be ourselves. any time somebody finds out i am a member of the gay community, i don't get anybody talking about me, nothing at all. it's just oh, cool. you have a partner? like yes, i do. they start asking about that and how my life is. you become part of the family and here in the san francisco fire department it really is just one big family. you know, it was my dream to be a san francisco fire department member and i'm here. 2024.)

>> that i pledge allegiance to the flag of the united states of penalized paddled for all. >> i pledge allegiance to the flag of the united states of penalized paddled >> good morning it is >> welcome to the san francisco fire commission regular meeting this morning at 9:00 am., wednesday, february 14, 2024. >> 9 o'clock this meeting is held in three minutes per item.

>> public comment call-in: 415-655-0001 meriting id: 2664 334 2654 webinar password: 1234 webinar password: 1234 limited to 3 minutes per to 3 minutes per to 3 minutes per to the queue. the system will notify you when you are in line. callers will hear silence when waiting for your turn to speak. operator will unmute. >> you may also watch live at www.sfgovtv.org item one roll call. >> vice president fraser presents. >> vice president fraser present. >> commissioner feinstein present. >> commissioner collins and jeanine nicholson, chief of department. present. >> president morgan will read the land

the land acknowledgement thank you, madam you, madam unceded ancestral homeland of the ramaytush (rah-my-toosh) ohlone (o-lon-ee) who are the original inhabitants of the san francisco peninsula. responsibilities as the caretakers of this place, as well as for all peoples who reside in their traditional territory. ramaytush ohlone community and by affirming their sovereign rights as first peoples. >> thank you. >> hello? >> pardon me? okay.

>> (clearing throat). >> >> >> appear on the agenda. speakers shall address their remarks to the commission as a whole and not to individual commissioners or department personnel. or department personnel. or department personnel. by the commissioners or department personnel does not necessarily constitute agreement with or support of statements made during public comment. >> any public comment madam secretary. >> there is nobody approaching the podium but somebody on the line. >> caller would you like to make public comment? >> hello caller?

>> this is no public comment. >> thank you, madam secretary. >> so we'll close it out. >> >> 3. approval of the minutes [discussion and possible action] minutes from regular meeting on january 24, 2024. >> there any public comment um, comment on that um, item. >> nobody approaching the podium. >> all right. commission? >> caller would you like to make public comment on item three the minutes? >> okay. there is no public comment. >> to my fellow commissioners um, are there any discussion? or questions on the meeting for

january 24, '24 hour. >> do i hear a motion? [off mic.] >> president morgan, yes. >> vice president fraser, aye. >> vice president fraser the motion it january 24, 2024, including budget, academies, special events, communications and outreach to other government agencies and the public. >>

agencies and the public. >> . >> report from operations, deputy chief darius luttropp report on overall field operations, including greater alarm fires, bureau of fire prevention &investigation, training within the department, and airport division. and airport division. from ems and community paramedicine, deputy chief sandra tong report on the ems and community paramedicine divisions. >> jeanine nicholson, chief of department. the floor is yours. >> thank you, very much. present morgan and president morgan and commissioner feinstein and vice president fraser and commissioner collins my name is jeanine nicholson, chief of department. my report since our last commission meeting in january. >> we do indeed have a new department position starting in march as dr. portfolio i invited invited you all but dr. stephen changing will get an announcement out to you today but he'll be starting in march

and many he comes from dph and works out of clinic right now. and um, he will be um, transitioning over like i said in march so super excited about that and in a couple of last couple of weeks i attend as city hall with chief and others. and heard a really good sort of (clearing throat) summary in 2022 and chief will pack about that today, if not but a lot of good work done and i spoke with an ems advanced academy and people wanted to be paramedics

we offended that class to them they have a paramedic license but to work as paramedic for us and they are in the second week now. and lots of happening this month happy day after your birthday president morgan and it is black african-american and the lunar seniors the year of dragon has commenced and i've been to a few events on the weekend and a couple of events on the 24 the lutheran parade a good time (clearing throat) we need the see the incident in chinatown. on the first day of lunar new year and

from my reports from pd was they have the young people did it from out-of-town and so - it's really unfortunate that that happened. um, but um, yeah they've got the guys that's the good news. >> i met with um, archive if you find met with the chief of los angeles county fire and came to see us for a couple of hours and the is um, really curious about our d e i and the actions plans and all of that we spoke to him about that and yesterday archive buford and i went to hear sheryl davis from the human

rights commission a racial equity equity leaders and outs from the departments and sort of with work we're doing and how we get our severs wrapped around the action plan they're enormous and no way we can do it all at once but next year is some of the topics and what kind of guidance did we need from her office and so more to follow on that (clearing throat). >> panel interviews are within conducted for the next h-2 academy in june. we're now selecting um, those people who will come and meet with myself and other members of commander staff for an interview. and

today, the tony bennett cable car is happening at tunes the tony bennett way by the fairmont and a celebration with the mayor of 20 are year anniversary gay marriage happened in city hall here was a big deal and then capital projects and infrastructure and having a lot of conversation of late with all sorts of people from mayor's office and public utilities commission and rec and park and about our capital projects and our need and the challenges that we have. meeting that need and so there will be a working group to be formed very soon. with

quite a few of key stakeholders to see what we can do um, for the better efficiency and cost savings so we can do more of the projects we need to do. right now is really challenging. um, and so by good combhfgsz nothing will change over night but i have hope that we can move things along and some things are legislative with the past board of supervisors required the department public utilities commission do on every single project and really it increases the one everything that is one of the things to look at it and more to follow i had a conversation with commissioner collins to take the lead on this with me for the commission anyway so we'll speak further on that and then last but not least

former chief ed fittings died last week the chief in 1978 and one or more in by mayor feinstein we'll be attending and have a presence to funnel next friday and can get you that information. but if we could end the meeting in his honor i'll appreciate that president morgan. >> yes. that will be great. >> that concludes my report. >> thank you for your report jeanine nicholson, chief of department. my fellow commissioners any questions for the chief. >> i actually don't have to run off this time. >> you just a point of

information i appreciate you're talking about the incident in chinatown. and glad that those folks were identified and pleased they were arrested. and not only was it to me a violent act but a heart of chinatown - i wondered how a truck can get in there and the members deal with that. and again, i'm looking at the years but saw you're members out there i can imagine chief how difficult it might have been to move the equipment in there thank you for mentioning that and find is ironic that there is news in terms of vehicles and

last sunday in the chosen three, 16 with sections devoted in terms of crews i wanted to acknowledge the department is um, are we're talking about public safety i'm not against technology but, you know, again need to be progressive proven and injuring thank you for announcing um, the offer to talk to chaney appreciate vice president fraser in terms of being part of this progress just in terms of clarity for myself to the commissioners jeanine nicholson, chief of department. do we have an opportunity to when an opportunity occurs meeting dr. chang but we as is commission ratify the hiring?

