the ban on the ukrainian orthodox church, for which the rada voted the day before, was commented on in an interview with our tv channel by the rector of the church of the life-giving trinity on sparrow hills, archpriest andrei novikov. we will discuss the actual ban on the canonical orthodox church in ukraine, the verkhovna rada has made the corresponding decision. we will discuss this topic with the rector of the church of the life-giving trinity on sparrow hills , archpriest andrei novikov. he is in touch with the studio, father andrei. hello. hello. tell me, how do you rate this? solution?

the orthodox church, although in their russophobia, it would probably be difficult for anyone to surpass them, but as we see, now the nazis in ukraine are superior to their teachers, and of course, the consequences will be the most severe, millions of believers, according to this law, must be left without the true orthodox church, without its sacraments, without prayers, and the church in this situation, with...

full implementation of this law, will have to go, there is such a church term, into the catacombs, yes, in the image of the first christians of the roman era, into an underground existence, already now the security agencies of ukraine have announced that investigative actions are being carried out against 100 clergymen of the canonical ukrainian orthodox church of the moscow patriarchate, criminal cases have been initiated. the majority of them, in my opinion, 26, have already been convicted, and after the adoption of this law, the number of convicted, the number of persecuted, thrown into prison, increases much, much more, i think that it will no longer be counted in hundreds, but in thousands. father andrey, and what do you think, could this lead to a heated conflict in literally a clash among believers or believers and security forces? i think it's practically. possible, just as,

for example, you know, demonstrations were impossible in smolensk occupied by the nazis in 1943, the repressive machine has all the means to suppress any discontent, it will simply physically destroy any person who even thinks about contacting someone about organizing a protest, the only thing is that a hot conflict is already underway, and this is our special military operation,

sword, russian army, there is no other way. father andrey, and how should priests behave who want to preserve their parishes now, what would you advise them? well, they will have to serve secretly, serve in apartments, serve underground, as it was in roman times, as it was in history, in those states where the church was persecuted, and simply wait for the end of this insane power, this is not the last time, this is not yet... the antichrist, and the end of this power will definitely come, but at the same time, i would like to draw your attention to the fact that we are dealing with a broader phenomenon, ukraine is definitely backed by the collective west and the united states, and we saw that simultaneously, on the same day, in estonia, another step was taken to separate the estonian orthodox church from the moscow patriarchate, in the czech republic, the parliamentary committee on security demanded that the russian orthodox church and even the local

autocephalous orthodox church of the czech lands and slovakia, that is, any orthodox church, be placed under state control, an investigation be conducted for disloyalty to the state and... the spread of russia's influence, and the czech foreign minister said that he does not consider the russian orthodox church a church, and its representatives clergy, this is a synchronized attack by the west on us, on our faith, on our existence, on our right to be faithful to our history, our faith, our culture, our identity. do you think this schism will be overcome, what should be done with those priests who joined the schism. such priests should be defrocked, excommunicated from the church, and those who repent send to distant monasteries for repentance, as it has always been in russia, and the schism will of course be overcome where the russian army is,

where the russian army is, there will be canonical orthodoxy, in fact, we are entering a situation where the concept of the classical modern era, the concept of the secular state, is completely destroyed by the very same... western countries that created it, they no longer need it, it does not work for their benefit, so they are destroying it, well, we have no reason to cling to it, it is shameful, so to speak, to speak out various such, you know, streamlined terms, secular, we are a state that stands for the truth, for the truth, we are a christian katykhon. in the world, and where our influence, where our weapons are, there will be the truth of orthodoxy, andrey, when you say that believers will actually have to go underground, tell me, is it possible to use modern technologies here, to conduct services, for example, online? i think

it will be so, but we will have to be very careful with these technologies, not to abuse them, because online it is impossible to perform sacraments, it is impossible online. it is impossible to confess online, it is impossible to be baptized, of course, it is necessary to try to use physical presence as much as possible and, in addition, do not forget that everything that operates online is created by man and is also definitely hacked by man, so there is a high probability that the channels through which the broadcast will be conducted will be hacked by the ukrainian special services, well, not by themselves, of course, but by the cia, which will give... keys to hack such channels. father andrey, do you communicate now with the clergy who remain in ukraine, what do they say about how much pressure is currently felt from the authorities and schismatics on the church? well, this is extremely strong pressure, you understand, the thing

is that they are putting pressure on the bishops, the same schismatic bishops in ukraine, after the infamous council in feofaniya, at which it was decided not to mention the name of the moscow patriarch, which is the canonical duty of any bishop of the russian orthodox church, any part of it, and therefore even measures are being taken to prohibit the services of those priests who remain faithful in their actions to the russian orthodox church , pressure is being exerted directly from within the church, a very difficult situation for them, a very difficult situation for those bishops, metropolitans, bishops who remain faithful to the church, and we have seen that by... confessor of orthodoxy metropolitan of cherkassy, ​​a criminal case against metropolitan of zaporozhye luka, as i have already said, there are convicted clergymen,

they are already numbered in the dozens, and more will come hundreds, a very extremely difficult situation, for this every day there is danger, every day there is a possibility of arrest, every day... now no statistics are kept that are true, and it is impossible to believe ukrainian statistics, it is a lie from the very beginning, but from my memory, i think that in fact little has changed, because again the number of churches transferred to schismatics

does not mean anything, just captured churches that stand empty, but i also think that somewhere more than 2/3 of people who associate themselves with orthodoxy are not schismatics, but parishioners... and what will happen to the relics, how do you consider church icons of power, what will the schismatics do with them and are there any options for salvation? governing russia on its historical lands. father andrey, thank you for your comments, thank you for taking part in

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