tv RIK Rossiya 24 RUSSIA24 January 15, 2024 11:30pm-12:00am MSK
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[000:00:00;00] from the reorientation of people’s consciousness towards consumer values exclusively, and children are not a consumer value , so the logic is such that from the consumer’s point of view, children are not needed, and this is true, but it is necessary to change the consumer’s consciousness to something else, that’s what you mean about it you think, on the one hand yes, on the other hand there is a lot here but, in my opinion, firstly, pensions, there is an interesting story with pensions, they are all
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paid, but if you... it’s also nice to be inside this family, but with on the other hand, our time, well, to support such a family, raise it, and generally reproduce it in its light, but this is quite a costly business, not even in terms of money, although that too, but simply of your personal resources, why do you need to spend so much time on some other people, when you can spend everything on yourself, all the time, all the money. all the resources to yourself and live for your own pleasure, why in the modern world, why does a person need a family? well, in this sense , of course, you don’t have to start a family, but our heroes give completely unexpected answers to these questions, for example, that the family is such a part of the fundamental world order, and the husband and wife must form a new personality, and this is the sacrament of marriage, as it is said in the gospel, that two may be one flesh, or that the family, for example, is difficult
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the yandex market. i want to ask what is the idea of being a woman. has many children, she is so tormented by everyday life , childbirth, well, such a woman, masha, you don’t look like such a woman at all, life is easy for you or difficult, that’s how it is, well, to be honest, yes, you enjoy life or less joy it’s become more with the number of children, i don’t know at all, it would be good to ask my loved ones how much i enjoy life, how much am i in general... you’re a person joyful, oh, masha just enjoys life , like a unicorn eating a rainbow , practically, something like this, we all look and envy, in our village there is a legend that masha just walks under the weather all the time, so she’s so cheerful, which is different
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it’s impossible to explain, you need some kind of doping, it’s actually very difficult to live with children, for any person who even has one, one child, who has all this, people know this. and you will never be the same again, when you become another life, something changes, something universal a change occurs in your personality , it’s hard, but as always, when you understand, it’s like asking an artist, well, how do you paint pictures, so you’re happy, ah azov, you’re happy, looking at your ninth wave, it seems that you a very happy person, because you saw this , strange, but everything is hard, that if you don’t start doing something normal, it will all be very costly, even if you want to travel, everything will be difficult and costly, but yes, you know, actually this very question of yours, it already seems to have a chauvinist character
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such, russian, even i would say, you say, you say, and this is like , it’s not difficult, this, in fact, you understand yes, that if you, if you are a creator, but you’re not a creator, but you ’re a creator, you’re creating in any field and any. worked, you understand, you see the result for which you will kill yourself and think , yes, this is the result, it will be cool, when you think, what about a child, children are snotty, that i will even bother for them, then they are ungrateful and ugly, that's understandable
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that ungrateful in any case, but this is a matter of thinking , it’s just how consciousness works that it’s not seen as equal values, i remember very well the moment when some of the first one of... they tell you: let’s pay another 60,000 and we’ll put one thing there for you, we’ll put another air conditioner there, there’s also alloy wheels, i think, well , i’d pay 60,000, here you don’t have a car, but a living person, but you understand, consciousness is structured in such a way that it doesn’t work in that direction,
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but you already had a silver wedding, 20 years or 25, we have 20 years, we have 20 years, we it was 20 years this year, and 20 years , but he’ll get divorced, well, anyway, it’s been 20 years, it’s been 20 years, but tell me, do you, well... quarrel , well, there’s always, well, well, actually, no, of course, we quarrel every day, so... the first 3 years, probably, and dating, when everything really died down for us , i often wondered what i was doing here, what this person was doing next to me, who was wondering what you’re doing here anyway, what am i doing here, yes, we don’t know each other well, why did we get involved with this, and so on, and maybe be someone better?