>> i got our read about a week and a half ago but nothing to be spoken of in public setting i could be wrong if i am i'll come back and - but no - i got our agreement we week and a half or so again. >> i wanted it clarification and know there is pressures in terms of talented individuals. >> and with the commission i'm going to approve this um, i don't have is problem. thank you very much for that clarity >> thank you, mr. president >> and i'd like to say thank you for your report jeanine nicholson, chief of department. and i'd like to say

congratulations on your um, new explain i should say a done deal; right? you approved and the fire department and looks like a good explain has the right background. and you're happy so we're happy and thank you, vice president fraser for helping with the interviews and everything you did really appreciate that. >> and if there's a motion to if we have to do it formally do we have to do that formally to approve the hiring of the new medical director. >> we'll check on that. >> we can if you like (laughter). >> we'll put it on the next one. >> mr. president a need for

that in the agenda, you know, other than i don't see what it is necessarily sf entertainment commission. >> my bad. >> in terms of that may not be necessary liaison the commission i understand the hiring process and if i may mr. president jeanine nicholson, chief of department. and vice president fraser get the inclusion and comments. >> yes. she was a huge part of the process and commissioner was our liaison between us and you. >> by all means. >> yes. i was the liaison between the commission. >> i'm sorry- >> (multiple voices). >> i was on the interview panel (clearing throat) for the physician applicants and (clearing throat) we interviewed several and we choose the best one that is qualified and i'm

not sure how the scrutiny goes we need the and our cabin is really great. >> and look forward to getting to know him a little bit better it is interesting for me, i had a lot of healthcare professionals and it is he'll be it's been a long time coming. and as 7, 8, 9 goes own like everyone has to learn the job. >> i'll say that (clearing throat) and one other comment please. >> thank you. >> thank you for the bringing up the way mo item i heard that los angeles county couldn't voted to deny permits to cruise vehicles no los angeles county and the reason was the experience in san francisco. and the reason for they're not allowing them to go for more in

los angeles county i thought that was interesting a good job on that and way mo in chinatown in the newspaper and i guess it a good thing not a lot of gasoline in it i don't know but this is a story that will continue to unfold around the country i think we're the first cheaper thank you for your report. >> thank you, commissioner >> if i may just sure jeanine nicholson, chief of department. >> comment on autonomous vehicles in los angeles county i spoke with the la city fire chief with other foreclosings around the country we talked about autonomous vehicles and the los angeles city fire chief way mo vehicles are upcoming in

their city so they were given really no warning of notice no anything and so we are going to work together with them and we're already working with our city partners on the legislative level nothing we can do right now the dmv over redistributing. so there is work shop that the chief has been involved in with that and um, we have some of our local our state elected officials from this area that are working on it with us so um, it really needs to happen and we need to do some standards put in place. but we are seeking a lot more autonomous vehicles around our city and in los angeles county so they're going to have

the same challenges and instituted something to send up the chain with an issue with a way mo vehicle so - we are need to come together as a fire service to push back against this they're here to stay but we are pushing back. >> one follow-up um, it seems to me we're doing this not only company by company but seems like a wasting waste of time and i'm glad it moves up to some legislation company by company takes forever and not getting the jobs done whatever the concerns maybe. >> it need to be on a state level. >> go ahead chief i want to

make a comment? >> good morning president morgan and president morgan vice president fraser and 41 permits in the state of california we're just two main companies driving this industry are active in to we're with the chiefs the leadership of that kind of the tip of the spirit and the city for the national service response to if we can talk about it more if i like we have conversation with the national level and on the bodies proposed legislation at a national level and san francisco didn't have a seat at the table but we stay in contact. >> um, commissioner collins had a comment. >> i just wanted to add to what has been said i think that is very valuable to propose of

issue of autonomous vehicle as a public safety issue because nationally there are equities that pride them as looking at the public safety especially in vehicles. and those are potential allies and conduits of information it is not on everyone's top agenda other cities don't have the experience we do if we plug into the non-partial independent inhibits not government we're already doing that. but with the issue of public safety of autonomous vehicles must be regulated, etc., etc. not by technology. i know you've been careful to make that distinction i think that is a big plus and a big opportunity

so. making the data that you have available would be one step offering to share that data would be very valuable. >> yeah. and commissioner we regularly do that we've been in conversation not just with the national highway but some of the industry, you know, policy seters honestly was a bit of a ref last we came up with a public safety response will be ad hoc and came to the same exclusions that the policymakers had been but not in conversation now we are in conversation. >> that's right. >> go ahead commissioner. >> oh. >> commissioner feinstein.

