the, the max juniors on see and welcome back to going underground, broke out single around the world from the middle east, while the us and its allies continued to. i'm zalinski and ukraine, and that's in yahoo! in israel president vladimir persian today observes russia's day of remembrance and sorrow. the anniversary of the soviet union's victory in world war 2 and 27000000 russians were killed by nazis the most of any allied country. this just weeks after russia was banned from neo nazi linked frances the de commemoration. earlier this week, there was panic in nature, legacy media or of opinions, visits north korea. despite his attempts to reach out to hand to piece, the russian president's cool facies fire and ukraine was rejected by a nature that continues to facilitate is really pm netanyahu's genocide and gaza.

one of the world's greatest john lists as being fantasy reporting on garza and ukraine and reading fluids. the nature of so called main stream media is trying to silence. he's editor in chief of the grey zone, co director of killing gaza and best selling author of the 51 day will ruin and resistance in gaza. mex blumenthal joins me again from washington dc. thank you so much max for coming back on. i mentioned all of that to the day of remembrance and sorrow, not because this program also goes out on a t. but because i think most people around the world uh, gratefully, soviet union play the part in defeating the nazis. you meanwhile, for all of your work over so many is have been attacked for years. i understand social media is banned, you funding is being tried to have taken away from you. and now on all the goc run newspaper goal, the washington post. it is published at so many lies over the decades,

has attacked to just quickly summarize what, what they've done to try and destroy you your organization and try to capitalize perhaps we have pre i or the, or the police to arrest your stuff as well. this is the 2nd intelligence inspired attack on the gray zone this year by the washington post. think the 2nd largest paper in the united states, owned by one of the world's 3 richest men, jeff bezos, who signed a deal with a c. i a to hosted cloud for $600000000.00 at amazon, just days after you purchased the washington post. in both cases, these attacks relied heavily on fronts for us and as rarely intelligence. this article, this most recent article by the washington post so called digital threats editor, joseph men, cited current, us current and former us intelligence officials, as one of its sources against us. and it represents an escalation against

independent journalism and specifically independent media that is busting little lies and propaganda that israel has distilled since october 7 to justify genocide, which was really the topic of our last conversation, which went viral and so many different formats and which has been confirmed and corroborated not only by as rarely media, but by the latest, independent un reports. and so what we're talking about with this article as an escalation is a reporter from a paper that boldly declares that democracy dies. and doctors trying to stick with the f, b i, and other 3 letter agencies on our editor. why it read simply because 4 years ago, wyatt listed himself as a producer for press tv, which is the ronnie and state broadcast. or i should say, i was bored, i should say i, i worked for it up to the bbc for a short time. clicking i,

they never told me what to do compared to the bbc when i worked there on the today program. sorry, go ahead. well, according to the washington post and the various books it mobilized, you violated us sanctions simply because you did work for press tv. uh they relied on hack documents to expose a legit payments made to wyatt and they framed it as iranian government payments to a leader of the great zone know and initially to leaders of the greys own as though i were on the i was on the take from iran, they retracted, that is the taking the payment for journalistic. so it's like cnn paying for someone. exactly. i mean, so he did honest journalistic work when he was starting his career according to even the washington post, had nothing to do with the gray zone at the time. and yet the post,

the way they frame it, is that the iranian government is actually paying the gray zone. and so since this articles come out, i've had to, for example, address this with like college buddies who say. so the washington post says that iran controls the grey zone. what's up with that is really media i $24.00 and it's really the government linked media's out media outlets reported that iran and russia are funding the great zone in a bold print headline. a complete lie that's not even backed up by this washington post article. so the point of the article is to create a kind of steel darcy, a situation where they slapped together enough innuendo. outright lies and smears to convince people in the 3 letter agencies that maybe they need to get a file as a warrant on us. maybe we need to be investigated. maybe f b i. agents need to show up at my door. but certainly i need to be harassed because as this article explicitly acknowledges, i personally and the grey zone have published reports

about israel targeting its own citizens on october 7th. something that was deeply damaging to is really propaganda about that day. because as we all know, they're trying to concept crate and consolidate october 7th as a kind of new holocaust and strip it of any context or any history. and according to the washington post, what i've done is spread misinformation when in fact this united nations investigator report last week corroborated the fact that is really general's like general brock here on ordered and is really tacked to fire into a home of his barely civilians. because they were being held captive. this is what's called the hannibal directive. something i've been writing about since 2014, when i 1st witnessed it in the aftermath of the black friday attack in rafa where the israeli military deliberately killed one of its soldiers. adar golden because he was held captive. so what we're seeing here is the washington post acting as one

