thank you. >> that of these the last public comment. >> thank you. >> how about commissioner. >> item no. 6 - consent agenda - action item. >> xorgz. >> thank you for the presentation at that hour (laughter) i appreciate it. i have a concern. that (captioning is ending at this point due to the time limit provided for captioning)

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is correct. okay. and is this a new division that you started or are there, uh, examples of other facilities in which you have done this in yet with, uh, private hospitals? no this would be the first time for ucsf health. oh, okay. okay. uh that's helpful. uh, would you be open? um, i, i do believe, like, um, uh, commissioner chung had said that there is value to prop q and stating clearly what you had all declared to us as we declare, whether it is or is not, uh, uh, beneficial, uh, or detrimental, depending on which way you want to actually, uh, state the uh, resolution in the future. uh, and, and, uh, even though it is not binding, it is often cited as being the public, uh, position that was taken. so so, uh, uh, we, you know, don't stop you from working, but we

are holding you accountable. and the public arena for certain items. so we really appreciate the collaboration that you are talking about with the other hospital programs. and uh, staffing. uh to concerns that we have had here. uh, and we're wondering if, uh, you would be open to then, uh, us, uh, specifying more, more, uh, in detail a reporting mechanism back to the commission, which would then help, uh, also understand the progress being made. yeah. i think we should have our staffs work together to figure out what's the most meaningful way to do that. um, i certainly think that given, um, the fact that ucsf is a public institution, there's a lot of reporting we do in general that is public, that may or may not be satisfactory to you. so we

can certainly, um, have our teams collaborate and see what the right level of reporting is. but we are a public institution and we have no, uh, we have no qualms about being transparent about how we're performing. okay. yeah. no, i think the issue would be how we're performing in terms you're performing in terms of the key transaction. and now i think we need to add the mental health programs, uh, into this because, uh, uh, as, as we're doing this integration that would, uh, help us and the public understand that, uh, uc is carrying out the , uh, intent that they have here . or if not, then why not? uh, so, uh, which is different than, of course, public reporting to regular agencies. so i really would appreciate that. uh, sure. uh i do have some, uh, suggestions, which i will, uh, uh, provide to the secretary

later in terms of the, uh, different whereases, especially in light of the discussion going on here, uh, as we, uh, uh, look at the, uh, resolution, unless you want it to take some of those now, but, uh, i, i think it would be good to see a revised resolution with some of the suggestions that i've already submitted. and uh, which the commission also has spoken to and may wish to also submit, uh, prior to us, uh, coming together again. and i think it would be good that we work this with uc and saint mary's, uh, saint francis to be sure that, uh, it can be acceptable to everybody, commissioners, due to the time i suggest that we do the wordsmithing of the resolutions via email, and then you all can discuss at the next meeting, since we have other things we have to get to as well. i have no problem with that. and i think we would like to see several iterations of this, uh, to be sure that everybody's, uh, uh, desires are

actually then, uh, added in and that we also have a consent, uh, or if not, at least know where the dissent may be from. um, uh, the, uh, parties involved. commissioner guillermo, thank you. um there's, uh, i know that there's limited time, uh, because everybody's hungry, but i did want to be able to, um, make some comments. i'm not going to address the infrastructure or legal issues, uh, at this time. uh there's plenty. i'm sure that you're subject to with the ag, uh, alone. uh, and so although it is a question that i have in terms of what is the impact of anything, the ag might have to say with the with this acquisition relative to the comments that you've heard, uh, from folks today? uh, but i do want to say, as somebody who is affiliated with, uh, dignity health, uh, and common spirit until just recently, uh, and

knowing, uh, how hard uh, both entities were, uh, worked over the years, uh, to come together sincerely to serve the interests of san francisco, but also being very realistic about the impacts of the health care delivery system that both of these entities represent, particularly in california and particularly in san francisco. so probably the most complex, uh, and the most difficult set of, uh, issues and problems to solve. um, uh, throughout the country in terms of what we're facing now. and so, uh, it would be difficult to try to hold, uh, any sincere effort, uh, at this to conditions that we don't know, uh, are that, uh, that might we might face in the future. uh, but i do believe that with what you said today, uh, and what you commit to, um,

is sincere. uh, and i do know that that, um, there is support from the founding sisters of saint mary's for this, uh, and, uh, the medical staff, uh, previous owners of saint francis , uh, to this, uh, acquisition. so want to support, um, what the historic local, um, uh, interests and stakeholders, uh, have, uh, because they are still around, and so they are. it's not like they're sort of some historical, uh, um, artifact that doesn't exist. but the reality of what the needs are in san francisco, uh, and what, uh, the excess capacity that can be created from this acquisition mission, uh, has more promise than detriment. i believe. uh, notwithstanding all the concerns around seismic and the costs that that's going to, uh, hold,

uh, being able to maintain license, uh, quality and safety standards, uh, for the kinds of, um, patients that that you're going to be increasingly seeing. i think, uh, at both sites, particularly the uninsured, uh, the medi-cal and the medicare, most vulnerable populations in san francisco, which historically has been the mission of both saint mary's and saint francis and i hope to see, uh, that mission, uh, expanded, uh, throughout the uc system. uh, that's operates at least here in san francisco. so my understanding and my experience from past, uh, involvement in, uh, hospital system mergers is, um, i guess as well as hospital mergers, uh, has to do with and being able to maintain the integrity of the intent, uh, to increase access, improve quality , uh, and safety has been, uh, the difficulty in the cultural,

uh, merger, uh, between entities . ucsf is a academic institution and operates in a certain way that is not antithetical, uh, to community hospitals, but certainly is not familiar to, uh, and so i do think that that culture that is embedded in the mission of the hospitals is something that really can't be taken lightly. uh, when, uh, dignity health and, um, uh, chc merged into common spirit. one of the things that was done was a cultural audit, uh, that really tried to level set the missions, uh, of both entities and so i would offer that as something that you might want to take a look at and see where there are, uh, opportunities for, uh, that culture and that, uh, sense of mission to align even more, uh, definitively, really glad to hear that, uh, that there won't be any change

