>> good morning, thed meeting will come to order. this is the january 22, 2023, rules committee. i'm supervisor hillary ronen, chair of the committee. i'm joined by supervisor walton and soon be joined by supervisor safai. mr. clerk, do you have any announcements? >> clerk: yes, public comment will be taken on each item of the agenda wh. your item of interest comes up, please line up to speak on the right. alternatively, you may commit in writing in the following ways, email them to me. if you submit public comment by email it will be forwarded to the supervisor and included as part of the file. you may also send written comment by u.s. mail to our office, at city hall, room 244,

san francisco california 94102. please make sure to silence all cell phones and electric devices. documents should be submitted to the clerk. items acted today, unless otherwise noted. >> thank you, can you please call item number 1. >> clerk: item number 1 is the motion approving objecting the controller for city of san francisco ten-year term. there is a request that this matter be sent out as a committee report. >> thank you very much and before we hear from mr. wagoner, i want to say that when we got notice that our extraordinary controller is

going to leave his post in february, my heart sunk to the ground and i've never really honestly have not been more worried for san francisco. because ben, you really have kept us going. have maintained the trust of every one that i know. i don't know a single person who does not respect and trust you. and really are the adults in the room figuring out,000 solve problem wz no political agendas underlining your judgment. so i thought how are we going to survive without you? and the pit of my stomach remained until the mayor

brilliantly chose to pick mr. wagoner. i've been working with you, mr. wagoner as a legislative aid for the past four years, at the time you were budget director working for then mayor now, govern gavin newsom. and when i started this job, it was during an era, i guess that was not changed. there was a lot of friction between the board and mayor newsom at the time. and i remember being in a battle information, i was also brand new a lot xhunger and came from the world of being an accountist so i was addressing my job in this way.

i expected to be embattled and it was the opposite, you're the biggest pleasure to work with. you never played games, you were straight and honest and brilliant and helpful and when you then moved to the department of public health, the department that i worked with more than any other department in the city, you just continued to come up very similarly to, controller rosenfelt with the good ideas to solve the problems really for the people. i could not be more excited about your nomination. i want to thank mayor breed for the perfect choice as far as i'm concerned. and just say that, i now have faith that our city will continue to be in good hands because you're willing to take this leadership position and i have no doubt we'll, which will be approved bit board of supervisors. so with that, unless you want

to make any opening statements, please mr, wagoner, join us. >> thank you so much chair ronen, i appreciate those comments so thank you. i really deeply honored to be nominated for this position and considered by this board for approval. it is an inspiring and unique opportunity for me to serve the city that i love, the city i live in and we are raising a family. and i'll give everything to the position if i'm approved. i spent the last 14 years working in financial management and other efforts to improve public services in san francisco, as you said, chair ronen, formerly as the mayor's budget director and for the last 12 years as the chief

financial officer and chief operating officer in the department of public health, the city's largest department. i hope that work has prepared me for this position. controller has a number of roles, as the chief financial officer and auditor for the city and county. the discharge of those duties and confident and affective manner as an affective stone of government. but the office is also a voice for integrity, ethics and accountabilities and a steward of the city's best interest. it is a voice for the use of data and information to apply to decision making about our critical public policy and operational issues and it's of course a partner to leaders throughout the city government.

many other cities across the country, we're facing a challenging financial and economic moment. and, it's true that there are probably some difficult decisions and times ahead but i am truly optimistic about the future of san francisco. and i'm optimistic about our collective ability to work together and solve these problems. like, all of you, i've been around through previous challenges that includes the years of the great recession, that includes the late 20 teens when we had a fed cal administration that attempt today dismantle our financial safety net through covid and many other ways. those were tough but i took from that experience the path

to resolve is to have all the stakeholders working together, mayor's office, the community, our department heads, our advocates our business community and that is not always easy but we keep our north star on our eye on the north star of providing the best and most efficient services to the public. and thats my cause for op at this sifm. --optimism. if i have the honor of being confirmed for this position i'll do everything i can to take those experiences and values into my work. i'm definitely eager to get to work in the controllers office among those using, the teams and the controller's office to analyze their teams to tackle some of the big problems and

big issues facing our city, homelessness and behavioral health improving the streets and others. we're in a moment of economic transition, i'm eager to jump into that conversation and work on a data driven strategies and option to see present to policy mainingers for how we can navigate this change into the next phase of our city's economy. we also need to continue the work and i'm anxious of continuing the work guiding light throughout our city government and i take that roll very seriously. i had the privilege of working with two great controllers, ben rosenfield and before him, ed herrington, i learned a lot by watching them do the job. they both approached it in different way to see a certain extent but there was a core common denominator which was

competence, integrity, independence, accountability and focusing on using data to improve through government services. i'll take that into my job. i'm aeg tore get to work and to work with the absolutely remarkable team in the controllers' office it truly is a special group of public servants. i would like to thank my colleagues at public health who have supported me through this process and over the years and with that, i will stop talking and i'm happy to hear thoughts from the board members here and answer any questions that you may have. thank you very much for the honor of being considered for this position. >> thank you so much. supervisor walton. >> thank you, chair ronen and thank you so much mr. wagoner for being willing to step up and move in a different direction.

i know you already have a good job, so taking a leap to another role is a positive. i know i have a couple of questions, one thing i want to hear just on record because we know the role of controllers independent, but the appointment is not, so just want to know how you would deal if your job entails the decision. >> thank you very much, supervisor walton, very good question. it's true, the controllers information is appointed by the mayor, confirmed by the board and serves for a term of ten years. and independence is critical in the nature of the work. there are a lot of things that i can say in answer to that question. the most important point though, is it comes back to

rooting your decision making and your conduct in the office in the city charter, with the city charter defines the role to be and the ordinances and the admin code and otherwise that describe the discharge of those duties. so reading the charter which eveb rereading the sections related to the office of the controller, is clear to me that their roles for the controller must independently make decisions. for example when there is a over spending projected in one of the city's accounts, the controllers office must step in. but it's also clear to me that independence means, you're not isolated and the charter requires the controller's office to have an on going relationship and conversation with both, the mayor's office, the board of supervisors or

other elected officials and city departments. so take that role seriously and use the, use the language in the charter and responsibility outlined in the cheater as my guide for navigating those decisions. >> thank you, and then, just curious what would be your focus on improving the ability for nonprofits to be successful but also make sure that they're in compliance with contracts and of course, making sure that they benefit the city in a matter where they can do their job and execute contracts, but also make sure that the city is able to be on top of the work? >> thank you, that is a question that is close to my heart coming from public health which has both depends on contracts with our private organization to see deliver our

services but also where i've heard a lot of the frustration and challenges of working with the city from our partners in the nonprofit sector. there is a process that has started to show some tangible gains that is lead by the controller's office working with the group of community base organization sxz that is looking at some things like how do we treat the cola, the compensation, the cola's for nonprofits in a more consistent way and how do we do a better job of having stream lined and coordinated monitoring? i think it would be a priority for me to work on taking that work to the next stage. you mentioned a couple of key issues, there is challenges with the city to officially

administrator contracts. i believe that we can do a better job broadening the pool of potential applicants for rfps and other city contracts and supporting organizations as they come in and express a willingness to do work for the city. and also providing support where our partners need capacity building and trying to develop that system of support. the other piece that you mentioned, which is also a priority for me, is working on how do we do a better job of being clear about metric that's we're using to evaluate success under our city contracts and i think that the controllers is in a position to help facilitate some city wide conversations, it's a tricky topic, but there is a lot of our work that depends on

successful relationships with our contractors. i think there is a opportunity to spend quite a bit of time on developing tools and data and option to see bring to policy makers for how we can improve in that area. so i'm excite today work on that topic. and i also think, i will mention, there is an opportunity to expand or change the compositions of that group that is working on that process that we have a an inclusive perspective on organizations. >> thank you. supervisor safai? >> thank you, supervisor walton asked a question that i was asking. the auditing has been helpful for some flt organizations to kind of guide them and i'm

talking about nonprofit auditing from the controllers office, i'm thinking about the department of public health. i'm thinking about some of the programs in-housing and supportive housing. some of it intended to guide and road map to strengthen organizations but we found some instances where there is been a significant problem, can you talk about that a little bit in the role that the controller's office plays in that? >> yes, absolutely, supervisor, and you're correct, controller's office audit role is one of the fundamental responsibilities of the office under the charter. there is a team that controls those audits, there are, there are challenges in delivering city services, i think it's critical to have active and

robust action where identifying where things are not working well and we're not getting value for public dollars. and even when there may be misuse of public funds. so that is certainly a critical role the controllers office. i have started digging in with the team on the work planning, i would like to spend quite a bit of time for the audit function. i've heard, and will continue to cult with members of this board, where they think opportunities may be. but, i'm absolutely, committed to carrying out that role and making sure that we have a process for ensuring that public funds are used effectively and the programs are being successful. >> we started that program with the current controller with the department on the supportive housing that was about a measure that i lead last year.