of the greatest propagate areas of misinformation falsely accusing an independent website that takes no money from russia or ron has no relationship to these weren't foreign governments of essentially being a foreign intelligence weapons and trying to get its editor jailed. if not all of us investigated, journalists trying to get big journalists trying to get actual independent journalists imprisoned. and all because we upset is real. how many given your reason, why they're doing it? well you, you printed a lot of stuff about that. what your time is. i think you force the sounds with your families, new york times after withdrawal, fake rape allegation, sex crime, orient, was propaganda brought around the popular october the 7th, but just on the washington post then, i mean r t is connected to the russian television state. uh, company press tv. similarly with the rainy until it was giving you what you just

said about that is on and what you said about jeff bezos, do you think the washington post, you'd say democracy, guys and douglas? and it is literally as a cut out if i'm is on and the money that helps funded comes from the links to the c. i is amazon servers. that's how pays the wages of the washing about stuff. in this article, the washington post sites, the atlantic councils digit or digital forensic research lab, a central arm of the censorship, industrial complex to falsely claim that wyatt read has deep ties to iranian media . deep ties because he allegedly did some freelance work for them 4 years ago when the funds the atlanta council. well, the washington post doesn't tell you that the united states government funds that the state department. it takes money from the arms industry, the, the big 5 manufacturers that are making a literal killing and ukraine, as well as off the genocide in gaza. it's funded by the united arab emirates,

an adversary of iran. and so i wouldn't say that i have this right now, they made a deal. they made a deal with a run. it's all broken down as regard syria to actually come to think of it on the side of the washington post. they did give a what read a chance to they obviously go to journalism school to do this. i understand they told him to, to call his lawyer. the initial email that y read received from joseph mann is demonstrably mendacious. washington post reporter asked to speak to his lawyer about why it's a legend, sanctions violations. when was the last time you heard about a journalist asked, asking to speak to another journalist lawyer. he then amended that email and removed that request, which was highly unusual for a journalist, but this is what you could call a journal cop or a journal snitch, who's relying entirely entirely on sources that are connected to the us government

. including a known f b, i informant deal rout. houser who supposedly obtain these hack documents which were themselves hacked by the m e k. a coltish or anti, or ron regime change organization sponsored by is rarely and saudi intelligence. and which told people something that wyatt had already been public about, which is that he, it had been a producer for prestige that he put that in his twitter by him. he can no longer respond to by saturday. of course, after the deal that was broken in china, but usually funded by historically they have been west and it's almost as big as a minute when i was living in tyra and they were bombing the terrace back by european countries. i mean, i want to go into the latest a doubling down on the gray zone, about their accusations, against israel, and all the proxy media about the october 7th. but i mean,

we know what they did to julie and assange when they're doing him. uh, this is now profit because they going to go for you because your exposing them not actually about the, the lives being told the to keep the american people poor the working classes of america. but for israel, more than anything. yeah. for, for a lot more in apartheid state, i mean, the 1st attack on us, which was written by reported in lies a dry skin. who, while she was a college reporter at columbia, referred to palestinians as desert veterans with no national identity to justify zion as colonization of palestine. something i asked her about when i called her in and spoke to her live on one of our grades on live streams. her main source of research on us that the grades on accusing us of spreading misinformation about october 7th was something called the national contagion research institute. okay, this is housed at the miller's center at rutgers university. the miller center is

heavily funded by the office of the director of national intelligence. it is a recruitment farm for the c i a. if you look at the n c r i national contagion research institute staff, it's all former spooks. and there is someone who has advised them named sema voc, and in gill, who was the key is really intelligence agents working to neutralize the boycott. the investment in sanctions movement inside the united states, someone whose job was to metal in us politics attack college students as terrorist and prevent americans from exercising their constitutional rights to boycott. apartheid israel. she was advising this group that was the main source of research for the washington post against us, which obviously inspired the attack on us. the director of n c r. i drove finkelstein was the a former research director for the anti defamation league. so putting the pieces

together here you see the washington post is nothing more than a laundromat for the 3 letter agencies and israel's most sod, mexico, to all the copy of a copy of that will from the founder and editor in chief of the grades on after this break the welcome back to going underground. i'm still here with the founder and editor in chief of the graves and mex blumenthal, co director of caitlin garza,

the max you were talking about one about the b links between intelligence agencies and the attack on the greys only attempt. so i'll give you the rest to you, your stuff and shut you down. what have you made about the grudging acceptance of revelations that you were 1st to make when you came to the studio? actually about the lies being told about sexual violence used to stomach me on october. the 7th. as part of what you were saying was an oriental is racist. attempt to demonize arabs as part of the app as bar a campaign to justify genocide. why don't know if we talked about the a moss rep mass rape hoax when i was in studio with you that hadn't really been deployed yet by israel. it was, i mean we just had it a bit because i, i'm not sure whether it was before then, but there is really justice minister walked out of a grazer. i was out of going underground interview on camera when i talked to him