in the staffing, the workforce, and in fact, there might be expansion. i do have questions about whether leadership will be able to maintain their leadership roles, because the history of, uh, the leadership, i think, at both hospitals, uh, uh, is one of wanting to serve the community very, very deeply and often times without any reward, uh, and without any acknowledgment, uh, and often with a lot of criticism. um, uh, so, uh, that is something that we, you know, again, uh, hope to see, uh, even though and, and i think that the last thing that i'll say is the opportunity for saint francis and saint mary's to finally, now merge their data , their operations, uh, their i mean, this is decades. maybe i think, given how old the hospitals are, uh, a centennial sort of event, to have the two hospitals be able to now it's an

opportunity to merge, uh, truly, uh, under the, uh, um, the opportunity that, um, are presented with this merger. so there's still a lot of questions. uh, and we would still like to see, uh, a lot of, um, uh, information about how this is going to happen, uh, and regular updates, maybe not quarterly, but certainly, uh, quite regularly, particularly after the ag weighs in. uh, and so, um, just want to voice, uh, i know this was probably a longer comment than anybody wanted or expected, but, uh, it's a once in a lifetime opportunity to talk about, uh, uh, these historical hospitals, uh, saint mary's in particular. for me, i had sisters that were born there, uh, in the old hospital, uh, so, um, uh, wish you all the best of luck. uh, but please, uh, take what you have heard and what you will be hearing very, very seriously. uh, and we will hold you, uh, to

the extent that we possibly can. and the community will for sure, uh, hold you accountable to the promises that you make and to the missions that you want to accomplish. thank you. thank you. actually, commissioner gilmore, now that you've been so eloquent, i get to say less so. so we really we realize as you've given this presentation, how much work has gone into this, how much collaboration? i think, um, when you said intentional, um, i think a lot of things have maybe happened without this kind of forethought and this kind of, um, interest in maintaining the cultures. um, commissioner gilmore was talking about saint mary's. i have a office mate who 70 years ago, her dad was only given privileges as a chinese surgeon at saint mary's. everybody else turned him down for privileges and i have a son who is in the burn unit at saint francis for three weeks, about a year and a half ago. so, you know, these are critical hospitals. many members of the community have had very positive experiences and, you know, we'd like to

maintain that. and i think the aspect of culture, especially for the community, because we all realize that you absolutely need more beds. and it makes perfect sense that an inpatient perspective. but as others have said, you know, the outpatient component of this is something we are concerned about, especially the mental health, the medi-cal and some of the patients who, you know, have been hearing about blue cross annual, um, issue with you seem worried whether, you know, well, now they not be able to go to saint francis, saint mary's too. so some of these things, i think are, are worth, um, uh, explaining in greater detail. so um, we will we will, uh, recraft the resolution with a commissioner chao's recommendations and some of the wording, as well as some of the concerns about the, uh, medi-cal and the mental health and, um, we will, um, uh, we probably would appreciate some kind of update both from our df staff as well as you see, perhaps every six months for the first two years, we can we can talk about what works both for the df and for uc. and uh, and saint

mary's, saint francis. but um, obviously we've heard from many stakeholders who are enthusiasts in favor. and so i suspect the resolution that we have at our next meeting will be positive. so we will, um, we will proceed from there. and we're so grateful for everyone's staying at this late hour and for all the information you shared with us, thank you so much. yeah, i also, um, wanted to thank everybody involved in this effort, including the df, um, policy and planning team, ucsf dignity. um, and really for being open to, um, the comments from the community and the commission to ensure that we are providing the best health care in san francisco, which i know we already do, but we always can do better. so thank you. thank you. all right. well i guess we go to our next agenda item, which is the laguna honda hospital and rehabilitation. rehabilitation center closure plan and cms recertification update for mr. pickens. oh, good evening again, commissioners.

pleasure to be back with you. um, to provide you with this update on the status of, uh, cms recertification for laguna honda hospital next slide. as you recall, we had our medicare recertification survey in early december of 2023. uh, that survey served as the, uh, required, uh, second medicare care recertification survey, um, used in that the medi-cal survey from august of that year served as our first medicare survey. so we completed what's known as the reasonable assurance period, uh, when we had that certification in december, uh, as we shared before, those results, uh, showed significant improvement over our prior cms monitoring surveys with overall findings and lower scope of severity. consequently, um, we, um, drafted and submitted plans of

correction to california department of public health on january 13th and 17th, respectively. uh, those plans of correction, uh, have been reviewed by the california department of public health and have been sent to cms for their review and is what they are currently, uh, next slide. thank so it's a it's important to note that at this time we are not yet recertified in the medicare program. uh, the next step is for cms. and, uh, to approve the plan of correction that is forward to them. uh, then cms and cdc will then state that we have successfully completed the plan of correction. and then based upon that, cms will then make a determination as to whether or not laguna honda is certified. uh into the medicare program. uh, once again, so, as

you can imagine, we, uh, remain laser focused on medicare recertification at this time. and our long terme sustainability of the corrective actions and all the processes that have improved over the last two years. so. sorry okay. uh, next slide. okay so, uh, also would like to, uh, update you on the status of discharge of residents who no longer require skilled nursing level of care. you will recall, from march of last year, 2023, we received specific, uh, direction from the department of health and human services, uh, to begin to, uh, uh, discharge the residents who no longer met skilled nursing, uh, level of care and had skilled nursing leave, uh, needs

. uh, we have been our teams at laguna also, including the department of homelessness and, uh, supportive housing and our, uh, department of aging and adult services as well. all come together and starts initiating those, uh, discharges in april of last year, there have been a total of 22 laguna residents who still needs discharge to community. and currently, there are 45 currently laguna residents in that category of no longer requiring skilled nursing care. next. so that concludes my update. uh, to the commission. as always, we, uh, provide a jc, uh, a much more detailed update and, uh, and as you know, uh, those updates are reported to you, uh, via, uh, the chair of the laguna honda. jc happy to, uh, take questions or comments

at the appropriate time. thank you. thank you so much. is there any public comment? yes. we've got two hands. uh, jaime, please unmute. uh, caller ten. caller ten please, please let us know that you're there. hi. it's doctor palmer. um, my question is that we've been told, um, at these meetings that even when the hope for medicare recertification occurs is a full readmissions will not resume. and we need, uh, the people of san francisco need to know what is the plan for resumption of admissions and one health commission meeting? there was something called a sustainable transition plan mentioned. and there are also references to tiered readmission as well. what does that mean? what will the tiered system san franciscans in need have a right to know how long they must await a bed. we also need to know what is the

