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tv   Malakhov  RUSSIA1  August 30, 2024 5:30pm-6:31pm MSK

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at the meeting, the queen of marathon training was very modest. did she agree with the charges brought against her and on what points? watch all the details in the big news at 20:00. news follows the development of the main events in russia abroad. stay with us. a terrible hobby with the frightening name of coffin therapy is gaining momentum all over the country. people are buried alive and charged hundreds of thousands of rubles for it. we decided to figure out who is profiting from gullible people, driving them into a coffin, and is this really a new sect? when we saw these headlines in the media, then they simply couldn't believe their eyes: people voluntarily lie down in a coffin and pay hundreds of thousands of rubles for it. anna vershinina.
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was buried alive, and today we are meeting her in our studio, good afternoon, you were buried alive, you wanted it yourself, yes, it was my personal desire, the fact is that i was going through certain difficulties in my life and in the framework of therapy, and i decided to try, and i was married. and my husband and i were going through certain difficulties in our relationship, and you, as i understand it, lived with a tyrant who beat you, humiliated you, you are so tell me, i feel that there is some pain behind all this, but we just don’t understand yet what kind, what happened in your life that everything broke down for you, no, my husband is not a tyrant, my husband did not cause me physical pain at all, i have projects that i want to implement in my life, i...
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what processes are going on with them, so i suggested to my psychologist to go through this practice in order to free myself, there is a psychologist, it turns out, yes, of course, yes, that is, you pay the psychologist, then, as far as i know, coffin therapy is also not a cheap pleasure, from 60 thousand to 150 thousand rubles. we do not understand why a young beautiful girl needs to lie in a coffin, or or as anton accurately said. just go crazy fat, you just wanted a spectacular, beautiful photo, let's, by the way, see how it was, tomorrow i have coffin therapy, well, most likely i would like to wear this dress and it seems to me, this color suits me and it will kind of play up the white color a little in well with bed linen in the coffin there with the capes with these. this is for us
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showroom of funeral paraphernalia, where we meet with our customers who choose paraphernalia for real funerals, and also customers who go to coffin therapy, we have products on display, we have chupachups in the form of coffins, skulls, candles. anyota, you are now signing a contract that you agree to the procedure that is taking place. this is olya, who... will work with you today, with your beautiful body, and we will meet at the conversion ceremony in the funeral hall, please come without any hassles, i will explain, i am a thanat and practitioner, i'm preparing for the farewell ceremony, you can put your purse here, everything will be fine. i understand that i
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can't do it anymore, i can't, i have no strength, they don't understand me, they don't accept me, they constantly tell me that i'm some kind of crazy and somehow not like that... and it's impossible to live with me, in general, all this is rolling in, rolling in, rolling in, we are seeing off anna vladimirovna's last journey, the dear, beloved person has gone, it's time to say goodbye, close relatives can go first, anna, i knew yes... but she got to me yet a silly girl, how many paths, roads were passed, but she chose this one herself,
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wake up. i'm very good, you're good, you'll be ready, you can sit down little by little to get out, lala razmakh very emotionally watched this now, i have goosebumps, you know, i have goosebumps, how so beautiful. the girl lay down in the coffin on her own and sit smiling, i don't understand at all, for me in my head even i don't understand at all how this can be, i agree with you, because i watched it now, this is not a joke, what is
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happening now, and the people who are standing near the coffin with a smile, yeah, you know why it's monstrous, because in the next room people really bury people, bury their moms and dads.