and some of that work is beginning, i think that's an important work between controller and yourself. just at the beginning of auditing showed some significant deficiencies and some problem within that department. so we need to prioritize as a goal for your transition. a second thing i want to talk about at least from my term on the board and i think my colleagues will agree. the position the controller plays is one of solutions and problem solving and helping the guide a us in an independent way when we have policy debates or looking for solutions in those. can you talk about how you will embrace that and how the role that the controller plays in those positions? >> yes, thank you, supervisor. i think i view the role of the

controllers office as a not a decision maker about those challenging issues but as you described voice that can support, can provide data to policy makers, that can bounce ideas off of members of the board or the mayor's office. and take those ideas and put our analytical capacity to work to create options that may be available to the board. i think with a tactical stand point, i would certainly be meeting regularly with the members of the board, to talk through the issues that they're concerned with, the areas where they need support and using the teams to my best of the best of my ability to do so. the controllers office is in that special role and this goes back to the role and the

charter of it stands outside the board of supervisors and outside the mayor's office and that role of helping facilitate conversation and using data i think is core to how the office needs to conduct itself and that is one of the things that i have watched from our former two controllers and learned lesson and i will continue to cult with our former controllers and all of you to learn how to do that, well and better if i'm given the opportunity to have this position. >> i would take it a step further, i feel that when a controller puts stamp of approval on idea, it helps all the stakeholders in the city. so i think that's a really important role. >> absolutely, supervisor, there are times when the board

or the mayor says to the controller, we don't just want data, we want to you give us a memberation. i understand that point. >> so the last thing i want to talk about is coming into this year, in particular you're stepping, you'll be stepping into this role in a very tenuous time in the city, about 800 million dollars deficit, i think the feeling is that that number will keep growing as we get closer to budget negotiations and potentially have, potentially grow further with that amount. some of that has to do with the 40 million empty office space in the downtown. some of the tourist industry, transfer tax, not as robust as

it once was because of the deflation and devaluation of property, property owners are going to foreclose more rapidly or hold until the economy comes back. all of that plays into a larger and larger deficit and yet, we have a significant number of services and positions in this city, city positions that the mayor chose to not fill over the last five years, whether it was 911 call operators, nurses, paramedics, a whole host of our kind of social safety net all over the city. just wanted to hear your thoughts about the structural deficit that is upcoming, the amount of services that will be impacted and some of the ideas that you have in terms of recommendations going forward. >> thank you supervisor, that is the i guess it's the build

question. i have a lot of thoughts and i spent a lot of years tackling questions of this nature but a few to share here at this moment. so number 1, as you described, the shape of the projected deficit includes a short-term deficit but also a structural, structural imbalance between structures and revenues. we have a short-term problem to solve in this two-year budget but we also have a growth in the deficit in the out years so. i think that's going to take multiple years of layering on solutions. there is some things that we can look at in the current year, and in the short-term, there are other things that will take a longer lead time to

develop ideas and analysis, flush out some of the ideas so we'll be ready in next year's budget or the year after to put those on the table or into play for decision making and the budget process. i think a few things that we can certainly do, the short-term things that the controllers office will help with that are in the technical financial analysis, things like looking at the city's debt portfolio, looking at the general fund, things at the rate where we can draw our fema reimbursement, we will certainly do those. the other piece of this is, at your, you described that economic transition that we're in. i think the current state of our forecast is, we have a good

forecast but we also have an unusual amount of uncertainty. and so, there is going to be both short-term and long term work for the controllers office and much of that has started in partnership with the treasure and tax collector to continue to get a better handle on what those projections look like as more data becomes available so. projecting out what the economic situation means for property and property base taxes, so that we can have a clearer picture of deficit. but lastly and i think, importantly to your underlying question, i think there are opportunities that the controller's office can use to support decision making by this body and by the mayor's office. for as i understand, the first time and quite sometime, we

have a nearly fully staffed city performance unit, which is the team that you're often reading reports and hearing analysis from. and in that capacity is something that we can use to flush out some of these concepts or ideas both short-term and long term. things are there opportunities and consolidated city services. how can we analyze programs where there is overlap and look for, savings, opportunities, opportunities to deliver services more efficiency. those things take time and thought and complicated to implement, i think that's a place that we can help. the team at the controllers office is already, working on some of that work to try to think through, leading into this process. how we can use the office to help with some of that analysis

and flush out some city priority options leading into the budget and that could include things like looking at vacant positions, looking at what is going on in our contracted spending or other topics of that nature. so we will be supporting to the best of our ability in that regard. >> so, i just want to ask you directly something that i know a lot of us with thinking about. i heard consolidation savings, vacant positions and contracted adjustment of contract spending. but i don't know if that gets us to 1.4 billion in terms of deficit. and unlike, probably anytime in the last 75-80 years, this downtown recovery in this downtown vacancy will continue to have a significant impact in

the short and medium term. how do you, how do you think about the overall service delivery and that's what i started with in terms of the basic important services. how do you approach that without thinking about revenue? thinking about where our revenue sources are? and how we adjust those sources. i think it's one that we have not seen in a very very long time. >> yeah, absolutely. and the question about revenue goes to the earlier discussion about about that on going analysis of the economic drivers which translate into our tax base. so there has been a lot of base line work that has been happened on that but i think there are multiple. the controllers office has the office of city economist.

the toint say a couple of things, i will not ask questions, i promise. as somebody that has worked

with greg in a number of years and the number of roles that he's held and i've held around the government, it's important to mention some of my experiences with his approach and the qualities, i think he would bring to the job and i'll mention a couple of areas that are important for the role. first, i think it's absolutely critical that whoever hold the role be an honest broker and under in their approach to the work. and i know greg will do that, having seen him in his approach in tricky situations in the past as mayor's budget director's and other roles, he has held in the city. i think the respect that comes for the office comes in part because it's understood that, when we're kind of saying something as a controller's office it comes with thought t comes from analysis from a tremendous group of people and the answer is the same, regardless of who is asking but

that would be a mayor, a board of supervisor member, it would be a member of labor union a nonprofit organization, you are an honest and straightforward broker of information and often contentious situation and i witnessed greg doing that over the many times over the years. other, i think it's critical that whoever hold the role have a belief in the power to place to do good in the importance of government. so while the control and the controllers improving that you're saying no, a lot. and you are. you really want somebody in the role that wants to be helpful that understand what is wanted and identify issues and try to help people get there. you know, seeing greg troubleshoot tricky situations

have seen him, kind of work through complicated issues, listen carefully and bring his knowledge and the knowledge of those around him to troubleshoot problems. so just a couple of my perspectives as i step out of role and look for this body approve to work with greg on a clean transition. >> thank you so much, i appreciate that. and now if we can open this item up for public comment. >> clerk: yes, members who wish to speak on this item, should line up to speak at this time. each speaker will be allowed two minutes there will be a chime when there is 30 seconds left and a louder chime when your time has expired. would anybody like to make any public comment on this matter? is there does not appear to be public comment. >> public comment is now closed. so, the advise of the city attorney, i want today offer an amendment to the item, if we

could amend the language basically to clarify when, greg would take over as controller. so the language would read moved that the board of supervisors approves the appointment of greg wagoner for the terms of 10 years which shall be the latter affective date of the motion or resignation of controller ben grossenfeld. >> second. >> would you also like to include deleting rejecting. >> oh sure, i can do it in one. and then it's my great pleasure to make a motion to remove the word rejects, is that the language? >> clerk: i believe it is. >> i have not been on this committee for a while. remove the word rejects, from

from this motion. can i have a roll call. >> clerk: voice chair walton. >> aye. >> clerk: supervisor safai. >> aye. >> clerk: chair ronen. >> aye. jaot motion passes without objection. >> and now i make a motion to send the amended item to the full board with positive recommendation. >> clerk: as a committee report. >> as a committee report. >> clerk: yes recommended as committee report, vice chair walton. >> aye. >> clerk: supervisor safai. >> aye. >> clerk: chair ronen. >> aye. >> clerk: the motion passes without objection. >> passes unanimously. congratulations, thank you. mr. clerk, can you please read item number 2. >> clerk: item number 2 is a a

appointment of food security task force. >> we have two vacant seats. i would like to bring up hannah if you can tell us about yourself and why you're interested on serving in the seat. >> speaker: i'm the associated directer on meals on wheels in san francisco and i would like to be a member of the food security task force because i think that food security is a essential to moving the needle on health equity and social justice in our city, in my position, i interact with members of the community everyday who are, managing chronic conditions and experiencing food insecurities. so i think that i'm well positioned to provide good

feedback and to advocate for members of our community to the task force and help make the recommendations to you and the other supervisors. it's a topic that is really important to me, i love san francisco and i just want to be part of making it a healthier place for members of our community to live. >> wonderful, thank you so much. any questions? i have one quick question for you. because we're heading into a difficult budget year and because in the past food security has been, you know, on the chopping block several times, something that many members of the board have fought very hard to protect. do you have any thoughts about what the task force may be able to do to sort of, lift up the importance of food security as an item? >> yeah. >> and that should not be cut?