>> question i want to follow up i know that was mentioned a couple of meetings go ago we started talking about the issues that are occurring and cruise was operational in san francisco i believe there was an order of some kind of or a request for the manner in which the department communities with its members that requires all members that encounter i don't know if it is a dares encounter or collision something - um, what can i say an untoward effort. >> unusual occurrence. >> but trying to figure out if

it meets that category and . >> we reduced incidents with cruise verification of the permit alone listenser by a uptick in the number of incidents and what accidents was interfering in our operation and took it out of unusual occurrence which carried more information to autonomous vehicles and the time it took the companies to remove the vehicles. >> any estimate (clearing throat) excuse me - how many of those reports you received. >> to dated 92. >> wow. . thank you. >> we haven't had - one

incident was and not specifically you'll see a picture of a model rolling in but an accident not really specific to sdookz. >> that continues with the board. >> it continues with the board and we're now in partnership with um, with mta and county transit so they collect a subset of incidents and aggregate through the report of dmv and pd reports they aggregate. >> that is helpful though that process. >> it has been a ref last everyone is encountering

autonomous vehicles and . >> thank you, both and commissioner nakajo has a question. >> the concerns of this i think the concerns of fire commission is whole issue of a first time experience and revelation if you feel part of fire department the proposed in terms of obstruction of cruise vehicles. starting all the way with looking to the i remember commissioner cox was talking about this and policy issues as well. the bottom line not communicating with us and any everybody is communicating with the i think about the enormous

workload and the jurisdiction mta are dealing with that for me particularly and told that technology is coming whether you like it or not and part of this i think about the drivers not driving i think about the public safety issue um, but focusing on cruise the same as cruise and often i see way mo speaking in the situation that is creates the kind of problems we saw in crisis i'm wondering about the technology, you know, up to saturday in chinatown where the vandals hit that i - i mean this was outrageous but i know that is coming as point to the

commissioners i got approached by a francisco from the japanese chamber of commerce to look at the incidents and i couldn't believe that they were looking at this because it is nothing but cabs by new york he told her in japan not enough people to apply to drive trucks because six the low wages and long hours that created a problem when i hear it it triggers but they're telling me they're looking at the other countries by people are isolated being the transportation so all i'm saying we have a long way to go to the introduction of subject matter i think about the workload chief on that as we get to it i'm

proud will be that we're the first in terms of public safety and looking at this i wanted to just make that comment commissioners. >> thank you commissioner nakajo. >> madam secretary i want to go back to item 4 after jeanine nicholson, chief of department. report and ask was there any public comment on her report and there is nobody with their hand raised on the public comment line if you need to make public comment press star three and nobody approaching the podium. >> um, all right. thank you madam secretary and deputy chief darius luttropp, operations. you're on. >> i know we have a tight day i'll not dillydallying this is a report for the month of january and for for the first slide we

don't see anything out of ordinary for boxes and rescues in alignment and one greater fire alarms in the month of japan a second alarm fire on knoll street across from brunswick the division chief was chief patrick rabbit and it was 1618 at three 43 arriving to fight the fire at the front of the building and what we'll call the bravo to structures and the second alarm was coming on team and held as 43 put out the fire and three three got a survival and i arrived did request a

second alarm for two structures. and at this point, i did a bravo exposure and figure out the fire. >> when division three transferred and 10 arrived pretty soon after and italy and was given the fire on knoll and pressed the transitioned to the living space a one hundred and fifty foot with the fire suppression on the third floor when rescue two got the task of searching and the main fire was in the garage so they addressed that fire and companies worked upstairs to extinguish any fire that they found on the second

floor this fire present with a number of challenges we talked about in the past and objective a small building with - good lot line on the size except for the bravo had to deploy companies to insure that but as is fire went on knoll they encountered poor conditions and saw the spoke that was the fire that was oxygen deprived in advancement to the building they were careful about coordinating the fire attack and didn't open but allowed the fire to extinguish a good job and were challenges beyond the fires the structure and the things were presented to us that the chief addresses in his report i'm allow to take a

look at it and further meeting commander control the need for the chiefs to have firm control of operational lines are placed and not put people in harm's way were addressed i'm confident we're moving forward the chiefs recommendations will um, be no displacements by this fire. >> and i like to bring you, you guys some fun stuff for valentine's day we'll talk about the technicians like seaside environmentalist takes and we talked about - is so is a joint

project into the california highway practical with the fire department and 13 members trained call technicians and those are members all paramedics at this point they bring life support skills and now have the additional technology ability to dang from a helicopter i see willy-nilly and we're going to try to figure out a way to get you to dang dell and been a significant thing we have the operations people hanging in the bottom and coming back and providing them medical transport

the 120 members will assist in the helicopter needs to land on beach and pick up someone saves us a long drive the helicopter is a great asset and times when the helicopters can not be demroshlt because of weather we retain the skills and in the rescue world a great education and tool this is the picture and in the world in san metra county we are the big player we continue the pitcher highway patrol happy valentine's day everyone and fires prevention investigation highlight the chart on page 9 and we had a,

you know, in the past be ticks in complaints war all baselines on codes and legislation held in abstention and was now active participate in the green water inspections and as you can see we kind of hit a peak in january and now the fire marshalls office is resolving those issues so i don't see any untoward hazards for us there. the fire marshall was busy in the month of january i'll highlight and the had many, many stakeholders meeting and was heavily involved in the legislation process at the city and state level with a couple of pieces of legislation that came um, out earlier but it was his job to turn it into

action policy on the ground and one of the key pieces of that was required for dwelling units to go behind existing building parallel on the west side of town with no assess and they were able to get an agreement from the board of supervisors to give us a 5 foot access and mandate when the fire code is written didn't anticipate the built in environment of the city of and san francisco it was a heavy lift but in the process will be adopted before the board of supervisors and had successful battery legislation push with the micro mobility devices and had meetings with everyone that is concerned about the businesses and or like

repair shops and able to craft a code that is earlier to all even people that initially were resistant and i want to highlight that effort. and going forward um, our relationship with mta and with the streetscape changes and our ability and respondents in the city to fight fires for every residents of the city he will equal and we have meeting get it on the record to streamline with the mace office that is one of the heavy lifts that is ongoing and a our report was successful and he's been working diligently on the planning in his shop and mentorship the and she was initiatives in particular and thank you for his work and chief dorsey is here running his fire

department essential at the airport. but has that his marine unit is back in operation and very the transition on the staff and continuity and training any airport and firefighter response vehicle operators so has the opportunity to staff more quickly and heavily involved in advocacy for health and safety of modern fire hydrant and they have an adopted product and will be one of the drivers in the mode you will when that come forward and also have been working with the operations and with the coast guard and good to see that continue and one of any