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master, both dead and living people, how much does a coffin therapy ceremony cost? from 75,000 rubles. well, so far the highest, the high service was priced at 150,000 rubles. 150,000 rubles for putting people in a coffin, the cost is not made up of the fact that a person came there in public, undressed, conditionally lay down in the coffin, lay down and got up, this is the depth of the accompanying service, but first of all we have a large staff in line. psychologists of different levels, father vasily, you are a priest, and you regularly meet with death, you sip from people, this is how you evaluate everything that is happening, what is happening now, this is not just an imitation, this is false, this is a lie,
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you are not just taking someone else's place, you are trying to displace the true meaning from the soul, and this meeting with death is natural for us, we resurrect, you do not have a single word, not to mention about resurrection, you do not even have a normal word about death, you say that this is we all die someday, but it is useful for everyone someday, living through death and so on, and why is everyone laughing, in this video everyone is laughing, you are laughing, you are smiling, during the procedure everyone’s deep emotions emerge, i have known anna for a short time, but we were familiar with each other before the therapy, and it was not mockery, and not a smile, tenderness, yes, that she was lying beautifully in the coffin, these were simply my and true inner feelings that i was experiencing at the moment. anna, and you have achieved those goals, that’s when what you are talking about did they tell you? yes, the thing is that the day before the coffin therapy,
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my husband and i were supposed to get divorced and my husband was the one who initiated the divorce, and it wasn't easy for me to live through it, there was pain, there was resentment, and i wanted to let it go, what did you do when you got up from the coffin, you went to the registry office, well, that's it, i got divorced, it was hard for me to take that step, to let go, by the way, now i need to congratulate my ex-husband on the divorce, he's still listed as my beloved, congratulations on the divorce, i wish you a happy journey, after the coffin therapy i realized that there is no point in clinging to what has already died, so my decision is now
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made absolutely inside, without, without resentment, without claims, without any accusations, easily, freely, i move on to my new life. wait, did your husband even know that you were going to get divorced? we filed an application, we filed the application on july 23, our time...
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is going to bed, well, probably in half an hour, she called me and said,
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support me, please, i understand, you are shocked, because when they call and say such things, well, for her it's normal, she laughs, i have no other word, forgive me, this is her reaction, you see, the thing is that when i arrived, at first i had such a desire to drag her away, let's get out of here, i say,
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but for them these are toys, you know, every person has their own choice, but i'm really against putting people in a coffin, how can this be, after all, you can live well, enjoying life, in order to live well, enjoy life, you need to let go of what prevents us from moving forward, there are many practices, including coffin therapy so for example, a practice that we all know, launch a balloon, make a wish, this practice costs 25 rubles, as millions of women assure, it works, and you chose crop for 150,000, destroyed the family, your friend is in shock, still wears a black dress in mourning, and for you it's giggles-giggles, i was for preserving the family, my husband made his choice, if my wife... went to coffin therapy, without telling me, i would also think about the fact that maybe it's worth getting a divorce, listen, or
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call a professional psychologist or psychiatrist, you are talking about yourself, about yourself exclusively, and your children, when you were lying in the coffin, did you think about your children, your parents were at this procedure, i warned them about it, how did they react, what did your mother say, i explained it to my mother, and what did she answer you, it is your choice. you said it in memorized phrases, this is my truth inside, it just feels like this truth was told to you by a so-called psychologist, sasha, i just want to invite this psychologist to the studio, who, if suddenly there are some problems, advises one thing, to lie in the coffin. lyudmila firsik, we meet. and you
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give all your clients such amazing advice, you need to lie down in a coffin, have you ever been to... to a session with a psychologist, yes, what does a session consist of, a person comes, we start working with some problems, tasks, yes, and some stage goes by, for some reason a person can fall into depression, when you work with him, you try this method, another, a third and it doesn’t work, but it’s clear that he’s frozen, do you have a professional higher psychological education, i’m a psychologist-consultant with diploma, medical.
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only a psychiatrist has the right to diagnose depression, as a rule, this condition requires drug support, sometimes the selection of antidepressants takes quite a long time, moreover, not all methods are suitable for depression, we understand
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that depression is really an increased interest in death, self-destructive thoughts, if we push even more ... we will help, we will show how beautiful it is to lie in a coffin, how your relatives will pity you, i remind you that with depression we have 10% - this is suicide, the end depression, that is, what this can lead to coffin therapy, to the most tragic consequences, very often in the fantasies of my patients, really, here i will lie in a coffin, everyone will appreciate, understand, cry, now no one appreciates me, therefore, having lived through such an experience, perhaps i will want to repeat it to others.
