>> to order. so, can we have a roll call, please? >> president paulson, here. rivera, here. ajami, here. maxwell, here. stacy, here. you have a quorum. >> i like to announce thament that the san francisco public utilities commission owns and steward of--descendants of the federally recognized mission san hoe say band of alameda county. the sfpuc recognizes that every citizen residing within the greater bay area has and toibs

to benefit from the use and occupation of the oholone tribes aboriginal lands before and after the san francisco public utility commission founding in 1933. it is vitally important we recognize the history of the tribal lands which we reside but acknowledge and honor establishing a working partnership with the sfpuc and productive and flourishing members within san francisco bay area today. okay, so first item, >> item 3, approval of minutes november 28, 2023. >> we will open to public comment? >> any members present to provide comment on the minutes? seeing none. >> seeing none, can i get a motion and second to approve

the minutes of november 28? >> i'll second. >> we have roll call, please? >> paulson, aye. rivera, aye. maxwell, aye. ajami, aye. stacy, aye. you have 5 ayes. >> item 4 is general public comment and madam secretary, can you open that, please? >> members of the public to provide comment on items within the commission jurisdiction and not on today's agenda. please line up on the side and-- mr. decosta. >> my name is francisco decosta and as you know, at one time we could give public comment from home and y'all could this commission could, but the board

of supervisors is not doing it because a few people are saying bad words and stuff like that, but y'all could, but y'all don't do it, so it is a hardship for us to come here to give public comment for mesely two minutes. let me remind y'all that if you take the sewer system improvement project, $6 billion project now heading toward $12 billion, you commissioners should ask how has the community benefited from all this money? i'm going to request a quarterly, if not twice a year a report on the biosolids and

digisters. this was promised to us you do a lot of things and don't pay attention chronologically to the constituents, to the taxpayers and in district 10, a lot of people are suffering, especially the children and the women. and your community benefits that you all agreed to, hasn't touched those who need it most. thank you very much. >> thanks for your comments. any other people to the microphone? okay, seeing none, item 5, please. >> item 5 is citizen advisory

committee annual report. >> good afternoon president paulson, commissioners. thank you president paulson for the invitation to speak about the work cac has bun over the last year. my name is [indiscernible] garcia, serve as the cac chair for the past two years and at the district 9 representative since 2018. i like to [indiscernible] the members rkss the topics the committee engaged and what we look forward working on next year. our committee as many other public bodies had a rocky start as we transitioned to fully in person meetings but we found our stride and all 17 seats on our have appointees. thank you to the board of supervisors, board president and mayor for filling the seats. with 17 members we experience some degree of churn which

bring challenges [indiscernible] and community leaders and some who served on the cac many years. i want to thank all you for taking--speaking with the cac this past year. and i all members were very appreciative of you take thg time to meet with us to hear about our interest to engage on topics we hear about and hear about topics you care about as well. these are the-among the highlights of the year and show the members our work with commission can be collaborative and fruitful. additionally, among other highlights were joint meeting with the southeast commission facility which is wonderful to have me at that facility and engage with that community as well and we also had the opportunity to meet with leadership which is a great value to the cac.

turning to priority for coming year, the top priorities center on capital program implementation, race and customer service, workforce retention and hiring. derive from interest shared from subcommittees and look forward working with you and staff. thank you for all the work you have done on customer assistance program. we have taken that to heart and know rate payers and customers have as well. [indiscernible] without staff from the presenters that come to speak during the regular meetings to engage with members as well as hosting meetings with members outside the regular meetings. there is show us that you care about sharing information, you want to work collaboratively and we can always be

[indiscernible] i want to shout out and thank staff who supports us. lastly, i want to express gratitude to cac members and leadership. vice chair [indiscernible] their dedication insuring our meetings occurring regularly, and members are supporting and rate payers are heard. that concludes my report and happy to answer any questions. >> thank you mr. garcia for your thorough report. i am one of the commissioners who actually had also attended one of your meetings and have to admit, it was just like in some ways public comment on steroids with people that

actually do this and sit on the committee and it was a very fruitful--a hour and very clear this committee under your leadership and other leaders is very engaged in the role this committee has so i want to personally thank you for taking the charge on among the other things you are doing and spending this much attention so i really believe it. i do, just going to say for the record that, each of your leaders had very poignant and concerned questions about whatever area of community or policy that they particularly cared about and it was--i had a very good exchange. i personally did. again, thank you. commissioner stacy. >> thank you. i also wanted to say thank you to the citizens advisory committee for all the work you did. i was there last month and sorry i missed you personally, but it was really impressive committee and very thoughtful questions as president paulson

mentioned, and it is a lot of hard work when you do research on the issues and make decisions about what recommendations you make to the commission and what issues you focus on, so i just really wanted to say thank you and how much i appreciated coming to your meeting and talk with everyone. people had good ideas and good questions and i think i have a few follow up issues that i'll work on and hopefully circle back with you or one of the puc staff to provide the information that was requested, but thank you for all of your work. >> thank you. my apologies for traveling last month so couldn't be there. >> totally understandable. thanks. >> commissioner maxwell. >> i wanted to thank you as well for your civic engagement and also i think it was--did you say you met with the

--leadership? >> we have a relationship going back a couple years now. >> that's really really great. i think we should do something like that as well. and maybe it could be jointly or whatever, but i think that would be a great thing to do, so i want to thank you for thinking about that and really do--i agree with a lot of the points you are making in regards to some of the work we are doing now. i look forward work wg you and thank you again. >> thank you, likewise. >> commissioner ajami. >> yes, i want to actually echo all the comments made and i had the same question about engaging molone more closely. i also want to say, i learned so much being there and really appreciated the very thoughtful and fruitful conversations you guys are having and i do appreciate the relationship we have with you and the entire

team, because there are so many different constitch uents we are serving and so many issues important to many different people and the five of us cannot fully capture everything that needs attention, even though we are trying very hard, so we do appreciate your public service and help you are providing to sfpuc as a whole to more directly connect with communities and engage with them and learn from different experiences. we see you as our extension and we appreciate that. thank you. >> thank you, appreciate that. >> thank you. anymore comments? >> thank you so much. >> thank you mr. garcia. alright. can we open up to public comment? item 5. citizen advisory committee report. >> since you are talking about

the malone, it is good you all respect them when you read out your statement, but i want to bring to your attention- >> this item is for community advisory committee, correct? >> yes. that letters have been sent a long time ago, not only to the mayor, this commission, as to how the protocol has to be adhered to and one of your commissioners has seen me in action in district 10 when it comes to the first people. with climate change and what all you are doing and what all we are doing, we have to

respect mother earth, and when you think about mother earth and you think about indigenous people and i can go deep into the subject. the new chair person, charlene and the old chair person, rose mary have done a lot. i'm here to tell you charlene is going to be running for congress in the san jose area. thank you very much. >> thank you. anymore public comments on the citizen advisory committee report? seeing none, let's do the report of the general manager. >> a is quarterly budget staff report from laura bush. >> hi, everyone.

