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what am i said? i have to ask you because i also worked in television for a long time, but you worked in news segment, producing interviews and shows every day for decades, given your vast knowledge, i just don't understand how the media in our line of work could look at the last biden-trump debate and say, i just can't believe there 's anything wrong with him... it's not that he's sick or old or anything like that. i think this is a real opportunity to gather more data, to take a closer look at president biden's problem and his decision to seek re-election. we already have some

data, there was a debate that you just talked about mentioned and people were very surprised by his behavior and now we have the abc interview and a full transcript of it. i think the moment has come when other media. those who have interviewed the president over the past couple of years could publish full transcripts of those interviews. i think this makes sense because we will have a broader data set to evaluate. was this an isolated incident, as the white house claims, or were there previous signs of deterioration, were they obvious or were they subtle? and, if they were obvious, then why were they cut out? i think. that having this broader data set will really inform the public debate about the president's decision to continue the race, and there's quite a lot of data, i mean, i knew biden, i watched him, i was around biden for over 30 years, and i remember

his reaction in 2019 when he decided to run for president, for the fourth time, i think, i thought, this is not the guy i knew, he's completely different, and then his sister told my friend that... they're actually very upset because he has a cognitive impairment, he has some kind of neurological disease, they don't want him to run for president. i immediately reported this on fox, did you report this at the time? exactly, yes, and then i showed the recording, like look at this guy. and of course i was attacked and ignored. this was 5 years ago. i wasn't shocked by his performance, especially the debate, but the other journalists seemed to be, or they were faking it, i don't understand. like that, anyone who interviewed him two years ago may not know that anything is wrong. i think this is an opportunity to provide a broader set of data so that the public can make an independent assessment. what will this data look like? let's see what the print versions of the interview say, whether they indicate that joe biden is consistent,

focused and gives thoughtful answers to questions, or perhaps he is struggling to stay on topic. we have transcripts. it is not customary to publish video excerpts from interviews, but you can release the transcript, and i say this as the person who released the transcript of my 2020 interview with president trump . i think publishing promotes transparency so you get an overview of the interview. i think it makes sense because there are other sections in the interview that... your news organization might not consider, you know, as if in isolation, i think you have a huge responsibility when you're talking to the president of the united states, probably the nuke in chief, ask him questions that not only interest your news organization, but others as well, right? and finally, i think

the transcript allows you to supplement the edited version that you either publish or broadcast, right, because then the public can see those sections of the interview that are... much better than the transcripts, but don't worry about that . thought they posted it. i don't remember any news organization releasing a transcript of an interview with biden in the last 4 years, do you? you know i don't i remember, but i didn't actually check them

all, but what's the reason? i guess what bothers me is that everyone is acting like it's a shock. it wasn’t a shock for me, i don’t have any special knowledge, i have some, i immediately. made it public, but every time i saw him, it was very obvious that there was something wrong with this guy, how could it shock the journalists, why didn't they say it right away, but they could, i think now it does. .. makes sense, it's ultimately up to them, but i think it's a matter of transparency, i think now it 's about informing the public whether the president is fit for office and ready to be re-elected, and i think that also means complementing their work, right, they decided to make edits in the process for clarity, to save time, so they can really add to their work, i think it's important, i can't say what... not guided by, in my case i felt it was important to post the transcript to let people see

the whole work, and it's also hard to look at my your own transcript because you look at it and say, oh, i could have focused more here, or i should have continued here, or i missed this little tidbit, i should have gone into more detail here, or i shouldn't have interrupted the other person here, you see some flaws and the whole process, but it 's about the integrity of the interview, you know, when... by someone, i can't remember ever doing it again, but i wouldn't

do it now either, but a few years ago someone said something like this in an interview the weird thing is that i didn't want to continue, like i don't even know what the hell you're talking about, and i asked the editors to take it down just because it wasn't relevant to the conversation, it was weird, so whatever, i did it, i did this, but if you are interviewing someone and the interviewer seems strange to you throughout the interview? and you are trying to hide it, then perhaps you are a liar, what do you think? i think when you talk to the president of the united states, your instinct is to make him look his best, i understand that, but if there is signs, i don't know if there were, but if there are signs of ill health or he's really having difficulty answering a number of questions, that's important, isn't it, it's a news headline, for those of us who missed the report. bies, tell us what this tax investigation into hunter biden is all about. in the end, he was convicted. in