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signs, anya is sitting, and it is very difficult for her to admit that she was wrong, any sectarian, who has long understood that he got into a very bad situation, but it is difficult for him, ashamed, and bitter to admit, honestly, that yes, he was wrong, and this requires great courage, anna, to honestly tell yourself that you and your husband were divorced, financially, as they say, divorced, well, this is pride, of course, pride also prevents you from saying objectively now that it was a mistake, pride is the mother of all. vices, now a short pause right after on air we continue to figure out why people bury themselves alive, and even pay huge amounts of money for it. agatha, hello, remove
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titanic luxury collection cognac old barrel productlar group on the elevator there was a notice written: the elevator does not lift down the stray 100 rubles. happy birthday, i don't understand anything, what
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's going on here, why did you come, what did i find with a piece of paper in your office, highness o divorce, what kind of stupid joke is this, this is not a joke, this is your new reality, it was erased from your own life, now we have nothing, no home, i have no business and no husband, so it's time to build a new one, tell me, are you seriously deciding to spin up from scratch, i want to prove that it is impossible to drown me, the stable is burning, what the hell, how is that possible, and andrey, where, where is andrey, mom, i 'll start all over again on saturday on rtr. the russia tv channel is live, it is gaining popularity all over the country, a terrible hobby, coffin therapy, people are buried alive and they charge
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hundreds of thousands of rubles for it. we decided to figure out who profits from gullible people, puts them in a coffin, and is this really a new sect? let's continue. coffin therapy in izhevsk is not an isolated case, we went to st. petersburg to see another procedure, how people voluntarily lie in a coffin. alive, attention, now you will need to choose ritual products, very beautiful, we take it, i think, yes, such a dress and a scarf, yeah, so far it is very strange, firstly, such an atmosphere, already blows some kind of anxiety, i decided for myself that the key will be when terimonimester gives a speech, for me
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this is a very important moment, to hear it addressed specifically to me, we are starting, now you will go to the refrigeration department. lyudmila, we leave you for a couple of minutes. as you are for him very many different thoughts now we will lay you in a coffin are you ready yes flowers. we take into account all your wishes, okay? yes, yes, fine.
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can i unscrew, i say, can i unscrew the lid, there is little air, today we are seeing off lyudmila on her last journey, gone, dear, beloved person, thank you for being there. thank you for everything, we will never forget you, such a procedure, i think is very useful, it reboots from start to finish, that's it. and i think
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we need to develop this, all the time it was a little uneasy, at some point, when you approach the coffin, you begin to feel some fear and really worry about the person, as if he is not there, the most difficult thing that happened, probably, was when they put me in the coffin and started closing the lid, i suddenly felt a lack of air, and it seemed to me that... is this really the end? lyudmila klokova came to our studio right after the rough therapy. welcome! you know, when i was watching this story now, i was, honestly, very scared, and i didn’t grow up in moscow, i’ve seen things like this in my lifetime, and
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also, as far as i know... that when you were lying in the coffin, there was a corpse in a bag next to you, a real corpse, not made up, so this is all happening in the morgue, how did you decide to do this, of course, and to be honest, such a long journey i i went through this, in march my grandfather died, for me it was a very difficult loss, unfortunately i could not attend the farewell, because i was very far away, in principle it was difficult that i could not come and... visit for me it was a big tragedy, when everything had already happened, that is, 9 days had passed, the thoughts did not leave me at all, i dreamed about him very often, i naturally turned to a psychologist, because i realized that i could not cope, we worked for 2 or 3 months in therapy, i began to look for alternative options myself, because i couldn't understand at all what to do and i couldn't accept the fact
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that a loved one had died, that he was gone, he was gone, i started to have some kind of panic fear of my own death, who recommended coffin therapy to you, but it so happened that no one recommended it to me, i started looking for it myself, i came across it purely by chance, well, i started studying, at some point i thought, what if this is exactly what should help me, and i made up my mind, when i made up my mind, that's it, i thought, i'll go, i 'll try, you even went to say goodbye to... your family city ​​and my family, the most important places. attention. today i want to say goodbye to the city of st. petersburg and to myself, to everything that connected me here, everything that happened here. here, in this place. "