goals chief operations role reintegration with the city airport and quite a while since functional drills with multiple units responded from the airport and taking up with the staff and the collaboration with the existing chief and working well and look forward to that continuing long term. >> the division of training also very, very, very busy they had an issue with 5 recruits but passes their tests and the 1 hundred and three three recruit starting with one 37 and lost two for injury but working hard and in service training race krumd in-person training of field companies with a master evolution and going well enjoy

the treasure island stills and then over three weekends and the month we had um, our transdrills i don't if you have lined up at 2 clock not more than and opposing we do a functional experience and with the chief over and then working towards adoption of policy with that type of response. >> um, and i did want to highlight the work of bettering this go around had i'm on the weekends had to attend i'm stale firefighter in the field i go out and do drills and things like that and the happen upon a

in the interest of time saty 19 and fulton had all the classrooms filled with people doing ham operating classes and other classes they had a full house very well attend i can't thank the whole staff for the work they've putting into our program. thank you. >> thank you for your report deputy chief darius luttropp, operations. and at this time so we having ask madam secretary any public comment and there is nobody on the public comment line and nobody approaching the podium. >> fellow commissioners any questions for deputy chief darius luttropp, operations.? >> commissioners commissioner feinstein [off mic.] >> service for the helicopter training.

>> (laughter.) >> she's never won. >> i believe that actually (laughter). >> um, takes guts i have to say. so thank you, thank you for your report and um, yeah, the report on i've got to say it is everything that is going on, you know, from the airport to the dp i training a lot i don't know seems to be a new buzz or something that is all good is all good. and if anything things are getting better and more safe for our citizens. that's what we're about so- >> that's the goal yeah. >> congratulations to all. >> vice president fraser.

>> thank you what a great report thank you, deputy chief darius luttropp, operations. you filled in some of it and i'm on the way to concocted with the golden gate bridge for my birthday and the fire marshall report ask really, really interesting i report that shout out for that report also and made me laugh interesting. and auditorium with the lithium batteries i appreciate there is progress between, you know, people that are in that business and people concerned about that business and how we work together that was also really good and also thank you for

uplifting the in the interest of time i've about to a few things a wonderful organization and glad you lifted them up in the report and photo on page three 2 some little vehicle. >> oh, i forgot to highlight the vehicle. >> i wanted to ask you about so, please tell responsibilities as the caretakers of this place, as well as for all peoples who reside in their traditional territory. mow i left something off that is the zoning ordinance vehicle the thankful tried to be ahead of the game and working with that and able to provide training on that vehicle as you can see this vehicle didn't it look a car but a fish bowl. >> cruise right at the

transition of them losing their life insurance and invoking a permit would go to a similar vehicle just has we had been making great strides to not way for us to respond and run that which it is for the great but takes people away from tasks this has no driver controls we're into a new era and challenge. but it was i think a well received zodiac as a company and i'm sorry, i said i was going to share that protrude the blue eggshell thing and one other thing i failed to mention the chief and at command staff had a meeting with the council in january and one of the things

that was interesting attending i on saturday the chief in attendance and n e r t will be working with the council office to have targeted training for the community and in the area that's another thing move forward with kind of doing additional outside training that builds our program that gains interest and other people come and take the full program after guess abbreviated program. >> thank you. chief i see a lot of z o example k s in our neighborhood and yeah, so we'll there is a noticed the other day there was an autonomous vehicle parked at at stop sign we were approaching and the autonomous

vehicles pulled into the intersection a big huge motorcycle pulled up and honked his horn i thought there are other people who have certain amount of pockets that lit the one on fire in chinatown i've never seen that before but nothing to think with citizens have feel a lot of hostility towards the autonomous vehicles i'm not defending anyone but other people. thank you, again. >> i was go back was going to. >> happily a long waiting list. >> it's in the report there is communication they'll hear you screaming (laughter). >> thank you for that i want

to inject a little bit of history when the america automobile association was found more than one hundred years ago at the clint house san francisco it was because people were worried about horseless carriages and oh, my god modes of transportation don't have or drivers is how do you do that? up to some machinery and the thought that education regulations needed, collective wisdom is needed it is slot we find ourselves in right now. with autonomous vehicles and so i add that add that bit of history so- >> thank you. >> commissioner collins.

>> commissioner nakajo. >> very much president morgan. >> achieve a couple of multiple subject matters in terms of talking and talking about helicopters and helicopter training and when that opportunity occurs um, i definitely want to be there fellow commissioners dang league of women of why san francisco fire department last police department and didn't have a helicopter. i know that is a terrible time to talk about this because the budget but i want to put that out there i've thought that and with other jurisdictions police language whatever have helicopters and so

reminds me we talk about the drones i want to i want to put that out there. and no response um, other than i know we get invited on certain training that you do operationally i'll appreciate if we get a heads-up on the training. not rescues and dogs over the weekend trying to climb and come up when you have a surf i attend one year ago with the cliff house the members take that and really over the other thing is that transbay experience i know that is 2 o'clock or 3 o'clock that is

important to know about that take advantage of of that and at some power point empirical i wanted to find out in terms of investigation for the fire concluded in terms of that or given that fire and for myself i'm curious as to the issues of frequency of tent fires again, i cannot concern myself with that, i want to bring that up internally thank you, that mr. president. >> thank you commissioner nakajo. >> any other questions from the commission nasal i wanted to thank you for your report deputy chief darius luttropp, operations.. and you guys answered any question i was looking at this and trying to figure out what it was was that an alien landing you got

surrounded laughter yeah. those are autonomous vehicles are something else i agree with the sentiment of the rest of the commission so long we can fight them off and, you know, until they perfect they're contrast we want to make sure they do to safely not at the expense of public, you know, public safety and definitely not first responders. getting for the way of their duties so with that said, i appreciate the comments about that and other than that, i want to commend the firefighters that helped put out the fire on lowell street you, you guys did a good job and continue to do the great work.

