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911 when you had as an emergency, a manual check display depo shot down here. please send somebody right away. the manual charge and there's people shot the shot to pass on demanding the check. please come right away. did you see him at all? yes, he's a young 21. you. why do street and when the advisor of what happened at the mother of manuel and the church in charleston, south carolina, in the summer of 2015, was almost to her rhetoric to comprehend. the white gunmen stormed into a bible study. 9 church members died right before god another. these people were

church church church. what do we know about who this man is and what is what division may have been? you rape all women and you taken over the country, you have to go shortly after dylan rufus capture investigators found a racist manifesto. he posted online, along with dozens of images, posing that confederate heritage sites, and with confederate flags. now the focus of the nations outrage shifted from the killer themselves to the symbol that seem to contain within its borders all the racial hatred and roofs hearts. the backlash was swift. terrific, shooting has recognized the highly sensitive debate over the confederate flag. this flag is become a symbol of murder, of racism and hatred. and it is clearly a symbol of this chiller. the conversation we're having about the confederate flag

has been about moral empathy, seeing the flag through others eyes. you know, it's a moment for society to really do a check of our values. corporate giants like ebay target and wal mart, stop selling items bearing the confederate flag, telling me right now literally just now in the last couple of minutes. in less, less 2 minutes. amazon just pulled the flag as well. even nascar, an icon of traditional southern culture, turned against the flag with an appeal to patriotism. a special offer for race fans as we can. you can train in your confederate flag for an american. one. anti flag momentum reached a climax when president obama delivered the eulogy from other a manual pastor clement of painting. removing the flag from the space capital would not be an act of political correctness. it would not be an insult to the malware. the confederates on the same, we may not acknowledge the cause for which they fall

slavery 2 weeks later, the flag came down in south carolina. for i get getting a lot of attention as all because of this, the rebel banner did make you care about me. you care about the place and as far as the sort of small 16, do you think the confederate flag is offensive? as you can see, it's about even with somebody. just tell me why this, since they're here. our government is functioning the chosen symbol of a terrorist organization. on our state far. i love the 7 or i love the southern bell. i think we have the most beautiful flags we need to fight for.

my problem is the safe legs to rip the everyone in not a time in east and what they're trying to do is they're trying to tell us as mississippians that we should change if you don't like it. the i was born and raised in the north. my irish great great grandfather, michael o'connor, was an officer in the union army. but i married in mississippi and,

and of course we live here now. the main street in the neighboring town is not called main street. it's jeff davis avenue, named after jefferson davis, a mississippi plantation owner, and us senator, who advocated for the expansion of slavery into the new territory. he was elected president of the confederacy. there's another jeff davis avenue, a short drive away. and jefferson davis, his home and presidential library is just up the highway like many mississippi counties, our court house as a monument to confederate soldiers. and some of our neighbors splitting the states flag in their yards. something that never seen any place else. so yes, in mississippi remnants of the confederacy are everywhere. but even at the civil war relics, joe and brandon, mississippi change seems inevitable to tell me what sort of interactions are you

having with folks who are interested in buying mississippi state. people are buying mississippi state flags more than usual. evidently, there must be a shortage on arrives and somewhere in it, a shame. my name is tim cupid. i'm a member of the sons of confederate veterans. when i started doing my family research, i found that my family photo on both sides union and confederate, but if some people in left, some people lane, right? well, i lane's file. we want people to remember our past, what our ancestors went through. and this fries that we made, the, i appreciate you being here and i hope that when you're doing your documentary that

you, um, present both sides positive matter and, and let people make them on that for themselves. i understood that considered a heritage supporters like tim might be suspicious of my intentions. i am a yankee after all, i assured him and everyone else i spoke to on the film that i wasn't going to choose aside mr. date. and i wasn't or to judge anyone. i simply wanted to understand why mississippians were so divided over state flag whose purpose should be to unite us. mm. the

signs of considered veterans purposes not to defend confederate govern our purposes, to defend the good name of the confederates. seldom. and that's the out that you take, which i take very seriously because these monuments that you see everywhere are not can, but they're not monuments to the federal government. they're monuments to the, to the soldiers, to the veterans. most of it came back terribly. want the ship side that those masters of some sort and that's not true. and so i can't just sit there while that story gets told this. i know it's not true. of course, for me, i'm fascinated with mississippi history and particularly because the census in 1840

i think is the 1st one. so everybody here was 20 years old. everybody to know people anywhere. and they were coming to absolutely raleigh and. and then within 20 years of that, you're fighting for your existence as a nation. the, you know, that's to the, the, that's how we got here was these people were determined to lay of the, or the same dna should not do not. not only which one anus any part in for any it say not done. look, this state flag issue never would have been brought back up if it wasn't for what

