television. >> (music). >> hi, i'm - welcome to the to san francisco in-person a roundtable person about important topics we're to be talking about maturing and aging retirement life really, really trying to speak with you all did i. something that i'm trying to plan for and thinking about every year as i'm working everyday and hoping not to work

anymore but go around and introduce yourselves and then let us know if you are retired right now or like what kind of career and starting with crystal clear i'm crystal clear a fourth generation from california and in san francisco. identify himself is pronounced. one way san francisco i taught school educational system in the school indict and educated in san francisco and in 37 years and went to high school and married to my wife sidney and marveled thirty years and several times because we didn't have the marriage take because of will you get and in cameron house i

live currently in sunny does the fogist part of of the city and retired since officially retired from the school district in 2005 and done a lot of community work with the lgbtq+ and focusing on as i get older in intergenerational work trying to create a stronger community corporatively. >> did you like working with education. >> in the 7th grade had an incredible teacher mrs. burke and from then on i know i was going to be a teacher in 7th grade i became a teacher so no

time off. >> okay. dave. >> renderings david today is any one year anniversary of being retired. >> so last september when i retired after serving three presbyterian churches in san francisco and covenant presbyterian and the last one presbyterian church. i originally from colorado and raised our kids in denver but came to san francisco in 2020 went to the seminar to be a presbyterian minister and done that for the last years. >> before i came to california. >> before i was a baptist minister. >>. thank you. >> jimmy how about yourself. >> i'm jimmy retired in the

department of public health in san francisco and served as is deputy director of health and for a sponsor for hiv for all in my work as deputy i retired in 2008, on a friday and monday started at nonprofit another executive director and for four years and came then officially retired retired in 2011, i served obtain community board's and active through retired and they don't seem healthy to me in a lot of ways i knew i wanted to be healthy i'm a first generation no my family and over 50 years in san francisco and

went to la for 5 years. >> (laughter.) >> also. thank you. >> and linda how about yourself. >> good morning linda parker for l t b the founder i have been in california since 1981 came out for graduate school and in for 25 years since i got married i don't consider myself required i created my own business in 2006 and i do leadership development and consulting. and you know, i'm described as a trip threat i worked for apple computer as an aide and then google when i was in any 40s. which made me a - only two powers of people and

google were reporting american and some small percentage anyway, i was 0 unicorn and now i'm still doing my own business at my open pace doing the things i enjoy i serve on a few board's i'll claim as served on a number of board of supervisors over the years because i enjoy working with nonprofit organizations like goodwill and spent a lot of time at goodwill in the center and tried to be an point with my purchase serving admit people and helping people do what necessary, do and my son is 21 so i learn a lot from him and on

social media podium and now i use them god help me. you know, but somewhat row like it or not but have a son that age or child you feel this way too it keeps you current. that's me. >> thank you. >> so let's just start with an easy question. i think that you know, for me think whatever it is odd when i take a vacation i came back how will i get ready to retire to do what i want to do? i was wondering for you all at what age or who moment you start thinking about whether it is finance or health or like things you do when - that what time or age or moment you have when you think about retirement? >> anyone?

>> i think for me it was a natural being in education every summer was a retirement and over september was a renewal so that i had the great principle and pleasure and not teaching summer school but enjoying life you know, progressives and my daughter is an education a psychiatrist and called the golden handcuffs because you have this job you work for a certain amount of time physically and emotional and supervisorial and thin you can relax for a couple of months like a retirement and come back to say that gave me a lot of practice at taking time off and doing what i needed to do recharging and coming back. >> so you know, i have a

different view i signaled about retirement i don't think i ever thought i'd retire someone tell me a long time ago livestock unfolds in three stages and lastly, to safety officer. i coming from school but being a lifetime learner transition and earn bucks and make money and help my family be comfortable i moved into service early in any career service is the work i do and it is you know, whether or not i don't get paid or not a reflection of change in my values how i want to show up in the world and serve and . >> huh? and if someone wants to pay me that's okay. >> and later on you're working in a field and i came early my

family is multi generational i had a wonderful cook was the first black women journalist and worked for the boys and graduated for the university of mini so the so i sat with her and spent the weekend with her and she was in her 90s and passed in when she was 98 she taught me about her life was that meant the impact of that that was her legacy i thought about what will be the legacy so put me on the path of this pretty early. >> for me, i had (unintelligible). >> for my cousin and brother and sister work and came to and

went to work (microphone distorted) always had a formation about work i thought about retirement seriously in 2008, and was in financial health eda is came out with that idea you were from the hi paid will give you three years in aid and three years of service i decided to retire in 2008, as of the offer but more - because maybe three years older gave more service i retired based on that fact and also knew that um, and public health was hard the next a place was the health direct i knew that was not going to happen.