written plan for outreach to survivors of the victims. um, last time it was will be a plan. well, what is the plan? and we need outreach to san franciscan sports out of county for, uh, nurse home during this nearly two year closure. what is the plan for outreach to out of county? uh, san franciscans that were forced to go to stiff far away from friends and family. it's also notable that there is a class action suit on behalf of laguna honda residents. now being pursued. expert testimony attested decades of that government under multiple mayors health commissions and directors of health. how will the governance of laguna honda change so that this institution does not return to business as usual? once the regulators back off of this whole process has

been agonizing, we can't afford to repeat it. we need our public nursing home. um, do we need, uh, to make changes? um, do we need to have the board of supervisors weigh in on the governance, please advise. all right. um, thank you. uh, please unmute. caller seven. pretending his problems with regulatory compliance will eventually, magically straighten out on its own will not solve laches noncompliance with regulations as i testified on february 13th, 2020, for each health commission member must read the christopher cherny declaration filed in superior court case cps 25 17064 involving the tommy thompson et al. lawsuit supporting making it a class action case in an upcoming court proceeding. on may 24th, 2024. chinese

declaration is a damning indictment of this health commission's collective, abject failures as lhhs governing body between 2019 and 2024, involving lack patient sexual abuse scandal in 2019, page 13. attorney's declaration stated that 2019 lh 60 day reform. plan authored by grant colfax and troy williams failed because lh failed to address its colossal failures of governance and management. this commission failed, providing meaningful governance. we have to consider. whether this health commission's failures and inaction as lhs's governing body, will serve as a lesson to effect meaningful change of you as health commissioners, leicester continued failures, permanent lack stefan cisco's board of supervisors must act to enact some other independent oversight of governing lh. since this commission has failed to provide actual governance of close to 20

years, turning finger for commissioners who served during the 2019 patient abuse, sex scandal, including commissioners edward chao, cecilia chung, lori green and tessie guillermo, who each remain health commissioners to this day. let's not forget former health commission president dan bernal, who recently resigned, and i agree with doctor palmer. shame shame on each of you. as health commissioners who have contributed to this decades long problem at lh. okay, that is it. are there any commissioner questions or comments on the laguna honda report? all right. uh, seeing none, we will go to the directors report. well, good evening, commissioners. um, grant colfax, health director, you have the director's report in front of you. um, i would ask

you to refer to read it. there's lots of stuff going on in the department. um, just really quickly. great event. um, with the san francisco foundation in a couple of weeks ago, several key leaders honored, including doctor hammer, uh, the best team, and, uh, doctor andre campbell, um, incredible leaders in health. and i also just wanted to call your attention to a lot of, uh, work, um, and events of the department has been supporting or attending or partnering on with regard to, uh, black history month. um, obviously, i'm happy to answer any other questions, but wanted to, um, respect the commissioner's time tonight. thank you. thank you. is there any public comment on the director's report? i see no hands. any commissioner comments or questions? all right. seeing none, we will go to the joint conference committee report from laguna honda commissioner guillermo. okay, i'll make this

very short. uh, we received the executive team report as, uh, you have, uh, so it was essentially the same. we uh, uh, had an air, uh, update and, and, um, we're using were you waving goodbye? oh, okay. um, and, um, the, uh, uh, in closed session, we reviewed the, uh, report, and, uh, the credentials report. and if i may add, the committee recommended that the full commission approve the two items on the consent calendar. um, yes . that's all upcoming. is there any public comment on the laguna honda report? yes. there's one hand, uh, jaime, please unmute. caller seven. as i testified on february 13th, 2024, you must each read attorneys tommy thompson lawsuit declaration because on page eight, he asserted lhs's regular

deficiencies were rare in scope and severity for sneff primary do this governing body's abject failures. on page 30, cherney asserted the $30.6 million in resulting consulting fees, legal fees. i am not hearing, okay, that's the end of the comment. thank you. all right. then the next item is the consent calendar. and you have before you the items we, um, have been recommended by the jcc to approve. and i gather we need a motion for approval. i so move to approve the consent calendar. second, any public comment on the consent calendar? i see no hands. i'm going to give it 10s. there's a hand. uh, jaime, please unmute. caller seven.

please begin. mr. minute, i see your hand, but i'm not hearing anything. obviously, when any patient's wheelchair becomes inoperable, whether a personally owned facility provided a standard or custom wheelchair due to needing wheelchair repairs, there, at risk of losing their mobility and in many cases essentially become bed bound, reduced to being unable to get out of bed. there have sometimes been reports of patient wheelchairs malfunctioning without repairs for weeks at a time. indeed, i recall that cms cdf issued citations against lh before, during and after lh was decertified in april 2022, alleging lh was neglecting patients health care because their inoperable wheelchairs weren't being repaired in a timely manner. while this health commission is theoretically barred from interfering in lh day to day operations, this

commission should nonetheless recommend that any and all lh wheelchair policies and procedures include strong language that wheelchair repairs should receive number one priority for use of the lh patient gift fund to patients. fund wheelchair repairs. all right. thank you. all right. so we'll do roll call. vote yes. uh, commissioner chao. yes commissioner. limo. yes, commissioner. green. yes, commissioner. gerardo commissioner. christian. yes. and commissioner chung. yes. the items on the consent calendar have been approved. thank you. now, i wonder if i can have permission, perhaps to put off the community and public health committee update. do any of the commissioners have hesitancy? is that all right? yes. all right then we will table that to the next meeting. and now we'll ask if there's any other business, any public comment, any public comment for other business item 13 being a second, i see no

hands. all right. we'll entertain a motion to adjourn. so moved second allowed the roll call vote. we'll start with commissioner chao. yes mr. chung ? uh, yes, commissioner. christian. yes, commissioner. gerardo yes, commissioner. guillermo. yes and commissioner. president. green. yes. thank you. thank you everyone. everyone.