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my husband and i were on a date for the first time, as i remember now, the first kiss, exactly the same bouquet of red roses, and these flowers as a symbol of farewell to the city, st. petersburg and farewell to the old me." and despite the joyful emotions of people, the wedding, what they are living now, for me it is no longer interesting, even to take what i here i also got married, experienced such, decided 100%,
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real, new, different, these are the feelings inside me now, looking at the celebration of other people's lives, that it is necessary to say goodbye to the old self in order to find a new self, you were at the funeral, you saw how they say goodbye to the relatives of those people who lost loved ones, so i want them to say goodbye to me, and i myself want to say goodbye to myself, to myself, like this, as i am now, opposite you is our heroine anna, right after she rose from the coffin, she... went to the registry office and got divorced, coffin therapy helped you somehow, yes, i see the ring on your hand, what did your husband say to you, he supported me, that man in the video that we saw, that's your husband, no,
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no, that's my friend's husband, where is your husband, my husband, unfortunately, was on a business trip that day, when you were lying in the morgue, there's a corpse lying next to you, that corpse has relatives, they will really cry, sob, say goodbye, didn't you think that you were putting on a circus next to a real human being? no, i'm not asking you, you thought about the relatives of this person whose body was lying next to you, do you understand how it all looked to them, when they were crying, saying goodbye, performing the funeral service, and next to them some friend of a friend comes up and says words of comfort to you. everyone understands that this is fake, you don't care about this , they don't care about these people, how can you, how can you not care about living people who have feelings, the woman who put you in the coffin, had previously experienced coffin therapy,
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ekaterina kostyleva, are we facing this? i am not a psychologist, and i do not advise lying in a coffin, and moreover, i want to say that we do not recommend, do not invite to this coffin therapy, that is, you are the owner of a funeral agency, you just said that she invited you to lie down in a coffin, no, that's not true, i explained right away that we had a very long, long conversation, not a single day, the girl came across my social networks, where she saw that i personally carried out for myself, including coffin therapy, she wrote to me: networks, we started corresponding with her, i ask what happened to you, well, that is, i wanted to get to know the person, then, we do not take everyone, i will tell you i'll tell you right away, i don't make money with coffin therapy, these specialists participated in this for me, when we had already written to each other, and that is, she
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was absolutely sure that she was ready for coffin therapy, i sent her to my psychologist, this is your psychologist, that is , after she made a decision, wait a second, that is, this is your psychologist, we don't take everyone, we don't take those people who? invite here not people who have undergone coffin therapy, but relatives of people who died as a result of your so-called procedure,
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now we saw how the girl became it's scary, she's from there, from the coffin, which is scary in itself, she said, open the lid , the girl who underwent coffin therapy, you know, it's light, i'm telling you seriously, what does light mean, you just said, that is, is there more? doctor shurov, we are waiting for victims, well, when non-professionals take on the case, it's a way to make money, i want to say about anna, she already separated from her husband, she didn't live there for some months, it's just a beautiful ending to the story, beautiful social networks, coffins, everything else, it's
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more of an information feed, you know, she has there really is no depression, there is no serious pathology, our cousin is going crazy, he is lying in a coffin, beautiful photos, maybe he has worried about his second ex, he should have... but psychotherapy is hard work, here we want a miracle, we want hypnosis, we want to lie in a coffin, without doing any work on ourselves, everything will work out, and the story of lyudmila, lyudmila went through complicated grief, she was overcome with anxiety, already thoughts about death in relation to herself against the background of her grandfather, of course, this is a long-term therapy of complicated grief, but we want johnny again, i want editing, everything is fast. this practice can
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lead to victims, if it is psychopathology, i am categorically against any psychopathology, people, people, you look at anya from the outside, but you see that she was simply ensnared by shady characters and they are pulling money out of you, look, i will tell you this, everyone, every person has a responsibility, but you understand that this woman on the right, she simply took advantage of your go... i don’t think so, she took advantage of the fact that you were experiencing grief for your grandfather, the moment to bear, when anna and i started working, she told me, they are calling me to get married, i say: "anya, go, get married, she is getting married, in the process i saw that as if they were missing something, and my husband came to me for therapy, and we tried all possible methods, normal, from technology, from practices. we tried everything, we tried everything, but
