[000:00:00;00] the the, it was completely unaware of mister dorval's visit to france. that's quite normal by the way, because i've never been aware of the comings and goings of nationals from all over the world. whether they have french nationality or not. as a manual con claims, he wasn't aware of that. the tech cheats planned to visit front back in 2018 macro and report. lee dined with a telegram co founder people do it all. when the messaging app was convenient to western part of symbolic moment, where somebody is clearly being held accountable for things that she didn't do. but that almost certainly is, is going on inside his platform. the american john left to expose the washington the censorship of the twitter and says,

do it all being charged for what he had absolutely nothing to do. so, in general, we advocate that the situation and mr. harris, that held region should be the subject of agreements by the african countries themselves. russia is a foreign minister right there highlighting most coast on something non interference in the affairs of african countries. a fall, denmark is closing its embassies and mildly ad blinking of 5. so what type of thing to put pressure on the power of nation and key of the defense ministry confirms losing its 1st f, 16, the 5 digit during a russian and missed all attack. while the ukrainian politician suggests frightened least by uh, is that truly what brought down that 60 the, all the way from the aging to washington, berlin and bangladesh. so busy program with their top stores kicking off right now . so was it a setup?

the french president has denied media reports to the meeting, had been prepared for him with public dollars prior to do it off the rest of the powers and manual macro on times. he had nothing to do with a telegram co founder being detained. this is austin films and need as far as i'm concerned. i was completely unaware of mister dorval's visit to france. that's quite normal by the way, because i've never been aware of the comings and goings of nationals from all over the world. whether they have french nationality or not before. it's not true that i issued any invitation whatsoever. it's totally false. why was not supposed to see mr. do it off either at the end of last week or in the days to come? as people do it all 5 faces up to 10 years in prison, they found guilty on a slew of charges. the french capital is graffiti, with support for him. over now it's what contributed rachel mazda and diving deep into how do it off suddenly turn from the west and dialing into a scape goat. back before the front state considered telegram founder pep out there off

a pariah facing preliminary charges on everything from eating and bedding drug trafficking to organized crime and propagation of child porn. because simply founding an app apparently now means that you're literally driving the getaway car for every criminal that happens to use it. you're off somehow found the time is busy crimes free to dine with french president a menu and back home. 6 years before pavel juror of land is in a french holding cell, the anti establishment, founder of the messaging that telegram was in a very different position in france. having lunch with president the manual ma crone at the luncheon 2018 which hasn't been previously reported, the cron invited the russian born durrell to move telegram to paris. people familiar with the discussion said, drove declined at the time. the french leader even discussed granting french citizenship to him. one of the people said, it sounds like nicole,

the leader of list stuff definition was all up in durance grill, talking about making it official within naturalization that was mysteriously fast tracked, and also proposing that telegram being moved to france. when pressed about that naturalization, my call just said then something that he personally does, basically for rich guys and making effort to speak french, that i've been using this with you. also, in terms of naturalization, it is indeed a decision that we made in 2018 as i recall, which was taken in a completely assumed strategy to allow men and women who are office athletes entrepreneurs to become citizens. often they make the effort to learn the french language. these are people who develop wealth and innovation in the world, and they are welcome to become french citizens. so i made sure that mr. du or off became one of them, just like i did with mr. spiegel, an american entrepreneur as well as the mac doesn't athletes. i am in the state of law where justice operates independently. so what happened here?

well, let's just say that they initially really liked his branding a russian who at a spot with moscow over the app which in their branding stands for freedom. and it was briefly banned in 2018 in russia, sparking protests around the country in favor of a free internet, complete with paper airplane prop symbolizing telegrams logo. so this is the kind of thing that can be leveraged by the state department that's constantly trying and to parlay any unrest. injuries in change says who an actual former state department official telegram is, is very, very powerful vehicle for the us state department to be able to mobilize protests, to be able to galvanized political support. the national endowment for democracy was actually paying the main administrators of the telegram channels, who were orchestrating those rights. those protests, not employees of telegram, but people in general, administrators, the people are using it or organizing others to use right? us and french,

shared military intelligence and diplomatic and economic interest in or in arresting problem. and finally, getting the leverage they have craved for so long to be able to both control, con, kilograms, content, migration practice. but also, you know, the ability to get this backend access to it for, you know, to just read every russian text message, effectively tell them apparently featured so prominently as an activist tool in the ronnie and protests in january 2018 as the most popular messaging app in that country that ends up being permanently banned just a few months later under the pretext of national security. so it's around this time that your office being wined and dined by not home, according to the french press, with natural really not seeming to mind what was brewing behind telegrams, poke of encryption, as long as it was causing problems for others. now around that time, back home was also like, hey, why don't you get your little app over here?

