tv RIK Rossiya 24 RUSSIA24 December 25, 2023 11:30pm-11:57pm MSK
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defense export grew, trying to find out issues of military-technical cooperation between russia, shared the information it had in this area, and asked to comment on it. if it was about classified information, they directly told him that this topic was closed and would not be commented on, but this did not stop sofronov. here is one of the episodes of telephone conversations with safronov, well, conditionally complex, the most.
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iskander missile, which is suspended from interceptor 31 and, accordingly, the raft like a missile and which hits the target behind, operational-tactical missile unit, which is being developed in the wake-up enterprise. here’s a conversation with the head of one of the military enterprises, you know, so i’ll write a note about the fact that negotiations are underway with pakistan on the su-35, for example on a fighter jet, but otherwise...
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we may find out, but we can definitely say that the journalist was fully aware of what was happening, we continue to study the materials, there are things that... it’s better not do, i’ll tell you this, i don’t want to be given 20 at the age of 30. in the warblers, the reporter met not only with the czech larysh, at the end of 2015, fate brought ivan safronov together with another spy, de muri voronin introduced himself as the head of a consulting company, a citizen of germany, immediately began asking questions and information.
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after the investigation was completed, the criminal case was brought to court, a high-profile trial began, followed by many media outlets, including western ones. september 5, 2022 moscow city court. said ivan safronov to 22 years in prison in a maximum security colony. we decided to meet with all the participants in this high-profile case, and first, ask the lawyers of the convicted ivan safronov. lawyers
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know their business well. your journalistic investigation, preparation of a documentary film about the circumstances of the criminal case against safronov, participation in this preparation. any persons may entail for these persons criminally liable from employees of the investigative department of the fsb of russia. i recommend that you exercise caution when working on the project due to the fact that safronov’s journalistic activities in collecting and analyzing publicly available information were regarded as high treason. and you are preparing a documentary film based on materials and information received from russian fsb officers admitted to state secrets. next on.
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voronin, a citizen of both russia and germany, is confident that he will soon be exchanged. they are preparing for exchange, yes, but when it will be, the devil knows, and vanya will be changed, and who will be changed, well, this is not for me anymore, i don’t know who is there. it seems that the only thing de muri regrets is that the recently purchased house in the moscow region no longer belongs to him. yes, yes, now, i use the state, maybe it will be useful to someone in the state. you don’t feel anything at all, you don’t see, in one country you are not to blame for this, in another country, well, the law
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is written so that you are to blame for this, there is a court that has decided that you are guilty, ahead the other is for. after meeting in pre-trial detention center with demuri voronin, our film crew went to the krasnoyarsk territory, to the colony where he is serving his sentence. a former journalist and official, ivan was waiting for us in
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the detachment, this is not a sleeping quarters, this is a day room, where we are, respectively, from the moment of getting up until lights out. this is where we go for a walk in the morning, walking yards, well, on the street, from one and a half to 3 hours, respectively , in accordance with the standards, we are there, we walk, we spend our day here, respectively, tv, radio, books, well , tv, i see you have a cable television studio here, a mirror, local, local television, yes, that is, there are not channels that you remove yourself, but some kind of selection. respectively, news programs , well, what is happening now behind bars,
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you know, yes, yes, well, plus also information that comes from letters and so on, of course, in this, there are probably some of your personal things, personal things, ivan shows our film crew books, they, of course, brighten up monotonous everyday life, yes, that is, you want to say that one of the guys reads churchill, no, why not, no, that’s very interesting, world war, gulak, interesting book, i recommend it, gulag, why - i thought that this is exactly the gulak archipelago, but this is more historical, the gulak archipelago is still more of a work of art, although it is based on real events, more on some facts, historical documents, in including secret ones, but which once were declassified, here is an interesting book, how does this topic of secrecy haunt you? uh, yes, she never attracted me , to be honest, so to speak, i was attracted to this topic, but history will put everything in its
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place, i think it’s clear, safronov remembered his colleagues, i know that the guys in the room when i was sentenced, they published a very touching appeal to me, i’ll be honest, it brought out a tear, yes, and if suddenly the guys from the merchant decide it’s possible , after all my stories, to invite me... to my work, so that i can return back to a merchant, a merchant for me is not just some kind of newspaper and not just a letter, but it is a huge part of my life, then i will be happy to return. we move to the psychologist’s office, the conversation continues, ivan recalls large european cities and shares his impressions. berlin is a well -organized city, a city that was virtually destroyed after world war ii. out of ruins they were able to create a city that, in life, is very, well,
