it is this idea that everybody is deserve and then suggested that virtue absorbing here the breaking news of paris sufficiently charges hobbled, are of with 6 alleged crimes committed via his telegram platform and ordered him to remain in france after pain of 5000000 bureau bound. questions miles over. why the telegram c e. o has been taken to court by the likes of meta on america separate burg locks free. that's why has platforms been used to commit crimes also ahead the the idea of his belief of launched his biggest rate on the west bank in over 20 years report as a killing 10 pallets in, in the it's really foreign minister calling for the fight and got the to spread to the area the

live in moscow. you're watching artsy international. i'm rachel ruble. we start with breaking news telegram ceo pob, older off has been officially charged by french authorities. he's accused of 6 alleged crimes committed via his online platform. mr. drive has been placed under judicial supervision on a 5000000 euro bell and banned from leaving france while the investigation is ongoing. he faces up to 10 years in prison if found guilty of quote, administrating an online platform to enable analyst that transaction as part of an organized criminal group. he's been ordered to report to police twice a week. parents has also revealed that the preliminary investigation of drugs case began in february. the telegram founder himself has not made any statements since being detained at an airport outside paris on saturday. this order over the rest of sparked a global uproar of criticism from tech giants politicians and even some world

leaders over the past 4 days a multimedia know that broadcasting on. so talk, live instagram, facebook life, etc, etc. on telegram. even though the in prison inst found her in that pulse of persecution, maxim pressure and blackmail in the twisting, the arm of social media and alternative communication networks around the world. the use of power globally persecuted to substrate because people do rove is an interesting case. back in 2018, russia started a mild legal prosecution on that day, 26 organizations from the west, sewing the request to the russian state, not to violate freedoms. it's only being 5 or 6 years, it's become completely normal for them to arrest him. to them on the shut down of telegram in the western world. everything has become reversed. things are changing in accordance with wisdom, interest. international leaders aren't the only ones left outraged by the case against a possible juror of in paris. when you say you are committed to freedom of expression,

you are lying. we have a letter from france that proves this. without a doubt, we had to shutdown rumble in france because you have no commitment to freedom of expression. it would be helpful to the global public to understand more details about why he was arrested. the us government declared war on those parts of the internet that are not under its control. anything that is not subject to the us deep state mass surveillance, drag net like silicon valley big tech hostages must be assimilated or destroyed. mega blowed was the beginning, then tick tock. now telegram and we know who's next puddle dirt of left russia. when the government tried to control his social media company telegram. but in the end, it was put in who arrested him for allowing the public to exercise free speech. it was a western country, a bite in administration, ally and enthusiastic nato member that locked him away. puddle dirt sits in a french jail, denied living warning to any platform owner who refuses to censor the truth at the

behest of governments until agencies, dark mrs. descending fast on the formerly free world, some critics appear to even be directly threatening acts of a law must. among them is a veteran us politician, alexander vin men who happens to have a history of involvement and scandals related to ukraine while do of holes. french citizenship is arrested for violating french rule. this has broader implications for other social media, including twitter. there's a growing intolerance for platforming. this in fluid malign influence in the growing appetite for accountability most could be none of us. well, public criticism of the telegram founders the rest of the mounted worldwide. it took the french president 2 days to make a statement on the case, and when he did finally speak out menu, my crime claims the case has nothing to do with politics. frances, more than anything attached to freedom of expression and communication to innovation and to the spirit of enterprise, it will remain so the rest of the telegram president on french territory took place

as part of an ongoing judicial investigation. this is in no way a political decision. and while people derive has been accused of crimes committed by his platform, some of his social media competitors are enjoying freedom without any prosecution, despite their networks. being used to break the law are to use the marina post reva investigates. how many times have we heard that facebook or instagram should do more to avoid child pornography and terrorism, or the western brands that are regularly accused of child labor practices? new disturbing lawsuit against meta, the parent company, a facebook and instagram new mexico's attorney general is accusing the social media giant, and it's ceo, mark zuckerberg of enabling child sex abuse and trafficking audit sites. destination by the wall street journal. and the university research are saying that middle platforms on to instagram, is connected and promoting a network of accounts dedicated to under age sex content. i know you don't mean it