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in general, there is, i should have taken my time, why is all this at all , well, now it’s too late, but no, i’m not still young, here’s the advertising, actually, on tv for free, when we decided to invite you to this program, then so to speak, some of our colleagues, they said, well, when we said that you would come with children, maybe not with your children, but there will be a lot of them, but now they have fled somewhere in the corners, they are all hiding, so some colleagues say: well somehow this is probably impossible, you understand, children, they are very they will, well, how they will run, scratch, interfere, distract, in general it will be, well , it will be difficult, it’s true, it ’s true in a sense, yes, but you see, everything worked out, that is, the conversation is working out, children somehow minded their own business , went somewhere, in principle, in principle, this is a very indicative story of how society reacts to the presence of children, oh, this is some kind of complication of life, but why i want to say now , you say, confirm
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me or refute this. make some kind of twist around this kid, she becomes such a child-centric life, but i, well, of course, i have a small family, only four children, far from you, but somehow my wife and i immediately decided that we want children, but we will kind of live the life that we consider necessary, and as for children, well, they will have to accept where to go, they are small, they will have to agree to live the way we want and in this sense... that we will, as it were, seek our own happiness, and not that here we are for your sake here, no, here we will live, try to live our happy life, and you will somehow adapt, grow up, then go for a walk, this is the right approach, i say that children are not the meaning of life, i wanted to say that this comes, in my opinion, from a very harmful idea, which came from exactly this multithusianism - then from those times when you need to have a small number of children, in which there is a lot of stuff to dump, material resources. their own time, their own mental resources, then they
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will grow up to be very cool and happy, but it turned out completely wrong, there are two ways to crush any good an undertaking, you can either destroy it completely, somehow reduce it into something shameful, bad, or, on the contrary, exalt it to a completely unusual pegestal, strangle it, drown it in chocolate in this, you know, in my opinion, this is exactly the story that happened to children. it’s just that, in fact, janusz korczak wrote that a child is exactly the same person as you, well, just a little different for now, but no one treats children as exactly the same people, treats children as something wow, just or as semi-finished products, from which as soon as there is a person, now this is partly true, let’s say, but still they seem to start rushing around with them like a decommissioned torpe, there ’s a dear there, maybe you’re hot, or maybe you
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’re cold, or maybe yes, yes you have to all the time. your children, this is what they think about your many children, it’s better to ask them, they don’t ask, tihan, they wanted to ask you, how do you feel about having many children, about the fact that you have many brothers, sisters, well, i like it, that there are a lot of children, brothers and sisters, but there is no such thing that you went and went to eat a banana, but it was already eaten, there is, the female ate it, most likely you need to be
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the first, i don’t know, if it happens, then for now i want it to be small, so why, because it’s easier, well, for now yes, only because it’s easier, okay , and in general i haven’t decided yet, imagine that some friend of yours, a drummer from your band, he decided to get married, and as a senior friend he says to you: quietly, how many children should we have with our wife, what would you advise him? i won't say much. how much is 15, 19, 25, 10, at least, and why, and why do you advise him a lot, because he needs advise a lot of children, and why, for what reasons , well, it’s like a good wish, i guess, i think, you know, like health, happiness, a lot of children, children, aren’t you afraid
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that he will find you in 15 years and curse you for it's, i don't know, i'm not thinking about it yet, okay? on the one hand, there are problems everywhere, on the other hand, it ’s really good there, but how do you teach them, for example, yes, that is, you not only need to dress, but you need to educate children, yes, when there are a lot of them, but then even more so you went to the village yes, it’s hard, learning is hard. for me this is the hardest thing, i’m a very impatient person, so if a person doesn’t understand two times, i can’t take it anymore, i need to go forge wood for at least half an hour, so we have a lot of wood, well , look what i’m writing, time has passed , just knock out for me five numbers of any kind that are convenient for you
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, it’s already gone, come on, the answer is 70, no, it’s not 70, it’s 70, okay, well done, what’s this for? is actually equal to six, that’s right, well done, and our children are all in family education, but it wasn’t always like this, in the beginning, with us we are very we spent a long time looking for the best school to which we could send our children from home, we found the very best school in moscow, a gymnasium, a private gymnasium, there were small classes, there were wonderful teachers, we got to know them personally, yes... in the elementary school, the director is the most beautiful, it seems to me that this is the best school in moscow, and the children there were like the eldest child, he finished his studies up to the fifth grade , everyone else according to their age went there too, they loved us very much there, they helped us, that is, everything was perfect, but we realized when
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this is how life has gone for us, this way of life, it contradicts our understanding. corners trying to pull it all together, and we felt that this way of life, it contradicts our certain value, when we are all together, listen, well, it’s like if we move from theory to practice, yes, well raised, raised, or rather educated children yourself, but you can check