about the some of the revelations you made about the organizations, like zachary, involved with creating this propaganda. the time us use rape is a systemic weapon on october. the 7th. right. well, what, what was what had fallen apart or what was falling apart? by the time we met, where the is really claims of be headed, babies. on october 7th, the baby baked in an oven, the speed is cut from the pregnant woman. these sorts of grisly snuff film like allegations had fallen apart. and so is real decided to move on. israel's international propaganda machine moved on to and new and even more extreme allegation. and i was able to, through are reporting a degree zone. explain why. one of the top pollsters in america who has done lots

of work for is real and is real lobby. frank lines conducted a series of, of polls and focus groups and found that the most powerful allegation against tomas, the cause people in both republican and in the republican and democratic party to support israel's assault on gaza was the accusation of rate. so israel made the accusation then decided to work backwards to find the facts, to support it. and this was something at the grace zone that we began to instantaneously dismantle. i think we were one of the 1st outlets with any platform in the west and the english language to start ripping this to shreds. we did so once the new york times released what was to be the crown jewel in this propaganda construct the screams without words article by jeffery, get them in and not schwartz and noted food blogger adams, seller this, the, the debunking of that article which we conducted over several weeks and which has

also been dismantled by electronic intifada. mando weiss, the anonymous twitter account z squirrel, has led to the firing of a not schwartz with jeffrey, get them ins is rarely fixer, the times of london. not exactly and depended river mode on the side. finally, a rupert murdoch site, a favorite of the m i. 6, has published a full page take down of these rarely lie of mass rape on october 7th. that relied obviously on a lot of my research and the research of other independent a journalist without citing us. but it was fine. the united nations report by for miller patton, which she stated was not an actual independent investigation, was unable to find any survivor of sexual assault on october 7th and was blocked from visiting anyone at rape crisis centers of physicians for human rights is real,

has retracted its report alleging mass sexual violence on october 7th and a new united nations human rights council reports after the united nations report on sexual violence on october 7th found no evidence. the united nations human rights council report has accused israel of systematic gender based violence and sexual torture in its prisons where the new york times in a paragraph buried deep in a report about israel's stay to him on concentration camp in the negative desert found that palestinians who had been kidnapped in gaza, palestinian men and taken to this camp are being satisfied with the tons, systematically by female guards. there is even testimony by palestinian former prisoners of dogs being used by his rarely tortures to sexually assault palestinian

man. and of course the orthopedic surgeon at that i'll ship a hospital near bosh a very prominent doctor and gaza was tortured to death at that facility as we now know. so it's very clear we have clear documentation of sexual violence being, webinar used against palestinians. a, b is rarely allegations have been debunked, and yet what is the white house doing? what is the us administration doing? they're continuing to push this lie. vice president comma la harris. this week is hosting a major event at the white house to screen cheryl sandburg propaganda. tell us about the experience, both the toilets, maybe to win an oscar like the mariel one that is it financed by? yeah, it's links to facebook. meta, well, 1st of all, meta is you know, a lot heavily invested in is real. it's really sensors work closely with many of

the sensor pro palestine opinions, mark zachary berg and meta issue to statements supporting is real on october 7th. along with, you know, private spies like palin tier, which we're working for contracts for targeting and gaza. they're heavily involved, cheryl sandburg was the long time c o o chief operate officer of operations at facebook. and she herself, personally, is a liberal scientist who played a key part in rolling out these bogus rape allegations with hillary clinton at the is rarely mission, not the u. s. mission. but the, as rarely mentioned at the united nations. and she, you know, is the pioneer of lien in feminism that you can work 16 hours a day and still, you know, be a mom, you know, so she's, she's like, she's clearly a prominence and wanted figure for is real to exploit here. she conducted a series of interviews with women and is real making allegations without any

forensic evidence, any evidence at all. and relied heavily in this film on something which is a violation of the geneva conventions, which is concessions by palestinian detainees which were clearly extracted through torture. and there's one hideous concession which has been pushed out by the murdock, pressing the us, the new york post, especially in which a father and a son can fast to raping a couple to death in keyboards near us. now why would have father and son confessed to such a thing unless they had been ruthlessly terrorized and tortured and at the grace own right now at this date, i may have come out by the time of airing. we're working on an investigation with this rarely researchers that demonstrates that it's simply impossible that any couple could have been raped and killed at this keyboards. because we have the list

of people who were killed there. and no such a couple of matches what was described in this confession. so there's clearly a false confession and these false confessions obtained through torture. populate cheryl sand birds. propaganda hooks, documentary screens before silence, which is public on youtube. it's free on youtube. but if we even mention these kind of allegations on youtube, our video gets suppressed and demonetized by the sensor. so what's going on here? going on the ground can obviously not independently very verified that but then what about the fact that when the allegations of rape a continue to be made. so they talk about videos that was seen by some journalists. we've had people on this show that say, i think i would do it should be it's on this. you said, i've seen the video, are they all lying?

