talking about i will end shore a miracle always has the strongest mosley thought fighting forth in the world. weasel. wow. did you catch coming to air, or is it the dnc? she delivered by far one of the most meal? conservative, most? yeah, hawkish, speeches, ever, water. we make of this, i'm rick sanchez. let's do this. the the, we begin today with an arrest that seems to smack of this is the global thing. seems to smack of government interference of free speech as well as a possible assault on privacy. portal dog has been arrested. z is the founder of the social media site and digital platform tele graham. there is you see him the, it's used by more than a 1000000000 people around the world. this is got really big. he was arrested over

the weekend in france. the charge failure to moderate what people say and do on the telegram platform, or at least that's, you know, the original announcement of what they were looking at them for. we're going to get into some specifics and a little bit about what that's being defined down to now. now here's the article i wanted to show you as well. this is in a french newspaper. lamont uh, just just today and, and i think this is interesting. look at the headline, look at reads, telegram affair poses a test for the european union. and then the subhead says it's rekindling the debate on how to adjust the digital space to align with european regulations. now. okay, that's fair. that's actually a fair headline and a fair comment. governments do have the right to try and come up with well, absolutely, guidelines to make sure that social media and digital platforms are used for harm.

for example, i get it. that's fair. if i plan to the only country to criticize social media sites for sometimes irresponsible material on their platforms, russia, well, i should do the same thing. in fact, russia actually did this when hit when after telegram. here's the headline in that one. if you want to see it rush up tried to shot around tele ground. they did so because most of the material on telegram was very critical of russia. and in fact, durham was critical of russian president vladimir put. and so yeah, i got it. governments are trying to figure this whole new technology out how they're going to figure it out. what are they going to do? can we sit down and maybe come up with a plan or something, right? but the rush, i didn't the rest of this guy, you know what i mean? they didn't arrestin. now, telegram is used by the way, by millions of russians. and it's such as russians. it's used by millions of people all over the world. obviously. in fact, it's favored by many because when you message on telegram,

it's supposed to be more secure, even supposedly encrypted. so why is france being heavily criticized for this by people all over the world? by the way? because arresting a ceo for what people may do or say on his platform or not say, is a lot like the rest of the arresting the head of a phone company for what, what people say or talk about on their, during their private conversations on private lines. you can't control that and here's the double standard. now look at this. look at this, the look at these um pictures i found to share with you many social media sides including twitter and facebook. have also come under similar scrutiny as we discussed. but look out there for the see of facebook was treated. he was wined and dined when he went to france, sat down and got to hang out with the french president my crowd and made sure that nice pictures of the 2 of them. this is a sharp contrast, isn't it?

quite a double standard when you think about it in comparison to the sea of telegram, he wasn't wide in dime. i mean, he's been thrown in jail. and that's kind of where we are right now with this story, my little little, let me bring you into this uh search over the top as you look at the story developed. well, we should point out that according to the officials at telegram, they say that people durham is a french dual citizen, moratti's citizenship. so a citizen of the u i. e, where he now resides. so we'd probably have to further explore whether or not that had any impact as to why they were arresting him. or if this is just on the broader scope of things, a, a way to punish him for not cooperating with french or you. excuse me, european union, you laws regarding censorship, as we've seen in the u. k. man,

how they're shutting things down there in france for example, does not like rumble the the video platform because also they are not sensory. so there's a lot of questions here regarding where france and their belief in freedom of expression and freedom of speech actually lie in 2024. when conveniently, as you just pointed out and showed mark zuckerberg who runs facebook and instagram, are notoriously places where you find a lot of child pornography and even human trafficking just taking place and the brother in it. or by the way you find it everywhere. i mean, is, this is a problem. social media is not, you know, this newscast, where we're very careful and try to be ethical and have certain standards that we have to uphold. social media is just a big party where everybody can go in and say whatever the hell they want. so, i mean that's what it is. that's about parcels. so to say that, oh, there was some stuff that was bad on facebook. there was some stuff that was bad on

delegate. there was some stuff that was bad on, on, on twitter door. yes. and it's going to be there and there's no way you can get rid of it. the question is, what do you hold responsible for? it. maybe you need to just shut it down, but you can't arrest one guy. let the other guy say, no problem. right? i mean that, that's kind of what's going on. yeah. yeah, that's exactly it. now i am no expert in french law, but obviously like here in the us, section $230.00 is a major problem for tech companies as well as those on capital hill, because sometimes it's a clickable and they want to use, you know, these big tech companies, the social media companies and call them, you know, a publisher when, when it's convenient, they just allow them to be a platform and they want them to not moderate other times they want them to moderate. but the key fact here, rick, is that on both sides of the atlantic, what they want, they being the powers in both france and here in washington is that they want

