[000:00:27;00] european authorities continue to invent new terms, this time this term is called military schengen, what we are talking about and how, if it is finally implemented, it will affect european security, as well as about the general trend of militarization of europe, we will talk with the head delegation of the russian federation in vienna on issues of military security and arms control, konstantin gavrilov, konstantin irivich, i welcome you,

thank you for taking the time, military schengen. this is the topic they have with the old toshengen problems, there is constantly information that old checkpoints are being revived at the borders between countries, they are checking the documents of travelers, which has not happened for a long time, but here you are, what kind of statement is this? well, you see, they really have bureaucratic procedures for the movement of military equipment, even personnel, across the territory of the participating states, that is

, they allow it, but there are certain... that is, europe, nato realized that there was a smell of something fried in ukraine, and everything is being lost there, they are trying, as it were, to strengthen their borders, but we are not moving towards them, they are moving towards the borders, you know, to the east, that is, they are strengthening what they have of it. ukrainians died, not nato soldiers, and their main goal is a direct clash with russia, now they are starting to say openly that this cannot be avoided, it is beginning to strengthen, but i have very serious doubts that

they have this in any way now look at the discord going on in europe, how will they even agree on any common documents, again here the fifth question arises for them nato articles, well, what is the fifth article of the mmm of the nineties in international implementation, it guarantees that the participating states must or will be able to provide assistance to the state that was attacked. and there is such a wording there, including the armed forces, that is, including, and they can get off with money, that is, this whole umbrella of the fifth article, i carefully studied, after all, i am a lawyer, it seems to me that there are not very much there, but some - there are some snags when you can, as they say, get out of this business, of course, look,

the turks when they shot down our plane. they immediately turned to nato for invoking article 5, what did they get? you know what they got, that is, it didn’t work, the only time it worked was the terrorist attack in the first year in new york, it worked, intelligence united, airfields were used, and so on, and how the use of article 5 ended, with a kick out of afghanistan all of nato, including the americans, everything. and konstantin, if we still return to military schengen, that is, this is a kind of legal mechanism that will facilitate transfer of military equipment from one region of europe to another, now there are procedures , yes, it is necessary to unify legislation , like in schengen, that is, write general rules, procedures and so on, you can imagine how long this can

take, but here... the issue can be resolved very quickly, entirely on the battlefield, as we say, but this can be agreed upon, taking into account the fact that what is happening in europe is the right to resolutely insist on stopping any assistance. ukraine, well, you know, it seems to me that this is not very viable, konstantin, well, i i understand that the transfer of a tank, conditionally from the netherlands to poland, should go along the autobahn, just so that without borders, without any various checkpoints and so on , that’s right, yes, well, it’s the same thing in trains, they can transport you, you see how many they went, but permissions must be obtained for this. not every specific country, that is, even if it is formal, but it is required, and sometimes additional time is required; each country has its own rules, they try to do this, something common within the framework of nat and so on, but it is not always possible, therefore they are still they want to do more to unify

legislation in order to speed up the transfer process, so to speak. konstantin, well , today the kremlin commented on this statement about military schengen. and i state the fact that there is an additional tension created in the issue of security in europe, and as you can see, specifically, how this will be expressed, that is, well, a tank has been deployed, that is, the infantry is behind it, and so on and so forth, that is, the military infrastructure will be easy to move within the nato bloc, of course, both our military and the leadership must take this fact into account, imagine, they have already stated that we will form a group of three hundred thousand. at the nato summit they stated that maybe all this is being done for these purposes, that is, if they can unify, they will succeed, they will be able to quickly transfer forces and

means to the borders, this is a direct and obvious threat to the russian federation , it’s just like that, of course it won’t go unnoticed, it’s 100%. konstantin, let’s discuss this topic again, it’s clear that now, here everything speaks about this initiative, about the so-called military schengen, and these stupid barricades on, well, stupid they will now appear, on the finnish border, well, i understand that there is this closure of the checkpoint, this is some kind of hysteria , athens, which is now receiving only losses due to its anti-russian frenzy, such, although they had everything here, all sorts of preferences, people from st. petersburg went to drink wine, what do they call... the fear that we will conquer them, with what joy they they are needed for conquest, that’s what’s interesting, i’d like to ask them a question, what do you think, that’s the stage