that was a therefore be it resolved, thank god only one greater alarm. >> got to have nothing to talk about. >> (laughter) that. >> that was good news. >> that's because the firefighters are doing great work they- >> (multiple voices). >> yeah. >> thanks for making that point a lot of fires yeah. >> and so that's basically all i got and thank you for your great report deputy chief darius luttropp, operations. >> sure. >> next, i guess we're going to have chief sandra tong report on the ems and community paramedicine divisions. deputy chief sandra tong to report. >> good morning president morgan (coughing). >> good morning president morgan and vice president fraser and commissioner nakajo and

president morgan and commissioner collins deputy chief sandra tong my report for january. >> from the omc division sexual battery chief deputy chief sandra tong our january medics are near what a we need the in january our call volume was the same and market share about the same and continue to still have the e78s pilot ambulance looking for additional twenty-four hours plans in the system they take some of the call volume from us so we're still evaluating what the program will continue from the local but we're mostly seeing how long that is allowed to continue and was that impact is on the rest of system our timeline past increased a little bit from november and through december and in january. um, i think some of that is in regards

for the a pod those are the times that it takes when we arrive to hospital go until we transfer that patient if a journey that increased if december to january and the goal with a 90 percent of time 20 minute transfer time in november '34 or 2450i6 minutes that is still beyond the desired 20 minute time in december rose to 40 minutes that increases the amount of time the ambulance have at the hospital and unavailable for the next call that is something that is continually looked at certainly been a national issue a state and local issue as well will. we are not as impacted compared to some of the places in a southern california but still significant

and still impacts our ability to get on is streets that is a study done by our community they have with the hospitals and continue to keep us updated on what those look like. in terms of activities for the ems on january 8th started did 11 level two paramedic academy and 8 week academy and 5 recruits for in their valuation we expect want them to graduate and in the mill picture during the month of january self of the as you may know, division members participate in the digital story telling academy a three week academy we put on that pretty much that gave our members and professionals an opportunity to really learn how to utilize

digital devices and ways of being able to prevent a story use for photo to tell a story that is engaging and compelling and a tool we'll be able to use for our own purposes to sell like what is going to showcase what we do and also have we had a rescue captain who take that picture an experienced photographer so not surprised it is dynamic photo and tapped the members working on ems to prevent a compelling story about the work of our ems divisions and on january 22nd, our community member here mary presented 80 two documentation

checks and was there at the last commission meetings to speak about the impacts of fire that impacted her home the third alarm in december but graciously through commissioner nakajo set up a couple of donation so, thank you. >> again mary. >> in january accordingly to el savannah organization that is the captain children's foundation that 75 volunteers 12 of our sf d members of 49 and they brought doctors and nurses and dentists and over those 5 days 29 patients. and i wanted to read a story that he told us and share one of the challenges.

one chiej we and expect on day one before the clinic starts was as 18 wheeler crashes into the roadways 4 blocks from our clinic not only that that crashed into a telephone pole and making that impossible for the tour bus to drive through luckily our buses were shorter and once they unloaded returned to get the rest of us and equipment that is where the sfpd members unloaded all the equipment and ice chests and so forth and careful to direct other civilians to save place to walk around the wires i'm proud to see them accomplish this was really a challenging environment for all of them to work in and

so we're grateful for that. >> during the clinics the vitality signs and distributed mentioned and how to make how to use them and take them in spanish. so under the direction of the department for four of our members were interpreters and, of course, the department is proud of international spirits. under the community paramedics division adc the most county commissioner from what from oregon pr poland oregon met with april sloan and given a tour after the visit expressed

interest in the 308d staff for the further permits and programs. chief sloan attended the sfpd to communicate the call guidelines and issued to the officers helped to clarify the types call will be dispatched and changes what we can and cannot do and responding to residences and responding to juveniles and our ability to place 5 is/50 and shared the call volume and held our lower incidents of requesting pd back up with the unit out there able to handle situations the police have for the be able to do with their staffing issues and also not able to not having to

contact the police to assist. and then on january 10th, she was invited to speak to the ucsf and shared with them an overview of what necessary do and the street crisis team and one of the issues on the streets for the substance distorts and on january 19th in corroboration we hosted the ems data equity conference and focused on leveraging data to help with the hospital care the census was held on the santa fe and attracted over 120 agencies and 40 organizations and centered around the theme how we use data to understand and increase equity it is for professional service providers and industry

experts to explore but educational and interesting event so thank you to the donald trump distinction and michael for pursuing that and getting it funded there the cares division and is santa fe helped a big endeavor and we're proud of it as a result of the connections we made many attendees will continue to work together towards trying to move towards a equitable ems system and so we'll be doing with that sharing data and connect with each other and going on and how we're able to move towards. that. >> and here again, the safety programs and we continue to do great work with the data rfblths some of that and how we provide

those services one opportunity to help us to analyze the programs we have we have been chosen to participate in analysis one for ems and for improving the substance abuse ands those are 126 week programs by the mayor's office and the partnership companies to solve the problem. and the focus for the bridge fachls for ems how we determine which individual to engage and how we can quarreling measure the index program and the specific rich program for for the substance abuse for the department of public health department and pap the journey of substance abuse as they gave me the services and the goal for the cooperation of barriers and provides rapid access to services and we have not prepared the company for that

but ems pam we'll work with them and that's my report. >> it thank you, deputy chief sandra tong any public comment. >> nobody is approaching the podium and no one on the public comment line. >> thank you madam secretary and any questions or comments commissioners. >> vice president fraser. >> thank you deputy chief sandra tong very comprehensive i have a couple of questions. the first one being on page 11 of your report under those ems 6 and counter type a list of i guess counter types and number 1 the counter types of is conserve show of support i'm wondering if

i could explain that. >> the support we're asked to respond to a place to assist with and getting someone to provide the long communications and in particular month we didn't have any of the requests. >> okay. i see. and second question. the a pod time at a hospital; correct? >> so it is religion risen and the place we're taking folks are san francisco general and uk. >> index c. >> oh, really. >> and psychology emergencies. >> yes. they can receive them. >> okay. are we concerned at