can i please get the slides? so, laura bush acting deputy cfo, puc here to present the first quarter of fy23-24 budget variance report. happy new year for the budget. projecting positive operating results, wastewater, clean powersf but a short fall for water. for water and wastewater revenues projected to be below budget. the budget was adopted [indiscernible] however removed may 2023 as you know. additionally, wholesale [indiscernible] power revenues projected to exceed the budget. large savings are projecting due to higher generation avoiding the need for additional power purchase in

the first quarter. projections for the [indiscernible] also include 100 day plan shut down of [indiscernible] the clean powersf revenue projected to exceed budget due to increase sales and customer enrollment partially off-set by power cost. the year end financial results projected to meet or exceed the target. i'll go into each enterprise detail in the next slide. [indiscernible] as mentioned, the net operating result is projected to be in the negative, $14.6 million. total sources are down by $26.5 million. this is largely driven by removal of the drought surcharge in may 2023 and lower wholesale volume. on the use side, these short-falls are off-set by savings in salaries and benefits, plan contsbution to

general jurfb $5.2 million in debt service savings due to the bond refunding. in wastewater, the net operating result is projected to be $6.9 million to the positive. same story as water. total [indiscernible] down by $22.7 million because of removal of drought surcharge we had been assuming in the budget. on the use side we got savings in salaries and benefit caused by vacancy and $27.8 million in plan general reserve contributions. in power, the net operating result is positive, $38.7 million. this is due to good news on both the [indiscernible] total sources up 12.4. [indiscernible] that is made up for by increased wholesale power sales up $11.4 million due to higher generation.

on the use side, cost savings of $26.1 million [indiscernible] these are driven by high generation avoiding the need for additional power purchase in the first quarter. last but not least, clean power powersf, positive $52.9 million. this is largely driven by positive variance in sources up $29.8 million due to increased power sales or interest income. on the use side we are seeing higher cost of power purchases, but that is off set by salary benefit savings and plan contribution to general reserve. all financial ratios are on target to meet our policies. that's it. any questions? >> thank you for your report.

it says wholesale revenues projected to exceed the budget due to sales of resource adequacy. can you give a example what that means? >> actually will call on my colleague [indiscernible] >> it saiz combibed with higher generation. >> barbara hail, assistant general manager. resource adequacy is product sold in the market. we are required to purchase this product. it is the capacity to deliver electricity. the product is expensive product on the market when we are able to sell it we get a good price for it. we have ra sales from hetchy system as well as from excess for clean powersf. >> it is a product? >> yeah, it isn't product like you hold in your hand, it is type of electricity, so you can

buy electricity that is flowing so referred to as energy, you can buy the ability to generate electricity if needed, and that's referred to as capacity. it is purchased on a megawatt month is. energy is purchased on megawatt hour so one is actual flower energy and the other the ability to provide that energy. >> adequacy comes in-- >> referred to as resource adequacy i think because it provides for reliability on the system. >> so, it is combined one of those two? >> resource adequacy is that capacity. >> okay. >> measured in megawatt hours. excuse, megawatt month. >> an example of that would be? >> you own a generating facility that is maybe a geothermal facility, you can

produce power at the moment that it is needed. you make a commitment to a purchaser you will if they need you. you don't actually produce the power unless they say, now please. okay? >> yes, thank you very much. >> thank you. >> commissioner ajami. >> before you go, can i ask a fallow up question? so i was wondering if you end up on that capacity side, if you end up reserving capacity for someone and then they call on it and you are using that capacity yourself, does that mean we have to go to the market and buy [indiscernible] while giving that to them? >> yes. as a matter of practice you shouldn't commit to two uses, right? we shouldn't be selling capacity to others that we think we need, right? >> yes.

>> so, we shouldn't have made the commitment if the purchaser said now please, and we are like, sorry we can't. we are not meeting our contractual obligation, and there are penalties and consequences within the contract as well as within the regulatory construct. >> got it. thank you. >> i actually-my comment maybe to you but maybe also to mr. herrera, i brought this up a few times, looking at the water budget it reminded me maybe i should bring this back again. we really do need to think about the decoupling our rates to make sure every given time we have enough revenue to meet fixed cost and we don't end up-i know we are on paper short and sort of managing our budget fine, but i really do think we

should not be dependent on the drought surcharge to capture the reduction in demand and then go back and--because they are not necessarily lining up properly, so my suggestion to you was, and i know just went through the rate process, but my suggestion is, maybe we can hire power rate consultant since they have been doing decoupling forever and ever and they can come and help us rethink the way we do water rate decoupling, because if you hire another water rate consultant, they are going to give you the same thing you already have. the only way to do this is bring somebody who has already done it in another sector and think about how we can revisit how we do water rates and how we can avoid this situation. that doesn't guarantee us being

in the situation, but in reduces this uncertainty we are dealing with at any given time. thank you. >> commissioner stacy. >> thank you for a thorough detailed report. i have just a couple of fairly simple questions. on your appendix a, there is a line item for department transfer adjustment and then appendix b, c and d talk another line item for services of other departments. could you expand a little bit on what those are, please? >> yes, the first mentioned is about $46 million in water budget. that is also known as the hetchy transfer. that is the amount the water department [indiscernible] to cover the cost of providing water. you'll see the opposite side of that transaction in hetch hetchy water power budget

report. service of other department known as work orders or interdepartmental services, those are costs we pay to other departments within the city for services they provide. examples would be city attorney, department of human resources, department of technology, myriad different work orders. >> public works? >> exactly. >> okay, thank you. >> great. any other questions from commissioners? or comments? okay. seeing none, open this to public comment. >> thank you. >> thank you very much for that thorough report. >> do we have members to provide comment on item 6a, the quarterly budget report? seeing none, public comment on 6a is closed. >> item b, water enterprise capital improvement program quarterly report. katie miller will be

presenting. >> we have a power point. >> thank you commissioners. good afternoon president paulson, vice president rivera and commissioners. happy to be here today. katie miller, director of water capital programs and if i can have the slides. thank you. today i'm presenting update on the water enterprise capital improvement program the end of first quarter fiscal year 23-24 from july 1 to september 30, 2023. begin wg the first quarter of fiscal year 23-24, the program resets and adopts the project budget and schedules approved by the commission on february 14, 2023, and subsequently approved by the board of supervisors. the program is referred to as 2023 water enterprise cip and includes projects with budgets greater then $5 million. the regional water enterprise consist of 25 projects with 23

carried forward and continuing from last fiscal year. two projects added to the program because the budget increased to greater then $5 million, and two projects removed from the program since they were completed. carried forward all 11 existing continuing project jz added two existing projects not previously reported. these pie charts show the status of the 38 projects in the program with budget of $3.1 billion. as you see the projects between pree construction and construction. expenditures were about $1 billion or 33 percent of the budget expended. this table shows the summary of program costs forecast by category for all active projects. because the budget and schedules were reset to the

february 2023 approved budget and schedules, there are very few variances. the $17 million variance within the watershed lands management is due to two projects. the san andres service road carried forward cost variance of $6 million from last quarter. a independent structural review of the 100 percent drawings resulted in more stringent requires for deeper piles and longer construction duration was recommended. and this was reported in the last quarterly report. the southern sky line bay ridge trail extension has a new cost variance this quarter of about $11 million. $10.2 million of this is due to base construction bids that exceeded the project construction budget and remaining approximately $800 thousand is due to higher environmental compliance and construction management costs.