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police accountability. hello, everyone. welcome. happy valentine's day. i know it's so great to be here on valentine's day. i know i specifically requested this day so that we could all be together on this special day. and the rain are makes it extra special. extra um, exactly. okay, so we have a pretty decent agenda, so let's get going and, um, hopefully get out of here at a decent hour line. item one weekly officer recognition certificate presentation of an officer who has gone above and beyond in the performance of their duties. sergeant anthony searcy, star number 1054. knight investigations unit. good evening. my name is jacqueline sellinger and i am the lieutenant assigned to the knight investigations unit. i would like to take a moment to express my gratitude to the president. elias, the commissioner, chief scott, and the executive director henderson, for the opportunity to recognize the exceptional

work done by the men and women of the san francisco police department today, it is my honor to present sergeant anthony searcy, a member of my own team, as a new lieutenant to niu. i have only known sergeant searcy for a short period of time. however within that brief period, i quickly realized what an exemplary investigator he is and that he is a huge asset to the night investigations team sergeant searcy is a 13 year veteran of law enforcement with almost ten years of experience with sfpd. he joined the department as a lateral officer from novato police department. he was recruited by his father in law, retired sfpd officer john ruggerio. his star number was handed down three generations from his grandfather in law to his father in law to him, and has been in the family since 1952. sarge sakai's brother, is also a police officer with the petaluma police department. his previous

assignments were northern station, mission station. on patrol. he worked as a homeless resource officer and then a housing officer. he worked at southern station, midnights and also as a field training officer before joining the plainclothes team. being a 35 car for the last five years, he was at southern station. his awards are he was he received were officer of the year, southern station. he received investigator of the year from the night investigations unit 2023, a silver medal of valor from saint luke's hospital for an ois in 2015, and several captain commendation awards. complimentary awards. sergeant sharkey became part of the niu after his promotion as sergeant in 2022, and i believe his work speaks for itself. niu is tasked with investigating serious violent crimes, which may also still be active scenes. when the investigators arrive. these unique situations require these

investigators to think tactically and quickly on their feet, while also thinking strategically to achieve the best outcome possible for the investigation. in these areas. i believe sergeant sharkey naturally excels as he is a great multitasker and he is also able to remain composed under the most stressful conditions. i reviewed several significant investigation conducted by sergeant sharkey, and that was thanks to his team, who chose to ten of his greatest investigate actions. so we call it success. ten greatest hits. um, so we don't have time to go over all of them, but we did select one. and here's a synopsis of one of one of his cases. how much time do you have? um, officer responded to a shooting in the area of post and jones, the victim was seated inside of his vehicle when he was shot from the outside of his car. sergeant sharkey identified the suspect of the shooting after reviewing

over 300 items of video surveillance, identifying significant evidence and having it analyzed, analyzing call detail records, conducting numerous hours of physical surveillance, and more, sergeant sharkey coordinated a pre-planned operation to apprehend the suspect and serve a search warrant on the residence during the operation, investigators conducted physical surveillance on the suspect. during that surveillance, the suspect got into a new vehicle and drove away from his residence. so sergeant sharkey continued to lead the operation, and the suspect was taken into custody. after a brief foot chase, the suspect was in possession of a loaded glock firearm at the time of his apprehension. additional evidence was also located at the suspect's residence during the subsequent search warrant service, served by sergeant sharkey. this is just one of many great investigations sergeant sharkey has conducted in his time at the nine investigations unit. not only is he a great investigator,

sergeant sharkey comes to work with a positive attitude and always offers his assistance to anyone who needs it. he is reliable and i can count on him to handle any major investigation. as i know he is able to adapt to any situation soon. i am honored to be your supervisor and love having you as part of my team. thank you sergeant sharkey for your hard work and dedication to the san francisco police department and this city, san francisco is safer due to your unwavering commitment to excellence. and with that, i present to you the certificate of recognition from the police commission. sergeant welcome. i'm not much of a speaker. i'll keep it short. um thank you for everyone that had something to say or something to do with nominating me for this award. it's much appreciated by virtue of our unit as my lieutenant has described, it's not often that we are in the

spotlight. we handle a lot of our cases from start to finish and keep a lot of it in-house, and that's just by the nature of most of our investigations. and sometimes it is good to have the spotlight on our unit. um as she mentioned, team uh, speaking of unit, this whole operation with we're small, it's maybe 12, 12 people. and any one of these cases, we do is not going to be successful without the help of the whole team. everyone always takes a part. if one of us has a case. sure. you have a primary or assigned investigator, but it's everybody. anybody from our night investigations unit could be up here receiving this. this same award. um i have to thank my family most importantly, my wife, my dad, my kids, my son who's not here. he's a little more energetic than most. uh, i can't imagine or i can't remember the last time i worked a regular shift without adding time on the front, time on the back, getting called in, having some case development. and every time i call my wife, it's, hey,

can we get babysitting? and it's always win. what day? oh, today and win right now. and i, uh, i don't remember any time that she ever said no. she's always made it work. um so with that, i just say thank you very much. appreciate it. oh, no. no, you got to stay up. come on and stay up here. not done. you're not done. now. now we get to talk to you. first of all, lieutenant, thank you for the introduction. that was a great introduction and giving us background on the sergeant. i think you did a really great job of telling his story and introducing him to us. so thank you for that. um, sergeant, i want to say, obviously, thank you for your hard work, but more importantly, i want to say thank you to your wife and to your family because, um, as you described and so eloquently, it's you're able to do your job because of them. and, you know, the missed dinners, the missed holidays, the missed night time putting kids to bed, all of those things

are things that you've sacrificed in order to do your job and to keep the city safe. and i don't think that people really appreciate or recognize that, um, or. uh, the fact that, you know, i'm sure some wives want to have their husbands home . so, um, so thank you to, to not only to you, but to you and to your family as well, and to your kids. so thank you for being the solo parent. most of the time, i'm assuming, um, it's a huge, huge task. and so for that, i commend you. and i thank you. and i appreciate all that you've done in order to allow him to do what he does. so thank you. product of another sfpd officer and only no, that's the only way i was raised. yeah, yeah, she's used to it. and you have really big shoes to fill. i was like, goodness, yeah. long road, 1952 1952 52. right. okay yeah. so great job. and thank you for the team for coming to support him. it's really nice and beautiful. i think to see just your colleagues there to always have your back and be

there and be present. so thank you to all of you as well. commissioner walker. thank you. um, i echo your input, um, on this president elias, the work that you all are doing. uh, thank you, lieutenant, for the great introduction. and thank you for the work. the nights are challenging, and, you know, the family being so supportive, the immediate family, but also the historic family. yeah. um it is so important. there's so many in our our ranks that have family that have been here for the san francisco for the city for decades. and we really appreciate that. the hard work you do, um, i'm sure that you don't get thanked enough so thank you for what you do. and i'm glad that we could honor you here. thank you. commissioner thank you very much. president elias. uh, congratulations, sergeant. um, you should feel very proud. and we're so glad we