access the powers that be want backdoor right. stuff. and powell durham is not playing ball. well no, because again, there would would, that would be like saying, hey, by the way, uh, ms. manila or mr. rick. uh, anytime you get on your phone, were giving access to the c i a or whoever. so, so they can listen to your call, just wanted let you know, but i wouldn't ever get on my phone. i mean, why wouldn't or the police or the, or the mafia, whoever. all right, listen 2nd story ready, democrats finally finished their convention. all things considered the broadway production went swimmingly. well, well no real news came out of it. it was extremely entertaining and, and it's likely going to boost their lead over mr. trump, even more so. but many are still talking about cala harris's saber. rattling me o'connor speech, and wondering when did the democrats become so hawkish?

so blood, there's the war hungry sounding here. hear it. as commander in chief, i will ensure america not always has the strongest moseley for fighting force in the world. leafy fighting force in the world, we're going to be the biggest, the bad is the best we're going to kill you. we're going to kill everybody up yet. but i'm old enough to tell you that it used to be the democrats who were at least in terms of what they presented in a speech like this in the past. they, with a party of peace, we're going to make sure there's peace in the world. we're going to get rid of the wars republicans and their media partners at fox news, for example. they were the war party, the ones who pushed through the iraq war, not the democrats. right? they've pushed it right down americans, roads. but now it's like the wheels are completely reversed. i mean, i watched it happened when i used to, i covered the iraq war when i worked at and b, c,

it's kind of fascinating to watch this woman. and i know there's reasons for it what they're trying to do and position themselves a certain way. but. but what, what did you think of the vice president harris sounding like a cross between? oh, i don't know john wayne and john bolton like john bolton shaved and put away gone. no, i mean i really feel like what we heard in that that 40 minutes speech that she gave was like the d and c. some in the spirit of john mccain and talked about war ward like you said, blood thirsty, let's kill them. all. i mean, that was the tone of all of this and, and because it seems increasingly that the parties here in the us have seem to have switched priorities and goals and their platform. yes. um you, you've seen a migration of the people that are neo cons, even though the name is, you know, short for neo conservative. yeah. the neo con party is basically the never trump

party, and they have migrated over to the d and c. we saw adam kenzie or the former congressman . go speak. he was given a pint time slot at the dnc convent. you're so right here. so right. yeah, it applied calmly. harris or you know, being vis or that the other thing and promoting their values and what are their values? traditional rewards units. what are the traditional, more strict, it's john mccain's of the 2000 ukraine and then china and iran and then gaza. and then it's like it goes on forever and you're wondering, wow, you guys used to be different. all right, let's talk bobby kennedy, robert f. kennedy junior, the son of the man who would have been president of the united states have not assassinated. and the nephew of j f k, who was also assassinated, says his reputation has been assassinated by our 2 political systems, our 2 party system, most of all by the democrats democratic party, and as well the media who literally chose to ignore him and ridicule him. even when

he had 20 percent of the vote, the tnc allied mainstream media networks maintain a near perfect embargo on interviews with me and his 10 month presidential campaign in 1992 were osborne. okay, the 34 interviews i'm industry networks. in contrast, during the 16 mazda since i declared abc, nbc cbs m. s. nbc and cnn combined gave only 2 live interviews from a that amazing, the other guy got 20. he barely got to kennedy has decided to quit his campaign, though he will not. he was, he's still going to remain on the ballot in most states by the way, which means it's kind of a quasi quit and he's throwing his support to donald trump. drug for his part took the opportunity to announce that investigation. a task force that's going to look

into what americans of always wanted to know, who was really behind the killing of john f. kennedy. and they will be test scores releasing all of the remaining documents pertaining to the assassination of president john f. kennedy. this is amazing the way this develop this weekend 1st r f k junior says, i'm out. any announces he's going to go with trump, then trump announce is among the many things he's going to do is he's going to grade this task force to find out who killed his father and his uncle. what fascinating the way this all played out manella, what were your thoughts? yeah, real quick. rick. let's unpack this clause. i quitting as you put it. he's quad like quitting the campaign only in the states that are considered up for grabs. states like nevada or north carolina that are now considered swing states. he's taking his name off of those ballots in hopes that the voters that he had in those