happened on june. the 17 in charleston, south carolina. they want you to believe that that flag grew hands and legs came down. the pole walked in that church and feel those people. it was a human being that did that not apply to the open your mouth. open your mouth the we keep them your mouth open, it does something with a concussion. every flag has its history. it has its broad and dark parts. we won't talk about dark parts, you know, we can mention how slavery was brought in under the us black. there's videos of this one organization marching down. i believe it's pennsylvania avenue in

washington, dc. and they're only flying us flag. so why not be offended because of that's like, you know, if we're going to be offended by everything, every negative part of our history, we have to get rid of everything. the dates you say you are fighting for your heritage. where your heritage was based on money and power in the only way you can get money and power here in this style is if you kill a disenfranchised people in slaves, plane is always knew what the confederate emblem made to us as african americans. but what can you tell me what it always meant?

team patriot, lynchings, beatings, poverty. why supremacy is just the disgusting ambulance? i feel that way because i lived there was a time when i started to was abused to obtain power. steve divided the continental langford amongst themselves. it was divided as a hunting ground. if we do not do not the corner knives as we come out again, we know that they are those who want the mazda content in this designate. but the mazda clinton and can never be stopped, because the mazda continent must be great. she will only be great on the shore, does all of us sons and daughters on by the set. all right,

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the the, the mississippi, mississippi. the lot of phones of consider with veterans and members of the k k k. i say that they are christians. i just it is my hope in my desired that god would push them to put tre. christine,

how do you change the heart of a man? no may not change. so it can, it does change the habits of man. when you begin to change the habits of men for this purpose, the hops will be changed. my mother, she file for welfare rice for women. they house sit down with hoses. she still has the bite marks on her leg from the dog. and she also went to jail and i was like to know this, my mamma. why, why? i mean, she's the sweetest person. oh no one was somebody to do that to her. it was a power when the news came on about the shooting. mama say that they don't make no sense. yep. i stood up and went to jail and gab,

being for human rights and civil rights and welfare rights. y'all be able to do something. and when she said, go better do something we do something i'm the director of a flat file mississippians coalition. i've just been going around trying to raise awareness about the importance of removing the confederate emblems from asked a flag is going to be hard, but it's not in the past week and you just have to keep pushing. it keeps drive and i just thank god for the grace and mercy because you need a whole lot of a lot of people march from g r lynch street to the state capital calling for change and the state slides, we just need a flag that were unified everyone,

the not long after i met sharon's, she stepped away from her leadership role with the flag for all mississippians initiative. due to health reasons. it would be some time before i could talk to sharon on camera again. she found it ally and lia campbell, an anti flag activist on the mississippi gulf coast for me as a white woman. and if they can comment upon me as well as on white, mississippi. and i'm a person of privilege to use my privilege to do what i can to dismantle a system of white supremacy and symbols of white supremacy that my ancestors created. the i grew up in the south. so i didn't have a sense of the racism that still exist here. and um,

it would be an i me or anyone else to deny that it says stanley shooting and charleston happened. and i distinctly remember saying the best photo doing raised closing with the confederate large man, reading his blog post, and then watch governor nikki haley, have the courage to take that confederate envelope down from south carolina state house ground. it really made me angry that our governor and our legislators could not just by the same courage. um so i knew i had to get involved were fighting with the deal when they everywhere like her. that why is like,

what we are better than that is better than the this wasn't the 1st time mississippians have wrestled over their flag in 1993, the young w. c. p. c, with the state to change the flag for familiar reasons. that lawsuit level discovery that due to a legislative error in 19 o, 6, mississippi did not have an official state flag in 2001 governor. ronnie must

grow decided to settle the issue with the statewide referendum, asking voters to choose between 2 flags. the current flag at the time which had been adopted and $1894.00 and a new design. now the mississippi slag is wavering at this time, voters will decide if the confederates symbol will fall. the flag of 18941 by nearly 2 to one margin, settling the issue for the time being the flag of 18. 94 was adopted just 4 years after mississippi and continued to constitutional convention to write a new state constitution. the civil war had ended 30 years earlier, and although black mississippians made up nearly 60 percent of the states population, only one of the convention delegates was black. reconstruction was over, and white mississippians had regained political controls and the majority black population through violence and intimidation. and

a newly formed ku klux klan. the president of the convention made it clear that their goal was to circumvent the 15th amendment, which prohibited the government from denied a citizen the right to vote based on race. let's tell the truth of it 1st. the bottom of the university said we came here to exclude the other convention. delegates confirmed this notion the mississippi's constitution of 18. 90 included a poll tax and a literacy test that effectively prevented generations of black citizens from voting until the passage of the voting rights act. some 75 years later, it was in this political climate that the flag of 1894 was born.