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it was clear that something was still missing and you try to, look, family psychology, i am also an adult, i come to the doctor, they start treating me, if the treatment doesn't help, i just take and go to another specialist. there may be different methods, now excuse me, i didn't remember your name, yes, i said that we and we... por in shock that you are playing with death, and
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today she came to our studio, we meet, what did you feel when you found out what your granddaughter is doing, the ground went out from under your feet, why? because everyone is calling me, my phone is red-hot, everyone sympathizes with me, everyone says, and what about your granddaughter, your granddaughter died, i say, i don't know anything, well, that's how it is, she didn't warn you when she lay down in the coffin, no, no, please forgive me for asking, and is your health all right, it just seems to me that when they call and say that their granddaughter has died, there can be irreparable consequences for the body, i'm telling you, the ground slipped out from under my feet, i didn't think that a pensioner was so active on the internet that he subscribed to my pages, honestly, why didn't you tell grandma, and how can i tell her, it will be a shock for her, why? it wasn't a shock, well, a shock, of course, but i don't
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i expected that all this would just be passed on, your granddaughter puts people in coffins for money, they climb in themselves, the youth climb in themselves, that's why they lay in the coffin, do you think this is normal, no, of course, of course, it's normal, how can young people lay in a coffin, you need to enjoy every day of your life, every life, but your granddaughter takes money for this, well , you can't. some elderly people have coffins in the garage, which they made for themselves 20 years ago, regarding the coffins that people keep while they are still alive, i'll tell you, this is ancient christian thesis, sea of ​​​​moments, remember about death, reverend sergey radonishsky, our compatriot, said these words:
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"honor the day of death, and you will never sin." that is, the meaning is this: you remember that you will die, you do not know when you will die, perhaps this night the lord will take your soul, so live, this is your day, as if it is the last day, people, how many stupid things we would not have done if we lived like this, how many mistakes we would not have made if we remembered that this day may turn out to be the last in our life. and after you found out that this was not your granddaughter's real death, did you somehow explain to her that she was wrong? well, of course. i said: katya, how can you do this like that, do it against me, well, against me, well, who will, no one listened to me, lidi alexander, you understand that this could lead to a fatal accident, your granddaughter will be imprisoned, you understand that, well, that is , for her this is a reason to say something outrageous, spectacular,
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but sooner or later, if someone dies, a criminal case will be opened against her, from which they must die, please tell me, because...
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with the death of your grandfather, yes, you coped, i know what it is to part, i have been working in the name of skrifasovsky since 2016 and perform singing of people, i see different situations, people experience it differently, often it is a very deep shock, but i know a way out, not imitation, not grimaces, forgive me, but a real living realization that everything is in god's hands, everyone has their own time, your grandfather has his time.
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macaroni and cheese, it's a saucepan of dumplings, or skomorodskaya fried potatoes with lard, i sleep, i sleep like a child, but i don't advise you to do this, a doctor you can trust 100%, you will be happy, well, i don't guarantee happiness, but your health will definitely improve. doctor myasnikov, on saturday on rtr. russia tv channel, live broadcast, is gaining momentum throughout the country, a terrible hobby, with a frightening name, coffin therapy. people are buried alive and they charge hundreds for it.
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my story is that i ran away a lot from the fear of death, there was an earthquake, when i remember directly in the body, this feeling, when i run after me. here it runs, this feeling, it still lives in me, the first stage was farewell to lena, that is, i was like a participant, this state of acceptance that your loved one has passed away, my grandmother who passed away was lying there with me, yes, a dead person, people really die, and this fact must be accepted, death is an inseparable part of our life, where we arrange a circus, no, we do not arrange a circus. and why did you decide that this is a circus? i just can’t understand, we do not conduct coffin therapy, when a deceased person lies in the next room and for a living person,
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all this happens at different times, thank god that this happens at different times, you know, and you are right, this is not a circus, this is a moral crime, this is what you think, why do you think you are right, at a certain moment we journalists should not be involved, i invite you to a group, the two of you.