>> as is i moved into my 70s a couple of years ago my wife of 50 years have you thought about retiring yet? i said no, i'm not ready to retire i feel like i have something to say still. writing a sermon every week for example, and also i don't know if i can afford so i'll keep on working until i can't anymore and one day i had a oh, huh? moment maybe i said what i had to say and consider setting that aside and not making that my main thing but also, we realized that in the time we left in my live things we wanted to do travel and seeing friends in different places around the

world we have done a little bit before but want to do much more and shift gears and do those kinds of things. and so about a year about two years ago i started thinking more and more what retirement will look like and being at a financial thing the pension, benefits from my presbyterian church and social security and things like that and doing in on figuring out that and i think we can doe this and however like two weeks after i retired i missed writing so i upgrade back to writing but also realized that i enjoyed doing what was was doing and right now that is temporary for the

pastors so kind like the flexibility of this going to colorado in a couple of weeks and going to go to new zealand in the winter that freedom makes a big difference. >> i want to ask you know, obviously we're sort of after post covid when that happened it go obviously did that give you an inch to do more and maybe my health i need to slow down and not do as much. did covid slow down i know for my mom she was like more fearless she's like i don't want to be occupied up and made many light bulb moment my life is shorter now and i should

do more. >> well covid wasn't have that made me crazy i'm anyone that likes traffic and get out of country every year and i literally community-based nuts so the ability to traffic but i started taking long walks in the park near where i live in the bayview and kicking with nature and took up mediation the two things that saved me confined you know, would have been too much for me. >> i'm glad that is something that is very popular. >> yes. >> covid for me was a really looking at what had is important in our lives and any mother um,

was one hundred and 4 i - she was one of the pioneers and had to maintain her life she was independent until she was one hundred in check up walking around and doing her grocery shopping we had to visit her and help her out with groceries that made us less carefully we had to go out and no choice but started delivering my partner and i started delivering totes seniors and a lot of people were more senior than we were we of the they needed the help and actually, we needed to do that and the fact we are very careful and therefore, be it resolved

never caught covid 19 neither one of us did but able to take care of other folks we didn't stop but my mom showed us that you know, she was fierce in her on ways and lived life show kept going. >> for me, i run. so i had an opportunity to run in my neighborhood in outer mission and st. mary's park i run in that area and go run look the marina and got me out six the house and i got to know people had the connection i run a few times a week and run 7 mile and so that for me is the way i

dealt with covid by having been a health professional and working with hiv and aids i saw a lot of loss families destroyed in some cases so some way that is a - i was able to recognize what did i need to be helpful for other folks and take care of me when it comas to helping other folks i'm helping them and it is not about me by about them. >> i like what you say. >> i like what you say about getting out and running i hate running though (laughter) but that's one of the things i realized and now in retirement is i really got sedentary in covid and sat around a lot and today, i'm finding that hard to maturity myself to get out and

do stuff let's take a walk well. okay. but when i do it i'm glad but having to unlearn that as well as that sedentary lifestyle. >> but the health thing identifying is very important and we have to pay attention to that no doubt about. >> that taser into a what i was going to say one of my coping thing is music i started a church, i went to church and was the one that was singing that day she sank we can be kind. and so i started a play list called we can be kind so the music is note just the music i sing but dance also i have but

with 24 plays listed one is room makes sense and resistance and one is sexy whatever. but anyway, i find i love to sing and caps to the music and reminds me when i was a teenager in the song and now, whatever we connect to my heart and my memories and the words of the music i think is good because i understand people with dementia can play and song and will remember the words; right? and the mules memory of the brain i think the music and the rediscovering music and reclaiming it in my life was huge and got me off the couple i didn't care before if people were looking at me before. (laughter).

