the i'm action or times the welcome back to going under going broke of single around the world from the you a julian assange is free. you can watch our interviews with them, exposing google. hillary clinton's attempt to support us democracy and blame russia that illuminate a war crimes in iraq and all around the world. it was with unique that expose jake sullivan, biden's, now national security advisor ryan speaking, how kind that was on the same side as the usa. it was leaking, leaks that exposed the present head of the c. i a explaining the u. s. propagation of russia that would lead to war in europe. well is of course, before his torture by britain and the u. s. u k. plans to assassinate him. some who have called for his release on going underground never got to see him go free fashion, designer, vivian westwood. mental gavin mccarthy and pentagon whistle blow down those bugs and the grades on pills. you all of whom passed away, while a silence was tortured with me here and do by. as julian's brother gabriel shipped in his documentary, it's like a shot at the struggle to free julie and assange. gabriel. thank so much for coming on the show. and as video to going underground, i got to ask you, 1st of all,

where, where you and you heard the news that the jo biden's justice department had been defeated by a man who had been tortured in london. who we know was the target of assassination attempts by britain and the united states under the connivance of city of stomach, the new k authorities. well, i went to see julian probably around around a month ago. and he did mention to me at that time that there was probably going to be a resolution in down the track, possibly 3 weeks, full weeks time, which i took with a grain of salt at the time of the photo. okay. yeah, let's see what happens. and then about a week, a week before he was put on that jet, i was getting calls from him very excited calls from julian going through all the little bits of logistics that had been set up every day. there was some

progress legit getting locked in. he's movement from inside the prison at the very early hours in the morning, so he could be undetected, taken to stance to the airport and the little bits and pieces that were all falling into place. so it was very, very hard to keep that a secret and it was, you know, essentially a political miracle that this was able to be pulled off. and i think i as a credit, due to people like you who it's been reporting on this, fill out the many, many years last stood in for the news and the growth roots efforts by normal people around the world. it sort of restores your faith in humanity to really say normal people giving up the time, giving up the money, the connections, the if it to save, join us on. i know so inspiring all those thousands of people,

tens of thousands to rain and trying outside those court rooms. when you didn't think it was a sign of julian's mental mental problems that he was so hopeful that this was another because he had a really bad medical problems in britain's suplex prison. as far as i understand that roger waters is being on the show. i mean, he was shocked and we could see him visibly shocked on pilcher was shot so many times after seeing your brother. yeah, it was hot breaking going and seeing him inside the inside the prison option. a cell neighbor committed suicide while he was there. yes, one of his friends, a brazilian man committed suicide, but there's regularly depths inside the prison. he, the inmates is keeping company with the sort of the worst of the was murder is all thoughts of those sorts of prisoners. and those of the people he keeps company

with. he was an a 2 by 3, made a cell, but in 2019 with news. no. so the you in special repertoire and torture went to see him and took those 2 independent doctors. they found he'd suffering the effects of psychological torture. and that was in 2019 and his situation didn't change. he had the never ending extradition to a country that had pulled it to kill him hanging over his head the prison conditions bearing down on his body and his mind. but you know that's all over now action. and now he has time to be with his family. he's out in his dreading bush, enjoying the sunshine and joining the bird songs, putting his feet in the sand. uh so i think happier times ahead and i'll go and see him this week. actually i'm going to go and see him and very excited says, but it was his birthday. really for give brittany. do you think?

i mean, a, i believe i forget the guardian newspaper where i started my career on it still printed so many equivocal pieces over the years, double crossed and lied about passwords. or i think because we have noticed that the guardian, who's been on the street with the form of you in repertory georgia, now at the red cross said it was these newspapers and media, there are pos, are the psychological torture and that they were. so that's a putting upon your brother, your look even now, even now you can see a legacy made here and a lot of these so called journalist sort of wanting to go out and signal to the friends and intelligence community. you know that they're still faithful home to them. they are repeating the old me is the notes means that on even that the usa, the all is well good thing here. oh, that's about he killed people really relations. and we certainly reality exactly what i mean, are you going assume every single one of them and get the car and,

and the new york times salzburg a family 0 times today. to worry about. james clapper the form and national security office of national intelligence. the said this show was somehow a threat to the united states. yeah. game is saying things like, you know, he gave things on redacted. this was a problem, little digs it. yeah. so it's still going on now and, but i think the person that putting julian's free a little, the hard work is paid off the millions around the world, the world leaders who have been advocating for julian. it's all paid off the sorts of attacks. and it's me is, you know, everybody can say now that when you say that the chief prosecution of rubber causing, there was no one was killed. now because of these, this genuine journalism, the julian is on state, but matthew miller, united and he blinked and state the palm and repeated repeated the lie to the press . who i don't know when he saw that visible press conference on the day,