>> absolutely. one thing that i task force is working on right now is the biannual report. and what the food securities means for the community and down streams, i think illustrating that with personal stories from people in our community and paring that up with data to illustrate how important topic it is. something that the food security task force does tries to do. i think i can help advocate for that, our organization serves every zip code in san francisco. and i talked to people from all over the community all the time. i think that paring those

things can try to, you know, drive home the importance. >> i appreciate that a lot. thank you so much. thank you so much. for not only applying for this position but for the work that you do every single day, it's so important and crucial and really appreciate you. it's a pleasure having you. thank you. that's all thank you. and next, we'll hear from laura jones. >> good morning, i'm laura jones i'm the program manager for lea's pantry in san francisco and we're a non prove thait does trauma informed initiative in san francisco imanage our community base programs. we work with the department of disability and aging to provide education with older adults and

adults with disability and a cal fresh living grant to need assessment in specific areas in the city that has the highest need and to do community engagement to try to lift up the voices for older adults and adults with disabilities. >> thank you. any questions? no? i'll just, i'll take the opportunity to ask you one question, can you talk about the impacts of covid and the end of the covid emergency on food security in san francisco? >> well there were so many extra supports, i was not here during the lock down in the pandemic i was living in oregon but arriving and seeing all the, the extra money that was going into cal fresh benefits and the extra support that the city was providing to the foodbank, and now seeing all of those things cut and the longer lines all around the city of

people needing food and families struggling and knowing that the direct relationship and how children are going to perform in school, the possibility of people losing their homes because they have to choose between feeding their children and paying their rent, just undering how critical food security is to the well being of people in the city. so. >> thank you, thank you, i appreciate you taking the time to apply. mr. clerk, can we open this item up for public comment? >> clerk: yes, members of the public wish to speak on this item, should line up to speak at this time. each speaker will be allowed two minutes. >> speaker: thank you, for letting me allowing me to speak on this item. it's very important, i think food security task force and i'm glad i was able to catch this item. my time is going out, i don't want to take too many of your time. i just want to applaud this board and body for, for being

mindful of this task force. and knowing how important their job is. especially when you consider the population like the homeless population that really relies on the pantries and the city support the dietician sxz nutritionist and the foodbanks, making sure the food is safe to consume. because anybody can just walk in and serve you. --i tried to eat at anthony, i was at dorothy day at berkeley, it's awful, people push you around. so we can have a more strict proses for allowing people to volunteer and serve, being in charge of food, and serving a

really sensitive population. because the homeless population that i'm a part of right now, is really vulnerable. sol thank you guys and i appreciate you. >> thanks tore your testimony. >> clerk: are there any other speakers in this matter. there are no more speakers for public comment. >> public comment is now closed. is would like to make a motion to recommend hannah grant for seat 18 and laura jones for seat 19 and send that item to the full board with positive recommendation. >> clerk: vice chair walton. >> aye. >> clerk: safai. >> aye. >> clerk: chair ronen. >> aye. motion passes unanimously. congratulation sxz thanks again. mr. clerk, can you please call item number 3 jao. item 3 is a

appointment electric commission appointee. >> thank you and we have one seat and two applicants. first i would like to call out ruth, good morning, hi. thanks so much. tell us about your qualifications and interest in serving. >> speaker: yeah, for those i have not met, i'm ruth kowitz, i first got interested when i spent sometime in 2019 volunteering in supervisor stefani's office when i was between jobs. and i loved engaging with the constituents and being here in city hall and also the volunteers that i got to work with was a wonderful community. since then i went back to work full-time and i was not able to come back and then i had a baby, my daughter is two and a half now so i'm excited to come back and tribute to the

community again. and specifically why i thought this was a good opportunity for me, i don't have a ton of experience in civic policy or elections policy, but i feel that i have strong experience from my professional career that i can bring to the commission and contribute in that way. so i'm a product manager in the tech industry and there is two real skills i can bring from that to this commission. the first is data analytics, as we heard from our speakers, it's really critical that we both set appropriate metrics that are measuring the right thing. measure them in the best way possible so we get good data and then analyze it to understand what it's really telling us and take the right actions so i would love, i've been doing that for my entire career and i would love to work with the team and help support

them in any way i can. and secondly, stakeholder management. product manager is a really key central role that has a lot of responsibilities but very little direct. so it's part of my job to bring groups of people who don't have the same agenda, who don't have the same point of view and get them working on the same goal and mission. it's engineers and marketers and data scientists and designers and executive in getting around them altogether and i can take that same skill set and apply it to the teams here with my fellow commissioners, with the, with the department members of the department of elections and the other department that's we would need to work with to achieve our goals. i'm really excited about the opportunity. i'm happy to answer your questions. >> thank you so much. any questions? supervisor walton? >> thank you, chair, and i'll

ask this to ever applicant how important do you think for voting to be made accessible to anyone and do you have any ideas on how to get people registered and to the polls? >> that's a great question. and i think it's critical that we get as many people to vote as possible. i think that's probably the most important thing that the commission does and the ways that the commission can contribute. in terms of specific ideas of how to get people to the polls, i'm sure there is a lot of programs already that are doing out reach, i just received my pam let yesterday to anyone that can vote to this address which i really appreciate it. so there is a lot that is happening already. and i think, there are probably opportunities as i mentioned that is not really my area of expertise and somewhere where i have a ton of experience.

so i would be looking to my fellow commissioners and department of elections to come, to come with those initial ideas and be able to help bring me along to learn what those key things are and i can contribute in other ways on constitution and things like that. >> thank you. >> supervisor safai. >> and it says here, you hosted polling station at your resident? >> i did yes, in 2022, yeah. so i live on the same block with the mission campus of city college. so during the pandemic, that location is closed that's usually where they have a huge polling station. so instead we had a smaller one in my garage. i just got a letter in my mail that said, we identified that you may have space, i was so excited and called them back immediately. i only got to do it once, after

that, the city college opened back up again and that's a much more better suited than my garage but i was really sad i want today get a bunch of americana day core but i didn't get to it. >> thank you so much. and then, just last question, what would be your priorities if you served? >> yeah, what supervisor walton mentioned about getting as many people to the polls as possible would be a really really high priority. and also just ensuring that we're creating a collaborative environment between the department of elections and commission. you don't want that relationship to be advosaryial,

let's get these people together and coming back with the best ideas and doing as efficient as possible. >> thank you so much, thank you for applying for this position and your willingness to serve. >> thanks. >> next and next we'll hear from kelly wong. >> good morning, i'm kelly wong i stand here to seek your support for my nomination to the elections commission. i believe this position will not only allow me to promote aoek al access for voting but for me to uplift the voices of immigrant communities. i have to start that my background may be uncommon compared to those who have historically served on elections. i'm a non -citizen and a broad

sit en born in hong kong. many may wonder why a newcomer like myself would seek this position. it is exactly because i'm an immigrant that i understand how it feels to be left out of important policy decisions and conversation that i am packets my life. for a long time after moving to the u.s., i felt defeated and struggled to hear my own voice. but rather than staying in violence or working in washington after graduation like many did, i moved to san francisco to serve my communities. through my work of chinese for affirmative action, i saw how low income immigrants face barriers that prevents them to vote. to breach this communication gap, i host and produce podcast to voting rights, in a creative

way that is not accessible but understand by mon lingual votes. to me, access is not just about translation but understanding. of course, these issues don't stand in isolation among chinese immigrants but also apply to the broader immigrants group that i have had the privilege to work with, across san francisco immigrant legal and education network. i'm grateful that some of them are here today to vouch for my support on behalf of their own, i'm sorry, their own organizations. over the--sorry, over the past three months, i work to dr. angs from the department of elections as well as commissioner preston and three esteemed members of the commission. we all share the same vision of empowering individuals to exercise the fundamental right to vote. this includes community of

color, low income graourntionz number efficient voters and immigrants and people with disability and hopeful and committed to make sure that every one has an equal voice that impacts their well being and of their children. in closing, i take pride in rediscovering my voice so i ask for your support today where my voice will not only be amplified but also the voices that i'm proud to represent in the elections commission. thank you for your consideration. >> thank you so much. supervisor walton. >> thank you so much chair ronen, and thank you so much for being applicant. same question, how important is it to you that voting be accessible to every one and do you have any ideas of how to get people registered and out to the polls.

>> speaker: totally, like i mentioned in my opening statement, would i like to stud collaborate with trusted organizations. because of my network with multi racial coalitions, i would like to talk to them and identify and address the specific needs of under represented communities and try to find a why the communities have lower disproportionately lower registration rates. and i mentioned also, i love to you know, language and cultural skills to examine the voting materials. on a mixture that those materials is not only available in multiple languages compliance with all access ordinance but also done in a way that is competent for immigrants voters. knowledge is power, without that, i'm mono lingual would not have access to ballot box

sxz make important positions with informed materials and knowledge. so these are the tentative things that i'm going to work on and things that i have compliance to that i'm already working to. thank you. >> thank you. supervisor safai do you have any questions? and i have the same question, what would be your priority? >> i think for the most part i talked about, but i can do, at that, i spoke to commission president and dr. earns and commission stones and commissioner sigh and parker and i think sense that everybody is on board with tha. i also know that the president try to create a committee to

cultivate agencies so we can have more information on our registration data and how to engage with data, sorry from diverse back grounds. and i think i can be the person on that committee, you know hopefully to solicit inputs from my communities and also be that person that people can reach out because of the trust already built with the groups. thank you. >> thank you, thank you for applying. thank you. >> thank you. >> mr. clerk, can we open this item up for public comment jao. yes, i would like to clarify before i make my statement, that zentecia withdrew their application. members of the public who wish to speak, each speaker will have two minutes. our first speaker. >> speaker: good morning, every one.

