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the idea of ​​​​creating a so-called eurasian lyceum, a pedagogical space common to the eu countries, in which new technologies will be combined with the best soviet educational practices. for the west, the task was to destroy the education of post-soviet countries so that there would be no competition in human resources and brains. today our common task is to unite and integrate processes in order to recreate what was good before, to take the lyceum and make it out of... news is following the developments in
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russia abroad, stay with us. tas is authorized to declare 1984, this picture is released on the screens of the country and becomes a cult in the ussr. the film is based on the true story of alexander ogorodnik, an employee of the soviet foreign ministry, who is also a trianon spy recruited by cia agents. the traitor entered the sphere of influence through.
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the female objects of his attention were the daughter of a famous surgeon, the daughter of the secretary of the cpsu central committee, but the most important woman in his life turned out to be a recruiter from the cia, pilar suarez. today, in the year of the seventieth anniversary of the kgb, when the secrecy stamp on this high-profile case has been lifted, new, unique details for viewers of our program. in this house on krasnopresnenskaya embankment, in the early seventies, in an apartment overlooking the government house that was still under construction, lived a soviet diplomat who supplied the cia with the most important secret documents, his name was alexander ogorodnik, nicknamed trianon. ogorodnik received his code designation in colombia, where he worked as the second secretary of the embassy of the soviet union, and in his free time he speculated with cigarettes and alcohol at a gas station. having learned about the dark ones
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ogorodnik’s affairs, foreign intelligence services took him into development using the so -called honey trap, as if by chance introducing the diplomat to an employee of the colombian university pilar suarez. it was a sweet romance, but with a bitter aftertaste. the gardener was provided with piquant photographs of intimacy with his mistress. the intrigue in the country threatened with dismissal from the soviet foreign ministry in disgrace. for fear of ruining his career, he agreed to cooperate with the cia and became a spy for trianon. the gardener was taught to use a mini-camera, which was hidden in a second hand, and one of the first documents transferred to the united states was a report on soviet-chinese relations and development prospects. the state department called these materials the most important information they had ever received. already working in moscow, within
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the walls of the ministry of foreign affairs, trianon photographed 80 sheets of top secret documents every day. the spy left microfilms hidden in containers in hiding places throughout the capital. one of them was in the forest, where victory park is now located. mole in the foreign ministry they calculated it in 1977. the operation to develop the traitor was called "agronomist". there was no point in denying it; the security officers already knew about all his spy tricks, codes and hiding places, including in the apartment. there, in
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the presence of the investigator, he decided to write a confession, but there was a nuance: the gardener decided to write exclusively with his own pen. at some point, he brought his hand to his mouth and fell from his chair with foam. from the mouth, it turned out that in the cap of the pen there was a capsule with cyanide, which the americans supplied their agent. thirty-seven-year-old alexander ogorodnik died at the sklifosovsky institute, where doctors tried to resuscitate him for another two hours. later , 1,000 rubles were found in the glove compartment of the black volga trianon. this is three months' salary for a diplomat. before his death, he himself managed to admit that he had an account in an american bank. lies 315,500 dollars, the price of one’s own life is the amount for which the gardener sold his homeland. in our studio today is the legendary counterintelligence officer who developed the ogorodnik case, vladimir
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viktorovich nechaev, we are glad to welcome you, hello, as i understand it, the gardener was quite cunning. smart, very attentive, let's say, agent, yes, who paid attention to details and surrounded himself with women on all sides, well, you just gave such a complete description of this man, but everything is true, of course, well, no one calculated the proportions, but the man was indeed, first of all, he was educated, well brought up, and partly not bad either, he had such good skills by nature. fund everything else he was sometimes pleasant in communication, especially with women, courteous, always of a certain interest to them, and as for, of course, the costs to his personal, as if deep nature, behavior only later, when
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it began to spill out, either from excessive, from excessive narcissism, self-confidence, and so on, that is , these... negative qualities and traits, of course, have already begun to manifest themselves in his behavior and actions, most importantly, he began to admit, well , such completely, sometimes even not ridiculous with from the point of view of a professional and a counterintelligence officer , actions that gave rise to attracting increased attention to him from the intelligence services of the host country, in this case in colombia, it is clear that every employee of our foreign agencies, be it an embassy, ​​is responsible.