all or am i ahead of myself with the purchase of st. francis and st. mary's we have used any concerns those will not be as available or more available? >> i don't know that will impact the vulnerability they're going to be operating fully licenses ers and just as available as they have. >> okay. thank you. >> last question sorry on page 13 about the police presence on scene. that is really interesting so looks like, you know, the police department is requesting quite a bit of help. i'm not saying this in a critical way it is needed by the

police departments and a good parts of time compared to others incidents they're there all right i know you've reported them before any increase or decrease. >> it is increased over the last couple of months not sure northerner in terms of our response but analyzing to see if there is anything we can point is that has increased with the numbers over the last month's. >> i've read police staffing is an issue in the city and many other cities we're for the unique i'm sure there there is a lot of back up that provides completely medical back up and psychotic back up but the stark difference in the numbers something you guys are on top

and looking at all the time. so um, and then the last thing the time the a pod time and people are looking at that i know would you say most of the time required because no staff or no nurses on the other end. >> it is availability so whether that is from staffing issue or um, i know one of the things that identified is a boarding issue maybe a capacity in emergency room they can't move them to others places in the hospital so they're kind of boarding patients so they don't have that availability to move that patient from one room to another.

>> no room upstairs but maybe rooms in the emergency department. >> right a patients through the emergency department and for more care you get discharged to another place then they need to be able to have a place for them to go if they don't have that place they basically are there until something is available it takes a necessary emergency bed because there is not smoefr for them. >> thank you appreciate you're answering my questions. >> any other questions. >> commissioner feinstein. >> president morgan. >> chief vice president fraser question just brought this to mind i'm wondering what we do about that or if there is a

solution to it. anyway to be for an ambulance that is transporting a patient to an er to know ahead of time the er is boarding people or didn't have room - you know, i know that there are times when general has gone on dedefying diversion i'm wondering if? not communication affixed to this you're point is well-taken about it is not being a good use of our that's a great question. a efforts to raise systems within the whole monitoring of patients

availability beds and ems after a certain number of ambulances how many are discharged and hanging around for a period of time that is a notice to the crews you should not go to that hospital but individual on an ems alerting by after so many on diversion you're stuck with 5 ambulance hospitals not available then you're bringing the patients to the ryan 5 i know that chief has been working on applications that is a way to better um, defying have i up and show the time the crews is say this hospital is impacted but those other hospitals have available beds and if it fits within the patients request and

their insurance we can take them there and much more realtime ems alert is realtime but based on medics that have not accurately reflective of the capacity it is long process i do think there are ways to better manage that um. >> and then ultimately some is about the hospitals being able to get the appropriate staffing, the right, you know, ratios and be able have to capacity to move patients where they need to go to better to accommodate those that need to come in. >> thank you, thank you >> thank you, commissioner feinstein any further questions. >> commissioner nakajo.

>> thank you, chief thank you very much for your report i want to acknowledge the ems and 12 members when respond to the kids foundation. just think that is is an it's been a long time coming. way to acknowledge that and make sure that as a general appreciation coming from myself i know my colleagues to the members of paramedicine and ems. thank you very much. and lastly, want to thank my dear friend for coming and documenting to asian firefighters. thank you. >> thank you, mr. president. >> thank you commissioner nakajo. >> piggyback on had you said thank you for your report deputy chief sandra tong i wanted to commend carlos martinez for his work abroad and all the

volunteers that were involved in it a special thanks and piggyback on what commissioner nakajo said thank you, mary thank you for your generosity and your support to the fire department. really appreciate it. thank you very much. >> and thanks for coming and . >> you know, and the whole japantown and commissioner - commissioner nakajo hsa had something to do with that (laughter). >> facilitating and organizing and thank you to commissioner nakajo for your great work that you do for the community and fire department of san francisco. so basically um, yeah that is all i got and also want to commend carla and chief sloan

for putting organ yeah portland oregon and the lately techniques and rescue theories and what have you ups the game we get a first in the city and it spreads out you know what i mean it starts in the bay (laughter) we have to lead the way so i think those programmers thank you for that and the chief so and that's all i have to say. and thank you for your report chief. >> discussion. discussion and possible action to adopt the fire department's operating budget for fiscal years 2024-2025/2025-2026. >> okay.

>> good morning, commissioners chief, deputy director mark corso, finance & planning. to give updates on our budget process so far and overview requesting approval of the strategy for our budget submittal i'll go over shortly and speak to it in what minute we're working on the details of the budget and the information that is included in our packet is posting ands kinds of things we're going to continue to work and minor chunks i'll highlight

on work orders and the staffing levels i want to stress no material or policy changes that are not presented before you and discussed today. so if any questions? please feel free to follow-up with that. >> a brief review of the oh, timeline highlighted this in the past few meetings but we have currently the department next week is looking at not just our department but departments submittal of departmental proposed budget to the mayor office by february 21st after that, we will be working closely along with other cities departments with the june 1st supplemental of a balanced budget by the mayor's office to the board of supervisors and after that time there will be hearing in a june and obviously be working with the mayor's office but with the various members of the board with the

budget and allergy staff analyst and wrap up in june and in july anticipated formal approval of the budget included it is the timeline for today we're requesting approval of the oral strategy to be submitted to the mayor's office any it's been a long time coming. issues that don't get resolved today, we we can up to the commissions request to have is a special meeting up to the submittal next week but please know we'll the submitting next week in contact with the mayors office and rapport back to the commission any pertinent updates or material changes. and. >> go ahead and we touched on that in the past meetings but just reiterating and getting

into the operational and fiscal yearly over the next couple of years the controller's office $900 million deficit the two year process we're talking about as a result of that deficit city departments to make a 10 percent reduction of city of jacksonville to the mayor's office with 5 percent contingency requested prefer fire that 10 percent is $12.4 million and so if you're looking at that 15 percent total that is $18.6 million. and we've touched on that in the last few minutes but are low be flexibility our budget for personnel costs port of front line emergency staffing a minute staffing or response time for fire suppression and ems and par