and he was pretty much pressuring drugs to relocate the app to friends. meanwhile, telegram went on to help back to this communicate with each other during the western backed protests in hong kong, again, spacing, which of course were framed by the western process totally organic and leader this because the us of course, has absolutely no interest in using home or taiwan against china. as we seen over and over again. but more, we instantly the office been linked to this summer's, and time migrant unrest in britain and has started to come under fire from western governments like spain, norway, in germany as it proliferates across the globe. it's really not hard to see how the same western governments that apply its role as a facilitator of democracy in other countries may not appreciate it doing the same at home to the point where it suddenly becomes convenient to point out that it's not just freedom fighting activists who are cruising down telegrams, encrypted information highway,

but also an assortment of sex pass terrorists and money monitors. and just as conveniently, any roadblocks that they're able to set up through lothair against or off or otherwise would just happen to allow them to peer right into everyone's car window . russia is a foreign ministry spokesman says that while macro on playing has to be a free speech. defend sofa. he's done precisely the opposite. emmanuel, i'm a chrome during his speech in belgrade. so this is not about political persecution of dura, but about legal proceedings. i think the next question to my chrome will be, what is it like to be in the place of those whom you ground the slick used yesterday of what you're doing today? by numerous requests, we're playing the sun. try walking in my shoes by depression mode for manual from sunny perez. yeah. oh yeah. we were talking with, i talked to her so a garland nixon who says it's unlikely that the do it off will receive any federal

because as he says, the west seems so obsessed in his prosecution. i don't have any confidence that um, even if uh the go to court that the owner of telegram could possibly get a fair trial based on the kind of things that have happened in the west recently. i mean, if you look at what happened with julian assigns, if you look at recently what's been happening with the correct down, whether it's uh, richard met her, scott ritter on various people who say things that are controversial regarding the government narrative is what's called the rules based or basically in that is that the united states and its allies, or in this instance it's colonies in europe, can do anything they want to. they have, as long as they have the permission of the united states, of course the united states will try to use, you know, clause will deniability. this is to me i, i firmly believe that us intelligence is a part of this. and that basically, they're doing effectively what, what was called in the past by the c, i a extraordinary rendition. and what they would do in the past is if they wanted

someone tortured rather than bring them here, what would be a legal they would have a, one of their uh, you know, a host country kidnapped the person and they would, they would torture them somewhere else. they would farm out their dirty work. personally, i believe that us intelligence is farming out their dirty work to france, so that france can do it. and i think they're really upset and not because of the, of the actions that were taken. whether it's, you know, child abuse, etc, child for advocating. i think they're really upset because they don't have a back door so that they can utilize telegram for their intelligence activities around the world. quote, a paradigm shifting moment. that's how investigative journalist not tie, be his brand at the french prosecution of pa, they'll do it off. mister ty, but who's known for exposing towards his previous collusion with the american government, says the rest of the telegraph founder was a new low for media, a citizenship. here's a quick types of mass interview with ashton, with tennessee, the program going on the ground. you can watch it uh all day on saturday here on,

on things worse now than when you would documenting the censorship in the twitter files. yeah. as of today. yeah. know this moment in time, especially the, the arrest and the attention of durham is a paradigm shifting moment. and i think the history is kind of free expression in the west. uh, yeah. that there been rumors and threats and there were been there's been a lot of saber rattling in the direction of people like you on musk ever since the passage of the digital services act in europe to the effect of you must comply or else there will be crippling penalties, but the detention aspect of it is something that's completely new coupled with threats by former national security executives like alexander vin. here in the states is this the united states behind the scenes of acting to attack and durham of a head of