europe, what is it based on? you see, they are being pushed to this, as they say, by your aggression, your unjustified war of aggression. in ukraine, there used to be a border with nato, now it has doubled in size, the finns alone have 1200 km , we are already taking measures, they were announced by both the president and minister shoigu, corps are being created, air defense is being strengthened, and so on and so forth, what they are closing, of course, they are causing, it ’s called shooting, shooting yourself in the foot, because look, all the shops, all the markets, all... the good enterprises that were working in cross-border trade, they close down, they go bankrupt , and this is thanks to the fact that this is how actively sannya marina did all this at the age of 4, and now, divorced, having left

politics, she works at the blair foundation, for a million pounds in london, yes now she’s relaxing, yes, she’s done well for the finns, yes, she’s not a divorcee with a million... she’s done her job in finland, and now it all seems to be moving by inertia, but this can’t go on for long, that’s absolutely certain, economics, it has always been based and dictates politics, because it’s called shooting at one’s ears to freeze, yes, especially since they have ruined at least their wood processing, because now they are buying timber from tridorga, which they received at a very high price. beneficial for us, but also for the finns, gas, gas, yes , three roads, and konstantin, this seems to concern the economy, but it is directly related

to the topic of armament and the preparation of europe for, as mr. pavel said, this is the president of the czech republic, this is a hot he sees the war phase in europe, i want to ask him with what joy he dreams that... we will come to prague again, this is why he needs it, what do you think this is about, you know, they, in fact, now, when the russian... army, as it seems to me, yes, experts talk about this, my colleagues, who are not afraid to talk in private conversations, they also say , in the winter everything will be decided in ukraine, that’s right, you stopped everything, funding has actually stopped, it will continue, but on the scale that it was, it there will be no more, all these attempts, to send shells in which no, they are also switching to 105mm, trying to switch to... it is quickly destroyed

by our long-range artillery , so they don’t have much chance, that’s why europe, realizing that it doesn’t have money, is blocking this money from them, and now even if wilders will be prime minister, that is, an authoritative country such as the netherlands will be added to the supply bans, that is, what should we do, the americans are tied up with israel, so they are trying to show something, pretending that they will do something, but what they can do it, they don’t have supplies, they sold their weapons, they have already given it to ukraine either on credit or as a lease, or lend-lease, they have no reserves , no weapons, no cartridges, nothing like onich, well, excuse me, they say, but we will buy a million shells, we will buy them somewhere , who will sell it to them, south korea, they will buy it, they will buy it, in south korea too, before... there are no longer enough shells, well, for example, from open

sources, we received 2 million shells in 8 months, we are the russian federation, our troops, they million, that is, they wished for a million, ordered it, there is money, but the european union cannot produce it, they gave it to the poles in a row, those 30% managed to be done, well, the poles, of course, got their hands warmed up, probably , that’s what we’re talking about, the time that we need, it seems to me, to use, while they walk around with deep voices and shout that they will fight in every possible way russian aggression, no one is going to attack them, so they themselves provoke

everything they can, and konstantin, well, yes, that is, the summary is that after all, europe is preparing for a big provocation, i don’t know how it is in the war, but at least it will continue to produce, try to produce weapons, shells, everything there the rest, tanks and so on, but for this you need money, but not immediately and not quickly, not immediately and not quickly, well, there is another problem here, purely economic, this week came out... a wonderful article from bloomberg, in my opinion, i emphasize this agency bloomberg, which has a very devastating article for the german industry, the petrochemical industry, a drop of 20%, in general tone, there of course there are such comments, but it seems that not everything is so bad, but in fact the columnist, he is famous in the energy markets , he says that everything, germany, europe is losing ground, and what is petrochemicals, this is... the basis for the production of weapons, well, besides everyone else, how will they

