and we have been working in a stable situation for several months now. well, thank you very much, we can talk, we can actually ask questions for a long time, we can talk for a long time. thank you very much, alexander valentinovich. yes thanks a lot. yes thank you. let me remind you that deputy prime minister alexander novak was a guest of our studio. we are about to change the guest lineup. in the meantime , let’s talk about the situation in the economy, which we also discussed with alexander valentinovich about how things are today. now among, probably, the main topics being discussed include how to achieve all the necessary parameters for the level of gdp. right now, alexander novak was talking about the fact that based on the results of the first quarter, the mark is actually more than 5%. so, do you think that today, in the current circumstances, by the end of the year, will all the target indicators and external factors somehow affect this achievement or not? it seems to me that after all, this monetary policy, a tight monetary policy, has not yet fully manifested itself, there is an official varnish.

accordingly, it can slow down the economy, how exactly, no one knows this now, neither the central bank nor our ministers have all the respect for them, that is, this is a natural process that must manifest itself, then it will be necessary to react to it, these are the changes, or rather the expectations of changes in the tax system , and other factors that may include additional sanctions, which are now being talked about, freezing all trade, and so on and so forth, all sorts of horror stories are being drawn, that is, these are external shocks, as they are called, which can also manifest themselves, so to say... what is possible

relax and well, everything is fine with us and even if the rate there is at least 30, i would n’t do it now, because it will still have an impact, that’s how exactly it will affect, we’ll probably now ask how it will affect, hello, you noticed me , we were just in the frame, while you were being prepared, these are all sorts of our teledioon things, we’re not here revealing all our cards at once and keeping the intrigue, who will sit here next in this place, who will be the next guests, we just talked. about the change, or rather not a change, in the key rate, the decision of the central bank to 16%. they left it, they left the number, people didn’t believe it, they said plus, no, they changed their shoes, as the experts now say, by the end they were saying 16 , the bulk of them will leave there already, well, that’s how you evaluate the regulator’s decision, well, you know, in fact, all the businesses and experts were waiting plus 1% basis point, that is 17%, and there were even actions. banks received additional

liquidity, this was an accurate signal, yesterday everyone was 100% sure, but apparently, after all, discussions at the forum probably convinced the board of directors of the central bank that it was possible wait a little bit, apparently that ’s why all the main macroeconomic sessions were held here yesterday, it was an attempt to reason with the central bank, no, it’s just that when we discussed the tax session there was also...

uh, this real effective rate is reduced for the borrower in priority areas , well , sometimes the central bank even criticizes the government for this, that there is a certain inconsistency, but it seems to me that this is objective, if the government subsidized everyone, it is clear that this would be a contradiction, but there are certain priorities, by the way, the central bank also has priorities, there is a taxonomy of technological development. a taxonomy of sustainable development,

thanks to which banks, so to speak, relax the requirements for borrowers, and the central bank relaxes the requirements for banks.

now we’ll show you a picture of how the hall where the plenary session will be held is gradually filling up. let me remind you that there is not much time left before it starts. now we can see on our screens how the hall is filling up. the main theme this year is multipolar the world, where we are in it and how to build relationships, of course in the economy, relationships with our partners, now we see how gradually people are coming, let me remind you that these are the heads of departments of the largest companies. everyone will listen to the head of state, but as we remember, well, we released alexander valentinovich, and i had a lot of questions for him, well, you see, because it is necessary, and we are aware, so we continue now, you wanted to ask , i know what i wanted to ask, we know, we i have a feeling that we

we are building some kind of double-circuit system, that is, we are restructuring our economy by, as you said, here is a promising industry, here is one percent for you, all the rest are machines. there is industry, corporate, and so on, everyone is trying to explain, they will try to explain that they are the most promising, if they are not given support, then something will collapse, social problems will arise in the territories where the company is present, and this is not always like a game , as they say

publicly, these are really problems are perceived by the government and support is given,

i’ll ask a question, there is, you know, i met here with a representative of a medium-sized business, well, by chance, there was a conversation, he says, china is luring me, he says: you build a plant, no one touches you on taxes for 5 years. “will we ever see such happiness in our country or is it a fantasy? you know, it’s not a fantasy, in fact, but we have these special economic regimes, the plant is not just a coffee shop, but a serious production, this is in many countries, not only in china has, well, in principle, so to speak, even in europe there are such rules, for example, that this is the same small-medium business, they don’t touch, there , in my opinion, for 2 years, so to speak, they don’t touch the point at all, but in principle the idea is that you you invest, you pay taxes only