a us election in november. and how would we find that out? as you'd be very difficult to find out, i've heard so many theories about what actually happened and you know, in the last 3 or 4 days, there are a lot of people who believe that it's specifically connected to the war and ukraine . that there are issues that the united states military or middle has with communications on telegram. but in the bigger picture, it really doesn't matter. there's a perception issue here, which is that whether he was uh, you know, arrested because of local french violations, which is what the french government claims. whether it was for following a file, the dsa, as some european officials hinted at before his arrest or whether it was something else. all the exec tech executives have been generally on notice for a while now that they are going to be held accountable in one way or another for

the behavior of their own customers. and this is just the, it's a symbolic moment where somebody is clearly being held accountable for things that she didn't do. but that almost certainly is, is going on inside his platform. and yet another attack, although so and i'll tell being the western and mainstream narratives while speaking to the campaign, roddy in dresden and approach the stage, attempting to douse german lecturing, populate a sort of walking next with the red paint. the 50 year old was quickly tackled cofton taken away by security, but his motives still unclear. though ms. voss and connect spot, he was full value this year, which has advocated a cutting off military a to ukraine. politician did eventually resume hosp page a, mag, you can see that some people don't want us at all. i think that speaks very well for us. and so again,

never let yourself be intimidated. we won't let ourselves be intimidated, neither. we are changing this country. russian relations with center goal as well as other african countries are based on mutual respectful political independence. and moscow insist that africa should deal with its own affairs independently. well, that's, according to russia, is a foreign affairs minister who spoke of the press conference with his son, the gullies, comfortable enough. we have the same or similar approaches to most of the key issues of world politics, russia, and send a goal, are committed to the basic principles of international law, including the sovereign and quality of states, non interference in their internal affairs. and of course, respect for the right of peoples to independently determine the ways of their political and socio economic development. in general, we advocate that the situation in this a harris, the hell region should be the subject of agreements by the african countries themselves. meanwhile, denmark,

because it owls the closure over at that bc's and that's a hell nation's of molly. and, but it kind of fast. so it was part of, it's a new africa strategy inside that a series of military coups and upside health and recent years. well, that's break down the story. there are a lot of new ones as to it. as a correspondent, none of we're going to now explain into christmas. they could see upon it takes the whole region as it moves to as a focal point of sifting alliances. once again, modeling is in but kind of fossil us to all stalwarts of the t 5. so how light is not only serve a ties with a few, but they have turned towards the width is adversary's man to the pivot has now begun to show the impact of some of those long standing relationships. denmark, one has become the latest wisdom come see, to close the embassies in marty, and putting a fossil following the likes of norway, sweden and frost have listen to this. we have a clear interest in the african countries looking towards us in europe as they chopped the costs for the future. we must demonstrate that we offer an attractive

alternative to the increasing chinese and russian influence on the continent. ok, so the close embassies. deadlock pads, open, new embassies incentive go to these. yeah. and or one to these locations, seemingly bit to surfing its strategic interest and enhancing relationships within reach is 8 times more stable and promising you to denmark had absolutely no qualms that have been embassies in countries ruled by western fact i'm dictators for decades. and so on. the states who said we all seen such an age and one could easily see that to the width is doing to this the house, what it's been doing to rush to for us to practically isolate to the countries because of the inconvenience, independent foreign policies and the recent patches of times, the ukraine by monte m. z also not making things any easier. as we know that choosing moscow over 2 of his bond to land in the country to the blacklist off the west. and while they tried to paint the picture of

a will to not to the i didn't watch. so reality shows that the is a more complex picture. india, one is one of the prominent regional giants taking a new wants to approach to the ukranian conflict, refusing to be told who it can and can be friends with, despite washington's free shot, i've been glad to see again the strength of the international alliances come together to, to support you, printer is in its efforts to defend itself. and so i think that's the important the piece here is to try to protect and preserve the international order. we understand . india is a long relationship with russia, and india has to make it sound determinations about where it's wants to be on, on the scale. the balanced approach to the conflict is a bit as solve the global south imaging as a strategic force. and it's available to many countries,