were able to recognize you, too. um, and as well as the work of the whole unit, i want to thank president elias. we've uh, for both bringing this program forward, but also making sure that we go out of our way to recognize both, uh, uh, our station patrol officers. but also officers and units that the public might not get a chance to hear from or to know about quite as much. and thank you, lieutenant sellinger, for that intro. i wonder if i might call lieutenant sellinger back up to introduce the other members. uh, of the of the unit that have that have appeared here to support you tonight as well. great kevin, they're never going to come back again. we have ryan hart. he's the sergeant. uh, so they're all sergeants. um, heidi morales. mike, honey. kevin byrne, and it's his birthday today. happy birthday. happy birthday. adrian payne. i have valentine's day chocolate. the sergeants welcome to have one. have one for his birthday. but uh, thank you. uh, thank you to

all of you for. oh, there's more. please continue. um. labson. jay labson, adrian payne and terrence saw. thank you very much to all of you. from that investigations unit. it's, uh, we really, you know, this commission really appreciates the immense burden and the immense ask that we put on our officers, uh, particularly in the specialized units like, like the night investigations unit. and so you have our gratitude. uh, i've attended enough, uh, academy graduations to be familiar with. they always like to quote mike nevin, who says that your badge shows you trained you, and the name, uh, says, who raised you in your case, sergeant? it's a little bit of both. since your badge indicates the multiple generations, but i also think if i were to critique the sergeant nevins quote, is that the name also isn't just eurasia, but it's who's at home and who's supporting you and who's making sure that you're there and have that support system able to function. and you've done great honor to both. so

congratulations. thank you. commissioner thank you very much to our president, uh, cindy ellis, first of all, i want to thank, uh, sergeant, uh, sharkey for all you have done here for us. and i'm very happy that we got you from novato. so um, thank you for all your hard work and keeping us safe. uh, you're an asset to the san francisco police department, including the team as well. uh, i want to thank your lovely wife and daughter. happy valentine's day, as they would say, nowhere else. um continue your hard work. uh, i also want to thank the chief for bringing up this, uh, the weekly officer recognition. um, if we did not have this award, i'd. you know, there's. we would not have known about all your hard work and have yet done throughout the years here. so continue to your success. and chinese, continue your rise. thank. you. thank you very much. thank you. uh thank you, president elias. i just this came to be because the

commission listened to the command staff when they met with them. so i just want to thank the commission for making this happen. um, to sergeant saki and the entire niu team. just for the public. you know, these are these are the folks that when things happen overnight, late at night, the they respond and, you know, this is one of many, many outstanding, uh, case cases that the niu handles and just to mention another one, just to give you an idea, the shooting that happened on father's day at the embarcadero, it was these fine sergeants that were out there on father's day to get that started and actually take it all the way to an arrest and several arrests on that case. so they do great work. so i just want to thank you, sergeant turkey and your family. i know how hard it is when and he's always getting called out and has to work over and it's really hard on the family and you all make it work and your team makes it work and just we appreciate all the work that you all do, because it's not just this. it's

over and over and time and time again. so thank you. thank you, chief commissioner yanez. thank you. uh president elias, uh, thank you, sergeant saki. uh, you know, your due diligence, your attention to detail, it's in the dna. we can tell. and hopefully your son is going to join the squad at some point. thank you for it. thank you for joining our team. and uh, for keeping the night. uh, you know, as as safe as possible. thank you. really appreciate it, commissioner byrne. thank you, president elias. um, i just, uh, i want to commend, uh, you, uh, the night investigations. you you don't get to sleep in your bed while everybody else is, and, uh, i think that my wife worked a few night shifts when we got married, and i saw what it did to her, and, uh, i admire your adaption to being night owls or vampires or whatever. um, whatever. but i know it takes a tremendous toll on your body and on family life because i remember when my wife did it.

so uh. uh uh, very much appreciated. and i think it goes underappreciated all the time. thank you. thank you. and since you know you're here already, if you want to stay for the entire commission meeting, you're more than welcome. yeah, yeah, we work tonight anyways. yeah and public comment is that you can stay and you can talk for three minutes. public comment. well, thank you again. we do appreciate it. there's candy if you want some. thank you. all right. thank you. give it to the chief to give her. yeah. oh great. i can read the headlines now. commissioner throws things, assaults police officers. no doubt that was a thank you. it was a sinker. a sinker i great. now you're going to get arrested, kevin. for any member of the public that would like to make public comment regarding line item one, please approach the podium. sergeant, so i want

you to slip on. can i just clarify something first? are we allowed to talk about. don't 9.07 um, this is only only public comment regarding the officer weekly. oh, gotcha. okay congratulations. staff and present. last. there is no public comment. all right. line item two, general public comment at this time. the public is now welcome to address the commission for up to two minutes on items that do not appear on tonight's agenda, but are within the subject matter jurisdiction of the police commission, under police commission. rules of order. during public comment, neither police or dpa personnel nor commissioners are required to respond to questions by the public, but may provide a brief response. um, comments or opportunities? i'm sorry. alternatively, you may submit public comment at either of the

following ways. email the secretary of the police commission at sfpd. commission at sf gov. org or you may write written comments to the us postal service to the public safety building located at 1245 third street, san francisco, california, 94158. if you would like to make general public comment, please approach the podium. so i and many, many others oppose your plan to reduce traffic or any other enforcement of laws by our police cars failing to signal while turning broken headlights, etc. are violations in order to keep people on the road safe. you're banning enforcement of them is a tacit approval of making driving on our roads less safe. are you going to instruct sfmta to stop ticketing for expired registration since we're not enforcing them? why do you think two sets or two different applications of the laws are okay? but the main and most important reason this commission should not even be considering this plan is because it is a