carry out this militarization, when the hole in germany’s budget is 60 billion, they are now having a whole scandal with this, in general in europe, the politicians are doing something in this direction, and look, i don’t know how they are doing it, but look, germany is now ahead of the rest, before the americans pushed it, come on, let’s live, now they are ahead the entire planet, but as you rightly noted, 60 billion hole. very people are already burghers, they are not going to additionally close this hole with taxes, additional ones that they have to pay, and germany is unlikely to agree to this, most likely there will be some kind of early elections or something like that, as i have already three or 4 months ago i said, yes, the first fall, the leaf fall continues and continues across europe , the people see everything, look, demonstrations, protests everywhere, they blow their own tune and try not to notice these protests, well

, here is the result, now they have noticed wilders, i i knew him personally, when i worked at one of the receptions in holland i met him, he is a completely normal person, that is, he is a changeable politician, but now there are all sorts of different ones coming to power, originals, so to speak, so to speak, yes, yes, i saw that, a normal person, well, holland is an authority, that is, you are right, but when investments are created , when opportunities are given, when legislation is changed, of course, the money will go to the defense industry, and the defense industry, as you know, the americans have overcome it. this is what

the germans will try to do, whether they will succeed or not, i don’t know, we need to solve our problems, which are set by the president , which are set by nato’s conditions, what we want, what we are striving for, i can’t help but ask, you offended there, it seems like, what did you do, but she herself walks around offended, she herself is offended, you know, but it gets ridiculous when at a meeting the forum is brought up, we warned you don’t do this, we have legal tools on how to prevent this, well , disinformation in war, everything was aimed at russia, all the ukrainian keynote speakers, that’s all sharpened, but the main thing is who lies better or who misinforms more? homosexuals or lesbians, men or women, how do you like it, this question was formulated quite seriously, so naturally they would say, you know, you are quietly lurking in some other rooms without translation, without signs, discuss the event not officially, we

will not participate in this disgrace, we blocked the holding of this meeting, well, of course there was hysteria, but that’s okay, it’s time for them to get used to it, they are already getting used to it little by little. well, the topic is definitely supplies, after all, you have already partially touched on this topic, but i can’t ignore it now, because for us this is primarily important, after all, opportunities, i’ve already talked about the fact that they are allegedly ready to buy these 155 mm, supplies of weapons to ukraine, their vaunted leopards and so on, there is now some kind of change there, well, except that they seem to be ready to reduce it, or nothing has changed yet. no, well, supplies in any case, you know, over these 8 months, according to what i saw on the open network, not a single the arsenal system was not delivered, it was not delivered, there was only one khaimer, i think the americans or someone else promised, that’s it, they don’t have the missile defense system, but at that time we had a hundred or

so, there, for example, we are for we put 100 tanks a month, they put 25. and this is not theirs, these are the ones that come, they come, of course, but there are no longer those volumes and quantities, they are already raking in the bottom of the barrel, for example, the greeks sell to whom well, the swiss are selling to the greeks, the greeks are selling to someone - leopard a2, a4, those in some quantitative way fall to ukraine, and then this slowly, it all burns, better than our old soviet solid t72, t6. they burn very well from our conventional means of tank destruction, carnets burn them 3 km away with torches, here is a survey by odb, today the armenian authorities, in my opinion, today they expressed dissatisfaction that we are allegedly

not delivering something to them there, how can you comment on this? by the way, i ’ve never been particularly involved in military-technical cooperation; none of us were involved in the osce, but i know that from open sources, we received information, and armenia supplied everything, equipment, everything worked, what caused the conflict, the fact that we under-delivered something, i don’t believe it much, we have always strictly complied with all obligations under transactions, not like the ukrainians and the pakistanis for 70 t-80 tanks. 10 years ago or how many years ago they took the money to deliver it, they didn’t deliver it, this has never happened to us, although i directly add alexander antolyevich, i was not directly involved in this, we simply monitor how documents are fulfilled, e.g., the ban on the supply