to be so, but you have blood on your hands. our investigation into met a social media platforms demonstrates that they are not safe spaces for children, but rather prime locations for predators to trade child pornography, and solicit minors for sex. as a career prosecutor who specialize in internet crimes against children. i am committed to using every available tool to put an end to these horrific practices, and i will hold companies and their executives accountable whenever they put prophets ahead of children's safety. has suddenly been arrested. nope, but when it comes to telegraph, they waited for the juggler right away. the double standards here are sold glare, and the people starting to speak out online points. and now the all vs. in light of the arrest of pablo during what stops france through arrest toyota, c o terrorist to use their cars for transportation. zachary burgess, selling our information. so he is free, but pub,

older of didn't. so he's in jail. simple. is that holding telegrams c o. pub? older of criminally, liable for harm done by his ap is like holding toyota c o accountable for terrorist using their vehicle. it's melancholy, it's a sure, but they don't see it. they are adamant that do or all that. and his brother are complicit and possessing distribution, offering or making available pornographic images of minors in an organized group. and the fact that telegrams corporates with all sorts these seems to have sealed europe's fates. that despite the fact that there is quote no suggested either of the door or brothers were directly involved in any of the legal activities identified by the investigation. well, if francis so serious about this and wants to hold tech companies accountable for the concepts under platforms. so all up why only do are off the

rest in platform executives because of their legit failures to sufficiently moderate content even content as the stub and and humble as content that palms children starts us down to dundas road that threatens free expression and gives too much power to the government to suppress speech or the day if you are that concerned about terrorism and child pornography even started down a problem. so it's that easy. remember, when ross at the job laugh, what did all these concerns? individuals have to say, then we call them representatives of the you in the council of europe, the o. s. c, the european union, the united states, and other concern governments to scrutinize and publicly challenge russia's actions in order to uphold the fundamental rights to free dom of expression and privacy. both online and offline, as stipulated in binding international agreements to which rusher has a policy. well, that's for the couple of years and now france not only seems to understand the

dangerous, but wants to take it further by looking up this developer all v f. and it's incredible how quickly americans stand up and say, well, we would never do that. that chilling effect is why the united states has constitutional and statutory protections that ensure platforms can host a wide range of ideas without facing crippling legal consequences. so internally in the phones would disagree with that statement. it's fairly obvious that roles change depending on the goal at hand. and the goal here is very murky. instagram has a massive child exploitation problem, but no arrest as luck, as he senses free speech and gives governments back to access to use the data. it appears that it all comes down to the same old you're either with us or against us . and if you're with the west and this case firms, then you'll need to give them a walk. they want the keys, the name is the passwords, the info, they demand. you either give them a full access or they'll take your freedom. that's friends who live

r k for you. all right, let's don't deeper into the story with our guess this, our joining me, our author and former new york university professor michael recht, involved and lead attorney and founder of muslim legal hassan shipley. thanks to the both of you for joining us. um, hold on, i'll start with you. what do you make of the charges pressed against the telegram founder um over alleged crimes committed via his platform. i think it's a complete assault on global freedom and liberty, particularly freedom of speech, the right to privacy, and really the right to question and challenge the narrative of those and empower. it's interesting to see that this arrest happened not long after a major hack happen regarding israel, which is committing the heart of genocide right now. and important information was lead on telegram regarding the client's israel is doing. and then within days, it seems that the present president actually invited that had a telegram to visit him in france, setting him up, and then the rest, the right when he lands. and i think frankly just chose the desperate issue. they

are desperate that they don't need the battle in the marketplace of ideas that people are you. there are the narrative of their power and the rest, the worthy and they're trying to push to send my it's literally, you know, speech expression of michael. to what extent would you say it's fair and even legal to prosecute a ceo for alleged crimes that were committed on his platform? it doesn't make any sense. so it would be as if you could arrest the ceo of a, one of the major telecom comp companies for somebody making some kind of a statement on, on, on the phone it's, it's absurd. it's either these are going to be considered utilities that are used by people or else they have to be considered public publishers. in which case the owners would have to boucher everything that was transmitted on those sites. does it as it stands right now? it's hardly hypocritical and extremely draconian that this kind of crack is taking