massive overreach of your authority. you are not legislators and you do not have the authority to make or unmake the law. don't like the law? then go through the proper legislative process to get it changed and committing these violations is currently illegal. but if you ban police from enforcing them, you are effectively making them legal. this is a blatant attempt to bypass the legislative process. you're outrageous and knowing abuse of your positions will put our sfpd officers in a precarious legal and ethical position, because they are sworn to uphold the laws. and you want to instruct them not to enforce them. it is not the role of this commission to decide what laws are or are not to be enforced, and is certainly not your role to instruct police officers not to do what they took an oath to do, which is enforce the law and protect citizens. as usual, this commission has an inflated sense of self-importance and a vague notion of some type of wrong. they would hope to correct by grasping at a solution that will not only fail to solve the

perceived problem, but will assuredly create a whole host of others for a police commission. you sure do seem to enjoy skirting the law yourselves, or at least attempting to. isn't it a little hypocritical since that that's what you accuse sfpd of all the time? how is that possible? obstruction of justice charge from brooke jenkins sitting with you after your last overreach attempt. maybe you should follow the law. good evening. happy valentine's day. um, first, i just want to say it was really nice to see that family here. and that officer. and i'm super proud of our sfpd. um, and i also wanted to, uh, raise the issue of the pretextual traffic stops, which, uh, the, the california state legislature has declined to pass

. sorry. is there something going on? uh, has has declined to pass legislation that prevents police officers from making pretextual traffic stops. so this body does not have the authority to override california state law. this body is not an elected legislature and therefore our i think this body should stop. i understand you're trying to reach a collective bargaining agreement with the police. that would include mood waving or somehow include shooting, punishment for police officers. if they do enforce traffic stops. i don't see how you can do that under california state law. as it stands right now. and it would be lovely if you would stop trying to do that so that i wouldn't have to keep coming down here and asking you not to. so so with that, i will just say i would really appreciate it if you would not

try to step into the shoes of the legislature, and if you would like to be the legislature, please run for those offices. thank you. good evening. um i'm here, as always for my son, aubrey. aberra kassa, who was murdered august 14th, 2006. i am very emotional today. today day is my birthday and my son was murdered on the 14th. two so those two numbers means really a lot to me. the 14th is my birthday and he was murdered on the 14th, so i come here every wednesday just to ask for justice for my son. they

left me with a dead body. i said i wasn't going to cry today, but . i'm hoping that you agendize perpetrators coming forth. i shouldn't have to be here. i didn't even enjoy my birthday today. i just need you to understand. like the other families that was here with their children and families. and i'm not. but my only son. so i'm just asking for justice. and please to agendize people coming to, um. to help us with solving our children's life is. please

i'm asking, is that tired. thank you. for members of the public that have any information regarding the murder of aubrey abacus, you can call the anonymous 24/7 tip line at. (415) 575-4444. uh allen braddell. um, you know, there's no other agency in this state that has this pretextual stop policy. it was just failed in sacramento. sb 50, the poa is saying no. and you've got members of the public here saying no. and we have a speaker

just before me who tragically lost her son. and pretext stops this. might prevent a future tragedy like the one behind me. and it's a tool that police officers need. and it's insane. it's insane that you're shoving this down the throat of san francisco and the po. it's doing the right thing by rebuffing you . and i think you need to rethink your policy. mostly because of the person who spoke just before me. this is the tragedy that this, uh, policy will create. all right? it's the tragedy that will create and you have a responsibility to keep this community safe and leave your ideology at the front door before you walk in here. and that's all i have to say. thank you. commissioners. that is the

end of public comment. thank you . line item three consent calendar. receive and file action for 5000. donation to sfpd's wilderness program from the san francisco police officers association. safe streets for all 2020 three fourth quarter family code 6228. fourth quarter 2024 i'm sorry 2023 dgo 5.15 annual report to the commission regarding enforcement of immigration laws sfpd's um saps 1421 and dps 1421 month report. motion to receive and file second second. thank you, sergeant, for any member of the public who would like to make public comment regarding line item three, please approach the podium. there is no public comment on the motion. commissioner walker, how do you vote? yes, mr. walker is. yes. commissioner benedicto. yes. commissioner benedicto is. yes.

commissioner yanez. yes, commissioner yanez is. yes. commissioner. burn. yes commissioner. burn is. yes. commissioner yee. yes commissioner yee is yes. vice president carter stone. yes. vice president carter auberson is. yes. and president elias, president is. yes. you have seven yeses. line item for chief's report discussion weekly crime trends and safety concerns provide an overview of offenses, incidents or events occurring in san francisco have an impact on public safety. commission discussion. unplanned events and activities achieved described will be limited to determining whether the calendar for a future meeting. chief scott, thank you, sergeant youngblood. good evening, president elias and vice president carter, commission executive director anderson and the public. starting off with just the overall crime trends for this week. uh, still a decrease in overall part one crime by 34. that's about 2000 fewer crimes than this time last year. and the breakdown is a 13% reduction in violent crime and a 36% reduction in property crime as

far as homicides. um, three this year. five this time last year, that's 40% fewer. and in terms of gun violence, we have a reduction of three over this time last year, which is a 15% reduction. ghost guns and gun recoveries. we have 93 gun recoveries. uh, none to date, uh, year to date have been ghost guns. so that is a trend that's different from our past reports. um, a couple of incidents to report on. there were two nonfatal shootings resulted in resulting in two victims hit. the first one was on the unit block of turk street in the tenderloin. the victim. this happened on the 7th of february at 4:22 p.m. the victim was engaged in a conversation with a subject at a convenience store as they walked outside, the subject displayed a gun and pointed it at the victim. an altercation, uh, resulted in a gunshot wound to the victim. the victim was transported with non life threatening injuries and no

arrests have been made in that case. at this point, uh, there was also a, uh, what the preliminary investigation determined was a self-inflicted accidental discharge of a firearm. this occurred in the bayview at cesar chavez in kansas on the 8th of february at 8:30 p.m. minor injuries, non-life threatening, um, significant arrests to report. and this is the result of a federal investigation, um, that was started by the san francisco burglary detail. and this was a multinational investigation involving stolen bicycles out of the city and resold in the country of mexico. the federal indictment was filed last month and unsealed on this past thursday. and the federal grand jury indicted uh, san jose resident, uh, by the name of victor reno. victoriano romero, and charged him with conspiracy and other charges related to, uh, his scheme to steal high end