my personal opinion, for a completely ridiculous crime, illegal possession of weapons. who cares? but there are other potential crimes. tell us about the tax investigation. i would say that in there are two components to the hunter biden case. the first is a weapons charge, the second is a tax case. i always thought that tax matters were much more serious. and poses the greatest legal danger to himself and his family members. i would encourage people to just look at the indictments. and as far as i remember, it's on the first or second page. they call him a lobbyist. and this, in my opinion, is an indication that the special prosecutor is looking into whether there was a violation of the agent registration act? easier in other words, if you are working on behalf of a foreign government, you need to communicate this to the government. and this document contains information about his business with

ukraine, china and other countries, so in my opinion, the door for a new indictment remains open. i'm not saying it will happen, but to me it's definitely a sign that it's possible. so what exactly is the tax charge? this is a criminal charge of tax evasion, quite significant and. a tax case problem for any defendant is that it is based on documents and not on the testimony of witnesses. what did you confirm when you signed the documents that your accountant confirmed? and i think it's important in this case to understand that all of this happened after he got sober, right, because for the entire tax season, he was a heavy drug user, but as he told the state court. last year when the plea deal fell apart, he was on the hook for some time,

so how many alleged offenses happened during the period when he did not take drugs? and that's important because sober people have no excuse, but it just speaks to your state of mind, right? isn't this a mistake? yes, i think that any jury wants to understand a person who has gone through addiction, they sympathize with such people, because for them it is a daily challenge. and i think if you know at what point they were able to think clearly, it helps you understand their point of view of the evidence on what actually, i think, is correct because what status of these charges? i don’t follow this as closely, but in the fall, i think the case will come to court. it's interesting, it's relevant right now, and i don't think it gets talked about in detail very often when talking about what joe biden is going through right now. so there was a debate recently, people were shocked, it seems like the democratic donors are shocked, i talked to one of them who

was really shocked, he didn't know that biden's health was failing and members of congress were pushing hard for biden to concede place. to another and now he has published a letter which i believe was written by his son hunter saying i remain and hunter is reported to be in the white house he is his father's chief advisor and you are kind of asking what is this , and you say that hunter bidon is going to stand trial, yeah, it's probably better that your father is president when you're on trial, you know, i really can't, no, i'm just saying, you don't have to make those conclusions, but this important... the fact that he was presented such accusations, this is an important fact, and i think what has come to my attention is that over the last couple of years the white house has made many attempts to distance the president from his son, especially in terms of business, yes, but now apparently they really are sort of inseparable, i don't know for sure, but

did their relationship really suddenly change at that moment, or maybe it was always like this. it is not the same thing for someone to do business with someone else. of course, i honor my father, but i don’t do business with him. but i think i know for sure that he was always close to his father, always loved my father. actually, that's what i liked about him, but you know, these are completely different circumstances. so, he is in danger. and that charge potentially carries a prison sentence, right? yes, guns and taxes. right. interesting, so why do you think something important happened? it doesn't seem like such a big deal. you reported on this, but in general there is not much talk about it. i think i would say that i

was very proud to work at cbs in investigative journalism that... carried out, regardless of whether they were informants or laptop, and i went through a lot of effort to get the data from that laptop, which had a very clear chain of evidence. as i learned in my investigation, this is a mirror image of what was turned over to the fbi, and i felt it was important to understand the integrity of the data given that this laptop was described by a group of retired intelligence officials. russian fake, right, and we put a lot of effort into having one very respected group conduct a forensic examination, this group had no political leanings, was outside the establishment, a really reliable group, a great group, they did some amazing forensic work, they

concluded that nothing had been changed in the copy of the data that we had. other journalists got their data through third parties, and i think that probably tainted the data somehow, but i had absolute confidence in our data. i think our story came out at the end of '22, and you know, i have a reputation for carrying out complex investigations quickly and efficiently. it's hard to believe what it took me 2 years to confirm. the authenticity of this data, what does this mean? i think with all due respect to my former employer, i think there was an opportunity to confirm this story earlier, i think that's all i can say, well i verified the data on the first day because there were emails from me and no one knew that i knew hunter biden, so i