place. it's political because as we see, soccer burke is not under arrest for the child trafficking and for an arbor fee that goes on on facebook and instagram. but we have about this particular telegram see being held apparently without real explicit charges for a something that somebody else did on his side. i think it's new to chris. all right, and joining us now is independent us senate candidate diane sarah. diane, thanks for joining the panel. you know, these charges against mr. drew off concerned organize to criminal activity ranging from child pornography to drug trafficking. it is quite a damming list of charges, but some critics say arresting the ceo could be a suppression of free speech and that governments should not have the power to do that. what's your take on that, diane? well, 1st of all, i would say, as we know from bill binnie,

formerly at the n s a whistle blower, is that anyone who has a cellphone, i have the intelligence agencies, basically know everything about you and everything that you were doing. so if they actually wanted to crack down on drug trafficking, human trafficking, child pornography, they could do so very easily. obviously they're not interested in that. uh, they are interested in suppressing uh, any free disc course. uh, they don't believe that people are capable of discerning the truth for themselves, or they don't want them to. and i think there's a lot hanging in this because we've had a narrative in the west that ukraine is going to win the war against russia. if we just keep arming them enough, uh, and also they are cracking down on discussing genocide. you're not supposed to even

use that word. i just read legislation or proposed legislation from my own congressman that students there are now code words which are anti semitic like zionism. which really means that you wish, which it doesn't, but i, so i just see this is part of a pattern. we have the rate on scott writers house, the rate on demetrius times house, the detention of richard mad hurst. then we have this and i believe the owner or ceo of rumba. busy was in europe at the time that this happened and got out of europe as quickly as he could. i'm not sure where he went after that, but i had him, he rayed i think it is a suppression of, of free speech house on, along those lines. one of telegrams, competitors, facebook has also faced its fair share of scandals related the content that has been on its platform. mark sucker bird has faced

a lot of criticism for not censoring enough, but he has never been arrested on these charges. why do you think pablo durham is being treated differently as well? because he did not ti been to government suppression and control of his platform. and clearly as the russ isn't outrages, assault on liberty should really concern us all. and again, i think it reflects the fear of those in power in chart that they are losing the marketplace in the battle of the marketplace of ideas. i think the world is rising up and asking, why is the west supporting this worth of gender? why do we use the promises 9 in our, anyone who challenges them or provides even a platform that challenges them? most people usually see what the question in the final point i will say dr. burke himself just recently admitted that they were directv into government pressure sensor people when it came to pull that base because they're really open the door for the government and has given interest censorship. let me get in, and that's why they're not facing the see percussion is that the telegrams to you

is facing. he's essentially being held hostage essentially being blackmailed and exported in order to get boxes by that the platform to be under the control of western governments. and that should concern all people about freedom is michael. i'm a couple drops case or marks that gilbert has admitted that the bite and administration made him censor. cobit related content, while pushing the russia gave that conspiracy narrative on his platforms. why didn't you make of the timing of meadows the matter to submission? do you think that he's likely to face any legal repercussions is not at all. i think it's the cases where he is basically trying to immune immune us himself, immunize himself from all criticism. and all legislative attempts to bring a facebook to heal which they, they really. busy ready. busy are agents or apparatus is of the state. facebook's funding came through the into tell the c i a funding agency visa

b palance here. uh, so that they definitely have always been state apparatus is opening the back door or facebook to the t. s a n s a and just about anybody that any agency, any intelligence agency that wants access the so this to work and that the supposedly took place between the binding administration and. busy the and facebook instagram is really no. busy it's no real deviation from the course that they've been working for the state all this time. diane, mister, off has walked out of the court in paris after pain of 5000000 euro bell, but he's still not made any statements. why do you think that he's been keeping silence since his arrest? i don't know. i think that's the question for him. i, i don't know. i don't know if there was a,

