and i think that's the look instinctively trump of the stuff, but when the cold war came to an end and the book, but the well what, what, what's,

what's this of the photo? um, i don't think that there's any real um relationship between from russia and i think it was the least steven co and your supply down. you know, trump is actually one of the few kind of leading businessman in the united states or hasn't made a lot of money in roster a another. you know, he's talked about various projects building of trump. uh, but he's never really uh, pull that oh, i think that's what he does see brush up as a potential ally against china. he believes in the brands believes that china is a looming threat and, and that's, and they basically have to have to mobilize them really alliance, but extensive, you know, it's, it's still worth having, you have to mobilize it against the china. i mean, i think you would like to downgrade the europeans in as well as look at where we will contain russia. but you do that, that, that's your task. another idea of europeans that you know that that's what you need

to focus on. we will focus on china, is that what we, we will reorient though, so those 2 contain china in asia. i think that's what he would like. the ukraine is just as old a message here with you. and you know, you can either way, it has to be resolved, but um, you know, the but it was like, so you know, we can take the oregon and so far is johnson. so we're all around goes through the trunk because yeah, yeah, yeah. trump told me he's going to bring this to an end, not full of confidence that the lady knows as though he's going to bring it to. and then um and then the bar is done. so says yeah, i'm absolutely confident going to drop those up to do with you, craig. so what does that deal is? it does look from just sent that tells you his name to lock. you does what they want to hit was on the was going to come to an end of the test to bring it to an end hidden him by, by the time he is in order to rate the bar is johnson says you have to go guy trump, the season is with us on the need, so he's going to do so you're guaranteed

a wrong is the made disappoint to everyone customer if you don't mind, you know, so we've talked about what barnes johns and things and j. b. vance. and maybe what trumps and they came out and thought about watching the russians care about any of this conversation. yeah, and that's a very good point. um, but i think that the, if you look at the, i see all of patient and you go back long enough when there was a possibility of russia in the european union and america coming close together and even russia becoming part of nature. let's think he's our deal and so his rule ideology is that russia should be both the way it should be integrated, more, you know, so from a business point of view, from a duplicate point of view, from a piece point of view, i don't, i don't believe put in there's a little longer, i know there was so many people in the 3rd and a small to me on social media for that, but i just don't buy it. i never saw a kitchen name, but keeping martin, i mean, i mean, you know there's, there's the anesthesia is to all of this. i mean, um, um, if you look at it at

a distance the, i'm good was very kind of a much of a liberal when he started out then in this chain. why? because the west is a club in russia is not invited certainly thing. but i mean, what do you do if you're not invited? okay, you have to go your own way. yeah. but i think doesn't do that most of the think. i think trump, i go today, is there a way long? got a loan. yeah. well yeah, i mean, nor do we even had the, the, the, the foreign minister loved roughly it is that you can actually me something i said to you when that comes with this in part of the complex and you're going started. this is going to be a breach covering and generation generations. george. yes, i think that that's right. i, i do think the russians would like the, the, to written to some kind of, uh, no mallet the normal races, but it will trade trade. yeah, exactly, but it's not, it isn't going to happen any time, any time really in the foreseeable future. and i think that's because one of your

has decided to do with your business. i'd have to mobilize itself, mobilize that entire, go to europe in continents against russia, is done it without any real concern for its own interest. but it is what it is mobilize. it is now going to be very, very difficult for all that has happened oper. oh, you know, all of sending all of this military assistance in order to kill russians. it's going to be very difficult. oh, okay. what do you really mean if, let's, let's go back to the good old days of what good old days will be scaled. elmwood cole in the bar is the old channel on gillum pulling the young boots and just isn't going to happen. and uh, they give it to it and let me get them. i think you some ideas of your hopes along the russians that well, maybe we can do that, but that's just not all. it's marvin finish it up for the last 30 seconds. go ahead . i think the take away now. so for me, for the last few days, looking at all these huge events is the holistic news from brussels. but it was

like one delay and it's got to have another 5 years in part. what does that tell you about health and stuff? that's a european solution to a european problem. good luck. and she's already re buying your fist on the table. i'm talking about, you know, getting morgan, who were china and empowering more, but money off to good money into the ukraine. black hole, you know, it, it, so many people of said to me on social media, this is fantastic news because it means in the long term, it's going to be some sort of revolution in the countries and much, much more, you know, other, you know, what you're stuck with it unfortunately, but it's curbside when you're you're a bit stuck and we'll see if the republican party is stuck on. we heard a lot of good things, but a lot of bad people still hanging around on a think, my guess in budapest, in may of america actually. and of course i want to think of yours for watching you see are to see you next time. remember across the apples, the,

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