the project team was aware the project costs might exceed approved construction budget and bid items for the primary 4 miles of trail scope was included in the base bid and remaining 2 miles of trail and other supporting facilities were included as additive alternatives bid items to be add ed to the contract later if and when more budget could be made available. it should be noted 3 out of the 4 bids received were closely clustered around the $20.5 million base bid scope, therefore staff are confident the bid prices are competitive. water enterprise has now found available budget within the same authority and will be adding funding to the project in order to complete all of the work and this will be a change order to the contract. your approval will be requested for this in the near future meeting.

this pie chart shows current approved budget for 25 regional projects in each phase of the program. during the quarter 2 projects moved to the bid award phase. now i'll share a couple project highlights. the water treatment plant o zone project during the reporting period the 100 percent design package finalized and 100 cost estimate performed and that project is now currently advertised. an amendment to the 2009 water treatment plant expansion and treated water reservoir environmental impact report was completed. the construction contract was advertised for bids. the sunol [indiscernible] since approved budget is greatser then $5 million. initiated in 2019, the facility improvement project will upgrade chemical feed systems

for disinfection, ph control and fluoride addition to hetch hetchy at the alameda siphon and approve for waters to be discharged. the project is completed the 100 percent design documents and being prepared for advertisement. during this quarter, the commission approved a sole source recommendation for chemical injection pumps required for the project and we thank you for that. the construction contract for the hairy tracey water treatment plant filter under drain replacement was completed. the drains have been turned over to operations and in full usage which is critical since we are currently operating the hairy tracey treatment plant at about 60 million gallons per day during this 100 day winter shut down of the hetch hetchy system. the mill bray security upgrade

was added. initiated in 2019 funds security and improvement such as fencing, video surveillance and alarm systems. the contract documents are 100 percent design completion and finalized for advertisement. for the local water enterprise cip projects, the current approved budget for the 13 local projects has total value of $1.5 billion. the majority of the projects are in construction and multiple phases. and just couple highlights on projecktds. the lead component service project is newly reported in 2023 local water enterprise cip. this was initiated in 2021 in response to 2016 senate bill 1398 that requires public water systems to submit inventory of

known user service lines made of lead and or unknown materials. the sfpuc replaced all known lead components and pipes in the 1980 , there are 10 thousand service lines with unknown materials and 4500 services lines galvanized steel where there is a small chance there is a lead material connection to the meter. city staff perform site investigations to confirm materials and finding much lower numbers of galvanized service lines. it is estimated 1300 services need to be replaced mptd the city distribution division and water quality bureau staff with support from contractor for street excavation and restoration performing the work in-house. during the past quarter, 184 water service lines were replaced during the quarter and about 200 are planned for this current quarter.

the cost per service replacement is estimated about $5600 per replacement. the reservoir roof tank coating project is also newly reported in 2023 local water enterprise cip. funds replacement of exterior coatings on all san francisco water reservoirs and tanks. coating typically last 10 years in san francisco harsh marine environment and many reservoir roofs and tank coatings are in need of replacement. previously considered r & r project, the cost for replacement is significant such as university mound with estimated cost of $6 million. university mound basement coating replacement is fast-tracked in advance of instillation of solar panel facility by the power enterprise [indiscernible] master plan will be performed next year to help prioritize

the remaining coatings work. and finally, the emergency firefighter water system pipeline project completed construction on 19th avenue. the supply project construction neared completion training of operation staff extends the project through december. this photo shows completed enclosure instillation for the efws at dell brook in midtown town neighborhood. with that, happy to answer any questions. >> great. thank you. i have a couple questions. or actually simple one. the blue tower the one you are going to recoat? >> yes. that is the legraund tank. >> okay. thanks. i had question if we can go back to the regional report. i want you to summarize because it went too fast for me or too

fast in general. this is change order that will come back to us based on some stuff you anticipated but significant enough you opponented it out that has come back. can you tell us quickly what that is attached to? i wanted to flag that. >> happy to. that is for the southern skyline bay ridge trail extension project. and we had lower cost estimate that we were carrying. we had to complete the nepa to obtain a caltrans grant for the project which extended the project about a year, so when we did finally get to advertising it for bids,b the bids were much higher then expected. we knew that we probably didn't have enough money in the current budget. we suspected that, so we broke it into a base bid with the 4 miles of the project scope and added alternate bid items we come back and add later as a

change order once we had secured funding. that is what we are now doing. we awarded the project. you all awarded the project for the base bid and now come back to you with a change order to. we will be able to build the 6 miles of the project. >> this was the added miles that finally came on boards once the bids went out? >> that is correct. the good news since we put as alternate bid item we have a price on it and it was competitively bid so not a change order that is whatever the contractor wants. >> thank you for revisiting that. supervisor maxwell. >> i just want to make sure the tower is the same color? >> absolutely. we love that color. >> puc blue. anymore questions for mrs. miller? okay. thank you very much for that report and if we can open this up to public comment.

>> any members provide comment on item 6b? >> this is a very good presentation in general. i would like the general manager and the commission to focus on the bayview hunters point. there are many, i repeat, many homes that have lead pipes. it is easy to say and make general statements, but it is quite another thing to first locate the homes and then do something about it, because with the water system

improvement project and the sewer system improvement project, there is a lot of general statements about helping the general population in san francisco. if our children have been drinking contaminated water and none of your commissioners have the guts to talk about it and then do something about it, then something is wrong. i'm asking the general manager because i ask kelly and he promised me and he said okay i'll do something, but he did nothing. i'm asking the general manager herrera to please not allow our children to die from lead poisoning. thank you very much. >> thank you. anymore public comment on 6b?

if not, i guess we will go to the--commissioner ajami, >> actually, i appreciate you bringing that up because i was searching online before you came up. there are simple tests lead tests that are-i know chicago has been distributing among their constituents to test their water. it is like--it doesn't need to go to the lab, it is something you buy and bring to your home and test and while you were talking i was thinking it might be useful to do testing and i know that we as a utility are responsible for all the pipes before the meter and behind the meter is the totally different situation, but what was going

through my mind was, if there is a combination of household lead pipes and then also street lead pipes you might get a higher different elevation of lead in the water and i have no idea if that is true or not or that will work or not, but just trying to think is there a way we can do a different kind of testing in this process? >> we do offer pretty significant testing and i like to bring assistant general manager ritchie up to share with you about that. >> steve ritchie, assistant general manager for water. we have a number things going on relative to lead, so i would make sure the commission was aware of that, because we really are aggressively attacking the lead problem. the first is the capital project described by katie miller, which is to find on the

meter side for the service connections any remaining lead we can and so that's a very aggressive project and fully funded that in the capital program and reduced other programs to make sure that moves forward. the second thing to note is, there is just been issued by the federal government the lead and copper rule improvement, which is a long awaited change in the regulations for lead and copper pipes and how they are managed. that we are still evaluating, but one thing it does is it basically directs water agencies to deal with the other side of the meter up to the house, see that's something we are looking at right now is what it take for us to actually accomplish that. there are estimates for many other places that are enormous,