bicycles from the bay area all around the bay area. actually uh, the indictment detailed at least seven bicycles valued at thousands of dollars each that were stolen out of homes in san francisco and sold to, uh, mr. romero in san jose. uh, two other bicycles were stolen from homes in redwood city in april. sfpd of 2021 sfpd serves served a search warrant on mr. romero's business in san jose and found one of the stolen bicycles disassembled and ready to transport to mexico. the bicycle was returned to his owner, um. the sfpd would like to thank our federal partners and the fbi and the us attorney's office for their work on this case. and this is, uh, one of the fencing operations that we discovered that we were able to actually make some traction on and resulted in a really good, uh, federal indictment, a couple of other incidents, uh, to report there have been two blessing scams that we had a press conference on last week. so just

a summary. for the past decade, the sfpd has been keenly aware and have been proactive and preventative in investigative measures of blessing scams, which are basically bait and switch type of scams perpetrated usually against elderly asian members of our community. um and more details on two recent incidents, one in on january 23rd and the excelsior district, and one on january 25th in the mission district. the suspects were able to abscond with hundreds of thousands of dollars in jewelry and cash. the suspects approached their victims and usually speak about evil spirits that were harmed. them and their families, and how the victim can ward off these dangers. victims are told to bring their valuables, cash and jewelry back to the back to the suspect, where they are placed into a bag to be blessed. they are then told not to open the bag for fear that the blessing will not work. when they do open the bag, their belongings are gone. um, i just want to thank the recent victims for stepping forward to report these crimes.

oftentimes you know there is guilt and shame when people are scammed in this matter and it's, uh, we don't always get these crimes reported. so i do want to thank the victims for reporting these crimes. these cases are being investigated by our special victims unit and our previous efforts in investigating these type of scams have led to arrests of suspects, including in 2019, in which suspects were wanted for swindling over $180,000 from victims in san francisco. they were arrested at the los angeles international airport as they attempted to flee the country. um, i just urge anyone who feels like they've been a victim of this type of crime or any crime of to report it to the sfpd and to spread the word about these scams to your family, friends and loved ones. so to prevent from being victimized. and again, if, um, you happen to get an offer to have your valuables blessed, please, you know, report it, please call a support

person and not share any of your valuable with anybody who is trying to do that. um, that is the first step into being scammed. so we want to also let the victims know to stay be be wary of that, that the two cases that i mentioned are still under investigation. and um, as i said, our special victims unit, um, will continue to investigate until we bring those to resolution. another incident to report was a arson of a waymo vehicle that occurred on the 10th of february at 9:01 p.m. in the 700 block of jackson in the central district. a large crowds were setting off fireworks in the chinatown community for the lunar new year holiday. based on our preliminary investigation, it appears that the waymo vehicle stops around it. uh, vandalized and then set on fire by suspects who have yet to be identified. when police officers arrived at the scene, the large crowd fled in different directions, leaving the waymo vehicle a complete loss. a

second vehicle was parked next to the waymo, and that vehicle also sustained moderate fire damage from the heat. uh, from the fire, from the waymo vehicle, the san francisco fire department arrived and extinguished the fire. and, uh, again, this investigation is ongoing. there are some very good videos that our investigators were able to recover. and those have been distributed. department wide as we attempt to identify the suspects. in this case, if anybody has any information, you can. call (415) 575-4444. a couple of other incidents to report. uh. see just a couple of updates. these these were cases that the commissioners asked about last week. um, update on the carjacking from the swimmer that happened, um, in the

central district. this happened on february 2nd at 5:49 a.m. when the victim parked at beach street and hyde. the victim was approached by two suspects who asked them for a ride. when the victim proceeded to walk away, he was struck by one of the suspects from behind. the victim fell to the ground. his keys were taken and both suspects entered his car and fled. um. later that day, stockton pd notified that they had the vehicle and two possible suspects in custody investigators and coordinated with stockton pd process the vehicle for evidence and confirmed the identity of the suspects as being involved in the san francisco case. both suspects were arrested and um. the investigation, however, still going because there could be other crimes involved with these two individuals. um after action for the super bowl, we were, uh, deployed very heavily on super bowl sunday. there no incidents of significance to report. um, after a

heartbreaking loss, our officers were out in large numbers after after the super bowl and there were no real incidents. the crowds were were, were um, of course disappointed, but nothing to significant to report on that . and there was a stunt driving event that developed that on saturday night into sunday morning. about 400 vehicles were were crossing the bay bridge into the city. due to the quick response of our stunt driving response unit, who assembled the units were able to break up the group and actually turn them around back into the bay bridge. no injuries or issues were reported after these cars got back on the bay bridge, and when eastbound there was a fatal traffic collision on two 824 at 1:06 a.m. at 19th avenue, and crespi and the terrible vehicle traveling eastbound or southbound on 19th avenue past crespi avenue possibly lost control to the and rear ended a

park unoccupied tow truck, causing the vehicle to catch on fire. a bystander attempted to assist the sole occupant of the vehicle, but was unable to enter the vehicle, and unfortunately the occupant, uh, did not survive that. that crash. and lastly, in terms of the drug market efforts, just, um, kind of a year end recap, there were 998 cases. uh, these are for felony narcotic sales that were presented to the district attorney's office. uh, that was the highest number since 2018. of those, uh, reported that 867 of the cases were filed in 2023. the, uh. there were also. 135,000g of narcotics that were seized. and, uh oh, since the inception of the i'm sorry, the 135,428g of narcotics has been

seized and a year to date, uh, or since the inception, 78,963g of fentanyl have been seized year to date. in 2024, 14,000 and 249g of fentanyl have been seized and that is my report for tonight. thank you, chief vice president carter. thank you, chief, for the report. um, just wanted to follow up on two things i asked you about last week that that you weren't prepared to discuss then, but hoping that maybe you are now. so the first was a, um, vehicle pursuit on january 24th. your office followed up with me offline with some additional information on that, which i appreciate, but i just had one follow up question. so this is this occurred on january 24th. um, officers were pursuing a car that ultimately crashed into a muni bus and injuring the driver

and an occupant. i just was curious if there was anything else that you could say about the nature of the injuries to the bystanders? um, i don't actually have the nature of the injuries to the bystanders. so okay, maybe i can follow up with you offline then. yes. um, the other thing i asked you about last week was the new automatic license plate readers, is this something that you're prepared to discuss today? um, actually, we would like to we the request is to have that item agendized. are you talking about the cameras? yes yes. so the request is to have that agendize. that is a very, uh, probably extensive conversation, i'm sure. so could we have a preliminary conversation about it? i mean, what's agendized for right now is any incident or event occurring in san francisco having an impact on public safety? so i think installing 400 cameras is an incident rare event. it's occurring in san francisco. and i think we both agree it has an effect on public