after you make a profit, this payment of taxes at the expense of future income , it is included, by the way, in some mechanisms such as a protection agreement to encourage capital investments with the zzpk, this is a good thing when it is impossible start taxing an object under construction until it begins to generate. you came to build a plant, yeah, that means it ’s profitable for you, yes, that means come on, let’s give it to you,

i just didn’t build anything, yes, but what will happen in 5 years, if this system, there will be a different mayor, city council there will be another, why should they give this whole thing over, it needs to be here now, alexan nikolaevich, as i understand it, never, judging by the short answer, well, that’s okay, god bless him, you said about manual control. there is a lot of talk now about what is happening here on the forum, about the fact that the current model of economic development, it has exhausted itself and the growth rate of our economy will fall, we need a minimum of 3% to maintain the position, like us and a half, according to my estimates, here are 3 of the half to maintain the position of four of this, so it turns out that - a new politics needs to be pursued, the president has set the task of developing this new policy, what are we talking about so that people understand?

processing shows amazing results that no one expected 3 years ago, and so on, this is filling, firstly, those niches that have become vacant, and secondly, this is a necessity for investment, you can’t just take these niches, you went into someone else’s apartment and live as the previous owner lived there before you, no, you need to make repairs, so to speak, change the furniture and so on, the same thing in production, by the way, today there was - tomorrow sberbank, well, one of the topics is the shortage of personnel, but there are almost 2.5

million people short of us until the age of thirty, you know what solution was found in the end by artificial intelligence, robots will work hard, robots, not humans, like in the old days in a children's soviet film, intelligence really makes the need for routine actions, workers who are busy with routine, they are already redundant, but it’s better to start with...

only the first quarter, just colleagues show the numbers, yes the current figure, here, but besides this we have such a list of internal tasks, including social ones, yes, so to speak, that we...

need to solve such and such a problem, and we will solve it at the expense of, so to speak, the budget and so on, so we need to raise taxes, here we need have a balance, because business can many of the tasks that the state, so to speak, wants to solve through redistribution through the budget and so on, private business can solve on their own, which means we need mechanisms where we leave resources to private business, counting on the fact that it will solve these problems. ..

a russian asset, directly, so we straightened it out, well, through the registration of special ones , not through international offshore companies, they own administrative districts in kaliningrad, on russky island and so on, this is, firstly, and secondly, investing abroad is risky, and putin hinted at this 15 years ago, that you will be tortured, so to speak.

we also need to separate this from one another, so to speak, and uh, of course, this export criterion is at the same time a criterion of high-tech and competitiveness of the russian economy, and specific products, and so on, well, speaking externally, by the way, about foreign markets, how in general greet russian business, what do you think? you know, they meet him and

send him off according to his mind, yes, uh, no, maybe even the other way around. and china, and turkey and a number of other countries, which work through swift, payments in dollars, if the bank works there, say, in these currencies that are toxic for us, then actually they...

once told such a story in his soviet life, he was the head of tyumen-gazprom, they had the first secretary of the regional committee, bogomyakov, who loved to come to the enterprise, then one day he

comes to the enterprise, the secretary wanted to block his way to the boss’s office, but he dismissed her, went in, and he saw that this boss was drunk, well, the next day to the regional committee bureau, expulsion from the party and so on, he says to him, well, that’s how you were.

yes, no, and it is possible to find the optimal one through a collective agreement between the trade union and the employer, so that they can get money, and at the same time not burn out at work,

as was said before, a seamless connection between the system of vocational education, vocational training , requests from employers, well, when schools actually run, well, this is career guidance from schools, but in this case, here’s one small example, a student receives a diploma upon graduation. in the diploma, especially now, now maybe let’s change the system, it says bachelor, yes, or magicians, now an engineer will appear with a specialty, or in such and such a direction, and it doesn’t matter - he studied for 4 years, five or six, and so on, but at the same time with the diploma, the graduate must confirm his qualifications as an engineer, this is called an independent assessment of qualifications by the labor market. we have a mechanism, i head the presidential council for national professional qualifications, we have been creating this system for 10 years, we need to put it together,

you just pass the exam, as they say, as student, you get straight a's, or a diploma with honors as a graduate, plus you receive a specialty where it is written that you are a specialist in such and such a field, moreover, during your studies in 5 years you can take several specialties. a programmer, a translator, so to speak, i don’t know, so to speak, to get a psychologist and so on, that’s what we need, then we have, this is another resource, a very important resource, but artificial intelligence will solve all the problems, but i propose to finish our conversation, we know that you definitely need a meeting, i didn’t understand which the moment we moved from conversation to interview, but it went well, this is the most important thing, i thought at first we had a breakdown of the idea. we won’t do that, no, no, i liked it, i’m just thinking, when will it start airing, everything’s fine, thank you very much, i’ll remind you, okay, i thought we were warming up, we also

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