your brother was released for 2 days made headlines here. what is the do by newspaper golf news? that's the biggest story in the world. even bigger than gaza. yeah. and the girl as a genocide, hassan and your brother to be freed, a free man after 14 years. that is the biggest story. but matthew miller says, what did you think of that press conference? you know, i've seen matthew miller, he well, he worked in the obama justice department and he's actually done interviews. and before he went to the state department saying, there's a reason why we didn't pursue this case. that it posed a threat to the 1st amendment. and that's why the amount of justice department didn't pursue. and matthew met and he was on record about saying that. and so it's a very interesting to watch him change his june now and now he's inside the state department, but i think you really have to look at what the judge who accepted julian's play deal said. they said the us government cannot find a victim in related, in relation to the so called crime of journalism that julian committed

a so i think that's a, that's what's on the record and that, that's what the judge said during that hearing. so you just have to look back to those sort of factual elements that were accepted by us judge and hold them up to a slide to what matthew meal is saying. and it's just his arguments fall apart, right? it just doesn't make sense and actually exposes, uh then those sorts of people for what they really are in my opinion. yeah. and the reductions. i think at one point, julian as me, of the team there to be redact. i feel they went too far. sometimes in the reductions, why are they making out to the guardian in particular, which is the one you might have to tell a view is remind them that it was them that linked deposit which own redacted we can expect. that's right. lou cutting and david lee who rushed out a book about the wiki leaks leaks, or the village and all that. they rushed out this book and one of the chapter

headings was a password to the encrypted file of the diplomatic cable set up. and that was the password the julian had given them. he even had, there was an element of that possibly called a salt. and julian's explained to them this element, you can never write down. you can never share. because that sort of gives the possible even most strings having that sold element. and these journalists, you know, in the recklessness published the whole password to this encrypted file. and so from that, from that chapter, hitting a different tag was able to do research and find out that that was possible to the encrypted file. and then crypt on the website run by john young. a u. s. website grouped and got old was the 1st to publish the i'm rejected a cable set. so julian and wiki legs when even the 1st to publish,

this is unproductive cable set. and i think that part of the education process that we've been doing in this campaign is telling that story, that the, the, the people actually responsible for this on rejected lake. uh the uh, the guardian june was david lee and lou cutting interesting, the julian developed some tools that allowed the reduction of these boss strows of information such as a program that would look for that, use the dictionary to search these. these will files and will logs for problem nouns and would take out those 9. so he was at the forefront of this process of reduction. and at the time, journalists who are working with in said the people inside the traditional news rooms were actually more reckless than julian was when it came to rejecting these

names. and as for more bad guys, and the story is it? well, we knew that need don't shape a guy who double called, you know, on the early days he destroyed perhaps valuable cables. it would have given us an insight into the so called war on terra in afghanistan and iraq. will they also have to be destroyed or it was nothing really destroyed as part of the pre deal. i know how to get on to discovery, which was an element of play deal as well, but or what was this that had to be destroyed? you need to so i just tried an affidavit that kristin robinson has been on this row many times over the is destroyed what there was anything unpublished related to the chelsea, many lakes miss. that's my understanding from what very public julia. it doesn't matter if somebody else has it already. well, you know, it was a dead man switch file. well, i guess so, but you know, it was an instruction from the courts to julian in which he likes to destroy any,

any of those falls that hadn't, hadn't been published published already. i mean, interestingly, when julian lift this after he was given permission to leave sweden after answering questions in relation to into this a 6 or somebody is political asylum. yes. yeah. and so i am i and i at that time he's bags went missing when he took that flight from sweden to the united kingdom. and that those, those bags actually had even more of the chelsea, many a lake that never sold a lot of di, including some of the very well known messic has in, in afghanistan. so the video, the so those are things that you know, will never, will never say from this lake, and that will never know about. and so the historical impact of wiki likes is, speaks for itself really in,

in what it was able to achieve over the years. and what these lakes actually meant to normal people. the people who are new to who are just trying to make their lives better. who are trying to make correct decisions about who to vote for how to make a simple educated decisions about who they want the latest to be for the war and a rock, for instance, that famous cable that well, i will, i'll just stop if you have a real war that in part 2, more from the brother wiggs found the julie this just this break the

as western leaders recklessly talked of escalating the conflict in ukraine. european voters has sent the exact office that message pro war and meets are clearly out of step with voters, and they have been punished for the welcome back to going under guard. i'm still here with the brother of wiggs. one of the julia is on gabriel shifting. gabriel, you were interrupted by me in part one when you were talking about the importance to normal everyday people. if people don't know who julia massage is just knowing vaguely and legal proceedings that have been talked about for 14 years, it was, it was, as you say, the was in iraq and afghanistan. i was talking about this stuff that was destroyed . there was no public interest defense. i knew when a legal scholars, when the biden's justice department, in the plea deal told them you have to destroy some information that hadn't previously unpublished. there was no defense on the sides of the legal team to go.