an agreement signed and some kind of non disclosure or something like that. i don't know that often happens as long as soon as possible during the rest telegram app downloads have searched in many countries including france and the us. why do you think people are so eager to join the network now? well, i think because people want a place that's safe, that's not controlled by the lead. so many government and the fact that the seal was willing to get arrested rather than give up the key through the platform and open up the back doors to the government. and we know that our governments are not acting in the interest of the people. i mean, our governments are being used funding see what the legal wars they're being used to support genocide, the killing of tens of thousands of thousands of the billions. they don't have the interest of humanity at the base of a very long and therefore i think people appreciate having telegram as a little secure platform that will not our to the thor attorney. we reviewed it, diane, up back to you. we really haven't seen much of

a global outcry over public drugs arrest. we have seen some world leaders and speak out and as well as some attack leaders. but what sort of global up for do you think we'd have seen if mr. drop had been arrested in some other country. for example, russia well, i'm sure we would have heard that origin was getting ready to assassinate him or something or other, you know it's, it's really an unbelievable double standard. i just want to throw another thing in here because, you know, we're just a couple of months away from the presidential elections in the united states. and speaking of censorship, we had the story 4 years ago of the hunter bite and the laptop. and we had 50 former intelligence agents, really, disgustingly prostitute themselves to sign a letter saying that this looked like typical russian, this information. and it was accurate. and i don't know, i mean that right there,

suppressing uh the truth about something in the bite and family and it wasn't just, hunter is crazy activity. but his father's activities and various business deals that were made between the 2 of them, which are highly suspect to say the least. that is actual manipulation of the elections, which was done to suppress crucial information from reaching the voters of the united states. 2 months before the election, so i suspect a given that pattern and given that i haven't seen anything much that's been done to change that we may expect more suppression of the truth in the coming weeks. it is really concerning my goal. is there a way to have a safe media space for the world while keeping it both free and plain from crime?

yeah, i would say the 1st step would be banning governments from using it to manipulate the population using propaganda and censorship. that would be the 1st thing because they are the most dangerous elements that we. busy to contend with our office or. busy western governments and the way they are using social media to manipulate and propagandized to the public. that's the, that's the 1st concern that i have for making social media safe for the public. hassan instagram has been permanently blocking pro palestine activist accounts over there, post about the war in gaza. meanwhile, instagram has been accused of promoting accounts that spread child pornography. what does that say about the networks model? ration priorities. mean, i think that they sold their souls in their subservient to a jewish supremacy. design is that our, have hijacked, the us media, have hijacked hollywood, have hijacked the government,

have hijacked western nations in order to enable their her ethic support of the israel. that acts like a parasite. i mean it takes billions of dollars out of the us economy the to the i'm just wondering why you would like to have it serviced. and in order to advance that, you emailed agenda that lives of orange pellets. and in children, we've asked to have mask the media of congress, and it'd be see that happen even how a mehta and instagram and facebook is sensor nelson invoices even the whole website on my walk from palestine central. com and got thousands of completes for people who is this the genocide having their tongue shut down. meanwhile, people say let's chill all are often plastic gossip. their accounts go without function. diane, to what extent, in your opinion, if any, should governments be allowed to have a say in censoring social media content as well, we used to have certain standards, for example, you weren't supposed to publicize the various kinds of violent crime. it creates

copycat uh, repetition. so certain things of explicit violence that sexual nature, i think there should be a certain regulations also on video games, which were designed by the military to increase the kill ratio to increase. i mean, they were fine, typically tested to make people more willing to get over the natural inhibition of killing another human being. these things should not be marketed to children. we have a problem now because we have a government, which is so corrupt that people have a legitimate question. well, whom would you trust to enforce the standards? and i think there we really, we need a florentine renaissance. we need something which, where people once again, become acquainted with principles like the dignity of a man,