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this is a purely professional interest, in this case, after almost 50 years , we can say about this, but what is certain is if we remember the film, because we all grew up on it, and today the brilliant actors who starred in the party are also with us on the show, this is the story with the daughter of a surgeon, olga, whom he poisoned with kurara poison to this plant... it’s very bold and rude, because the whole character of this woman, behavior and in general, as far as we
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later studied her and moral and psychological portraits, everything else , of course, she was simply impossible in... it’s like even to assume that she was an accomplice, but it was possible, taking into account their relationship and his nature, after all, he had adventurism, he... could listen to broadcasts in front of her intelligence centers by radio frankfurtsky and something else, she’s a normal, smart person, and he used her in the dark, and maybe he did probe her, so what if, what if this, and what if how? well, maybe some kind of frank conversation took place, he poisoned her with this poison that evaporates, you cannot find it in the body, we found his notes, he took notes literally every
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day, and there were hints, as if signs that he made from the staple, from this portion of the poison that was given to him, which was given to him by the cia, and then he announced that this poison was allegedly his lost, but this is some kind of madness, given his accuracy, caution and fear of suddenly losing such a thing, about... in a word, she asked me to evaluate the earrings, a diamond with an emerald, but what kind of earrings are they,
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where did she get them from, you don’t know , gave oaks, excuse me for being tactless, yes, but i can’t help thinking that you don’t have much warmth for oaks, well, how can i tell you, i really don’t really like him, smart, talented, doesn’t drink, but not my heart goes out to him, the conclusion of fate... signs of any illnesses in the deceased was not detected, we can assume that before the said drug was introduced into her body, she was
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practically healthy. did you know all these details that we are discussing today, or did you just have a role? no, i didn’t know, then i have to tell you that cinema is still an interpretation, just like what happened in life, we never work because we don’t have the right, the fact is that i’m sitting with... . who are better artists than us, nothing can be done, such a profession, and i only know, since i was the director’s wife, that always, always on the set, where if we leave moscow, we were always accompanied by specialists who were a little in the crowd, a little just spectators, a little all the time, but nearby, not only that, it’s always... it’s written in the credits that consultant, there is someone else there, these are other people who are behind
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the scenes, then, when the material is ready, they decide what remains and what needs to be removed, this is delicate work, but still returning to the women’s topic, but how i understand, but the main character, she also goes through the film as pilar suarez, as i understand it, they met there at the embassy, ​​and he met her, then their relationship continued in the form of... letters, here’s one of them, look, we found it, beloved pilar, don’t be offended that i couldn’t do more waiting for you, on your birthday i was in our house, listened to our songs, read our books, i was with you then, i’m sorry, but i need to leave, the hammam closes at 9:00 pm, they are waiting for me at a friend’s house, congratulations , hugs a thousand times, july 9 , 72nd, your sasha, that is, it is for her sake that he, let’s say, for the sake of love for her, he sells homeland, or saving himself... because he was photographed with her, as you think, rather, of course, saving, i say, he always
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thought about himself, but it was also no coincidence that she appeared on his horizon in his life, she was an employee of the american-colombian cultural center, and at the same time a cia agent, plus also a business vouman, as they say now, when the recruitment had already taken place, he was promised to her, or rather to him... that they had a joint venture, a factory, everything would be fine, money the expectation is that she will have a business, and a wife, everything else, but the most interesting to get into the apartment to get into the apartment.
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cold czech beer in cans, a huge shortage in moscow in the seventies, but the gardener refuses to drink and eat, citing diet, still can’t resist and secretly tries the beer. the operatives still manage to make casts of the keys to his apartment and garage, and also inspect his volga.