mention medication and directly support on the other hand, functions whether equipment medical supplies, fuel, etc. so we have very limited areas for reduction in the our budget and on top those ongoing, you know, daily operating cost have a huge infrastructure and defenders maintenance on facilities and out-of-date equipment and grappling with those on a day basis. so as parts of the our proposal and because of reasons i previously cite the department is not meeting the 10 or 15 percent mandated we feel a cutoff that size as a material impact on emergency services and through a comparison in under what those dollars look like we're talking about that 10 percent reduction that $12.4 million is closing four engine companies or also being

the equal of reducing 12 ambulances or also equals to eliminating all materials and supplies facility funding, and equipment in the departments budget that's the 10 percent if i include that additional 5 percent is 6 immune a huge operational impact for the equipment. >> we have incorporated no changes from employee mou we high-minded and other than the police and fire mou are up for that negotiation and small civilian staff those will be added but not materially our personnel costs are the main driver and modifications any

premiums a few changes incorporated with the working with the mayors office and the budget includes caltrans consist operational staffing levels we are not adding or sub alcatraz thing we're maintaining the status quo and building back the staffing levels we were not able to replace in the pandemic but still not to what a where we want to be and north two academy per year we're losing people through attrition and retirements going forward over the next few years and like to maintain those hiring schedules what it is too academies of two fiscal years that is four academies and sufficient back filling on the ems and

paramedicine to maintain the staffing levels we had before. in addition a couple of staffing changes on the fire prevention and deputy chief darius luttropp, operations. spoke to some of the changes in fire prevention obscuring the fire explodes state level and locally a few initiatives related to approve times for planned review and some firm alarm and sprinklers certification we require additional resources those resources proposing bye, bye fee revenue we feel those can supports themselves but in order to properly implement those pieces of election we feel we need additional resources. also xhubltd in the budget have a couple of staffing areas coming out of covid pandemic we were funded kind of our

collaborative efforts among other things the city with the dmp and mayor's office for notifies have alderman brookins ongoing coming out of pandemic we propose those continue to be funded in addition with the largest changes is some accumulations of additional revenue on the ambulance side. there have been over the past couple of years elective staff for federal revenues to have the reimbursement for pertaining to medi-cal and that is made significant positive impacts to - to our revenues over the past years and some happen one time but ongoing revenue we're projecting approximately $4.7 million increase to be ongoing a part of our proposal we'll talk about in a second and

in addition, we conducted cip increases for sea levels in the fee election on the ems that is one .9 percent for medical cip and medical fees is 4 percent for cip and a few minor classification that we are proposing millennial on the civilian side is he adjust the classification and some are approved we're formalizing those slow the budget. >> we're going to continue to work with the february deadline some is is technology but talking about those with the councilwoman mariaca office we

fwrarp with the overview deficit we talked about some of those of those reductions all departments are met still significant structural issues go beyond the department once they get a better idea how to manage those we'll get a better idea how to look at our budget we're continue to work with our other cities partners on various work orders and developing that during the mayor's phase and continuing to review overview for hiring for retirements and trying to firm up that model as we moved and continue to have internal discussions for the needs in the department even though the city is looking at significant expectative doesn't mean - we have infrastructure on the facility side and on the

equipment side and cost increase those are displayed they become more did the those conversations will continue with the mayor office and capital fleet through the mayors planning committee meetings will happen over the next month's i want to stress no policy major operational or policy changes different from before you before we submit our budget maybe some come up with the mayor's office that is after we submitted our budget. >> so that what are iowa we submitting for approval with the size and scope of reduction we're unable to meet them an operation continue to move forward work with the mayors office the next couple of months

with issues that pop up and emphasis you are needs and the reality of our staffing situation we want to make sure we are aroused for the different functions both, you know, standard but a lot of things come up florida in the last couple of years we've taken on but want to make sure we're successful. and then as always we don't just relate to this budget time but that looking at different ways to find external fvndz sources through funding that will continue through the department with that, open to any questions? >> thank you for your report deputy director mark corso, finance & planning. contaminate madam secretary is there any public comment?

>> there is nobody approaching the podium and no one on the public comment line. >> commissioners any questions or comments. >> commissioner nakajo. >> thank you very much. deputy director mark corso, finance & planning.. for your presentation. >> is this an action item this morning. >> yes. this will be to approve our strategy for submittal. >> what is the verbiage in terms of an action item we would - >> that would be to approve the departments um, yeah. >> fiscal year 2024-2025 and 2025-2026 operating budget submittal as presented to the fixing. >> it needs to occur by february 21st. >> that is when we are

essentially locked o of the budget system again what our budget are due to the mayor's office. >> if we do this action item do you know you don't see any anticipation of a special meeting required before that february 26th to date? >> not from the departments perspective but something from the commission couldn't get sufficiently answers up to the commissioners discussion but no perspective from me or my department. >> thank you deputy director mark corso, finance & planning. and command staff for the hard work and analysis terms of summary and again a dire straight situation for the department. and i as commissioner can't put in jeopardy our needs for those many years to build the

structural service i want to comment on that thank you, mr. president. >> i'll vote. >> thank you commissioner nakajo and any other questions commissioner collins. >> so when we if we give you approval of budget, we are pass employee approving the approach you be printed. >> some modification from a technical perspective but no policy changes no operational changes nothing would not have come before you. >> okay. thank you. >> vice president fraser. >> thank you president morgan my question about the requirement to prop ongoing reductions. in our general fund. >> yes. >> 10 percent in each year and

additional 5 percent for retention fee that's a lot. that is is a lot of money. so and i'm assuming it is true for all department of planning. >> correct. >> so how fire all 10 percent. >> yes. >> so our approval will include yeah. we're good for 10 percent no problem. >> we're for the proposing to meet it. >> oh, good thank you. if i may. >> deputy director mark corso, finance & planning. shows the mayor's office what it looks like a cut in front line services a cut in equipment, etc., etc. and why we can't meet that cut is untenable for the san francisco fire department to meet that cut they thinks that

we have have this wiggle room we're 90 percent salary and benefits but we still, you know, so we have that argument but also um, we also have such a huge need in terms of our rigs and infrastructure. and that is of enormous concern to us and me we do on a be able to do our jobs. so those are also conversations we're having. >> i i can't imagine the 4 percent in butcher are making up much of that thanks chief. thank you very much. >> at the vice president fraser anything further questions for any commissioners do i hear a motion to adopt this budget? >> i move approval.