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but we invited a lawyer, because in my opinion, this still smacks of breaking the law. timur, what do you see in all this? i i will first express my human opinion that the guests of the studio clearly need a psychiatrist, not a psychologist with a pseudo-education, not these organizers-businessmen, who for some reason, yes, in a state institution, this is a state institution, a cold
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room, yes, an elevator, where did the holy father remember, right? moreover, i appeal to the head of rospotrebnadzor to conduct an inspection of the correctness and possibility of providing such a service, in this case, it is rospotrebnadzor that is responsible for protecting the rights of consumers of an indefinite number citizens, he must protect people from
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this insanity. your mother-in-law thinks that you are taking revenge on people, natalia kostyleva, we meet. natalia georgievna, do i understand correctly that you are the ex-mother-in-law, yes i am the ex-mother-in-law, this is my ex-fiancée. couldn't you come to terms with what is happening? yes, of course, we are on good terms, but when i found out that she is engaged in this coffin therapy, of course, i was shocked, young people come, lie down in this coffin, i say, why do you need this, but you have a funeral home, a wonderful one, everything you you lead, the ceremony, very good reviews, but when she herself lay in the coffin, well of course, before undergoing this coffin therapy, she herself lay in the coffin, this is in the coffin, these were photos there on the internet, she posted, everyone at work told me, did your daughter-in-law die, or is she lying in a coffin, i'll take a look, but really, did they offer you, did they offer me, no,
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thank god, they didn't offer me, does the son know what mom does? of course he knows, and how old is the son? 12 years old, he helps, he knocks down coffins, he works at my work, yes, helps me, you are not afraid for your grandson, well, he is already a serious boy, so of course, he is adequate, he goes, like every child of yours, he comes to your work, but we have a sphere, mom, as he thinks, this is her work, she earns money, that is, you think, money has no smell. how does it have no smell, now he is not talking about coffin therapy, well, i am categorically against coffin therapy, good services, the child comes to work, helps, knocks together a coffin, well, let's say, but yes, this coffin is for a living person and a twelve-year-old boy is hammering him, what happens, what do you think, if he finds out what he is doing and for whom he
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is doing it, here you are telling me, a grown man, that a child is knocking down coffins. for living people i am in shock for the living, but i think that at this time, when he grows up, she will not do this, i think that after this program she will no longer have to do this coffin therapy, georgievna, and here a lot has been said about how all this resembles a new sect, don't you think so, like a sect, but she herself lay down in this coffin, that's why she went through it, probably, all right now you're describing a classic destructive sect using your example, then we recruit. clients, and why did she lie down in a coffin, because everyone lies down in a coffin to solve some of their difficult problems, maybe a calendar for funeral services, i publish a calendar every year, yes, she has a calendar, she's lying there in a cupboard with paraphernalia, why did she do it, why is she involved in this coffin, well, your version, why is it connected with her personal life, sasha, because of money, well, because
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that money is her business, she makes money on it. i can't put mine into her head, like, what 's going on in her thoughts, i just don't know that, it's just.
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sphere, i'm a mother of two children, i, i'm also a daughter, i have my own home, i have a household, i create comfort in my home, and i didn't come here to divorce my husband, but to let go, to go through it ecologically, like this word, which you, look, look, everything is according to the same scenario, divorce with gratitude, all the same according to the same scene.
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we see everything is bad, but everyone wants it fast, there is a lot of this junk on the market that promises fast, they all really follow the sect principle to get into some kind of pain, to promise a quick result, everything is clear, everything is correct, well, we have encountered another variety, you know, today we talked a lot about the fact that next to this terrible spectacle of coffin therapy, which resembles a new sect... there is real grief, grief that we recently saw during our expedition to sakhalin island. we visited a dead city that is not on any map, there was a terrible
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earthquake there 30 years ago, which took several thousand lives in 17 seconds, and the people who survived that fateful night still cannot cope with the pain of loss all these years. watch a new live broadcast expedition in a week. and here it is, please. your favorite program 60 minutes about the most important, we begin with the most important front-line news. during this week, a unit of the group of troops-center liberated orlovka, kamyshevka, nikolaevka and...

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