chicago is in hundreds of million if not billions of dollars and expect ours to be something less then that. the last is lead testing program. i'm unfamiliar with whatever chicago might be using. we for years and years and years offer lead testing for inside anybody's house where we provide the bottle, they give us the sample and we test it and provide them the results. i think there is minimum charge and dont recall what it is, but we have been doing that for at least 20 years and so we do that routinely and make sure that is available for everybody. if there is a new simpler test methodology out there, we'll look into it and make sure we take advantage of it. we want to make sure it is accurate. >> you don't want everybody showing up with a inaccurate test. >> exactly. and we test and find out those are false results. that's all most as bad as not knowing the first place, but we

want to make sure we get the right answer and get people the help to do it, because in addition, as you change things we actually--the evidence shows that the disruption in the system causes a little spike in potential lead and so we actually provide point of use treatment devices so home owners can be protected that way. >> on the test kits, we did research. i'll send you what i know. >> i'll google from my seat. >> exactly, you can find them. on the lead and copper rules, for behind the meter, did i think we will have access to the money being provided by federal government for doing that or you think this is something that we have to do on our dime? >> whatever money is provided

i'm sure there will be great competition for it and the example is chicago. it has enormous problem there they have to deal with so that may gobble up all the money and still not make a dent in their program so see how that plays out. as always, we will look aggressively at opportunities for additional funding so we can do the right job. >> thank you. >> katie miller, with item c. water system improvement quarterly report. >> thank you commissioners. katie miller, director of water capital programs. may i have the slides, please? i present today a update on the regional water system improvement program the end of the first quarter fy23-24, the period from july 1, september

30, 2023. these pie charts show the program is still 99 percent complete. during the quarter there were $5 million expenditures. the cost summary shows the status of the two remaining active projects. there were no new cost variances during the quarter. the cost variance for the alameda creek recapture project was held at $10.2 million. same as last quarter while final contract costs are still being negotiated. the alameda creek recapture project future scope cost and schedule are being evaluated in order to include additional budget in the upcoming fiscal year 25-34 ten year cip to perform additional planning work to eventually complete the project. after approving the budget this

february, we will submit a notice of change to the state for changes to the water system improvement program and include stakeholders and that will be early 2024 to document the changes. we are holding the higher project cost forecast for now until the contract final costs are been determined and negotiated. many of the materials purchased for the project were redistributed to water enterprise facilities and will be capitalized for the full value. the estimated total value is about $700 thousand. other materials that could not be used by our departments were auctioned to the highest bidder in 3 separate online auctions for total of $100 thousand. finally, we continue to work with the operator to review plans for slope stabilization of the quaury pond banks. for the regional ground water storage recovery project

construction continued to rehab well pumpts and casings damaged by corrosion and install speed drives and flow meters. during the quarter 2 wells were rehabed and volts for flow meter constructed. contract d, the final contract the final approved electrical system design was received from pg&e. this contract advertised in october. happy to take any questions. >> thank you. commissioners--i see no questions so thank you for that update. >> i have a couple questions. >> commissioner stacy. >> thank you for that report. on the auction of the unused materials from alameda creek, you said the puc auctioned off material in three different

auctions for total of hundred thousand dollars. do you think that you got good value for what the puc originally spent? >> no. we spent a lot more then that, and because the materials had not been fab ruicated they were really literally raw materials at still at the manufacture plants in a lot of little pieces. we just didn't want to pay to have more manufacturing done to get to a higher quality maybe we could have gotten value back so we actioned as is and even that it took 3 separate auctions to get some kind of value, so we didn't get much back, but at least we can tell our rate payers we did everything in our power to try to get some value. if we had not auctioned them they would go back to the

contractor and we pay a disposal fee. unfortunate but better then not spending a lot of money and nothing for it. >> i had a couple questions about the alameda creek recapture project on page 4 of the quarterly report you show that as meeting--not sherbet sure about the page number. the construction progress towards los goals. i assume that is remnant from the original project and because there is no construction anymore and no progress that number isn't correct, is that--am i misunderstanding that sth >> yes, i believe that is really a mistake on our part for not catching that. there is no construction this quarter towards los goals and so we left that in from last

quarter and noted, we'll make sure we correct that for the next report. thank you for bringing that to our attention. >> sure. the other question i had is the alameda creek forecast for completion is june of 2024. you say else where in the report you are winding down the current contract. is that june 2024 date for winding down the current contract? >> yes, and we have not changed that yet because we just dont know what the next date will be until we have done more of this planning work. we have come up with a date we will submit when we submit the new budget request for the additional money and i think we are a little--once we submit a date we really are obligate today the state to submit a notice of change so just holding that date for now until we have better information. >> sure. okay.

thank you so much. >> any other questions for mrs. miller? okay. if not, let's open this item c quarterly report to public comment, please. >> public comment on item 6c? seeing none. >> seeing none, okay. is there anything else--? >> that concludes my report. >> thank you. any other announcements for activities events or what have you? none? okay. so, let's move to item 7 please. >> item 7. approve fee structure fee schedule for the use of reseverable rooms and spaces at the southeast community center and authorize the general manager to approve and modify event policy procedures for

reservation and use of southeast community center. >> can you bring up the slides, please? good afternoon commissioners. emily rogers, executive director of southeast community center here with victoria bryant our program analyst. thank you for your time and consideration. we are here to ask the commission to approve the fee structure and schedule for use of reservable rooms and spaces at the southeast community center. also asking you to authorize the general manager to approve and modify event policies and procedures for reservations and use of the southeast center. before we dive into the details of the fee schedule, i like to briefly share a few highlights. the center is absolutely fabulous. it has been well received by the community. as you know, the center opened more then a year ago in the that time established itself as a event venue with both flexible and indoor and

outdoor spaces. in alignment with the commission to serve the community, over the past year we hosted more then 1100 events and received more then 44 thousand visitors. we hosted community meetings, family celebrations, workshops organized by non profit, town halls as well as events put on by the mayor and other city dignitaries. i'm going to turn the presentation over to victoria to walk you through the fee structure and schedule. >> thank you director. good afternoon general manager and commissioners. i'll go ahead and get started. so, on the next couple slides i'll review the secc fee structure and schedule as well as the deposit, discounts and add-ons. here lies overview of the fee development process, which

began with research comparable spaces in it bay area. those spaces include city agencies such as the city daly city and san francisco rec and park department. after compiling research used the data and information to develop fee structure. we made sure to keep affordsability as forfront especially for the community members. by doing so, the fee structure and schedule is concise, clear to understand scr on par with pricing bases on comparable spaces. after developing a concise fee structure and schedule presented to the southeast community commission in march 2023, and they proceeded with recommending the sfpuc commission to adopt the fee structure and schedule. the fee structure consist of three fee types. individual, business and special events. individuals are members of the

general public. businesses are entities that clarify as corporation or private party including non profit. special events consist of fund raising, ticket sales weddings and more. on the right side of the screen, there are several examples of hourly rates using our most popular spaces. rates range from $90 an hour starting with the multi-purpose room, up to $125 an hour in the alex pavilion. depause tds are 30 percent of the total reservation cost and there is additional deposit in the amount of $500 for evernts that involve memorial service and events that intend to serve alcohol to their guests. there are two discounts, one

for district 10 community members and one for non profit entities. eligibility for the district 10 community discount is based on the individual rate and applied based on community members zip code. non profit discounts are applied based on business rate and receipt of current proof of 501c3 status. lastly, add-ons. there are 3 add-ons, event monitor, security and additional hours. event monitors and security personnel are required for all events outside normal business hours, and at the event exceeds 100 guests. the guests may request up to 4 of each at the cost of $26.86 an hour and $30.24 hour respective. the rate varies and reflect the