the back of this will flag trade, the final, the flags all over the street. you know, as i got the horizontal limbs hanging out. so i was like, well, i'll put some flag with. so i'm a true blooded, southern mississippi, mississippi, southern main. right. and, and, and i accept it, and i are relishing it because that's who i am. that's who, who i, where are my family is coming from. my family has lived in the state of mississippi before it even became a state of the i am a direct descendant of james jefferson. johnson is my great, great great grandfather. he fought in the 41st mississippi infantry, and this is my son's a confederate veteran certificate. what really got me this part of a route joining some kind of a confederate organization is because of what's going on in the country and

discrimination against black people, discrimination against the jews within scrutinizing or against us. i like, well i, what about who is currently engaged in against others? they accuse us of all being races, you know? and it's a sign of a 1000000 is what the play me. so a lot of people and that's why i like k k, k and other groups used to play the part that me off the worst is ours. my ancestors would have put a stop to it before you know, a got to the point that is today, where anytime i say that by that automatically seems take a type of person, the what is referred to as a confederate flag. graphically, it is on it however, you can separate it from all that it is stood for and a negative sense. i'd love for us to have a symbol about which people just had no evidence whatsoever. we're at

a moment where we can do this right and well and respectfully for all involved. i don't like name collins. i don't like rallies where people are yelling back and forth all along the way from the way i present things. the way i design a flag. i want everybody to have a stitch, a thread, and that new design. and i hope to be that middle ground, that landing point for folks who, you know, as time has passed and they come along, i think. and all right, now we need something to begin with a whole lot of sketching, a lot of know, taking a lot of research aside really as a living symbol and document and piece of art. but there are 19 stars along the outer edge. we were the 20th state to join the union, the color red symbolizes passion and blood. i chose the color white as a field because it, it represents the illumination, spirituality promise. and i thought that was an appropriate way to bring together

all of these elements and all of these aspects of our history and our story, of course, my grandfather was a us senate and he was one of the co authors and signers of the southern manifesto which was a reaction against the brown vs board of education, integrated schools. and he was involved in um, we have the impression of african americans in our state by way of policy. but i still love my grandfather. his personal motto was look ahead and he did, he eventually changed himself to on that issue. lauren's flag design known as this dennis flag quickly became popular and caught the attention of state representative kathy sikes, who was the 1st legislator to advocate for the status flag as a viable alternative to the flag of 18. 94.

the after the non cac power in italy, states foreign policy became extremely aggressive. benito mussolini needed glorious victories. he decided to achieve his ambitions in africa. despite the fact that formally libya had been coming to tell you in colony back in 1912, the vast territories of this country were not actually controlled by rome. the nazis decided to put an end to this. but as soon as the religious order of the senate side stood in their way, the arabs did not want to submit to foreign power and put up fierce resistance. dividers against colonialism were led by the seats of this n, a side order. omar l move star, who was nicknamed the lion of the desert for his incredible courage. despite the violent, bombardments and boys in gas usage, mass deportations, and the imprisonment of the local population in concentration camps. the invaders

could not go with the error page as for a decade. in 1931, omar l most star was captured and sentenced. hanging at the trial, the hero of the libyan people behaved very bravely and rejected. pardon, pursuing a policy of genocide, italy was only able to temporarily suppress libya, 18th of the entire population, more than 100000 de boats fell victim to terror. however, just a few years later, the entail you enroll, collapsed. in 1951, libya became one of the 1st countries in africa to gain independence. the it's, it's almost like almost a cliche in the west. but this whole idea of with my, to the last refrain in some truth behind it. i mean, think about it for the american, a $60000000000.00 for the reason. a package, not a lot of money. a lot of money stays within the united states in terms of the

defense contracts and the like, pulled out money that, you know, they buy time, they prolong the war to keep russia busy. you know, this is the, ultimately, this is what the west is doing. is all about you know, trying to preserve west to take him and the i'm a representative of sites at a rally in washington, d. c. t introduced his dentist while i do. a gallery of mississippians who had travelled there to demand a new state flag by laurence as i love this. and the thing is, you know, we had a discussion about that i saw this flag and fell in love with this. and i really liked it when i found out that the design of the lord is dennis lauren is the grand