thank you for operating for open space for people to comment. i'm tim, i'm here in support of kelly wong's application for this position. throughout my work with kelly, i've been able to see her operate in various group making spaces, coalitions as she mentioned, multi racial, multi ethnic coalitions and i've been struck by her commitment to you know, the democratic process to putting her efforts where her mouth is and actually uplifting, you know, these believes that many of us have but not all of us have the opportunity to actually you know, follow through with. i also want to mention that it's a huge strength that she is from hong kong not only for communities that speak cantonese, when we uplift voices, we're able to see the

gaps in our system. and i have personally from work ining los angeles and other states that, you know, the voting process is not just accessible for immigrants but many, and i think, when we uplift voices from specific groups, that see those barriers, we make it for accessible for people and the immigrant community in the san francisco is a massive part of the community. thank you for your time. >> thank you. >> speaker: my name is vincent pan, i'm the coexecutive of chinese affirmative action caa. it's a community civil rights organization head quart erred in san francisco china town and we support the appointment of kelly wong to the san francisco elections commission. we advocate for systemic change that protects immigrant rights and remedies racial and social

injustice. demo cot i can processes and civic participation. kelly has been on staff since august 2022 as a immigrant rights advocate. she has demonstrated track record for migrant populations both in san francisco and abroad. she has a commitment and expertise about how to create more access for those who are marginized due to class stat uts, race and migrant experiences. this would make her an invaluable member of the elections commission. caa has reviewed the rules of elections commissioners and incompatible activities. we will ensure that kelly's work will not include any of these activities to exclude kelly from involvement from my election work.

kelly's role is to conducting community education on available service sxz resources for the same population. we respectfully support kelly wong candidacy for the elections commission of san francisco. thank you. >> thank y. >> speaker: good morning, i'm brent turner i've been involved with the elections commission for quite a few years advocating for open source software elections system. on behalf of the public, i want to first and for most thank chris as being a great cad list for this effort as well as the local effort that was first brought forward here by supervisor tom amiano. the budget cuts that we're con templating for the elections

department and the mayor has mandated can be accomplished by following mr. jerdonic's direction regarding deploying open source elections in san francisco. unfortunately, we've been frozen in place here in san francisco bye-bye lobbyist pleasure. so if we could make sure that the incoming commissionr is well versed in open source and understand the issue as a national security issue that can also be fiscally responsibility in the work of san francisco, i think that would be smart and i appreciate

your time today. thank you. >> speaker: good morning, i am the program manager of leadership at urban habitat. a 30-year-old organization that works through power and lifting the voisz of low and low income and color as well as supporting, leaders in these communities in our board and commission which kelly is currently a a fellow. i want to speak in support of kelly wong, the voters passed prop n. and that was just upheld by the court in august. as a san franciscan and in my professional role i think it's important to move that forward and hopefully, non citizens will be able to vote on all of their elected officials.

and talk about the tax that's they have to pay. we believe that language justice is component of racial and class justice. and to have that voice on this commission is really critical. those who's language, first language is not english, or notice not their dominant language has something that understand them and has that lived experience. given that there is no current immigrant in that commission, kelly would be the perfect for tha. i also want to say that kelly shows just a great level of solidarity, she does not only represent her community, of cantonese but all immigrants in the city. we have seen people be divided in the pandemic especially communities of color and i think her bringing a voice of

accountability and solidarity of others, is important. we hope that you support this as well. >> speaker: my name is indicate--caden, i'm here to support my support for kelly wong. i know ms. wong personally and i know her to be a very bright and moral and ethical person. and i believe she has applied for this position for this commission solely because she wants to serve the entire community of san francisco. in my brief statement i want to provide my support here and my expression and my belief that ms. wong would be an excellent commissioner. >> thank you. >> clerk: are there any other speakers who wish to give public comment? no additional speakers. >> public comment is now closed.

supervisor watson. >> thank you, i want to say first thank you to both candidates. thank you both for stepping up and i want to en shaourj all of you to continue to pursue a way to participate and the work here in san francisco. i appreciate boasting you for applying. >> supervisor safai. >> thank you, and thank you for saying that supervisor walton. it's a tough job to make a decision when there is multiple applicants. and sometimes we get very qualified and motivated and engaged citizens and resident of san francisco that want to participate. so i appreciate both people for

coming out. i did want to say, i think one of the things that, that we have not done well in san francisco and need to do better is fighting for advocating for immigrant communities that have language as a barrier to participating in the elections process. and i think that having somebody from that community that strangely can't even vote themselves but is that motivated to be part of the process, i think in this public time, in this public moment is the right person for this opportunity. it's no knock on ruth and the work that she has done. i think she would make a phenomenal commissioner as well. but given where we are with increasing amount of immigrant communities moving to san

francisco as supervisor walton said, engaging and encouraging more people existing to participate in the elections process, i think is an important thing. we made a very important decision in san francisco, much to the chagrin that wanted the status quo to move our mayoral election to november. and just that move itself will increase the participation by almost 30 percent of voters in san francisco in the most important election here locally. so appreciate both of the applicants, but, i think we should at this moment, support kelly wong for this position and i would make a motion to put her into the seat. >> thank you, supervisor safai.

i would agree and almost for all of the reasons that had you laid forward, so i will not repeat those. but i will say that, is it wouldcowits or kowitz, i had a great time talking to you. your willingness and enthusiasm about serving the city is so, infectious that we're not going to let that go to waste, we will be in touch from my office, i really really want to express my gratitude to you for not only applying for this position but, for doing it so thoughtfully and so

enthusiastickly want to go serve the city. i would support that motion and if we can have a roll call vote. >> clerk: yes on the motion to appoint kelly wong to seat 1. vice chair walton. >> aye. >> clerk: supervisor safai. >> aye. >> clerk: chair ronen. >> aye. jaot motion passes without objection. >> passes unanimously. thank you to you both, we'll be in touch. mr. clerk, can you please read item number 4. >> clerk: item number 4 is mayoral appointment to mus caltrans portation agency board of directors, janet tarlov. >> hello.

good morning, hello. >> speaker: good morning, good moansinger chair ronen, supervisor walton and supervisor safai. i'm very braitful for the opportunity to discuss my candidacy for the directer of msf transportation board. i appreciate your consideration of my nomination to the seat that was recently vacanted by manny for his term completing on march 1 of this year. in 2006, i founded canyon market with my husband. and we rant store for over 16 years still late 2022. we were proud to employ 100 employees, support 250 active vendors and serve an average

6700 customers a day. road construction, commercial loading sxen forcement issues were part of our daily conversation. my presidency of glen mark merchant association and my service as vice president and chair of the legislative committee for the san francisco council of district merchant association, thought me that i have a passion for public service. last yae, i spent some months considering what my next professional step might be. and i began to research opportunities to serve on a city commission. i believe strongly that mta has a fundamental impact on anyone who visits, works and lives in san francisco and merchants play an integral role in that system. i'm supportive of the practice of filling one seat of the mta board with somebody like myself from the merchant community.

san francisco must have safe, reliable and clean, and affordable public transit and soundly engineer system of roys and parking if we are to be an equitable vibrant and environmentally sustainable city. if confirmed, i will work to expand my understanding and the many urgent isvksues it's facin. i'm eager to represent an independent voice for the mer xhant community, while at the same time, taking holistic approach to making decisions that profoundly impact so many people. finally, i would like to thank you, chair ronen and supervisor walton and supervisor safai for your work on behalf of all san franciscans. i know the challenge of making decisions on behalf of others and i admire and respect your efforts. thank you and i'll gladly take

my questions you may have. >> thank you, supervisor walton. >> thank you, chair ronen, thank you so much for being willing to serve. i have a couple of questions, once the only vehicle triaage center that we have in district 10. and curious, your approach to addressing the side of people who live in cars and in railroad vs and vehicles. >> yes, so that's a very very difficult topic, vehicularly housed, this is a term that i recently learned. it's important that i maintain a kena wareness that this population is the most vulnerable to becoming homelessness. and there is a significant number of families with children in this represented in this population.

i think the only way to solve this problem is for the agencies to collaborate with one another. mta plays a role, certainly, but we need to work together to solve this issue which is incredible urgent for both the people who are living in those circumstances and the, the neighborhoods where this is happening. there is an urgenteed for appropriate parking that is secure and provides basic services like sanitation, water and power. i look forward to digging into it and being part of the solution. i'm not, i'm not, i have so much empathy for every one on

all sides of this problem. and, and i looked forward to doing what i can to help. >> how do you feel about mta raising fares? >> i think that the budget is a very important part, we have to have a sustainable system, i think we need to be looking at the revenue sources carefully and critically all the time. fares are very in and out part of it, it goes to the services being provide. the answers that i've heard from the staff side have been that, you know, revenue needs to stay at a certain level in order for services to remain at a same level.