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the history, for example, he passed tihan, how is he in history, and how old is he? 14 14 well , i definitely went through some kind of story russia passed well, russia, yes in what year russia was baptized, well, a simple question or who in what year i don’t remember no, it means who who baptized vladimir the holy baptized so in what year you don’t remember and approximately in what century at least a century well i don’t know there right now 2023 yes and we. we read from the nativity of christ zero yes well, accordingly, as when approximately i don’t remember well there 1,900 some in 1,500 some 1,200 some there in 900 exactly some or
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900 some 800 some whatever you choose this is the end 10th century early 11th well done excellent exactly 988. some good school there trained them to take these tests, maybe they would answer better, yes, of course, although their abilities are different, they learn differently, but the question is that at some point we just realized, that what is now coming to the fore, how can i say now, are other competencies a little bit for... children, and these are not some soft skills, as they say now, but it’s just that they ’re just able to live a normal life, here’s school, it takes away this ability, and we
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want them to be able to. we offer everyone for our guests to take some thing to the studio that they would take with them if they were immediately teleported to 2062, i of course understand that in this sense you took almost all of the children to the studio, this probably means something, but i, but i see some other things, so apparently, in addition to children, something else would be taken into
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the future, yes... the worldview, the approach to life itself, that’s what i’d like to let alone preserve, because that there is nothing to save, it doesn’t exist now, well, to restore it a little, not in detail, of course i’m saying not in the details of everyday life. most importantly, i want to add that, in addition to what sasha
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said, we would like our children to feel like they are part of something larger, again, than themselves, and not see and feel that they are not a separate unit , some kind of atomized one is closed to itself, and that they are part of some kind, that they... they had ancestors, that something will happen after them, that, and for this, such things, they, of course, help this task so that they feel family, not only that they can touch with their hands and approach mom and dad, but and that it was, goes back deep into time, and also why this is such an important thing that we brought with us, what sasha said about life. ancestors, i will add , since we had a thousand-year-old russia, there were
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many of us, and, reading our contemporaries, although maybe not many, well, it still doesn’t matter, in short, it seems that people knew how to live happily, and exactly, we want to find out how our ancestors achieved this under such difficult circumstances... yes, since the consumer society emerged, in our picture of the world, family, childbirth, ancestral connections with ancestors, all this began to lose its meaning. why does this burden and burden, all this unnecessary burden, burden today’s world of pleasure, the comfort of consumer freedom? although we are still burdened by loneliness, we like to read marquis’s saga about the history of the family, we love to look at noisy family feasts. to children’s games, to photographs of respectable old people, but when we return to reality in our lives, we often make different choices, change
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wives, husbands, are afraid to give birth to children, we want to be free, because we do not find sufficient our heroes have found reasons to follow the path of creating a family in the modern world and tell us about their choice and about their lives, in general, lives filled with happiness. we decided to start a tradition in our programs, to somehow finalize, to express what we say, yes, you agree, you don’t agree that we said it, we’ll vote, like for this or for two, but there are more of us, but what can we talk about family? first, is it the basis of the world and society, and one might say the universe, support it? of course, we support, we vote when we don’t there will be families, it is quite obvious that the universe will lose the meaning of existence,
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second, second, family is more important than work. and a career, because this is precisely the creative realization of a person, well, more important, but not for that reason, it was adopted not unanimously, with an amendment, with an amendment, accepted, but with an amendment, many children are a healthy psyche, help in the household, it’s not hard, but it’s quite an attractive space when it comes together, with adjustments, maybe with adjustments, it's heavy and attractive. well thank you very much, thank you, thank you, for coming, thank you friends, we are very happy to discuss this, it is important, especially
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thank you to the children, yes, they survived. it’s even possible to conduct an interview in moscow, thank you, good , thank you, this is the girl who ran into the restaurant, it was a great film, the film is very entertaining, i’m delighted, let’s re-educate this... it was so beautiful, it was delicious, it was juicy, just a sea of impressions, now i’ll show you a real paradise, very large-scale, interesting and impressive, oh, well, everyone heard, the audience applauded very often, the whole audience laughed, wash up where can i go in gurik, cool, well, i looked
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right in one breath, everything was there inside , that’s good, that’s great, i wonder if she will get better or not, i had a question about my social status, well, it’s just great, what -he still has it, holob the first is my favorite film, now there will be a new favorite film halob 2, we must be impeccable, the film is simply awesome, then we’ll have to make more
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