the value of human life, the value of the human mind, an aesthetic sense of beauty. and so at the moment it's very tough because i can't think of many people in the government are government agencies who my would trust to do this. but on the other hand, i do think there are certain types of content that should not be publicly available . michael uh, tech science including meta and the amazon hubbards, malaysia to give up its plans to regulate social media. i don't know specifically much about how strict malaysia is with this regulation, but i'm wondering if, if you have any thoughts about that, if these tech giants will be successful, as we see more and more countries try to track down on, on social media content or i think that. busy relations are going to continue and i think what they end up doing is creating monopolies who then have complete control over the info sphere and like why so you don't have real

competition and, and likewise they are in bed with the state and therefore they can get away with whatever they want. so i think that's interesting that the some countries have regulations that they're trying to over. busy busy as in the united states, i believe, for example, that the big tech companies are very much in favor of regulation because that keeps up competitors. they set the bar so high, the competition competitors cannot survive. and like wise, they're able to mobilize the industry and then basically do whatever they want to have. the government overlooked certain aspects of their practices and to tend to crack down on others in it. for example, like like the case of the war and impact on palestine by israel. this is being censored all over the place. whereas, you know, people calling for the whole, the cost of the palestinian people. nothing happens to those accounts at all. in

fact that promoters and hassan, it really isn't even just censorship when it comes to palestine, the finance trip. the currency for example, has frozen to palestinian assets following an order from israel stating that companies were linked to terrorism. so we have a government calling the shots here. what, what are your thoughts on that? oh, that's the crazy thing. no one is doing more terrorism than israel. israel is the biggest tears of state. it's killed every single day of hundreds, if not thousands of civilians. the majority of those people that they killed are women and children. they are decapitating children. they have literally been caught . raping soldiers have been caught raping palestinian prisoners, and that is really is actually pointed to freedom. and now they're doing towards where they are celebrating their full actions. and i think what they're showing the world is that they can do whatever they want. and you know what you're reading community because they have their jewess, the premises mafia network that basically controls the us congress controls the media and basically,

so on the whole we can do whatever we want and we'll get away with it. and i think that's why the western governments are so heavy, interesting question because they're afraid that people are starting to wake up and ask questions that they may not like the answers do. well, i certainly think this is a topic will be discussing for a long time to come. my thanks to our panel tonight, independent us senate candidate, diane sarah author, and a former new york university professor michael wrecked involved and lead attorney and founder of muslim legal hassan shibley's. thank you all for your thoughts. you soon. but least 10 palestinians have reportedly been killed in the west bank as the idea of launches a mass of operation, it is believed to be the biggest rate on the area in over 20 years. the israel has done the raids a counter terrorism operation with its military, launching multiple strikes and ceiling off the towns of janine and to taryn. local media reported on the presence of as rarely, military vehicles, including tanks,

bulldozers helicopters, and the drones. the idea of entered the west bank overnight forces 1st surrounded the town of janine block in exits, entrances and access the hospitals according to palestinian officials. meanwhile, israel's foreign minister claims the operation was part of a full scale war, comparing it to the gaza operation. we need to deal with this, right, exactly as we deal with tara infrastructure in garza, including the temporary evacuation of palestinian civilians in any of his step needed. this is a war in every sense, fought as reformist the democratic factions, bugs person, dimitri de leon. a said israel is ethnically cleansing the west bank. well, the world is busy with gaza. the extension of the genocide that is taking place in gaza. israel is the thinking advantage that the whole world is paying more attention to guys while it has been silently, amex, it, and its thing. parts of the west bank,

silently promoting and protecting is on has the tires groups and are today. and they are taking advantage of that by conducting this ethnic cleansing operation, but literally operation unoccupied for live uh, westbank. and uh, basically it is, uh, it has uh, killed over 10 people in just few hours. uh, there are tons of injuries, destruction, to infrastructure, and calls for displacing civilians are coming out of the cabinet. members of this really ministry which proves the ethnic cleansing, instead of this a military operation. all right, just stay with our to international. i'll be back with much more news in about half an hour. i'll see you then by the

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