what i've been told is not as simplistic as that and message is not as simplistic as that, but, we've been very fortunate to receive a bit of a stay on the urgency around raising fares in the immediate future, but there needs to be a lot of work in order to avoid that, if the services are not going to be impacted. and i think that's work that needs to be done and it's not an impossible problem to solve. afford sablt tremendous important particularly for, for communities where the household income is low. or people who are disabled or senior or students, affordable muni and we need to do what we

can to protect and preserve them. >> are you familiar with family tolls and what would be your vision on preventing them. >> i don't know i'm familiar, but the name seems to tell 34e that it's people's vehicles that are maybe non functional, maybe you can tell me a little bit more about that. >> it's the premise for folks getting fined for parking i willy but they don't have the ability to pay for them. so they lose their vehicle. and fines can increase and continue to grow and really puts low income community members in a position where they may not be able to get their vehicles back. >> right, and then there is the cascading, series of issues for folks that.

so, i, i think that the staff needs to be working very very hard to have to identify those situations. and find ways to help people out of those situations. that the level of the fines, you know, just having received some myself, they don't seem to be compensatory or appropriate to the infraction sometimes, $100 is a lot of money. and that's, those are the fines that i've seen. so that's something that i think about a lot. at my business there were a lot of students and people from low income households who worked for us and and whenever there was a ticket, it was a big issue.

and we as employees had to step in many times to help people in those and similar circumstances. where they didn't have enough money. so i'm very sensitive to it. i don't know the solutionds today but i think it's very important issue and i appreciate you bringing it up. >> there are some policies that work to alleviate the burden on low income from members of the community that suffer these fines. i hope you read up on some of those and come up with some items to come up. >> and sorry to, but, you know, towing is a vehicle is a drastic step. drastic for the person who's vehicle is getting towed and it

should not be taken lightly. so thank you. >> supervisor safai. >> thank you, chair. and thank you ms. tarlov for a good discussion this morning. how often do you ride public transit? and did you ride public transit here today? and what lines do you ride? >> i ride public transit not infrequently, my preferred way is by bike. i do own a car and i use it several times a week. and in terms of, arriving today, i took the m, i got it at castro station and got off here.

since being appointed or, nominated for this role, i made it a point to leave my bike at home and ride muni more frequently than i have in resent years. i would like to say that i've been pleasantly surprised at the cleanliness and the operation of the vehicles that i encountered. it was, encouraged to use muni more. and particularly, it came in very handy today because it was raining cats and dogs and i wanted to dress well for this hearing and, wearing rain pants was not part of my idea. so that's my answer. >> the reason i ask that

question is for the seat in this particular, they look for people that are regular riders of public transportation, so that's one of the qualifications. >> yeah, i believe there is a certain number of seats that are required to have regular riders of the public transportation system it's not a requirement for all of the commissioners. >> and then, the other thing is, we talked a little bit this morning, supervisor walton talked about one of the questions i had on impact on low income communities, so i appreciate you asked that question. my next question is there is not technically a seat for perspective of small business owner, if you read the charter, it's not written that way, but i think they reserved in a seat to appoint with that perspective, so i want to give

you an opportunity to talk about that. i know you spoke about founding canon market, big fan of that establishment i've been going there for 15 years, since you opened. can you talk a little bit about how, over the last few years in particular, there is been a lot of conflict between small businesses, commercial corridors and many of the decisions that the mta has made. i want to give you an opportunity to talk about that. >> sure, so, your question is specifically about the last few years in conflict with the merchant community. >> small business owners, merchant community and how they have interacted with them? and how you manage those conflicts? >> as you might have imagined, i have given this a lot of thought.

particularly the community that i, that i have the most importance with is is our businesses with employees and who operate 7 days a week. and have a public facing component the. and owner operator are if you, think about it as a section of the whole population of san francisco, it's an incredibly small number of people. you know, maybe there is 2000 of us, i'm really not sure, i would be interested in data related to that. however, we have an enormous impact on the quality of life for the people in our communities. and so, the one of the reasons that i'm so interested in taking this position, is i feel

with mta in particular. there is a nrs a real urgency around having somebody with that experience having a strong voice. and then at the same time, i don't want to forget that the job of a directer as it is of any board is to take the tote alts of the issues before her and and make prudent decisions that take into account all the points of view. but i do come from that merchant background, speaking for myself, i have certainly felt felt the the measure of making decisions that impact my business by mta and other city

businesses, frankly very keenly. in particular, when i was in my business, we would divide our time so we were divide our time to always be there and we were closed 3 times a year and we were there on those days. and to have antion say we could not get ahold of you, was a little discouraging. as we talked about on the phone, i feel like that lived experience of that out reach that did not live up to its promise, just to put it kindly

is something that i would like to see. and just in the last few months that have had a lot of input at this several of level at the hearing level from members from the mer xhant community. and if they come down and make their voice heard, it means that something has gone wrong before then, if they're coming down, it should be, i understand what the decision that has been, that's being considered is, and while i may not agree with every part of it, i want to, you know, just recognize that there is been out reach.

and i don't see that happening. does that answer your question. >> a bit. i like the part that you've under scored and we're concerned about the out reach job that mta does when decisions are made and how they impact communities and merchants. i gave you multiple examples, we were talking about on the phone that the mta. one of the things that the mta has said in the past, at least to me, i don't know if they said that to my colleague was that they were intended to have a point person, maybe they would overlap with multiple districts but at least there would be some to handle those problem and be as an interface. that will has never been realized.

so i think that's an important thing to carry. i think you said to me, that would be one of your top priority would be engaging and improving out reach. >> yes, and i appreciate what you're saying about the direct link because, because the as resident and as a business owner, that's my point of contact. so if there is strong communication with the supervisors offices, there is a

link. the supervisors know who the loudest voices are and what the points are. and are doing good work but maybe not as vocal about it. hearing that as our experience as supervisor, i think that's an area to pay strong attention to. and you're right, that that is what i'm passionate about. i think i told you that running my business one of the things that hi learned that employees and customers and vendors, they just want things to work.

there is a lot 6 leadership. that people understand and if, and you don't get everything you want, you at least know that you were heard and you got some of what you want. that's a really important faoes and that's something that i would bring to the board. >> one of the things that i noticed about the mt a, it's very top heavy, it's very managerial heavy in terms of the amount of positions. if i ask a question, i want to meet and discuss this, ten people will show up. so i had to turn back and say, i'm only going to interface with the director and director of libable streets.

what i'm talking about in terms of community out reach and those on the ground, one of the biggest frustrations for many people is that the way the charter is set up, the mayor appoints all of the commissioners and all the decisions are board of the body but we receive a significant amount of requests and concerns about the mta. so anything that you can do to prioritize is important in which the operations.

to try to anticipate concerns that may come. i would just end with, i think it's important that have somebody with your perspective that is interface with both potentially the good and the bad from this agency. i did ask you and i'll just end with this, why you would want to be a commissioner for this commission? i think you're going to make a lot of enemies and disappoint a lot of people and understand, probably will be the only commission that you ever serve on in the city. going with that with eyes wide open, i'm not trying to be a downer but trying to be very realistic about the endeavor you're about to take on. >> all right, thank you. >> you can say that about any

role in the city where. you go and serve on the commission, but mta, you made a lost people upset. >> in fact, every one, if your bus is late, your day is ruined. there is a pothole in the street in front of your house, you hate the seed humps, whatever it is, everybody has got a lot of passionate opinions. and to respond very briefly. i know the dinner parties would change and the and the inner actions would change. you know, i would like to, believe that, there are a lot of people who have interacted with me over the years who appreciate i'm a person of

integrity and that you know, do my best and i'm very transparent in my communications possibly too transparent sometimes. but i really want to do well by the city and bit people. i think it's important if people think that the, the board, the directors have some kind of elevated group. we are san franciscans and i think that very basic understanding is important. i'm aeg tore saefsh and i'm not disuaded by your questions. >> good answer. >> i have just one question, when we spoke on the phone, i

want to talk about vision zero for a moment. we did better last year than the year before, which was one of the deadliest years that we had for traffic fatality but it continues to be a major challenge for us. i would love to hear any thoughts you have on vision zero and the importance it would hold for you, et cetera. >> thank you, thank you for that question. we got cut off before having another chance. as mentioned before, i get around on my like, primarily and you know, i get sternd talking to, it's great to wear a helmet and your safety vest and all of these things, but you know, a neck injury, you're

life is forever altered. so when i'm a driver, the thought of causing injury to somebody else is haunting and frankly terrifying, that's one of the reasons that i do cycle is it reduces the risk that i could ever hurt somebody that badly or cause a death. san francisco for our level of population has higher incidents of these issues. and i really appreciate that we made a commitment to work on it as a city and i've had an opportunity to meet with a number of the you know, nonprofit organizations that

are working hard on this issue. related to tr■&ying to further vision zero mission that our, you know, deeply unpopular. i mentioned the speed humps, the prohi bysing on right turns on read that are coming in slowly slowly. and recently the state, requiring the daylighting of intersections. all of those have fans and attract orers. but i believe the safety has to be the number one priority, and it's a little harder to find a

parking spot for its it takes 5 minutes longer for where you're going. that's just, how i feel about that, that's not a merchant point of view, that's a human point of view and i cannot stress enough the importance of that. i, i guess, that's all i really want to say about that. >> thank you, thank you so much for being willing ■to serve in this role. mr. clerk, can we now open this item up for public comment. >> clerk: yes, members of the public who wish to speak on this item, should line up to speak at this time. each speaker two minutes. there will be a small chime

when you have 30 seconds left. and a louder chime when your time is expired. >> speaker: thank you very much. i'm paul terry i'm a small business advisory in san francisco and have lived in glen park for about 35 years. when janet and her husband took over, she was immediately involved in working with the community that we were cleaning up the community and dealing with off-ramps and on ramps, and as i spent more time in the community, and got to know her more, she recruited me to the board which is influential, she was nones me to do that. and i worked with her over a year while we were on the board and i think, what i wanted that a lot about small businesses because i work with them all the time and having a business of a certain size, it allows to you see a large perspective on the impact that you have in the community.