no longer wants to be exclusively tied to a use needs blocking voltages. this is, of course, in contrast to denmark and is in line with washington's blue book. i have, i'm distance themselves from money and picking a bustle while keeping the close eyes, which african countries will be most useful in the future. in terms of natural resources in 2051 and every 4 people in the world. we live in africa one and every field, the what else you will be african given these developments that you must for it's efforts to be the, prefer the boss know of african countries and ensure that it is able to deliver what is needed. they continue to space the need to adopt a proactive approach to contents a needs and a russian influence on the african continent advocating for a more comprehensive state to see when in reality, the factual for resources will say foreign policy in years to come even as african states themselves are clear about how they see the admission and quite clear that

despite the end of the new menu, wisdom power has continued to exploit the continents of sources. and people in many ways that to perpetuate a scene of modern day slavery. and that needs to stop. so isn't video these, those imperialists consider that we belong to them and a wealth also belongs to them. they think that they are the ones who must continue to tell us what is good for our states, africa, our continent that suffered so much because of being paired, always, this arrow is gone forever. our resources will remain for us in our populations. it seems that did mock is only missing go of money and picking a fuss. so because like many wasted with nice is, it's telling us is off maintaining a foothold and the region looks quite slim. but positioning itself closer to the states does not $65.00, a major change and it's fine. policy on the continent allows us to focus a new applicant strategy simply means new lyrics. it's not the same old truth.

meanwhile, the us has failed to impose this agenda on china, though that is the summary of america's national security advisers trip to beijing . off the china refuse to put t as interests 1st. in the cost of the new crime. we have the opportunity to exchange views on the war against ukraine over the course of the last 3 days. we didn't reach any particular plan with respect to diplomacy in large part because united states very rigorously adheres to the simple maxim of nothing about ukraine without ukraine. so ultimately will be up to ukraine to decide how it wants to proceed with diplomacy and negotiations. and well then paging their solid, i met with those aging thing. the nation's foreign minister and the chairman of the chinese central military commission is the 5th time he is mad with a china is something different about over the course of the last year and a half. it's also the 1st official trip to china by the us national security advisor since 2016 and offer his visit at the white house,

announced president biden n g r. expect to hold a phone call at some point. in the near future, you will someone topic of the issue of bilateral ties, which includes us military support of tie one tensions of the south china sea. and of course trade dispute as american levies tire ups on a range of chinese exports. however, that was reportedly know from the agreements reached on the masses and we spoke to professor and the juice, the teacher kind of list of joseph mahoney. he says, washington is just not willing to solve issues in a meaningful way. have a, have a listen to this. you know, given the message you crate and cause us and the significant shift and policies will likely see if truck when's the election? the white house has a compelling reason to try to consolidate its positions and make them uh what some have described is truck proof. now, while china can play a constructive role of helping to resolve the conflict in both places, i think it's been rather clear to badging thus far,

that neither bite and nor sullivan are ready to do so in a meaningful way as announced. perhaps, given the recent developments around pers, so in hopes of the ground at some well shifted invasion, but that wouldn't be misguided rather of binding. and sullivan are running out of time. and this is probably 6 paging just fine, but i can't find it. so what some partners have been claiming the f sixteens going to be a game changer in the ukraine conflict. but now the 1st one has gone down in flight . you create a new defense ministry, announce the multi roll. the 5 digit quote crashed in an ad defense commission while taking on a salvo of russian missiles and the pilot was killed. in the incident, however, it is really not clear exactly what happened because while she says the pilot arrow was not the cause of the crash or ukraine, m p. 's says the f. 16 was brought down by friendly fire. the merits in west according to my information,

the ukrainian f. 16 was shot down by the patriot anti aircraft missile system due to discord nation between units. the reports noted the heat loss control wars war, such episodes, all possible. but the culture of lies in the combined ukrainian forces, as well as the now the senior military headquarters leads to the fact that the military decision management system does not improve on the basis of truthful, consistently collected analytics. in fact, it was sons and even collapses, as it happens in the pop cross direction. and none of the generals have been punished. it went off a few cranes patriot system, which of course was given to key. if i washington could have been behind the a crash, a dependent on this to say, i cannot confirm the incident, i prefer you the craniums to speak to their own operations. we, as the united states are tracking b, s explains that. we appreciate the question,