initial rate of the guest reservation. that concludes our presentation. thank you for your time. >> thank you for that information and that presentation. ironically i might say that i was looking at and don't remember facebook or instagram this morning and they have this section on there as you probably know called memories and look at it one time and the first thing that came up was my ugly mug standing in front of the community center and sure enough i remembered, i went and took a walk and had coffee and lunch there and must have been 365 years ago today and again i think all have been there or talked about it and know what a great center that is. anyway, i just had that comment and thanks for the presentation. any other questions about the presentation and fees and what have you or comments from commissioners? commissioner ajami. >> thank you for your

presentation. that was excellent. just actually have a question on the fees and all that. did you guys also-do you have feedback from the community on these numbers? they look very reasonable, but of course reasonable can be different thing to different people and i was just wondering if you have any feedback? >> generally the fees have been received very well. there are people that have expressed appreciation for having discounts for local community members especially. >> that's good. thank you. that was excellent. >> great. commissioner maxwell. >> thank you and thank you for the presentation. are the fees doing what they are supposed to do? they are supposed to help with maintenance and what are they supposed to help with and are they doing that adequately? >> we are a part of the wastewater enterprise and so the fees go back into the

wastewater budget and overall support our operation. >> could you speak a little closer. >> we are part of the wastewater enterprise so the fees go back to the wastewater budget to support operations and wastewater activities. >> so, then if they go back into budget are they delineated so you know what is coming from fees and what's coming from general-- >> not specifically. what we do--we have budget like every other department and we received good support from wastewater enterprise in terms of supporting our programs and activities and our budget, it is fair. >> okay. i just want to make sure that there is no-that we are doing the best so there is no problem with all a sudden maintenance. that there isn't enough money

for maintenance and not [indiscernible] have to do this or that so why i'm asking the question. >> i understand. the way the budget is structured, most of our budget actually covers our operations and our maintenance and we seem to be-been adequately resourced for that. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> just one clarification if i may. this is strictly events, this isn't rent base or long-term stuff, this is just community access because for the different facilities there to do events. this isn't permanent structures for anything, this is just- >> one off events. there may be a series depending how they are structured but basically one off events. >> thank you for clarifying that. okay. any other questions of commissioners? okay. i know that there are-been told by the secretary we have cards and people signed up to speak, so i ask if commissioner secretary open up to public

comment and you handle the public comment please. >> thank you. we received cards from susan murphy, francisco decosta and sterling if you can please come to the- >> and others- >> if you haven't submitted a card, no problem, just sign line up on that wall and come up after mr. sterling. >> we will call you. after the people who signed up. read the first name, please. >> good afternoon president paulson, vice president rivera, commissioners and madam secretary. my name is susan murphy, the chair for the southeast community center commission. i basically just wanted to briefly come to the podium to give to put thon record to be able give kudos and acknowledgment to the staff for the stellar job they have been

doing since the opening of the facility. there are many bumps and issues they had to overcome while taking into consideration the naeds of the futility and the community. there was a gap needed because even two months ago we were booked through 2024. my family has been in bayview hunter points since it 60's so this district 10 is deserving of the state of the art building and has been a long time coming. i have got nothing but praise from community as well as the service providers. please take into consideration that the staff has taken actually into consideration the fees so that they are fair and equitable to the community at large. thank you very much. i just want to say also, thank you commission r maxwell for bringing up the point in regards to the funds and how we can also see if they can also

come back to the southeast center specifically for events happening there. thank you very much. >> thank you. >> commissioners, i want you all to pay very careful attention to this situation. you remember we had 1800 oakdale and 1800 oakdale served the community very well. now we have 1550 evans. do we have a policy, a general policy on this building when it comes to renting the rooms? what's very important to note is, when you have a community

building you have to have community meetings. not what she said or somebody else said or what somebody enjoyed. that's all good. now, how are y'all going to cater in the short-term and the long-term to any community members who need a room? maybe for a hour or sometimes when you have to do deliberations like we are doing for 3 or 4 hours? we need to know this. there were some meetings held before at the treatment plant that didn't go very well, then they came to 1550 evans every morning at 8 o'clock i attend those meetings. we need to know. why is this put on the agenda

and who is effected and what manner? i'm saying this because the bayview opera house, sometimes they rent for $3 thousand, because there is nothing in writing, but before-- >> thank you. next in line, please. >> good afternoon commission. my name is oscar james. i serve as [indiscernible] commissioner to approve the concept of the mou for the southeast sewer treatment plant to be put in this original place. the community benefit package i lost my mou.

what i'm asking for this commission to get the mou to our community so subcontractors and contractors know exactly what's in there, how it benefits our community. i know most of you know dr. jackson and mr. prichers and otherss who--my darling friend mrs. maxwell is very familiar with a lot of this, but we need for the younger peoples to have the information in black and white what is due them for the suffering us getting the sewage treatment plant and not getting the cross town pipe to take the sludge and the sewage out. if you can make that possible. the other thing i like to say, i'm understanding that the water department is going to

get phelp street and think the community should be compensated in some type of way for getting that treatment plant. >> thank you. >> good afternoon. my name is sterling, a contractor fairly new about three years, part of the san francisco hyper-local building trade construction collective. we hold a meeting every tuesday at the southeast community center and me personally i think that it would put a hinder on us especially having trouble getting contracts in our own city as a community contractor being charged for the rooms that the actual community put together. the community built that, you know what i mean? i don't see how it would help us out if we were to be charging for hour, 2 hour, 3 hours for a room that was built

by the community. also, if we have to pay for this rate, the rates or what have you, we already having trouble again with our back-log because we have trouble getting contracts so to make this a necessity to pay a-it will be another bill for us and we already having trouble like i said, having trouble with our backlog so approving this i think would actually create a issue for small business contractors. that's all i have to say. thank you for your time. >> thank you. next in line, please. >> my apologies, we came back from another meeting. my name is dennis williams, a real estate developer, san francisco and also community

leader. sfpuc, must fund or refund past community programs started by legendary black leaders such as mr. oliver, ruth williams and [indiscernible] programs especially those pertaining to community outreach business credit job training bonding credit limits are smaub nob the receive priority preference on jobs in the historical black community and sufficiently funded to get ready for the new quantum technology that is coming through. any time things [indiscernible] funding must come to those communities. especially the naval ship yard and byo west plant. black developers contractor jz truckers and project cleaners are not given contracts that provide immediate economic impact in the bayview.

now and for future generations, $12 billion in budget for wastewater, why qualified black firms such as mine and others being racially excluded? sf hyperlocal buildings trades contractor collective meets at that community center and been for a while. they need [indiscernible] lead poisoning both paint and pipes toxic waste crippled our senior citizen most home owners in the bayview. their property is being targeted. they need help. egregious negligence san francisco city government is the reason i say i others say must contribute to funding of programs similar those in the fillmore restored dilapitated victorian homes for wethy white and chinese landlords decades ago. >> thank you.

thank you, sir. i do want to remind everybody we are talking about the fee structure for rooms at the southeast community center, so next in line, please. no. we got it and thank you, sir. please get in line and you will be recognized. sir, you are next. >> good afternoon. my name is demeeterous williams the president of san francisco hyperlocal building trades collective contractors collective. here to just get a little more-i don't think we should be quick to jump and start charging the community because again and i got a lot of love for emily. i was a plumb constructor on a job so any everybody needs to be paid, but at the same time, we need to do a little more community involvement, especially talking about a budget charging people that already don't have the

necessary resources or funding coming out and reaching out to the community for a place to come that is peaceful, that is not damaged or destroyed and not ran down that we actually have a place to go to and have funeral after funeral or community involvement and get us involved and it is good to see you all out there. glad you was involved in the pictures but good to see you at the community center to see how beautiful it was built and design and run. all the water work because it is [indiscernible] plumbing, but that is another story. just speaking in general that a lot of people who come to that community center don't have the resources or funding that we all are blessed to have, so let's do a little more sitting down getting the community involved and come up with a better budget and better strategy. thank you.