all these people who talk about the secret video that the israelis were showing to jones it is. it's so ironic that allan dos you, it's someone who was like a vip, he guessed on epstein island, who had as his defense, that he kept his underwear on while receiving a massage from one of apps. dean's yeah, but he does. fan is any top flight billy lawyer or crescent in your country. uh, he can probably do something i've seen connection. he doesn't want me to defend julian his lunch, but this video there's so many people i would just, i guess i find it ironic that that there are sure which is at the center of accusing a mosse of sexual violence. given his, his own checkered history and the allegations made against him by virginia ju fray . and it always just seems like there's so much there while he did not utilize all of that. but regardless of the fact that you and this, we came out with the, you know, the human rights council report came out with the in the in fan. is it kind of

exoneration of the raisins was a bit too late, somewhat so might say, what about the video that was screen was in the white house premises for the student government office. yeah, i see you're trying to move away from from that uh, from dish with so, but no, i would guess if it's, if anybody with a video of a headed babe, 1st of all there, there's this, there are 2 separate things happening here. there's a 43 minute video snuff film that has been shown since late october to selected audiences including intellectual power houses like dr. phil and chris cuomo, who all come out and say that they were shocked at the holocaust level of violence in october 7th. and to be sure, atrocities were committed against civilians on october 7th. but that 43 minute video has never been made available to the public. i've seen many of the photos and videos that is real shows and some of it actually contains footage of dead bodies

and vit. and photos of dead bodies of palestinians were killed by as rarely a pass she attack helicopters. then there's this other video of how much fighters supposedly raping, is really women on october 7th. now let's think about this for a 2nd. israel isn't an existential or not just militarily, but politically. and it's propaganda. war is paramount. why would it hold on to the most devastating video that would demonstrate to the world that it needs to do anything possible to prevent this from ever happening again? why would it hold on to that and only allow select people to see it? why wouldn't it send it right to cnn and the new york times and the entire us media, which is slowly turning critical of israel's military operation? the answer is it doesn't exist. we saw angelina barrow bach. the german foreign minister claimed to have seen such a video. she can not produce any evidence that this video is real. debbie wasserman

schultz, most recently on cnn. the top democratic member of congress claimed to have seen this video, but can't describe what's in it. and comma la harris is supposedly overseeing this event where might be seen at the white house to show us the video. why can't we see the video? just find that because it doesn't exist. there's no such video. there never has been, and it's all been debunked already. i'm just finally on casa as role in this genocide . i'll just say are doing valuable reporting from the gaza strip. amazing report. he's on the best i've seen in my lifetime, but single chain use the reporting lies against syria, against russia, against venezuela. what's happening when people are watching l g 0? well then the address here is also been supportive of regime change in the opposition and venezuela. and i think it's model exposes not just some of the

hypocrisy of caught our visa view, the palestinians, but of western liberalism because it tends to cater to western liberals. and what you have with so many western liberals as well as with cut our, which host to us air base is sympathy for the palestinians on a human rights basis that their dis, dispossessed abuse people who are getting slaughtered at an industrial rate. not support for the wider access of resistance and so, and then general support for the whole western system of imperialism that sees a hi tens of billions of dollars, forked over to ukraine, or forked over covertly or semi covertly to jihad his death squads in syria. one of possibly the last independent arab state in order to or one of the last independent arab states in order to preserve the same system that protects is real. and it's this hypocrisy that needs to be shattered for palestine liberation to ever be

achieved. people need to see palestine as part of a wider picture and use it as a prism for understanding us empire, i think by own, in my own work on palestine. that's how i was able to begin to unpack the contradictions the wider contradictions of us empire maximum and all. thank you. thanks a lot action and that's it for the sure. well continued condolences to those very value k u. s. u, i'm genocide on monday. i'll be joined by form and they do animal is supposed to do ukraine kind of jack bo is just publish revelations about the october 7th attack when he's rel, until then keep in touch, why would that social media if it's on the sense of new a country natural channel going, undergoing tv on mobile. com to watch and you know, that sense of going on. be glad to monday, the

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