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suitable for life in terms of comfort in in terms of some other everyday opportunities, i like this, this is why i liked it, i hope that someday i will visit there again, and prague? prague is beer, it’s beer, of course, but beer is your drug, as i understand it, yes, well, why are you so immediately addicted to the drug. it all comes down to drugs, no, no, no, your environment here is like this, prague is the charles bridge, one of the red, most beautiful buildings that i have ever seen. here is the prog city and so on, but london has never been, i'm afraid if i say that i i was in london, i’ll even find myself laughing that i worked, and told about my acquaintance with martin larysh, whom the russian special services consider a czech intelligence officer, we became friends, we worked together
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, went to play football, drank beer, that we did a lot of other things there, about this i keep telling everything about the chic house endlessly. listen, and as for this - the amount of 82,000 euros, 87,100 euros, it means, as far as i understood, as far as i understood, that every time i went abroad, every time i went abroad, the investigation believed that i was bringing with me not less than 20 thousand euros earned by criminal means, and to understand, never, not
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once, yes, i did not have such an amount, not just what was found. and even border control and so on, once i was actually inspected by border control , i had several thousand euros with me, i presented them, they simply counted them, well, not 20,000, oh my god, we are talking about money that , as the investigation established, the journalist received from larysh, demul paid you, larysh paid, larysh did not pay, demul paid, 248 dollars, yes, they tell me that i betrayed home for $248, according to. fee for the article, as for his espionage activities, the convict is skeptical about this. in my main case there are two episodes, the first is related to alleged espionage in favor of czech intelligence, the first is related to alleged espionage in favor of
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and he worked, respectively, for god's sake, the zurich university of switzerland and the bundesna christine linst for external development. safronov still believes that he was engaged in journalism, a profession he loves and misses the editorial office. i believe that my work was completely misclassified, as a result of which it was made, i don’t know, intentionally, not intentionally, but a mistake that led to imprisonment at 22 years old, yes. well, until recently this was a record time, so do you think this is an error in the investigation? this is not like an error of the investigation, i think that this is well, there are two options , yes, either this is a pre-emptive action of the investigation, or an error, well, who needs it, who needs it, who needs it, can, who needs it, can, well, regarding the fact that here, here i arrived, i would, as standard, like anyone who arrived,
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spent 14 days in quarantine, was assigned to a detachment with normal conditions of detention. that's what you were doing there, what was the daily routine, the daily routine is absolutely standard getting up at 6 am, making the beds, some, well, again there are household washes and so on, exercise, breakfast, someone who works has a divorce for work those who don’t work, therefore stay, no, unfortunately not, the reason lies in the deadline, in the deadline for ivan, you didn’t sell your homeland, you didn’t sell and i haven’t, and i don’t intend to do so in the future. let us remind you that former reporter-official ivan safronov was convicted of high treason and received 22 years
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in prison. russian intelligence services established that safronov had close ties with western intelligence services. in this program, we were able to show only a small part of the evidence that the investigation collected against ivan safronov. let us remind you that the case has only been partially declassified.
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they probably experienced a certain amount of pressure, but the only antidote to such pressure is a well-investigated criminal case business, these are examinations, interrogations, procedural actions, decisions are all balanced, competent exclusively within the framework of the criminal process, so that the general prosecutor’s office, which supervises for... neither the moscow city court, nor the supreme court, nor anyone has any questions regarding the volume of evidence and the assessment of this evidence.
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the spy story of ivan safronov seems to be over, the young man will have to spend many years behind bars for high treason, now his days are monotonous and subject to strict prison routine. it turns out. he himself deprived himself of a future, a business, high treason , espionage, well, in general, in any country, at any time they cause exactly the same understandable reaction, firstly, they do not cause or add unnecessary trust to the journalistic community... the fading beholder tv audience, it’s a shame, and secondly, well, you’re thinking about whether
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it’s worth it, whether it’s worth it once again, maybe, to pay attention to and trust such media, it’s very difficult to gain trust at the source information and it is very easy to lose it, and in the case of safronov... it turned out that he actually inherited the sources of information, his father had high authority, many people trusted him, and as a result they began to trust his son, well , keeping in mind that perhaps he is the same, well , most likely he is the same decent person as his father, but instead safronov began to trade this information.
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