and when her and her husband are working with 50-60 employees, a lot impact the business and the community. so she didn't just stick to the small business of the business but looked at community at large. also how the impact of being a business of a certain size impact on travel or community or the population that they serve. so as a business owner, have you to look at the clients you serve and employees that you maintain and she brings that broad perspective of han so, for those reasons and many more, i support janet's approval on this board. thank you. >> speaker: hello i'm flow kelly and i lived in district 9.

and i work with the coalition on stof poverty tows and i'm really thankful to the requests that the rules committee members have been asking of knew nothing about her, but because of your que,z i learned a lot and i'm very happy. i'm very happy by what i heard. her empathy towards people that have such tight budgets that any huge thing like having to pay a ticket, having to pay registration even are things that they can't possibly predict like you know, yeah. yeah, all kinds of expenses that come up whether it be, medical expenses or what you have you, things that you

cannot predict. and it throws everybody for a loop and it may mean that they end up living in their vehicle. and i appreciate that, janet tarlov sounds very empathetic towards that situation. and very happy to learn more and has an open mind and asked questions. so i would like her statement that towing a vehicle is drastic. i really appreciate that. i think this is a janet would be a good person.p thank you. >> speaker: good morning, chair and supervisors, thank you for the opportunity to

committee on behalf of janet tarlov. i'm a 28-year resident in san francisco and 266 those in district 9. janet for nine years through our children's work and more recently where i work. i'm a frequent shopper at canyon market that janet and her husband started. she i'm so excited that she is appointed, she has done a lot of work, building up the membership and services in the area. and helping steward the organization throughout of the covid pandemic. she is trust i partner and cares deeply about the business leaders and neighborhood residents. her work through the col a city wide perspective of the businesses in san francisco. and her voice on the board will be an important one as they

navigate opportunities and challenges in the years to comec janet is devoted through service through san francisco, its resident sxz its future. she has demonstrated a willingness to serve her community in multiple capacity and works collaborative to seek solutions. one example, we recently had a rat problem and janet worked with a wide variety of city department, neighbors and business owners and others to work towards solutions. she is always organized and prepared. finally, i believe janet will serve san francisco well, she listens and cure yu, principaled and she will approach the issues and concerns that will come to the boateder with equity and forbearance. i enthusiastickly support j'sn. thank you so much.

>> speaker: hello supervisors shark' here to speak on behalf of janet. >> i went canyon market is my local market. i went down to go frao myself. i'm a small business owner myself, i've always been impressed how she ran. if you walk in the connection to both the community and the employees, it's self evident, when she joined cdma, she would come to the small business meetings, she would often be the only person there. quietly listening, asking thoughtful questions and i lis

carefully to her, because so carefully thought through the issues and was a really thoughtful partner in trying to advance in city's interest. what, you would experienced just now talk to go janet is the janet that i've come to know. she is thoughtful, she is kind, she is pae is honest and diplomatic. i support her with all of my soul and anybody that wants to volunteer with the city with those characteristics, we need so much more of that, and i urge you to vote her to the board. thank you. >> speaker: good morning, supervisors thank u so much for taking the time to listen to all of us, my name is sam, and i'm the founder and one of the owners of the business here in san francisco.

and i've known janet for well over 20 years. as a fellow parent and business owner and fellow ci■tizen of sa francisco, janet has one of the highest levels of inat thingity of any person that i know. her genuine concern for san francisco is at the highest level, she talked a little bit about the challenge of being a business owner. our staff who we need to care for. we have our employers that are trying to sell the food, people's livelihood are dependent on the commerce. general neighborhood in the

community, that we also have to serve in janet's perspective has always been e of compassion and care for every single one of the stakeholders and she cares about her micro community but cares about the larger region of san francisco. i couldn't think of anyone better to serve on the board and i encourage you to vote her through. >> clerk: are there any other speakers for this matter? no additional speakers. >> public comment is now closed. any last comment? well, thank you for coming out and giving testimony and thank you for your thoughtful response, ms. tarlov and i would like to make a motion to remove the word project, i

guess. and send the motion as a community with positive recommendations. >> clerk: yes the motion to ■[ attend the motion to deplete rejecting throughout legislation and recommend as a committee report. vice chair, walton? walton aye. supervisor safai. safai aye. chair ronen. >> aye. >> clerk: ronen aye, the motion passes unanimously. >> glazesing. and mr. clerk, do we have any other items on the agenda today. >> clerk: there are no other items on the agenda today. >> the meeting is adjourned.$c

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weeks later the pandemic h-4 one of the moments i thought to myself we have to have the worse business in a lifetime or the best. >> we created the oasis out of a need basically so other people bars and turning them into a space and when the last we were performing wasn't used turned those buildings into condos so we decided to have a space. >> what the pandemic did for us is made us on of that we felt we had to do this immediately

and created this. >> (unintelligible). >> where we would offer food delivery services with a curbside professionalism live music to bring spectacular to lives we are going through and as well as employ on the caterers and the performers and drivers very for that i think also for everyone to do something. we had ordinary on the roof and le and with a restaurant to support the system where we are and even with that had terribly initiative and hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt had to pay our rent we decided to have an old-fashioned one we

created club hours where you can watch to online and or be on the phone and raised over one quarter of a million dollar that of incredible and something that northbound thought we could do. >> we got ourselves back and made me realize how for that people will■y show up if i was blown away but also had the courage but the commitment now i can't let anyone down i have to make the space serviceable so while this is a full process business it became much more about a space that was used by the community. and it bame less about starting up a business and more about the heart of what we're doing. this

building used to be a- and one of the first one we started working on had we came out what a mural to wrap the building and took a while but able to raise the money and pay 5 artists to make a design around many this to represent what is happening on the side and also important this is who we are this is us putting it out there because satisfies other people we don't realize how much we affect the community around there when he i want to put that out there and show up and show ourselves outside of those walls more fabulous. and inspires other people to be more fabulous and everyone want to be more fabulous and less hatred and we

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myself and the 20 other professional instructors we are working with elders we create long-term reps i can't think of another situation academically where we learn about each other. and the art part i believe is a launching pad for the relationship building:see myself and if i don't try when my mom again. she may beat the hell out of mow if i don't try >> seniors, the population encounters the problem of loneliness and isolation even in a residential community there hen a loss of a spouse. leaving their original home. may be not driving anymore and e

classes and art to those people where hay are and we work with people in all walks of life and circumstances but want to finds the people that are isolated and you know bring the warmth there as much as art skill its personal connection. men their family can't be well for them. i can be their fell and feel it. >> i don't have nobody. people say, hi, hi. hello but i don't know who they are. but i come here like on a wednesday, thursday and friday. and i enjoy. >> we do annual surveys asking students what our program does for them. 90 plus % say they feel less alone, they feel more engaged. they feel more socially connected the things you hope

for in general as we age. right? >> and see when i do this. i am very quiet. i don't have anybody here me or something because i'm concentrating on had i'm doing and i'm not talking to them. >> not just one, many students were saying the program had absolutely transformational for them. in said it had saved their lives. >> i think it is person to support the program. because i think ida elder communities don't get a lot of space in disability. we want to support this program that is doing incredible work and giving disability and making

this program what supports the art and health in different way bunkham art as a way of expression. a way of like socializing and giving artists the opportunity also to make art for the first time, sometimes and we are excited that we can support this stories and honor their stories through art. we hope the people will feel inspired by the variety and the quality of the creative expressions here and that viewers come, way with a greater appreciation of the richness what elders have to share with us. [music] ■■ó

>> you are watching san francisco rising. a special guest today. >> i am chris and you are watching san francisco rising. focused on rebuilding and reimagining our city. our guest is the director of financial justice in of treasuro talk about how the city has taken a national lead in this effort and how the program is comlishing the goals. welcome to the show. >> thanks so much for having me. >> thank you for being here. can we start by talking about the financial justice project in a broad sense. when did the initiative start and what is the intent? >> sure. it launched in 2016. since then we take a hard look at fines, fees, tickets,

financial penalties hitting people with low incomes and especially people of color really hard. it is our job to assess and reform these fines and fees. >> do you have any comments for people financially stressed? >> yes. the financial justice project was started in response pop community outcry about the heavy toll of fines and fees. when people struggling face an unexpected penalty beyond ability to pay they face a bigger punishment than originally intended. a spiral of consequences set in. a small problem grows bigger. for example the traffic ticket this is california are hundreds of dollars, most expensive in the nation. a few years back we heard tens of thousands in san francisco had driver's licenses suspended

not for dangerous driving but because they couldn't afford to pay traffic tickets or miss traffic court date. if they lose the license they have a hard time keeping their job and lose it. that is confirmed by research. we make it much harder for people to pay or meet financial obligations. it is way too extreme of penalty for the crime of not being able to pay. we were also hearing about thousands of people who were getting cars towed. they couldn't pay $500 to get them back and were losing their cars. at the time we hand people a bill when they got out of jail to pay thousands in fees we charged up to $35 per day to rent electronic ankle monitor, $1,800 upfront to pay for three years of monthly $50 probation fees. people getting out of jail can't

pay these. they need to get back on their feet. we weren't collecting much on them. it wasn't clear what we were accomplishing other than a world of pain on people. we were charging mothers and grandmothers hundreds of dollars in phone call fee to accept calls from the san francisco jail. we heard from black and brown women struggling to make terrible choices do. i pay rent or accept this call from my incarcerated son. the list goes on and on. so much of this looked like lose-lose for government and people. these penalties were high pain, hitting people hard, low gain. not bringing in much revenue. there had to be a better way. >> it is important not to punish people financially there. are issues to address. >> sure. there are three core principles

that drive our work. first, we believe we should be e without putting them in financial distress. second you should not pay a bigger penalty because your wallet is thinner. $300 hits doctors and daycare workers differently. they can get in a tailspin, they lose the license. we dig them in a hole they can't get out of. these need to be proportioned to people's incomes. third. we should not balance the budget on the backs of the poorest people in the city. >> financial justice project was launched in 2016. can you talk about the accomplishments? >> sure sometimes it is to base a fine on the ability to pay.