states will then migrate over to the trump camp with his endorsement. he's hoping it to be a spoiler only to the democratic party. i would say obviously a little bit of vengeance for the way they treated them so poorly when he's been a lifelong democrat and champion, you know, the environmental causes and health insurance and all of that stuff for decades. and when it came time for him to throw his hat in the ring, they stabbed him in the back. so in the 11th hour, that's what he's doing back to them in those those, those purple ish state's data. so he's still remaining on the ballots. on the other ardently blue and ardently red states because he still needs to secure for an independent party in 2028. he needs to secure 5 percent of the voting block in order to get federal funding for the next 2028 cycle. who ever,

that may be as an independent, so he's laying the groundwork as well. so i think this is going to be a great move to shake things up right after the dnc ended point. well made thanks for sharing that with us. that's fascinating. yeah, it's not just that they ignore them. i mean, they did everything possible the only focus on every negative thing that's ever happened in his life and the guy in perfect trust me, by the way, neither mind if there's anybody else, but they really smearing and on things like that. he found a bear once i've left it in a park who cares? but it is what it is and that's where we're going. thanks, manila, great conversation. when we come back, we're going to drill down on of france. the rest of the problems there of and what this really means we're going to be doing by elijah mon. yay. he is live in france . there is. he's a veteran war correspondent, a journalist. he knows a lot about this story and is going to share some details with us. we're so glad he's there. we'll be right back of the take

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ok. so my producer just came in, handed me a list of the charges being announced by of france against the founder of telegram. and for the most part i can take you through it. but one keyword is basically the running line through all of it is complicity complicity. in other words, they're saying that he's complicit for anything bad that was said or done on his platform which to my mind and maybe i'm wrong. we're going to bring a guest to talk about this now is like saying the, the, the ceo of a phone company is complicit. busy or anything,

but anybody talks about or plans on the phone or any other kind of communication device and any company that owns that communication device. so then this gets into some really tricky area. there's a couple of other things up. let me bring in, elijah manya, he's a veteran war correspondent and a journalist. he joins us now. live from france. i'm looking at this. uh, i'm sure you probably looked at it as well. uh, the elijah, what's your take on what you're seeing for the official reason for yanking this man off a plane and throwing them in jail and telling them he might have to be there for 20 years. what festival, it's important to highlight that he was granted the fresh nationality, 3 years ago by the foreign ministry for his services to improve and contribute to influenced action. the influence of spies and the prosperity of the did not send that, they come out,

they cannot make relations and for years think that it was thrown in j. so if you look at the list in your hands, there are 12 charges. yep. the most well, just one of the most significant reason why who was arrested is the 2nd one because he has refused to comment and kate at the request of the local authority which ends escapes all the intelligent services the information documents necessary for our operation. in operating intersection allow by no me. so the other accusation really insignificant, even if they don't very sexy, they talk about not caught the pornography. all of the complexity of all the rest are insignificant, but again, but again let's, let's, let's just stop on that real quick. as you say, it's a significant and people listening at home may not understand what you mean by in significant. what they're saying is not that he had anything to do with pornography or sex or drug sales or any of that stuff. but that people,

using his platform may have used it to do those things and they're going to hold him responsible for that. there's a, there's a far cry between charging me for selling drugs and saying that i happen to live in a block where people sold drugs, right? yes, i actually to re with you. and all this complicity aim to one objective to twist his on to allow the intelligence services to be able to monitor everyone on the ground. and this is something that draws showed resistance for every single part of the that the pressure on and to monitor control. busy and know every single pass and using kind of drawn whatever they want to know, the origin, the place of the transmission. i have the zip pass on the data, etc. so if you your show a picture of a facebook as seo yeah. second. yeah. and then made up with

that and what about home. in fact, if you look at what the facebook and a youtube and all the others they accept to cancer and the need then as of thousands of accounts to the request of various governments. but to get it wrong, accepted only to delete $1300.00 and nothing more because he consider this anything that is on telegram is private. it is owned by the individual it. it is not him who is responsible, but any material that is deleted that is stolen, then he didn't get to the audio. how do you? i'll let me ask you a question, because i'm parceling with this myself. okay, i want to be fair. i'm a journalist and i've always been trained and when i went to the university, minnesota to study journalism and my professors ingrained in me, what are my responsibilities as a journalist? what my ethics are as a journalist about sourcing,