of small arms and light weapons there to the zones conflicts, about the transfers of light weapons, this is what we are monitoring, this is a bilateral agreement , it is passing us by, well, i think this is... these are attempts by the armenians to somehow justify something, that they are trying to change the vector, they are not cooperating with us here , we are very active, we work with our belarusian colleagues, very closely, in close connection as truly representatives of the union state , we work with the csto, the leadership, we meet, discuss, i’m pushing here, or rather we’re pushing through here at the forum: a meeting jointly with nato, the european union, odb, in order to discuss whether someone, men or women, misinforms more, or who sniffs out mines better, european security, what should we do next, how should we live, so they stubbornly

resist, and local representatives simply show no interest and come, to be honest, i’m finishing our conversation, are there any bright heads, or maybe not very bright, but some sober ones , at least, which are somehow now appreciated in europe, i mean, you probably say so, its like it’s clear that they say, well, it really is, there are people who, for example, when we perform, i receive a message on my phone, samskydi, i fully support you in english, the word, as they say, will most likely end by spring, ukraine is not will survive, it will crash, the front will crawl, and if it crawls somewhere, crawls everywhere, without money and without everything, without weapons, that is, either

there will be a riot in ukraine, or ours will go, they will definitely go on the offensive, this is what military experts say who communicate with us, well, naturally, we don’t communicate with the anglo-saxons, what should we talk about with them, these are things in themselves that they say like soviet diplomats from the seventies in washington post editorials, as we said in editorials it’s true, now they say post left-right execution, and that is, there is no freedom of creativity, thoughts, and so on, they have iron disciplines, they are just trying to insult us, the answer they get is better than what they say, they can do this freely, here are some positions to designate there's what they think it's not, no, forget it, it’s absolutely totalitarian. the anglo-saxon system with its own case law. konstantin yuryevich, thank you very much, the success of your difficult work

, we will follow the developments, all the best, see you soon, let me remind you that we spoke with the head of the russian delegation to vienna on military security and arms control, konstantin gavrilov. let's return to the situation in donbass. ukrainian formations continue to shell donets and its suburbs. there are people injured. report by pavel prokapenko. a shell that flew into a house through the roof was riddled with doors and walls of the room. the owner was in the apartment at that time, but in the corridor, as she herself says, it saved her. every day, all day long, my body just gets scared. from such grief. i pray to god, thank you that i am alive, this can all be done, we will repair it. let's put it away, this is all, this is all a trifle. a nursery school, residential high-rise buildings, under fire, a front-line village, courtyards

strewn with shrapnel, militants fired almost a hundred shells into the city. doctors at the gorlovka hospital, instead of white coats, work in khaki clothes. woman eighty in her third year of birth , she received a mine explosion injury during shelling; the patient was taken in serious condition and immediately taken to the operating room. the work of the artillery crew in the first person, we mounted a camera on the loader’s helmet, a volunteer from ufa came to donbass at the beginning of the special operation , they miss the children and moroz. when i came here from russia, they pinned their hopes on me, well , russia, they immediately gave me the call sign russian, you miss the children, if now there is such an opportunity, say hello to them all, a huge hello to the mother of your program. enemy from peaceful cities in the donetsk direction are being pushed back by heavy artillery.

in action, the geocint cannon is a large powerful caliber, the charge is guided, they are working on a real target, this target is not planned, that is, somewhere on the other side the bird was actually recorded, perhaps the movement of the enemy, fire was opened on him, you need to add enough shells, there is gunpowder in powder flasks, we are ready for any purpose, we reach any distance, the legendary brigade of the first donetsk army corps, named after the river of the same name in the capital of the republic of rikka, was formed in the first days of the militia, many truly significant operations, debaltsevo, donetsk airport, kalmius fighters are writing new pages of their glorious history today. the intensity of our work has now increased, because now we are actively supporting our troops, the enemy is snarling, but we are trying to shut him up. well, we are successful. it turns out that after work in the gym, it is, of course, at a safe distance from the firing position, there are parallel bars and a barbell,

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