>> thank you. >> hello. my name is [indiscernible] mansefield, the owner of mansefield and mansefield construction clean up company site support out of bayview hunter point. i also had the pleasure working on 1550 evans street. we did the cleaning there and the part i want to speak on is there is a vast difference between 1800 oakdale to 1550 evans. back then i had no resources and it was paramount or it just provided opportunities for me to go somewhere to write a proposal to start my business, to research. we had computers, we had printers and there was no charge and i know this is a event space, but it would be so nice if we still had those type resource. as well i do not feel as

connected unfortunately to 15508 chblt 1550. it is beautiful place but does not provide some of the functional needs we need as well. thank you. hopefully i'm on target or task in regards but i wanted to share that with you. >> thank you very much. are there anymore folks that want to talk about item 7, the fee structure for the reservable rooms at the community center? anymore public comment? seeing none, can i--any other comments from the commissioners? if not, can we have a motion and second to approve item 7? yes, comment. commissioner ajami. >> i just want to say really appreciate you guys taking the time and coming here and engaging with us. it is always great to have members of the public here and to hear from you. just wanted to appreciate that.

i just want to also say, my understanding from this item was would not have anything to do with individuals going there and working or doing activities. this was only event space charging. isn't that correct? okay. >> that is correct. >> just wanted to make sure. thank you so much. >> are there any clarifications for this before we take this vote? commissioner maxwell? >> thank you. i too appreciate you all coming and i appreciate your concern and the fact you are here talking about this building really makes me feel good and this is how it gets better. i think we can talk more if there is not that business community space that perhaps we can look into having a business community space and i think the people will feel more comfortable as time goes on and

that it will get better, so thank you so much for coming and i think a lot of us have listened and will attempt to do better things or more thingz. >> i think i feel like i like to weigh in now. i went to the community center down by candle stick and industrial park. i was first appointed to this commission by mayor breed i was the secretary treasurer of building construction trades council. i'm a journeyman in the trades and we know it is great the amount of work done both in the community and the fact people were getting living and prevailing wages to build this wonderful center. it was convergence of good things happening and i know those resources for working to make sure that micro contractors and all contractors get full crack at works that

are done throughout the entire puc, not just 1550 evans are involved in this stuff and again, thank you for the clarification. this isn't the resource center, because people can still use those resources just like i have. i went there, been there to myself and buy a cup of coffee or not and it is wonderful resource for the community in particularly in district 7. i live in district 9 on the other side of third street, but that being said, it is a great community center, so i just need to weigh in on that particular piece so thank you all for coming. that being said, any other comments? is there a-request if there is a motion and second to approve the fees for the one-off events? is there a motion?

>> move to approve. >> second. >> motion and second. roll call, please. >> paulson, aye. rivera, aye. maxwell, aye. ajami, aye. stacy, aye. five ayes. >> the motion passes. next could you read the next item, please? >> item 8, award contract no. wd-2862, san antonio pump station motor control center replacement and seismic retrofit, to the responsible bidder that submitted the lowest responsive bid, big valley electric, in the amount of $8,869,322 and with a duration of 1,125 consecutive calendar days (approximately three years and one month), to replace the motor control centers and appurtenant equipment and seismically upgrade the san antonio pump station. this action constitutes the approval action for the project for the purposes of the california environmental quality act (ceqa), pursuant to san francisco administrative code section 31.04(h). the planning department has determined that the project is exempt from the ceqa. the commission will rely on that determination to make its decision on this action. >> afternoon commissioners. general manager for infrastructure. construction fract at the san antonio pump station. we followed a normal procurement process. three bids so this is to award

big valley electric and for their bid in the amount under $9 million and just over 3 years. >> thank you. is there any discussion about this contract award? any questions among commissioners? if not, can i have a motion? let's open up to public comment. >> members of the public present to provide comment on item 8. seeing none. >> seeing no comment, request a motion and second to approve item 8, please. >> move to approve. >> second. >> roll call, please. >> president paulson, aye. rivera, aye. maxwell, stepped out. ajami, aye. stacy, aye. you have four ayes. >> okay. item 9, please. could you read item 9 madam

secretary? >> item 9, public hearing to consider and possible action to adopt revised rules and regulations governing electric service (rules) in conformance with the requirements of charter section 4.104, effective february 12, 2024. the revised version of the rules replaces in its entirety the original version that the commission approved in february 2010 as well as amendments in november 2015 and may 2017. >> may i have the slides x please? my name is catherine spaulding, deputy assistants general manager in the power enterprise and pleased to present today for review and possible action the rules and regulations governing electric service. thank you. so, what are these rules? these rules lay out the conditions under which hetch hetchy power provides electric service to our customers. they are adopted standards.

they provide for uniform treatment of customers. they delineate our responsibilities as well as customer responsibilities. such rules are analectric utility best practice. our rules were first established in 2010 with some amendments thereafter. and up dates are needed today in order to reflect the evolution of the hetch hetchy power program as well as more responsive to our customers. so, as you see from this slide, there is a very broad range of issues that are addressed by the rules. they touch upon all most every aspect of our day to day operations and customer engagement, ranging from customer privacy, billing, metering and distribution and service line extension. i will take a few minutes to provide highlights and give a few examples.

for supply and interruption of service that is rule 2.3, this talks about the need for sfpuc to undertake needed repairs for maintenance and service can we interrunted but we will do so by givingads vance notice to customers and minimizing any inconvenience as much as possible. rule 5 initiated or modifying service. this talks about the process for applicants to apply for electric service and our process designing and engineering new connections and upgrades. rule 9 is street lights. this talks about how street lights must meet design standards and when we are responsible for street lights. for instance, when they are publicly owned, installed in public right of way and have been installed with our prior approval. rule 10, discontinuance and

restoration of service. we will of course discontinue service if requested by the customer if any code violations or tampering with equipment, but may also discontinue service if there unpaid bills. the rule s provide many specifics around advanced notification as well as safeguards for customers. i'll briefly mention a few. if a customer is disabled, elderly, facing life threatening medical situation, if there is bill dispute if there has been request for extension of time to pay due to financial hardship, these are all take into account. we have a long-standing practice of no discontinuance of services for our low income customers. cost allocation is rule 12 and rule 15. this talks about what the