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do a massage like this, well, you’ll say that it’s not sedative, rather it lulls vigilance, but it’s not physically hypnotic, and i won’t say that i have some kind of secret technique, how to bring a person into an absolutely non- irritable state, but apparently there is something inside me that allowed me to do this, that is, the main task during the massage... while you are doing the massage and he has fallen asleep, make impressions of keys to all these offices, which you are absolutely right, which means my legend was as follows: i am a young journalist, not anti-soviet, but somewhere , in general, on the edge, so i was looking for exits to the west, in addition, in the development process
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there were materials have been received indicating that... that not everything was going well with his back, so my second legend was that, well , strictly speaking, a legend for him, but in life it was actually the case that i am a former athlete, master of sports of the ussr, international class track cycling, multiple champion of the soviet union, well, it was necessary here too. creative theatrical skills, which i did not have, but i have to, i have to learn from facts, which means that the idea is sports, which means that i myself am an athlete, as i said, i took special massage courses, and if, then, he
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wants, then he can ask me to do it, well, that is, there is no percentage guarantee that he will want, yes, that is, well, how... but here we guessed, it means that when we went into the steam room a little several times, came out, he appeals to me, you know, i have back pain, you couldn’t, well, please, let’s go, the most important thing was to lull his vigilance, well, when i laid him out on the massage table, i decided to do a full massage, not a massage back, for a full massage - because this extended the time for opportunities for the work of the guys from the technical department, gradually, gradually, gradually, i feel that the muscles begin to relax, his eyes close, i
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pass the mouse to the employees of the special unit at a distance, i say: guys, it’s time, they begin their work, and i continue, naturally their own, then... the guys give me the go-ahead that everything is in order, yes you can finish your opera and zara, well, in the end everyone is satisfied, the state security committee, because the job is done, our unit, it because he finally felt better, his back felt better, and so did i, because i... fulfilled the instructions of the management, so let’s do a little advertising now, right after that another person will appear from our secret operation, which after after the gardener took poison, for 3 weeks in makeup he portrayed agent trianon, what he will tell
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left, and also, thoughts of color, turning the steering wheel to the right, humor, humor, humor on saturday on rtr. tas is authorized to declare that this series was one of the most iconic in the ussr, it was based on the real story of alexander gorodnik, a soviet foreign ministry employee who was recruited by cia agents. the spy caused great damage to the ussr with his actions, the gardener, who is also agent trianon, sent classified information to the americans, without hesitation to hand over his own. today, 40 years later, the details of this high-profile case. in the year of the seventieth anniversary of the state security committee, before leaving for advertising, we said that during the arrest of alexander gorodnik managed to drink poison from the cap of his pen,
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but in order to create the appearance that the sru agent was alive after his death, counterintelligence officer viktor pesok she will walk around with a changed appearance for another 3 weeks. let's listen to what he had to say. in this house, in this entrance lived alexander ogorodnik, 1 2 3 4 5 on the sixth or something, where the window is beautiful, in my opinion, well, i had a jacket similar to his, the same color, the same tailoring, it was lying on the table sunglasses, well, i just took them, figured them out, and one of the generals tried on these sunglasses. it means, look, he says, but he looks similar, and this is where, apparently, the idea of ​​making a double was born. so that i am constantly
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under the supervision of the americans that i was alive, healthy and unharmed, as if this so -called game had begun, they took me to the mosfilm film studio, the head of the make-up department said, well, the material is generally damp, but the material is suitable, which means they plucked my eyebrows, poor women, they raised the wings of the nose, raised the inserts and made...
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something like this somewhere, i practiced his gait, that’s all, when i was labeled as a gardener, i had to carry out communications operations with the station of the united states of america, on this pillar was caution sign children, he was a gardener who used lipstick, with this lipstick he signaled that i was ready for a secret operation. then, when my wife found this lipstick in my pocket, there was another kind of scandal, well, we had a conversation with her, so, in general, she calmed down. victor petrovich pesok joined us, he was the one who acted as a gardener for a month, hello, we are glad to welcome you, hello, andrey
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nikolaevich, hello! you are the person who entered the gardener’s apartment and discovered these various marks and traps, which were placed so that he could understand whether someone entered the apartment or not, what did it look like? the first time we entered there, we found strings and hairs on him, everything was rearranged, as if everything was marked, so he, well, could... determine whether he had entered in his absence, whether anyone had entered the apartment or not , in short, we turned around, having taken a drink, we left there, because in order not to fail the operation, the operation was very serious, well , only after a number of operational and technical measures were carried out, it was it was found out where he had a cache with his spy gadgets, all there is a code, a notepad, a fountain pen that he made...