but i'm just not going to get into any more specifics about the incident of wall street journal report says that the f sixteens provided the key of honorable to russian at defense is adding your credit in pilots like experience. that's in addition to many of the aging jets having already been in use for decades and reside, and us air force, lieutenant colonel carrick woodkalski. she says, west and military equipment simply cannot turn the tide for kia. well, actually thought it might have come a week or 2 before this but, but it's kind of inevitable. the, the small numbers that they have a means that they can't use them the way we might use them in, in the way they were designed to be used. so they're very, they're highly vulnerable in just so many ways. logistically, operationally, technically they're just highly vulnerable. so this is a sign of, of what's, what's he had to come? i think at this late stage, i don't think that they can make much difference except to further make the

ukrainians feel bad about, about their war effort. but you know, it's a and had every f 16 that they wanted with as many trained ukrainian pilots as they needed a 2 and a half years ago. that's a different story. but right now, with the way the country has been decimated, the loss of territory. the destruction of some of the infrastructure, inability to logistically supply and support these airplanes and the rest of their military operation. it's just, it's just uh, in a sense too little too late. the leader of bangladesh has form a ruling party who has been found dead in india not far from the border with bangladesh. now some report saying he had a heart attack. others suggesting there was a shooting incident with bank loot that she bought a gods. i was pa, he was asked if from office early august, i should say that's a on the story over the warranties orange and shot him, which is more on the crisis that has been growing in the background between india and bangladesh. as soon as the keel started in by the beach even before

a shade casino left, doesn't concerned about the illegal influx of people from across the border. and that is something that hasn't been happening more since the fist. the focus since jake casino fled the country. now, a lot of people who crossing the board all have a lot of people who are facing with flsa teasing bhangra. these are either from the obama need, which is share because you know, it's, but a different body would also minorities, that's essentially hindus. and that's something that he does also been very concerned about. of course, when the weakest section of the society gets targeted in any con, fee or any reason, then if naturally also includes the last chunk of minorities. and that's also what has happened in a bunker. the something that india has been very concerned about, the prime minister of india, and there is a more the has also spoken about it. once you have a trend, spite in bangladesh makes as concerned as a neighboring country. i hope

a situation that normalizes soon. 1.4000000000 indians feel concerned, and one of the safety of hindus and minorities to be insured. everyone should bring their opinions to the table so that the laws that differentiates on the basis of religions and the discriminate tree in nature do not have a place in modern society. in fact, also shake because you know, flat on the 1st of august and after the government was formed. and when you want us to quote himself in the very for speech spoke about how long beach needs to protect minorities and how that's absolutely important. so in a sense, acknowledging what was happening in the country, but who was not acknowledged that was the mean mom about it is western press. in fact, consistency, we've seen that the western presses down played the atrocities against minorities in, in bunker. these the fact reports that suggested that the,

the stories around still the minorities being the dot temples being targeted in bangladesh of falls. 5. on the contrary, on the ground, there has been several instances. there have been several narrative that have been several sound bites, old minorities weasels coming out, which suggest otherwise, it's interesting because west and media time and again tries to both free themselves as the sham of human rights. but in the d, the to the only when it suits the narrative, i see that because as a lot of talk around the us context in what has happened in both of these, the u. s. has been named even as a reason why of the prime minister of bung of the shape because he not the former prime minister bung of these have to leave. in fact, in one of the florida, one of his statements, which was least of close denied by a son,

she mentioned that the us wanted this free p check st. martin's island. they wanted to create a base on that check with tina denied that if she wouldn't have denied that she still would have been in bower. in fact, all she casino has also very openly spoken about this in the fall, and that's the us once the regime change in longer the so old school. now we've seen us the western press has been to be silent on the atrocities against not only the minorities, but again, still a political bodies such as that along the what you see because he now split up as lofty. and you can see i'm away from the in june online the ability dot com, but also across all telegram channels as well. but for now though, thanks for joining us. we'll be back in the

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