>>. okay. i second. >> i vote, aye. >> vice president fraser, aye. >> commissioner nakajo, aye. >> commissioner feinstein, aye. >> the motion is unanimous. >> thank you. >> great. thank you for your report and deputy director mark corso, finance & planning.. at that time i'd like to adjourn if there is any other business we need to handle no? [off mic.] >> in the memory of. >> yeah. >> (multiple voices.) >> and ed. >> so we would like to adjourn the meeting but first, we'll have a moment of silence. for the chief. (moment of silence.) and i'll not adjourn the meeting (gavel) [meeting adjourned].

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two blocks over you're going to have golden gate park. there is japanese, chinese, hamburgers, italian, you don't have to cook. you can just walk up and down the street and you can get your cheese. i love it. but the a very multicultural place with people from everywhere. it's just a wonderful environment. i love the richmond district. >> and my wife and i own a café we have specialty coffee drinks, your typical lattes and mochas and cappuccinos, and for lunches, sandwiches and soup and salad. made fresh to order. we have something for everybody >> my shop is in a very cool part of the city but that's one of the reasons why we provide such warm and generous treats, both physically and emotionally

(♪♪) >> it's an old-fashioned general store. they have coffee. other than that what we sell is fishing equipment. go out and have a good time. >> one of my customers that has been coming here for years has always said this is my favorite store. when i get married i'm coming in your store. and then he in his wedding outfit and she in a beautiful dress came in here in between getting married at lands end and to the reception, unbelievable. (♪♪) >> the new public health order that we're announcing will

require san franciscans to remain at home with exceptions only for essential outings. >> when the pandemic first hit we kind of saw the writing on the walls that potentially the city is going to shut all businesses down. >> it was scary because it was such an unknown of how things were going to pan out. i honestly thought that this might be the end of our business. we're just a small business and we still need daily customers. >> i think that everybody was on edge. nobody was untouched. it was very silent. >> as a business owner, you know, things don't just stop, right? you've still got your rent, and all of the overhead, it's still there.

>> there's this underlying constant sense of dread and anxiety. it doesn't prevent you from going to work and doing your job, it doesn't stop you from doing your normal routine. what it does is just make you feel extra exhausted. >> so we began to reopen one year later, and we will emerge stronger, we will emerge better as a city, because we are still here and we stand in solidarity with one another. >> this place has definitely been an anchor for us, it's home for us, and, again, we are part of this community and the community is part of us. >> one of the things that we strived for is making everyone in the community feel welcome and we have a sign that says "you're welcome." no matter who you are, no matter what your political views are, you're welcome here. and it's sort of the classic san

francisco thing is that you work with folks. >> it is your duty to help everybody in san francisco. [♪♪♪] >> i really believe that art should be available to people for free, and it should be part of our world, you shouldn't just be something in museums, and i love that the people can just go there and it is there for everyone. [♪♪♪] >> i would say i am a multidimensional artist. i came out of painting, but have also really enjoyed tactile

properties of artwork and tile work. i always have an interest in public art. i really believe that art should be available to people for free, and it should be part of our world. you shouldn't just be something in museums. i love that people can just go there, and it is there for everyone. public art is art with a job to do. it is a place where the architecture meets the public. where the artist takes the meaning of the site, and gives a voice to its. we commission culture, murals, mosaics, black pieces, cut to mental, different types of material. it is not just downtown, or the big sculptures you see, we are in the neighborhood. those are some of the most beloved kinds of projects that really give our libraries and

recreation centers a sense of uniqueness, and being specific to that neighborhood. colette test on a number of those projects for its. one of my favorites is the oceanview library, as well as several parks, and the steps. >> mosaics are created with tile that is either broken or cut in some way, and rearranged to make a pattern. you need to use a tool, nippers, as they are called, to actually shape the tiles of it so you can get them to fit incorrectly. i glued them to mash, and then they are taken, now usually installed by someone who is not

to me, and they put cement on the wall, and they pick up the mash with the tiles attached to it, and they stick it to the wall, and then they groped it afterwards. [♪♪♪] >> we had never really seen artwork done on a stairway of the kinds that we were thinking of because our idea was very just barely pictorial, and to have a picture broken up like that, we were not sure if it would visually work. so we just took paper that size and drew what our idea was, and cut it into strips, and took it down there and taped it to the steps, and stepped back and looked around, and walked up and down and figured out how it would really work visually. [♪♪♪] >> my theme was chinese heights because i find them very beautiful.

and also because mosaic is such a heavy, dens, static medium, and i always like to try and incorporate movement into its, and i work with the theme of water a lot, with wind, with clouds, just because i like movements and lightness, so i liked the contrast of making kites out of very heavy, hard material. so one side is a dragon kite, and then there are several different kites in the sky with the clouds, and a little girl below flying it. [♪♪♪] >> there are pieces that are particularly meaningful to me. during the time that we were working on it, my son was a

disaffected, unhappy high school student. there was a day where i was on the way to take them to school, and he was looking glum, as usual, and so halfway to school, i turned around and said, how about if i tell the school you are sick and you come make tiles with us, so there is a tile that he made to. it is a little bird. the relationship with a work of art is something that develops over time, and if you have memories connected with a place from when you are a child, and you come back and you see it again with the eyes of an adult, it is a different thing, and is just part of what makes the city an exciting place. [♪♪♪]

>> good morning. welcome to february 14 meeting of budget finance committee. i'm supervisor chan and will be joined by supervisor mandelman and we have supervisor melgar. our clerk is brent julipa and i thank sfgovtv for broadcasting. >> please ma