>> that's serious. >> one of the things we need the i'm part of the seniors drumming group i am we started zoom in covid but you can't drum during covid you're off and nobody can hear you, we met in the park and 10 feet away from each other and 20 people drumming that is the connection with people the we're far away and keep a distance really kept us going and in a year we began drumming in the park that was really, really wonderful and kept us sane actually. >> that is interesting that like i guess you know, we're hearing stories that made you help more people during the time like you know, downtime versus like i guess the notion that we

need to help you know, the older people during covid and actually you stepped out and helped other people and you're like not about me but everything else and it is good you do that. >> one of the most important things health wise to be with people. loneliness will be continue to be a really, really bad thing for our society and in america. more and more people are living by themselves without connections to other people and we need to find ways to get out of that kind of thinking and with people despite our concerns about infection disease the downsize to that to that. >> and a - and the - about

$24 million a year to nonprofits in san francisco and population is interested in serving older adults we have articulated that population and one of the reasons you said a was welcomeness and isolation and how to help others and providing nonprofit with the resources and some of the nonprofit we funds are doing emergency generational work it is critical for seniors to have interrelationships to the community and for folks to get resources available from us and really have to say we have to sort of push back against the devices (laughter). >> that you know, caterer us to kind of existence i'm not

sure wasn't the solutions are to that. i get sucked into that really easily so how we can do the community in spite of our devices or incorporate them into our lives. >> i want to build on what you said the community because they need to be together is critical and i was conscious of kind of being with my tribe you know, whether that was with my church group or my community groups you know, that i am with. and you know, for better or worse helping each other we are all in the together for the families i was conscious of you know, keeping our eye on that on my family and you know, my sister

one of my sisters has not come through as well, not coming out of the house and she's literally angled 10 years in the last two years of the pandemic. and so i'm conscious of everyone's mental health and the need you call people randomly three years but i pick up the phone and call them now to reconnect and check own all of that i think the conscious rebuilding and row claiming of our community and i know i refer to them as my tribe for whatever reason it is critical coming. >> i'm curious like do you all have subcontractors with other people regularly lying share whether that is personal stories or advise or more keeping with

people. >> absolutely most of my work is gotten ordinarily working professionally has been intergenerational work it is important if i'm aging physically can't do things i mean, we have a daughter that is thirty and as many young people are doing but all my political work and community work is intergenerational and a conscious effort to do that and we learn from each other and especially for e pi young folks need to see they're future can be positive and as elders in the community we're not we are people see continuous and support and advise and listen and intergenerational work it is

building community to cross over and help each other as elders and thanks or things to share as young people ideas and we teach all the technology things i don't know i'm asking how do you do this? so really, really crucial for our survival. >> which was the google a woman over 40 in 2007 i started there and i was on used to be the younger permanent; right? but there was the early and the group. people over 40 so i had to learn really quickly a crash course in how to stand back and um, be okay with a

tower-year-old telling me what to do; right? and i'll say in general you know, please don't tell me what to do i've been around long enough to know what to do but you know, whatever when we think they came out of schools i can learn something in the folks the i thought i hired me for my experience and worrisome and in google nobody looked like me but since then wonderful to have done the work, work in cross generations and having a 21-year-old son was way a baby boermz but now i'm focused own young people the the other day there was a young

african-american woman at another table so fm was getting up to go and this older woman i had a friendship with (laughter) limiting go over they're just to get to know her i feel i - we need each other; right? i know i need the i don't want to put words in your mouth full energy and so i thinking about my son. >> (laughter.) >> yeah and yeah. so, anyway that is really i cherish and a cherish kind of butt the might about elders and you know, one ev my son is surprised i say yeah on my play list and technology i'm always training people in my age group whatever

the thing is to get more experience i like modern elders. >> one of the things i think i like about being a senior now is that i so we have worrisome a life of experiences and i thought about what those experiences mean not just experienced it took a lot about what any life is and find myself writing my memory jars but given all that i realize i have a lot to learn and to have an attitude of continually learn and not just sort of sitting back and saying i can get but for must new but having go curiosity to learn and the challenging assumes that you know,