but what if some of it is in the public interest? no, no, no, no, julian, actually one thing the julian did say, during this hearing is that the he didn't realize that the espionage act trumps the 1st amendment. and i think that's clearly, that was a very clear and direct message to everybody out there. what this what this play deal and what this persecution actually means is that, did you go? because in this colonial magistrate, us colonial magistrate the islands with the us of flu, that'd be 29th to murder people in the rush. we mega psyche and all that way. it's so close and julia. so i'm still said watch out judge. there's a conflict between yo constitution in the us village. well, did you go? no, i mean this is, this is you, i'm going to get a bad us onto you. i, i, you know,

i think he would have had to size. i'm thinking and he's very deliberate and very thoughtful about things like that that he wants to say and, and frame things around around the things that he thinks are important. so i have a trust julian, i have faith and he's, you know, he's ability to raise and make these determinations. but it was nerve wracking. i was watching live the show many, many people out there were watching the log footage and, and just hoping that it was all going to go through because, you know, i'm not sure how i really trust the united states and the justice system. but they were starting, diplomats there with him, the u. k. hot commissioner, steven smith, the ex prime minister care was run right. the oh yes, sorry. the u. k. i guys you said in your strategy and i believe that's yes. that's right. and the ex prime minister, kevin rod, who is now the ambassador to the united states for

a stranger. they were there with him as a sort of, i guess, a guarantor of his safety and that he would get, they needed someone that important to give us a little bit of a piece of gone through this trial. and it's because your sister in law, the wife of julia design sellers on show the press part of the plea deal means we could now look into discovery into what they were doing. as regards the assassination attempt, no britain in the united states brought into some bones in london car chase is mother your brother, dental allowed, but and then she looked pointedly at the president, australia, the prescott said, you can do that throughout julian's way. this freedom of information rights in the united states, but the rest of the press having, obviously, so i think it's up to them to really dig around and get to the bottom of what's happened in this case. i think you mentioned those plots to kill julian that were

going around sketches and plans within the c. i. plus to keep that julian that made it as high as the white house. and i think there's still a lot to uncover it in that. and in julian's persecution famously kissed um as emails when he was at the cps, that mysteriously disappeared relating to his trips to washington. while julian was in the ecuadorian, m. c. so there is lots of new. i be a prime minister as a scholar at the time of this recording is north, but yes, and this will be a cloud, i think of his prime minister ship if it is. so i think there is still a lot to uncover. and many people who have involved themselves in julian's persecution of the youths who have go do it on their hands. you don't take suitcases. com is a view that all the other documents were destroyed as was the,

as was the procedure, he was headed. the crown prosecution service, which was desperately trying to extradite your brother to sweden for perhaps i think most of us believe extradition to the united states by a different route than the espionage. right? yeah, that's right. he was the head of the cps of the, at that time during that whole process, the longest running preliminary investigation in swedish history. and this was famous emails that were, if a lot less defined emergency with the swedish prosecutors emailing the u. k. prosecutors saying we want to drop this we, we were to come and question him so that we can move on and, and get rid of this in because no charges of any sexual car, no, nothing, no charges have a light and they actually communicated to the c p a, so they wanted to close it and bring it to an end. and the response was, this is more, this is about more than a, an x, normal extradition don't, you know, don't get cold state. and so i think that evidence is out there, and there,

there will be more to come, i believe, as, as time goes by, as things become uncovered. i'm old journalists dig into the record around julian's persecution about the new british prime minister to find him. everything was read on the show, the great italian john, this is already on. so just history law school. put it for aaron, i understand. she's not getting anything gold. 2025 randy credit go with the great american active schools. famously on covering positive b, u. c. global investigation into what was happening as regards trumps funded. one of jumps fund is that we were involved the company that was spying on perhaps you, your district or illegal julius, on his legal council. the medical delta's also mex blumenthal. of course. how safe is he in australia? you know, we, um, i think joan pills you would always uh, sometimes mention golf with them and how he was brought down by the british