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let's say that these are all technical gadgets and gadgets, this is 1970, some year seven, 1977, already a pen everything takes photographs, you know, 100 frames, 100 pictures could be taken, a pen can take, but by the way, now we see a man who personally detained the kuru spy. martha peterson, who was the one who filled these caches for the gardener. attention. martha peterson acted like this such a fun girl. she could have drunk too much there and fallen asleep on the steps of the embassy, ​​but in fact she is a cia employee. her
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husband died, who also worked in intelligence, i don’t remember, or vangoli or somewhere the national liberation movements there were supported by the soviet union, she came to avenge, to avenge her husband, kept in touch with the traitor, with alexander ogorodnik, she had to make a bookmark in a hiding place on the luzhnetsky bridge, there was this ampoule with poison, there was a code... a notebook, there were instructions, they detained her very gently, i was dressed in the uniform of a police officer, so that in such a dark time, so that she would not think that it was hooligans who attacked her, she swung her legs and hit someone there on the shin, criminal-police, criminal-police , continued to scream, but she was not screaming because she was in pain there, she was screaming so that if the agent was walking...
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he had to go along the new day monastery to seize this container, you mean the gardeners, yes, yes, they didn’t know that he was already dead, so she screamed: in order to warn him not to came here, anyway, then they wrote that the diplomat had bruises on his arm, his watch was broken there, but well, well, what can we do, we went a little too far, well, i went too far, they unbuttoned her blouse here under her arm here or there here, under her chest, there was a receiver with a tickle, as we say, which was listening to the radio, if some radio stations had started working in this area, her tickle would have started to vibrate already on the way, she turned to me
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with her blouse like this, unbuttoned, showing, so that i button it up, that her breasts are outward there, but they didn’t let me fasten it, our leader was sitting, his hands shaking... well, let’s invite our studio vladimir nikolaevich zaitsev, who was just detaining martha peterson, he’s in our studio today, a kgb colonel, ussr, one of ...
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that bookmark that should have been placed in the cache, when we took her red-handed, there was another capsule with poison and in the instructions, when you open this cache, there was a piece of paper right there on which it was written that there was a comrade, if you found it there, well that's it threatening, we will say a letter for those, if suddenly someone finds a cache completely by accident, and the cache looks like a stone, you’re right, let’s say it’s like a piece of asphalt.
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indicates that the object and, therefore, the corresponding sand and material from this object, which means poured, is in this package, there was also a map of the moscow metro, 40-40 bills, each worth 25 rubles, a total of 1. rub. brooch made of yellow metal with turquoise. here are photographs that prove that everything is not and the device is not all on the body, take the things, and the rest of the contents, a bag, a branch, a branch, there is another branch, so throw it into the river, i’m waiting
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for the embassy to present you and collect it, you don’t answer, what should i say, do you know each other? and it’s true that many years later she wrote to you, looking for a meeting, several, several years and two or three years ago, our television workers were in the united
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states, then they came to me, she said, we want to interview you there, we drove up, we talked to them, suddenly they told me, michael sellers sent you a letter, he was also an embassy employee. the embassy secretary, an identified cia intelligence officer, my comrades and i detained him, and in this letter he writes that he came to the cia, says that he came to the cia from ... hollywood hired him, now he has retired returned to hollywood again, now he wants to make a film with me and martha peterson about the confrontation between the kgb and the cia, and now martha peterson is there and he knows who was such a cleaner there in the eighties years there were not very pleasant for them, but martha supposedly still remembers this polite police officer who... hands on the bridge in the dark, yes, yes, well, apparently, she decided that
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i treat her very well, that’s why , well , let's see, by the way, not so long ago they also filmed martha peterson in 2019, this is what she looks like now, if you looked at me you would see a nice lady, an elderly woman who lives in retirement and goes to church, but my life wasn't normal because i lied to everyone, i became a cia officer during cold war. reached the dedicated stage. trianon and i