customers responsible is paying for and what we are responsible for paying for. when it comes to upgrades and distribution and service line extensions. generally we the utility pay for electric facilities. these are switches, protective devices, wires, the equipment which provides for the flow of electricity whereas, the customer is typically responsible for substructures, conduits, trenches, equipment pads, et cetera. finally, i note there are many detailed appendixes which include standard form arrangement for customers such as application for electric service, distribution and service line agreement template, as well as many detailed technicals such as service equipment and instillation and operating requirements. so, for our proposed 2023 update of the rules, what we

have done is consolidate repetitive information, provided better consistency of terms, eliminated unnecessary technical language and generally sought to provide additional details and make the document more user friendly, so chief among these changes is we now have specific sections in rules depending what customer you are, if you are a customer that we are serving via connection with a third party distribution service, that would be pg&e, there are sections and specific rules for you. if you are a customer we are serving via connection to our own distribution, it is similar, but slightly different, so there are specific rules there for that customer group and our own distribution would be primarily in the city's redevelopment area, so treasure island, yerba

buena, mission rock, hunter point shipyard. finally there is a specific section and rules for our customers who are mostly developers who are engaged in multi-phased master plan developments. again in the city redevelopment areas. so, as i mentioned, 2023 update provides a lot of additional clarification and details, particularly around cost allocation and generating facility interconnections. this is primarily customer owned solar. but, largely there is little to no substantive change in the rules compared to the prior version. my final slide and the final point i would like to drive home is that these rules and the proposed updates are about accountability to our customers. this is the standard to which we hold ourselves and we are continually striving to do

better. in order to do this of course a first step is we must have clear rules that are effectively documented so we can be transparent and we can be consistent. today we are seeking your approval of these proposed rules to go into effect two months from now. this is so we can have additional time to socialize these rules with our customers, but please let me be clear, there are no surprises for customers in these rules and they very much reflect our current practices. we had many conversations with our customers about this process already. i as i noted we have detailed appendix. these are already online and can be updated and expanded as needed. i also would like to mention that across the board these rules or any of our guidelines or standards, we always honor the guidelines and standards

that are in place at the time a customer makes a application for electric service we would never want a situation where the rules and guidelines are changing over the course of a project so we are being accountable and consistent in our approach. we are bringing online soon a variance request process, because there will be situations where there is something specific to a site or certain type of equipment where a customer might need to request meeting our rules or guidelines in a flexible or alternative way so we need a clear process for those requests to be submitted and for us to review and get back to the customer promptly. alright, that brings me to the end of my presentation. thank you very much. happy to answer any questions. >> thank you. why don't you give a flavor for the nature of the conversations and interaction we had with our

customers over the last several months. detail. thank you. >> yes. i would say over the past 4 months in particular i had many dozens of meetings with our customers. these range from municipal departments, so port, dpw, mayor's office of housing community development in particular. the office of community investment. i also had many meetings and consultations with representatives of the private sector who are partners with the city to build housing, particularly affordable housing, and in particular a number of conversations with developers representing the work on treasure island and yerba buena island and mission rock. these were extremely helpful conversations for partnering and implementation in general and as a result of the conversation we got great feedback around where we could be more clear or more direct or

add additional details that helped our customers feel confident that we are understanding each other. that was a good opportunity to have those conversations and certainly the rules have benefited from them. >> great. thank you mrs. spaulding. i can tell even if i didn't know ahead of time that you must be the lead on revising and solidifying all this stuff, so incredibly in the weeds and details are tremendous. i read through a lot of documents and would be lying if i said i read every single one of the appendix. if i had read them i think my job resume would be pretty high level and will be employable different then what i do now. i want to say thanks for that stuff, because this is so important. i think you mentioned treasure island, east side of town, so much housing and development is in the books right now and if there is anything we need we

need absolute clarity when people get to the development process what they center have to do for the natural resources we are responsible for so thank you for that report that geds so far in the weeds. commissioner maxwell, but commissioner stacy is on my list next. >> thank you for the presentation and information. i think you mostly answered my question with all of the input from stakeholders and the feedback they have given you over the years on this program. in the drafting process, were you sharing drafts with the stakeholders or was it really just a constant feedback loop where you would take their suggestions and work them into the rules? >> the draft was shared with

our customers and members of the developer community and there were rounds of red lines coming back, so it was--they had a opportunity to dive into all of the details. >> thank you. long and detailed process. and then on your slide 5, the one entitled, accountability. i think you say the existing rules in effect at the time of application, does that mean if a customer came in under the old rules that those rules continue to apply to a customer? it may not matter since you said there isn't much substance that changed? >> it does matter and this was a concern from our customers to good opportunity to clarify if a customer already has their application for electric service in our queue, then any rules or guidelines in place at

that time will be honored. but, in addition measure to make sure that these rules are well socialized that is why we proposed these rules to go into effect two months from now in case someone might be preparing their application for electric service right now just so they are fully cognisant of what's coming down the pike. >> thank you. >> commissioner maxwell. >> thank you. thank you for your presentation. are these practices and changes, are they standards practices of the industry itself and did you all look into those changes looking in relationship to what other municipalities do? >> yes, thank you for that question. certainly electric utility best practice, particular ly for publicly owned utilities is

something that we--across the board these rules were informed by many many subject matter expert, all with specialty knowledge in their areas and contributed to what these rules say, so absolutely this is a touch point for us throughout our work learning from others and utilizing best practice when ever possible. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> thanks. commissioners, any other questions of mrs. spaulding? okay. so, we should open up to public comment please. >> any members of the public who want to provide comment on item 9? i where see none. >> okay. so, is there a motion and second to approve item 9? >> move to adopt rules and regulations. >> i second.

>> motion and second. roll call, please. >> paulson, aye. rivera, aye. maxwell, aye. ajami, aye. stacy, aye. five ayes. >> okay. thank you. motion pass. item 10. can you read item 10, please? >> item 10, approve proposed ordinance amendment extending the authorization of the general manager to continue to enter into agreements to obtain up to $150 million of credit support for an additional 10 years for the cleanpowersf program; and authorize the general manager to seek advancement of the proposed ordinance amendment for consideration by the board of supervisors. >> good afternoon president paulson, vice president rivera, commissioners. pleased to be back in front of you this afternoon. hopefully this will be a short item for you. we tend to bring you complicated items and this one

hopefully will be a very simple item. in fact, we had on our agenda our capital financing plan for the past two years to amend the financing facility for clean powersf. we have been awaiting guidance from the cpuc in order to do that, and what we are continuing to await that information, so if i may have the slides, please. so, as a result, this will be with your indulgeance a two trip to the commission with today's being a very simple item as some of you know better then most, the work of the board of supervisors can take quite a long time, so we are doing today is bringing forward

to you the form of agreement to seek your permission to have the general manager bring that to the bord of supervisors in order for that process to get underway. because what we are facing is the expiration of our credit facility in march. even as we continue to await the guidance from the cpuc. so, very simple item today. we'll have more robust presentation with the actual credit facility in january. it is a brief background. 2018, the commission again put forward a ordinance to bring to the board of supervisors granting the general manager authority to enter into up to

$150 million of credit facility. in fact, we have used at various times $75 million. we reduced that amount to $20 million due to the cost and the reason for having this credit facility is to provide liquidity to clean powersf. there are several ways it is used. one of the important reasons is we need to enter into letters of credit to back-stop certain power purchase agreements and we have used this facility for that purpose in the past. we have never actually drawn on the credit facility, we haven't borrowed funds, it is simply this liquidity tool. then the other important need is this cpuc requirement.