government, the former bridge, the australian prime minister, he opposed the vietnam war. us foreign policy was just taken out by the british government, pennsylvania. oh, strangely, it happened sort of threatening politician if they oppose the united states. albanese seems to be steadfast with your brother, julius andre hasn't been killed, let alone deposed your. well, i think the startling government is walter, real todd, right? in this situation. they've given the intelligence community to national security d o j a conviction, but they've also managed to secure julian's freedom. and so i think that satisfied both parties in that sense and implied that man in the middle diplomatic role. you know, you, you spoke about change classes before this year. he's come out saying, well, we've got what we wanted. julian served his time. we've got a conviction, so there's this sort of messaging from the intelligence community that they should be happy with this conviction, this conviction and play deal that is try and government was able to and was able

to broker in terms of julian safety in australia. he's incredibly popular with these threatening people that day when he stepped off that plane onto the topic. i got thousands of messages. people were celebrating, popping bottles of champagne saucers. some people said this is like christmas. that was the feeling, the feeling back back in australia. and that's how popular july slow one person. rupert murdoch's abc scott, no sky. because sky news in australia is owned by the roof of murder organizations or are those to come cost in other countries saying he's a criminal and continuing to repeat this kind of thing. and so that is the, the, those of those, uh, these generals that on psycho generals that are out totally how to touch with the, with the public sentiment. and that's why those sort of statements, they don't really have any echo they. they're just sort of full flat,

particularly when julians walking around free in australia. so i think really the public sentiment and, and julian's popularity straightens, loving under dog 11 and the dog story. and, and he's, he's one of as easy is astray, his son, and he will be protected by the population. and by his support the, i believe the hatred for him a, in the new york times of this week, k. i because they say, but he was against us imperialism. that makes it, that different, presumably alluding to him, king that go without book when he was dragged out by british security forces from political asylum, the ecuadorian embassy. why is it because julie, this orange exposure secrets of the russian states boots instict, of china, of iran. why is it, do you think that we agree? it's countries and i'll present we know things because you know,

change in thing or coming the would like expose. why is it these countries in the end said no, you must be confer. he and the united states has secrets because julia is just waking, looks organization with them. power. it was a, it was truth to buy was exposing the secrets of the powerful. it didn't matter whether it wasn't and the american me why, why was the, i'm, why did the americans hate wiki leaks move? well, he, he, embarrassing, he embarrassed them him past the way that they, the struck the way that they ruled the world. and the way that they use the power in, in countries overseas, these conspiracies between the institutions of stace, the corporate media and the corporations. julian, expose those, and it's threatened the whole system. it's threatened the whole system of see how they exercise power around the world. and they will the front and the very,

very front and that they wouldn't be able to hold onto that power. and so they, the, the solution was to go up to julian. and i think you can look at the timeline from 2017 of when they need a julian of the same in 2019. and so julians of the saying in 2019. and you see all these other factors, all these other areas where they would clamp down on the free internet and things started to change in silicon valley. i've spoken to people in silicon valley and they said, the revolutionary spirit of the 2016, the revolutionary spirit, and the spirit of the free internet was almost turned on its head in silicon valley, off the 2016. and these, all these corporations, all these social media corporations, were turned on their heads and became sort of of the state to sense and to manipulate people. and i think what happened to julian is actually in line with

that real clamp down around 2019 and, and looking forward to 2020. and the last 4 or 5 years that we've, that we've lived for live through and the sort of resurgence of the conservative project. but ironically, and finally, how important is it a president, donald trump? pardon him for the future of journalism journalist all around the world because he still has this felony because he's pleaded guilty to julia sellers to save his own life, pleading guilty to a crime he didn't commit. uh, how important is it for the president to, to the body? so it's important for americans. it's important for a normal americans and the people of sending congress the laws within the congress . right. have really recognize that, that what this has done with this conviction has done, has criminalized gen, was this,

it describes essentially investigative journalism. it's going off to the general source relationship of publishing classified information, possessing classified information. that's old, become a legal now under what's happened to julian massage and is there is a huge amount of concern in the united states. we just were talking of here about ken ross, the head of the, of human rights which has actually come out against, against this plea deal, saying that it is a real threat. and these elements that were used in the, in the initial indictment, these element, they sort of the elements that the to frame julian is a hacker. they were completely left out of, of, of the plea deal of the conviction. and so it's actually julians is, is a journalist according to this, according to this conviction. and that is a legal so what i can do, i have ken wrote the saying that and he's yeah, hunter russell. not really nice lady. that's quite something gabriel shifted.

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