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never met, but i remember going alone to put a package in the forest, looking up and seeing a man standing far, far away, about two streets away. and i thought that this was trianon, waiting for his parcel to be delivered, so i stood in the bushes, tucked my legs under me and began to wait for him to come into the forest. my heart stopped when i saw him because i was afraid that he would see me sitting there that night... that night i was as close to him as i had ever been in my life. it was july 15th, that evening i left my apartment around 7. around 9:00 i parked. i climbed to the top of the bridge, turned and walked along the path to the center of the tower, where i took a package from my bag and stuck it through the window to my right. two guys grabbed my arms, i haven't been grabbed like that since i was 4 years old. i wasn’t scared, i was angry, i was kicking and screaming, i grabbed my purse at
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that moment and hit the man in the hand, we went to the lubyanka prison, and this is the place where no cia officer would want to enter from the back door. then they they started the interrogation, i said, i don’t know anything about this, after about an hour they opened the cache and began to take things out of the cache. the name became quite clear, strianno. something terrible happened, but for the safety of trianon, i told them absolutely nothing, nothing that could make it better. you know, when i rested, i didn’t understand how they found out from trianone. i will never feel relieved because i was tasked with protecting his safety. aleksanovich, you are not empty-handed today, maybe you will show that was. in that hiding place, well, we
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keep it all in the museum, as i understand it, yes, these are museum exhibits, and accordingly the main exhibit is this very stone, so to speak, a piece of asphalt, but it opens like this, like this inside there was money, instructions, jewelry, lenses that he wore, then it was a rarity, but the most important thing was this note. which vladimir nikolaevich already tried to quote here, yes, this is for those who accidentally find this bookmark, comrade, you accidentally penetrated into someone else’s secret, having picked up someone else’s packages of things that were not intended for you, keep the money and gold with you, but do not touch other things in the package so that you don’t find out too much and endanger your life and the lives of your loved ones . this is an element of threat, yes, a direct threat on the territory of the country, yes, yes, a direct
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threat on our sovereign territory, well , just batteries, these soviet ones, this is the one, this is the main one, all children's toys had such batteries, yes, these are the ones with this battery, it all actually started when it found in his apartment during an unofficial release , it was clear that there were these cassettes for pens stored there, it was a miracle. here it is that famous pen, a camera, not with poison, just a camera, it unscrews, right here at the end. a camera, finally, that object that was on martha’s body, which made it possible to record radio broadcasts and warn her that external surveillance services were working around her, looks like a holter, yes, so yes, a modern holter is similar, so the whole operation was carried out in radio silence mode, absolutely, this is several hundred people, and
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finally, this is a gas pistol that the gardener asked the americans, they sent it, so to speak, but why he needed it is unclear. these are artifacts from the ogorodnik case, yes, but the year seventy-seven became a black year for the cia embassy station, because within literally four months they lost two valuable agents - ogorodnik izmid, and anatoly fillatov, a military intelligence officer, recruited in the same way on a honey trap in algeria during a business trip, i’ll interrupt you one second, you have to explain, it seems to me to our viewers, what is this? well, a honey trap is an event that is carried out by almost all intelligence agencies, but this event, who are the performers of the honey trap, they have a different term in american intelligence, well, we often call it that, it’s a swallow and a raven, we must not forget about the male part, swallow , you know, this is a special
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purpose agent, you need to characterize him this way, because well, as it is now... let’s say we characterize this profession as a girl with a low social responsibility, this does not really apply to this category of people, this is a classic technique of the special services, chershely afam, look for chershelyam, well, in general, it feels like i’m now taking a course for a young fighter to become a committee employee, the fact is that people are all different , alexander nikolaevich and... thank you, we worked using illegal methods, they are a little different from what intelligence officers do under the guise of a diplomat, we did not have a set of the technical means that were described here, we had literally this minimal set in order to
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so as not to arouse any suspicion or questions, this is probably the advantage of just such work. we worked with people, we worked, thinking through in our heads what needed to be obtained and where this information could be obtained, this, in general, is the power of illegal intelligence, but betrayal is that very moment , probably the most serious risk for any person, who works in intelligence, because it is very difficult to prevent this, this is exactly what happened in our fate, there was another defector already in the years that followed cold war in 200 the name of alexander poteev, a traitor who told and passed on information to the americans about the work of many of our colleagues, including our married couple