the financial security requirement essentially provides a resource in the event that something should happen to any cca, including our cca, and all those customers need to be returned to the provider of last resort. that amounts currently is rather nominal, however, the cpuc entered into a process to revisit the basis for that formula. a proposed decision was expected in october. it has not been received to date, and in the mean time we face the expiration of our facility. so, we have already been working with credit provider, that documentation will be brought to you in january, but

this document is simply an amendment of the ordinance passed in 2018 which extends it another 10 years or propose to extend it another 10 years with board of supervisors approval in order to grant the general manager that authority to enter into these credit facilities. it simply is a flexible way of providing us that ability. it isn't committing to $150 million, we dont intend to $150 million at this point, but as we did in 2018, we are providing a window of authority for the general manager because as these needs change, as we enter into different power purchase agreements, as we enter into commitments under the cpuc authority, we may need

to move more quickly then the lengthy board of supervisors process. so, with that, if you have any questions, happy to answer questions, but we are simply hoping to begin that process with the board of supervisors here. >> simple amendment and very powerful piece that is part of what we are doing. commissioner maxwell. >> thank you. so, you mentioned the provider of last resort. in some case would that be pg&e? >> yes. >> so they would go back to pge. >> yes. >> hard for us to imagine, but something should happen to cause our cca to fail and this is perhaps less applicable to

us then it is to others, but we have actually had one cca that declared bankruptcy in southern california and that prompted this revisiting of the formula. >> if we didn't have a pg&e, and something happened, who would we go back to? what is the provider of last resort if we were the public entity and we were everything and we get rid of pg&e rks how would that work? >> you're now entering power expertise and not my financial expertise. don't know barbara if you might have a answer for that. >> barbara hail. the construct that is described to you is the puc california

puc regulated entities, right? if we are our own public power provider throughout san francisco, we are the provider of last resort in that scenario and these regulation do not apply in that scenario. okay? >> okay. thank you. >> thank you. >> commissioner ajami. >> maybe a comment and a question. i know this is only a credit line for us to use when we need--i'm wondering if and maybe missed it and it is in there, if there a provision we can add or we can make sure you will come back to us every time we draw from this significant amount to make sure we are up to date, what's going on. just having that dialogue going

to make sure everything is- >> you mean from a information perspective? >> yes. because i think it is important not just for us, who knows who will be here in another 7 years but think it is important valuable knowledge for future commission to know who is taking what from who. >> if i may clarify, while this authority grants-while this action from the board of supervisors grants this authority, still every agreement at any amendment to those agreements has to come back to the commission. >> okay. that was my question. >> i apologize. >> no. thank you so much for clarifying that. one quick thing i would say to commissioner maxwell's question, the publicly owned utilities are not regulated by

california public utilities commission, but because we have this mixed situation here that is why you fall under them so they don't have oversight over--that's why the water part is not regulated by them. >> commissioner stacy. >> thank you. i thank you for the presentation. i want to make sure i'm clear about what we are asking for here. the outside limit of $150 million remains the same, we are just extending the period of time that the general manager is authorized to enter into another agreement or several agreements to 2034, so 10 years. but it could be and the staff report talks about the one agreement that we have in place, but it could be more then one agreement for smaller amounts as long as the total amount doesn't exceed $150

million, is that right? >> yes, it could be that agreement could be other agreements. >> okay. thank you. >> okay. any other questions regarding this move that we are being asked to make? any other questions? seeing none, i guess we bring this to public comment please. >> members present provide comment on item 10? i see none. >> seeing none, is there a motion and second to approve item 10? >> so moved. >> second. >> can we ask for roll call, please after motion and second? >> paulson, aye. rivera, aye. maxwell, aye. ajami, aye. stacy, aye. five ayes. >> okay. item 11 is communications which have been posted.

just acknowledging those. no discussion. the next item--yes? a question about the items. >> thank you. >> commissioner stacy. >> mr. ritchie on the water supply agreement update, i just had a quick question and i think i know the answer. at our last meeting mrs. san cola made presentation on behalf of bosca and one thing she asked for is update on alameda creek recapture project and i assume in the regular meetings with bosca you keep up to date as much as we can on that project and other water supply projects? >> steve ritchie, assistant general manager for water. yeah, we have various meetings and in particular one coming up where we will be reviewing the

entire proposed capital improvement program coming forward to the commission, but we also have regular updates oen the water enterprise capital improvement program and [indiscernible] program, so those are regular events. that particular project is still a little in flux because that is the one where we actually terminated the contract and there was discussion earlier today about disposal of the equipment, but we are just getting ready to start formulating where the project will go so not a lot of new information to share. there will be more over the next year. >> great. thank you. >> okay. any other questions on notices? okay. item 12, any items that the commissioners would like to discuss? >> do we need public comment on-- >> no.

>> no. >> thank you. item 12. items that might be initiated by the commission. any items you like for future discussion to put in the queue? commissioner stacy. >> thank you. i was pleased to see an article in the san francisco chronicle about recycled water featuring a photograph of puc [indiscernible] and it looks like the water board is going to be reviewing regulations for potable using recycled water for potable uses which is really good news. i also was interest said to see and haven't done a lot of my own research but someone on the water board said recycled water is less expensive then desal and i want to focus on continuing our efforts as part of both the wastewater program and the alternative water

supply to really look carefully at recycled water and using it more and more as a sort of a plus in many ways. thanks. >> thank you commissioner. >> noted. any other items for future dish discussion? seeing none, do we need to go to public comment based on the comments of commissioner stacy? let's open up to public comment on that particular item. >> any public comment for item 12? seeing none. >> okay. so, that being said, canned could you--that ends the regular commission agenda, so madam secretary, could you read the matters read during closed heard during closed session? >> yes. call for public comment on items to be heard during closed

session. 15, conference with legal counsel. lynette chun v. city and county of san francisco unlitigated file no.:23-01554 date filed: march 6, 2023 proposed settlement of unlitigated claim resulting from a water main rupture with the city and county of san francisco to pay lynette chun $42,115.44 in exchange for a full and final release, subject to final approval by the board of supervisors.item 16, public employee performance evaluation (government code section 54957(b) and administrative code section 67.10(b)): dennis j. herrera, general manager conference with labor negotiator (government code section 54957.6 and administrative code section 67.10(e)): designated representative: commissioner sophie maxwell unrepresented employee: general manager anticipated issues under negotiation: compensationdo we have any members to provide public comment on 15, 16, 17. >> then we are adjourned. >> item 14. >> make a motion. >> yes, so we-is there a motion to assert attorney client

privilege? >> motion-- >> move to assert attorney client privilege. >> i'll second. >> motion and second. can we have roll call, please? >> paulson, aye. rivera, aye. maxwell, aye. ajami, aye. stacy, aye. you have five ayes. please stand open session. i want to let you know the commission is recommending the board approve the settlement for item 15 and no other action in closed session. i need a motion whether to disclose discussions pursuant during the closed session. >> move to not disclose. >> second? >> second. >> roll call, please. [roll call]

>> five ayes. >> we shall now adjourn being no further business. thank you everyone. [meeting adjourned]

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