knew it was true, no one would ever do it, besides, i lived next to hunter, so i... i just think that i have a reputation for being able to quickly and efficiently get through complex investigations, yeah, but this story took, took 2 years, and i'm glad that's the case. because i think that really changed the discussion, of course, i'm curious, did you feel, did you feel

like the company didn't want you to do this? you know, i've always tried to be respectful of my former employers, and i told congress that there were tensions with the biden investigation, especially when i kind of addressed their attention on president biden, they didn't like it. "sorry, you don't need to, i 'm not even talking about myself specifically, it's so bad it's just funny because it's not a reporter's job to cover up for a politician, right, i'm just clarifying, has it ever occurred to you how small you've become our world, you work for 30 years or more, to more, in fact, i know how long, but i'm not going to long, and you become..." you know, perhaps the most famous author of investigative journalism in the united states, i'm not in it i'm sure, but i would say that it's true, or sure, you're in the top two or three, definitely, but you'd

think every news organization would say, oh my god, katherine harrich is available, let's hire her, but you're a freelance journalist, that's just amazing, but it was my personal choice, i know, yes, but really. nbc in a normal world would have said hey, we're not paying $3 million a year for the work you do, but they didn't say isn't that weird, i think it's an indication of how much the market has changed, yeah i think this is the biggest indicator for me, i didn't really understand how much change has happened in the last 4 and a half years, when you start looking at the numbers, you see that these large corporate organizations are essentially no longer custodians. information, yes, there is a lot more of it on other platforms, and i, i truly believe in my heart that there is a place for

investigative journalism, people are just hungry for it, and one investigation that we did, it has about 3 million views, it good, healthy number. our next project will focus on immigration and borders. and i don't want to give everything away, but we have a lot of good data on how the department of homeland security, violating federal regulations on a daily basis , poses, i think, a significant security threat to many american citizens, and i think it really deserves a thorough look investigation, and this is a story that i can actually tell now, although it was difficult to tell before, i can't even get... and i was trying to get exact numbers on how many people came to our country illegally for the last 4 years, the figure fluctuates from 5 to 30

million. all these estimates seem to be reliable and i have no idea which one is correct, but why can’t we get the real figure at least here? i think the simple answer might be, i don't know, but my assessment is the volume that we're talking about, i think it's the volume. so, but going back to your point, i don't think there's a lot of transparency on this issue, i'm hoping to bring a little more transparency to it. so, in your opinion, this is a very important story, on 100%. yes, and it's not just about what issues american voters consider to be the main issues in this election cycle. i ask myself. i have information, i think that federal laws, federal rules at the border are being violated daily, i need to find out if this is really true, if this is really true, then why is this

true, who is really losing in this equation, will the country less secure or not, i don’t know the answers yet, but these are quite natural questions, and how can our bankrupt country pay for all these services, i do there are many questions, i absolutely agree, but you are focused. based on your investigation, are you close to the answer? i think, judging by our reporting, everything points to this, it seems that this is exactly the case, so my question is: you know, who was punished, who was suspended, who was fired, who was demoted and... i believe the answer is no one but those who report the problem. is it true? don't make me

reveal anything like that, i want to stop you. right now, i'm in shock, i mean, you know, but i think that's the story you want to see, right, i just think that news consumers in this country have always encouraged me that they really understand the idea of ​​accountability, they want to see it, they expect it, they demand it, when you do it, i think it's can be very nice. “you know, shedding light, it sounds old fashioned, but i want to shed light on an issue that is truly worthy of it and needs to be illuminated, it’s strange to wake up and see how things you know are under threat, did you ever think that freedom of speech in usa will be in question, no, i couldn’t imagine the situation i’m in now, that’s for sure, well, we’re rooting for you,

we’re rooting for you, thank you, katherine “ thank you very much, i’m very glad to see you, you’ve got me in the lights, pyro, self-written magic ink, you’ll get it, you’re the main thing, van, hurry up, so give me a horse, mechanically, in those ancient times, when there were no gadgets, people used magic, but beat yourself on the head, you have a nickname, where i need to go, that’s what my name is, because i’m not taking you where you are a fool wants to go where he needs to go, he doesn’t need a pen, he who has fire in his pocket, what started, fire, i can’t live without traveling. soon,

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