we have specific shield laws in the united states, which tell us we are not allowed to give the government our sources. if i talk to you in private and you tell me rick, i don't want people to know you talk to me it's, i have to protect you. that's my duty as a journalist. now, with these guys in facebook and telegram and all these other places do they're not journalist. so here's the question that i'm always tussling with, and i'm wondering how you feel about this and how people in europe feel about this to the standards that i have to uphold as a journalist, which i uphold to. and i'm very disciplined about them. should those same standards be used on these people who own facebook and twitter and all these other social media sites? what are you sick? i think it talking about the values and principles that we've lost in europe. that is the key and to, to start the not with the ceo tended ground. it started several months ago when or

shut off on the line. the president of the commission came out and said, we have to controlled anything on social media to make, show that the a you do not as a citizen of your receive, missed information, all this information and then the other, what they are eroding the democratic vine. you know, if you're, that was, was a pin up of the civil liberties and free expression in it is now reaching a very long mean trend of also rotarians di regulation c v. all the guys i'll stick retreats and rectory 3 compliance because when you say things like what you just said, it becomes in many ways a matter of opinion. in other words, one man's threat is another man's truth. so, you know,

as long as they say good things about my crown, then that's a good social media side. but the moment they criticize france and perhaps praise china or iran, that's a bad social media side. and those people need to be called to account. that's the problem, right? yes, it is what they told us that the suppose to need to come back home for the context on online platform is inside a convenient pretext to expanding space control over digital communication. and they use digits and services out rather than being a save guard against extremism or harmful material, as opposed to face of censorship to block people from saying the truth. oh, state the mind. so there is a big difference between legitimate, free, of expression that is allowed by the law and this part of our constitution. and the control of all is going behind the control sending us what is a wrong,

what is he's a forward the and how he is selective about what we can say. what we cannot say, i would say, i would think of, you know, i, i'm, you're an expert on french culture, much more than i am. i can tell you about the hispanic world, not the french world, but i would think that this will cause at least a discussion in france. i read that article that i found this morning and lamond, i thought it was generally fair. at least they're trying to figure it out. do you sense that there will be push back to look around doing this in, in, in your opinion and more specifically, in french society. what i think you still have an idea and opinion altura which is no longer the case. now we talked about in europe, there is a lot of talked about the radicalization about terrorism, criminal activity and the headphone uh, social media expression. and all that is to justify the restriction and

exaggerating as a, to, to legitimize increasing state them division into the private publication that people have unfortunate day. we have become a state road system. final question, how much do you think this arrest has to do with the fact that these russian so i don't think it's, this is important. i think what is important is to make sure that any to assume uh, any use or also to media has any way of communication that needs to be controlled by the states or remove completely. the fact that he's rocks on it on to abuse, perhaps to he's a physician. this is where they going to highlight the fact that these russians, if he refuses to collaborate, and i think that would go down when in the minds of people who are ignorant about the reality behind it. and who are blinding to stand behind the government without

questioning that destructive act in the will between ukraine and nate to against russia? is this fascinating, you know, and once again, it's probably a story that we should be discussing. it's an important story. it's one we should talk about, and it's the kind of story that we talk about on the show. sadly, i can almost guarantee you, the story will barely get to mention anywhere in western media. forget about cnn. forget about nbc, forget about the abc, etc. they will generally ignore it, and if they cover it, it will be colored and it will probably be what we call in this business, a 32nd voiceover. so there you have it just thought i'd tell you the difference about what part of the world learns and the other part doesn't get to learn it as your mind. yeah, it's always a pleasure to talk to you. thanks so much for joining us and bringing us up to date on this fascinating story. thank you for inviting me. that's our show. remember to

always be looking outside as we like to say around here your own box because groups don't live in your particular parks to through everywhere. i'm rick sanchez. thank so much for being with us. we'll see you next to the in the united states trying to impose sanctions on russia. that's the best thing the, let's go to happened to russia because a sentence on russia, against agriculture, against the other items, or made russia fetus hurting samsung, so as on agriculture and now, so the major grant export are no longer defendants on the united states and europe

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me so is on the form i'm suppose to fits it. but he is. what do you do? is you be the low, you know? because it all could as rosie to play, also as much as it will not be going to be m i. 16 secret admission to establish a phone issue on the ground goes to the table in the city for the supplies they bought it. and also when i decided that's cool, a full comes up to stick across the kids kind of thing. yeah. so use order for me, but it was witnessed her thoughts and arguments in favor of his article. truth is who again.