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in the usa, as a result of which our activities generally stopped, it’s a pity, because, probably, under one of the speakers there is a special short-range communication device that resembles a small computer keyboard and a stylus. and here letters are typed in alphabetical order, put into syllables, into words, syllables, all this is encrypted, then the designated button is pressed, let's say play, all this goes to the american embassy, ​​you can only imagine what is happening now, if all this was already in the seventy-seventh, friends, let's now make
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once again, good afternoon, tas is authorized to state that this series was one of the most iconic in the ussr, it was founded by the head the true story of alexander ogorodnik, an employee of the soviet foreign ministry who was recruited by cia agents. 40 years after the operation and in the year of the seventieth anniversary of the kgb, we are telling. details of this secret mission, we have an interesting continuation of this whole story, because there is a person who has been looking for the grave of alexander ogorodnik for many years, and many do not even know about its existence. in 2018 , the fifa world cup was held in russia, then a delegation came to our country and went to the khovanskoye cemetery, where the gardener is buried, this. the delegation found trianon's grave and this note was left there. hi, i'm
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alejandra, alexander's daughter. i live in spain. i want to meet my family, please write a letter to this. this note was left by the illegitimate daughter of alexander ogorodnik and pilar suarez. and today, for the first time on russian television, alejandra, alejandra suarez, this is what she says. this will be my appeal to you, to help me meet with members of my family, with my relatives from russia. i have a pendant hanging here, it’s a gold ruble, it’s limited edition, on one side lenin, on the other the coat of arms, well, you can probably see this too, and some people get annoyed when i wear it, when they see lenin, so it was also very significant, your name is alejandra, it was named in father's honor? well, yes, my mother told me that, in general, i was either
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alejandro the boy or alejandro the girl.
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since my father was the secretary of the embassy in bogata, so he also participated in this event and they met there. i think it was love at first sight. i think they met every week during this particular period. and they met in 1973, then in 1974 my mother ended up in spain. and i think it was during these trips to colombia that she became pregnant.
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meeting that it was they who prepared it, because the honey trap is very often used, i have caught quite a lot of red-handed and simple arrests and secret detentions, a lot of them, even intelligence officers, they said here, but how are they training intelligence officers there, they are warned about this, anyway fall into this honey trap, it is very difficult to escape from this trap if it is being prepared, yes, thank you, i will know that people’s artist of russia aleksandrevich pashutin also played in this film, we are authorized to say, i was lucky, the thing is that i it was very pleasant, i was brought up, well, since i am a child of war, i was brought up for the exploits of intelligence officers, you know, yes, kadochnikov, pavel petrovich, with whom i had the good fortune to act in films, so for me everything that concerns perhaps suvorovite, cadet, for
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everything related to intelligence is very... close to me, very interesting, very tempting, then fokin said an interesting thing when they accepted this picture, so he told me, the committee workers were sitting, the main co-author was sitting, they had to sign the acceptance certificate, he turned to everyone like that, said, well, you can sign it, it has nothing to do with our work, that’s what i care about, the main thing is that it’s nothing, but in general it was a joy to film. and this is a wonderful movie, it will never get old. well, alejandro suarez, friends, gets in touch with us, so we see her, good afternoon, have you seen that the film that we are discussing today 40 years ago, tas is authorized to declare, is a soviet
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film about your father. i'm very glad to be here with you today, yes, i know about this television series and also you know that it came out that... that she was upset and her life was, let's say, influenced by what happened to my father, she is now old, sick, and what else can i say, because
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yes, she is a sick person, but she is in america, she is in spain, what country is she in, if it’s not a secret? yes, i know where she is, she is in spain, i i know that you want to meet your relatives.
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we can arrange tickets for you and a trip to moscow so that you can see our country with your own eyes and be able to meet your relatives, but tell me, in general, in the year of the seventieth anniversary of the state security committee, do you somehow celebrate, there are some events, or that’s it? goes quietly, everything goes quietly, unnoticeably, quietly and unnoticed, as they used to say, the fact is that there are professions...
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