consequences proportional to the offense and the person. other times if the fee's job is to recoupe costs primarily on low-income people. we recommend elimination. other times we recommend a different accountability that does not require a money payment. here are a few examples. we have implemented many sliding scale discounts for low-income people who get towed or have parking tickets they cannot afford. you pay a penalty according to income. people with low incomes pay less. we also became the first city in the nation to stop suspending people's licenses when they could not pay traffic tickets. we focused on ways to make it easier for people to pay through payment plans, sliding discounts and eliminating add on fees to jack up prices of tickets. this refor is the

land in california. it has spread to 23 other states. we also stopped handing people a bill when they get out of jail and eliminated fees charged to people in criminal justice system. they have been punished in a lot of ways. gone to jail, under supervision, the collection rate on the fees was so low we weren't bringing in much revenue. the probation fee collection rate was 9%. this reform has become law from california and is spreading to other states. we made all calls from jail free. the more incarcerated people are in touch with families the better they do when they get out. it was penny wise and pound foolish. now phone calls are free. incarcerated people spend 80%

more time in touch where families. that means they will do better when they get out. we eliminated fines for overdue library books. research shows were locking low income and people of color out of libraries. there are better ways to get people to return books, e-mail reminders or automatically renew if there is no one in line for it. this has spread to other cities that eliminated overdue library fines. these hold people accountable but not in financial distress can work better for government. local government can spend more to collect the fees than they bring in. when you proportion the fine with income they pay more readily. this impact can go down and revenues can go up. >> i know there is an initial group that joined the project. they had a boot camp to

introduce the program to large audience. is this gaining traction across the country? >> yes 10 cities were selected to launch the fines for fee justice. they adopted various reforms like we did in san francisco. as you mentioned we just hosted a boot camp in phoenix, arizona. teams of judges and mayors came from 50 cities to learn how to implement reforms like we have in san francisco. there is a growing realization the penalties are blunt instruments with all kinds of unintended consequences. it is the job of every public servant to find a better way. governance should equalize opportunity not drive inequality. >> quite right. thank you so much. i really appreciate you coming on the show.

thank you for your time today. >> thank you, chris. >> that is it for this episode. we will be back shortly. you are watching san francisco rising. thanks for watching. television. >> asian american pacific islanders may is asian american & pacific islander heritage month about san francisco the asian-american about the history and curtain or encouragement. >> about fun and family and food. >> about all of us celebrating each other together after celebrating the cultural tradition a our future. >> showing you the regular things like the families and connecting the japanese heritage and my heritage in hawaii and other asians around the city and world and growing up with the

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>> good morning. the meeting will come to order. welcome to january 18, 2024 regular meeting of the government audit and oversight committee of the san francisco board supervisors. i'm supervisor preston, chair joined by vice chair catherine stefani, the clerk is monique crayton and thank the team at sfgovtv for staffing the meeting. madam clerk, any announcementss? >> yes, public comment will be taken on each item. when your item of interest

comes up and public comment is called, please line up to speak on your right. alternatively you may submit public comment in writing in either of the following ways:e-mail them to the government audit and committee clerk at monique.crayton@sfgov.org. if you submit via e-mail it will be forwarded to the supervisor and included as part of the file. you may send to city hall, 1 dr. carlton b goodlett place, room 244, san francisco california 94102. if you have documents you like to be included as part of the file , please submit them to me before thend of the meeting. silence all cell phones and electronic devices to prevent interruption to the proceedings. finally, items acted upon are expected to appear on the board

of supervisors agenda of january 30, 2024 unless otherwise stated. >> thank you madam clerk. before we call the first item i like to make a motion to excuse supervisor chan from today's meeting. please call the roll on that. >> the motion to excuse supervisor ■2chan, stefani, excuse me. stefani aye. peskin--chair peskin. chair preston, aye. mr. chair, two ayes. >> thank you. the motion passes and just for clarty, we have president peskin sitting with today to join some of the discussions on these items so welcome president peskin. i want to let the public know we will be calling first item 1.

we will be calling item 10 as out of order as the second item on today's agenda, but first madam clerk, please call item win. >> item 1 is a resolution authorizing the office of mayor to sulits in kind donation through the civic bridge program from various city contractors, notwithstanding behested payment ordinance pr 6 months from enactment date of the resolution. >> thank you. the item is sponsored by the mayor. i have understand we have matt larson from mayor office of invasion as well as sophia kitler of the office of invasion here today. the floor is yours. welcome. >> hello. thank you chair preston. members of the committee. my name is sophia kitler from the mayor office joined by matt larson. the item before you today is a behested payment waver for the

civic bridge program. it is the such behested payment waver and pleased to say we were the first behested payment waver for the first time last year. civic bridge started in 2015. we are in the 10 th cohort and the goal is to bring in outside pro bono consultants and volunteers to work on strategic projects across the city. the program brings in extra capacity where there is a time crunch or the particular team does not have the expertise to work on something. it is kind of the scope of projects where you don't toopt get a full blown consultant. they tend to be designed oriented or facilitation oriented projects. so, it is short-term work, adds capacity and outside perspective how the private sector or outside partners

might think about a problem a little differently then how the city does. the behested payment before you allows us to solicit teams from for profit companies to do this work. they will be donating their time as a in kind donation. the list of proposed contactees i suppose is what i call them is the list of companies that have either already expressed interest and reached out to us proactively wanting to be involved we worked with in the past. none mentioned companies are actually interested parties at this time but given there is a forward looking anyone who might come in and lobby the mayor office and we wanted on record who we were planning to communicate with. we have a public news letter where we say anyone who might want to participate can but people we have worked in the past or expressed specific interest we reach out to

directly, particularly if we think there is a good match with the project. this cohort we have focused all our projects on homelessness, street outreach and housing. if you have questions about the particulars of the projects, matt larson can give us more context. we consider this work time sinceative. if civic bridge did not exist and were not able taget the outside help the city would get around to through our office or through the office of digital services but those are full dance cards and civic bridge allows us to move up the process a little bit. this behested payment waver once hopefully approved by this body and the greater board of

supervisors then allows us to reach out to those companies. once we have found partners that are willing and interested and good match for some of the projects, we match them and come back for a accept and expend. as of last year, historically those were retroactive. last year we made a commitment and first year we did that before we began the work, which we think is really important from a transparency perspective but makes the timeline a little challenging, so we are moving as quickly as possible so we will have-once behested payment waver is hopefully approved, we reach out to companies, we match them as quickly as we can, we come back to the board of supervisors for accept and expend and begin work once that is approved. it is a 16 week cohort and hope to start midmarchish and rap wrap up in june. with that, happy to answer any questions you may have.

>> thank you. thank you for your presentation and work on this. curious, the accept and expend, do you anticipate that assuming the waver is in place you can c anticipate it comes back as a package of here is the cohort and the various participants- >> exactly. we would be detailing here are the projects we match. we expect 4. historically cohorts are 4 to 6. here are the companies we are matching with those that package would include if not a grant agreement because we can't sign a grant agreement until we have approval to do so but bring letter of intent that they intend to donate a certain value of time. we have a formula for how we value the number of-i think

$195- >> [indiscernible] >> it is about $195 per hour of work per person and multiply by the number of people on the team and bring as a inkind donation directly to the department as one package civic bridge accept and expend. >> got it. thank you. and then, best case scenario when do you anticipate the cohort start date and the length of time? >> best case scenario, if everything went perfectly we start the first-second week in march and 16 weeks from there out puts to the end of june, >> yes. >> yes. >> thank you. and then how do you protect against conflicts in this situation when department is seeking donations of labor from these companies and is it in the-is there anything in place

in this outreach period that-- >> our office does all the outreach. the departments themselves don't have a role in that. and then the horet other thing, in the grant agreements, if you do work that does lead to something that turns into an rfp, the party that works on the civic bridge project is not allowed to enter into competition for the rfp or contract in the future so they are precluded from that work down the road. we do try and make sure that there isn't anything-we wouldn't match-i can't think a good example. ginsler with the planning department per se, if there were something going on where there is a close working relationship, but typically like the closest thing you get is many companies use adobe

services or many dp apartments use adobe, that doesn't mean they have a relationship with adobe so we check to make sure there isn't a-something [indiscernible] is that a word? something bad. but like we don't say there should be any relationship at all. >> one of the--in the project proposals, one was a dbi proposal i notice is not in the anticipated cohorts and i think you explained the focus areas. what happened to that dbi? is that for a future round? >> we may consider for a future matt can speak to this better. historically civic bridge was everyone could apply for random projects and just say we want help with x, yz and go out ■@an are try to find partners.

over the last few years we tried to focus the work on things we do think are strategic priorities, and if ort projects-if we have extra capacity to manage this process and we have extra partners interested in that we might consider it, but this year given the work load of the team we were very focused on the homelessness and outreach and dbi didn't rise to the level of prioritization. we may still consider if we cant find matches for some of the other ones and somebody really likes it, but-- >> thank you. once the cohort is completed after the 16 weeks, what's the process -i back? internally or to the board about the outcomes from the cohort? >> certainly we are always happy to come and talk about our work. there is a public forum where

we have a presentation of all the work that brings the volunteers and departments together. we invite everybody in the civic bridge cohort. it is held in a publicly available space. we have not historically been asked to present at the board of supervisors. though, i'm sure we would be happy to do so. >> alright. we should maybe discuss that. >> absolutely. >> curious if that might be valuable use of time or not. look forward to talking with you about that. unless my colleagues have any questions or comments, let's open this item up for public ék comment. >> members who wish to speak on the item should line up now along the side of the windows. all speakers have 2 minutes to speak. >> thanyou committee. i was listening to the mayor's representative speak on this

issue and on this item and i think the world of it, there is nothing like giving your time to the city and making sure that you are doing it right. that is what the program is sadoing it right. i have nothing but praise for this item. what we have to really consider is i think you know, putting you through the grinder in this kind of way is the way to get it right and you are doing it right, you are doing it right. nothing but praise. the other thing i want to talk to you guys about is, let's say you ask a company like google or sales force or microsoft to give a part of their time to

the city, and you say, you are going to ask them to do think y to make sure you are doing it right. the other thing i want to talk to you about is basically is, s that. when i kind of like i think you should ask civil rights people pro bono providers to also look into different things and how they can spend their time and give people rights and help people out and you know, help them out. so, you know, i'm curious to see what happens and still in the dark, still don't know where i'm going, hopefully by the end of the meeting i'll have a idea. thank you.

>> any further public comment? mr. chair, it appears we have no other public comment so that completes public comment for the day. >> thank you madam clerk. public comment is closed. thank you again for bringing this item forward and for briefing our office so thoroughly in advance. i like to make a motion to send this item with recommendation to the board of supervisors. >> the motion to move to full board with positive recommendation, stefani, aye. preston, aye. it appears we have two ayes with supervisor chan excused. >> thank you. the motion passes. madam clerk, plecaouof order.

>> item 10, ordinance authorizing the san francisco public utilities commission (sfpuc) and the office of the city attorney to approve settlements of claims arising out of the september 10, 2023, break of the sfpuc's water transmission pipeline at the intersection of fillmore and green streets for amounts exceeding $25,000 per claim, notwithstanding administrative code, section 10.22, et. seq., but not to exceed $1,000,000 per claim, and delegating authority under charter, section 6.102(5) for the settlement of related litigation, if any, up to an aggregate total settlement amount not to exceed $7,000,000, subject to periodic reporting to the board of supervisors government audit and oversight committee. >> thank you madam clerk and vice chair stefani is the sponsor. thank you for bringing this forward and i believe that we have jeremy spits from sfpuc here today. i see you. come forward and please floor

is yours to present on the item. welcome, mr. spits. sorry, vice chair stefani. >> thank you chair preston. this is a real simple matter in there was a huge major water main break in my district at fillmore and green streets on september 11 caused a major hole in the street which tons of water and are dirt ran downhill impacting so many residents and small businesses around union and fillmore. i want to thank the sfpuc to develop this ordinance to preauthorize the settlement of claims from the main break so resident receive payments more quickly. again, thank you for your work on that jeremy and just for context, normally each claim above $25 thousand would need to be approved by the board, which takes significant time and the city responded to repair the damage street and utility before thanksgiving and we want to make sure the

property owners are made whole as soon as possible, so i hope can count on your support and turn it over to jeremy. >> thank you. good morning chair preston and supervisor pestcon sor peskin and thank you for supervisor stefani. jaymy spits with sfpuc. as mentioned on septemberp 10, 2023 a 16 inch high pressure water main broke at the intersection of fill mere and green streets. water flowed down fillmore flooded streets and damaging approximately 43 residential and commercial properties. the board approves a emergency declaration in october. the item before you today authorize the puc and city attorney to approve settlement of the claims arising from the incident for amounts over $25 thousand but not exceeded $1 million per claim. delegate authority under charter section 6.1025 of the settlement of related litigation up to total amount

of $7 million. the purpose of the ordinance as stated is to enable the prompt payment to those to enable payment impacted by the water main break establishing a settlement procedure for timely resolution of anticipated damages claims or litigation directly resulting from the incident. the controller certify that sufficient funds are available from the proper funds or appropriation to pay for each claim as compromised and settled. the ordinance includes reporting requirement stating the puc and city attorney submit biannual reports to government audit oversight committee on the settlement of claims or litigation arising of the september 10 main break. thank you for your time and thank you supervisor stefani for sponsoring the ordinance. >> thank you mr. spits. let's go ahead and open this item up for public comment. >> members of the public who

wish to speak should line up now along the side by the windows. all speakers have two minutes to speak. >> this is exciting. i heard in the news when the pipes burst and i was out on the street. homeless guy. this is exciting because a lot of people will get paid and curious how does it work? if you sleep outside, homeless guy and sleeping outside and water starts flowing into your encampment do you get payment? can you petition the city for some relief? i don't know. i'm all for the people that live there. the businesses and effected by this. kind of like you know, not bad thing when you get $25 thousand and a million-not to exceed a million per claim.

wow, that is total $7 million. this is fascinating. this really puts the city in a different light for me, because every step i take now i'm paying attention to this is the city city. this is a city. it takes care of its people and how it does it and it is so exciting. happy for the businesses. listen, i want a payment too. at some point. i think it is about time. i want to know when. that is all i want to know. tomorrow it is great. jeremy, i want you to know, everybody at sfpuc is a friend. i see [indiscernible] i love sfpuc water. it is beautiful. i love san francisco water. i don't want it to burst. i don't want any bad things to happen, but for the people getting the settlement, man, you got my thumbs up.

congratulations. just smile sometimes and be happy and help people out. help people, okay. if you see people, help them out. thank you. >> mr. chair, that doesn't seem any other public speaker so we will complete the public comment portion of this item. >> thank you madam clerk. public comment is now closed. i like to make a motion to send this with recommendation to full board. >> the motion to move the item to full board with positive recommendation, stefani, aye. preston, aye. we have two ayes with supervisor chan excused. >> thank you. ■, the motion passes. madam clerk, please call items

2-9 for closed session. >> today's closed session agenda is compromise of items 2-9, which are 4 ordinances and 3 resolutions. authorize and approve various set ltments oflawsuits and unlitigated items ranging between approximately $40 thousand and $7 million. >> thank you madam clerk. let's go ahead and open up public comment for the closed session items. >> members of the public who wish to speak should line up to speak now along the side by the windows. all speakers have two minutes to speak. >> you are going into closed session. thank you. i want to appreciate the time you have given me today. it isn't a easy thing. i'll finish early. you started the time late.

they are going into closed seshz. i got to get out. i want to know when we see better days as a city? i hope it is tomorrow. tomorrow. i hope it is tomorrow. so, thank you everybody for giving me you time. it isn't a easy thing, but pushed against the wall hard and i just come and say a few words and maybe i get that back off. thank you very much. you guys are very amazing. i hope to be back and on better days and we could have drinks and enjoy our lives. >> mr. chair, it appears we have no further public comment, so we'll complete public comment. >> thank you. the closed session items is now closed. let's go ahead and have a

motion to convene in closed session. >> the motion to convene into closed session, vice chair stefani, aye. chair preston, aye. we have two ayes with supervisor chan excused. >> thank you. we'll now convene [meeting reconvened]x

>> we are now back in open session. thank you for your patience while we are were$j■7 madam clerk please report on the closed session deliberationsism >> item 2-9 recommended without objection. >> thank you madam clerk. i like to move to not disclose the closed session discussions. please call the roll on the motion. >> the motion to not disclose, stefani, aye. preston, aye. and member chan has been excused. we have two ayes with member chan excused. >> thank you. the motion passes and any other

business before the committee? actually, before we close, is my understanding that the item 10 which we heard earlier was actually agendizes as a committee report but our motion did not reflect that so i like to move to resend the vote on item 10. >> the motion to resend the vote on item 10, stefani, aye. and chair preston, aye. we have two ayes with member chan excused. >> thank you. then i'll move to forward item 10 with recommendation to the full board as a committee report. >> move to forward item 10 to the full board with positive recommendation as a committee report. stefani aye. preston, aye. we have two member chan excused. >>an