safety. so it is agendized for right now. so are you saying so are you saying you don't have the information or you just don't want to discuss it? a report on the cameras. i just have five questions. well, i'll try to answer your questions if i can. okay perfect. thank you. um, so can you just provide some details on the overall cost, how much the cost, the upfront cost of the cameras. um. you know, i actually don't have the exact cost of that. i just the grant is $15.3 million, but not all of that will be covered with equipment. some of that is personnel, some of it's equipment. and i don't have that. okay. um can you provide any details on how the data will be accessed? so who within sfpd will have access to the data generated by the cameras? if there is an alert, if there's an alert from the cameras on a vehicle that is either stolen or a stolen plate, or vehicle that's wanted in a crime, uh,

that will alert the sfpd the concept is to develop a real time crime center that alert then is disseminated to officers in the field to be on the lookout for that vehicle. so and so, who will have access to that? just just it will be disseminated to patrol officers. generally. it'll be disseminated once the alert happens. if we get this set up, as we would like to get it set up, it will be monitored in a crime center. and then that will be distributed to officers in the field. and then, uh. so what you described is kind of a pre-generated, i guess, be on the lookout for this license plate. and then there's a hit. but then what about all of the other kind of non-hits? i'm assuming that that data is also stored as well. um, the data is stored, but it doesn't. there there would not be an alert unless there is a hit on either

a plate or a stolen vehicle or a vehicle that has been described as wanted in a crime. so could you look retroactively? let's say there's no hit. um, but let's say, you know, a year from now there we get information that a license plate was involved in, potentially in a crime. could you go back and look at, say, every time that this license plate was, was every time there was a hit for it going back a year and track its movements throughout the city? you can look back retroactively and look for vehicles. um, i need to clarify exactly what the retention policy of the data is, but that's where i was heading. okay but that was your five questions. so i think what we should do is just agendize it. oh hold on, hold on, slow it down. we're going to agendize this for next week. chief, can you get a presentation together? um, and i'm going to ask the vice president to go ahead and make sure that the areas that he has questions are covered by your presentation. so if you could touch base with him to ensure that all the questions

are answered? sure. i think some of this is information that the public would want to know. yes. thank you. that's everything for me. thank you. president. commissioner benedicto, uh, chief, just one question. i know we talked about this offline a little bit, um, with the incident with the waymo, is the department planning on requesting any of the video that might have been taken by the numerous cameras and sensors on the vehicle as part of its investigation? i don't know if that's been done yet, commissioner. um but if that if that is available. yes. you know, the car was a total loss, but i would imagine they have storage like most, um, most platforms have storage where it's stored in the cloud, but i don't know if we have anything at this time. are you aware of any incident, even when not involving either one? uh an incident not directly involving one of the autonomous vehicles we have in the city where the department has, uh, received footage from the providers, whether that's cruz or waymo or one of the other ones. um um, i don't know that we have on

criminal investigations. i know we have on, like, teslas that have been involved in crimes or victimize, um, but i don't know, particularly if we've gotten anything from waymo, cruise, any of those. is that something we could follow up on offline? okay. thank you. that's all from me, commissioner yee, uh, thank you very much. there. uh, madam president, uh, the follow up on the waymo issue or the autonomous cars, um, on chinese new year, i was on washington street and there's a waymo stuck right in the middle of the street. and one move because the because of the crowd size crossing the street and what have you. my thoughts is that, um, they sat there for about five, felt like ten minutes, but it's probably more like 3 to 5 minutes. but it aggravate the community and the drivers behind it because it would not move. so i was wondering if there's a way for the police department to, i guess, uh, exclude the waymo's

into into the certain areas where there's only a one way or one, um, one lane, because i think it's a fire hazard. if and a safety hazard because if you can't get through in the cars, just sits there in emergency first responders where there's fire or police can not get through, and you got traffic all the way backed up. so just wondering if the police can, you know, contact uh, i guess the service provider for that to, um, provide some sort of, i guess. how would you say it? uh, you know, safety for us, because if you're looking for your fire department to come through and you're going on grand avenue, there's a waymo there. you can't get, you know, they see a crowd, it stops. and that's the same thing i felt we try to tell the car to move and you could not tell it to move. there's no driver in there. so that's that's my one of my thoughts on

there. so we do through our traffic company. we do have have um representatives that try to work through issues like that with these um these companies. and when those type of issues come up where the companies are notified of those types of issues, as we've seen that in other parts of the city where a vehicle gets stuck and emergency vehicles weren't able to go through. so that's kind of an ongoing discussion. when those problems arise, we do reach out to those companies and try to work through those issues. yeah uh, second thing is, uh, the super bowl was very sorry to hear the 40 niners did not win it. um, but how many officers were deployed during this? um, that super sunday, i guess they call it, um, ballpark. yeah ballpark. we had add um, probably i believe somewhere around 400 over 400 officers deployed citywide with the city

as a whole. okay. all right. uh, thank you very much, chief. thank you, commissioner nunez. thank you, president elias. uh, thank you for the report, chief. um, it's really promising to see that we have, uh, you know, a decrease in violent crimes. is there any particular strategy that you attribute this to? um, we still following our strategy that we have been doing for a couple of years now in terms of the, um, outreach to the most at risk people who are at risk of being involved in gun violence. so we are still doing the public , the community safety meetings to reach out to those people and their support systems. um, i think our homicide unit and our, uh, community violence reduction unit has done a good job of focusing on the right cases and right individuals. so there have been some, i think, some impact arrests, uh, warrants to try to

get the guns off the street, those types of things. so i think a combination of things, it have has helped us, um, you know, without without a academic study, i can only say that i believe that those things are impactful. um also, you know, i believe with our overall violence and we've identified through past research that there is really not a whole lot of people that are involved in gun violence in the city. so we try to focus our efforts on the people as i said earlier, that we know that are the most at risk. and i do think that has a lot to do with really keeping this at bay. and trying to reduce it seems there's better coordination. i know i've read a lot about some, you know, in our kind of bay area pursuits that led to arrests. um, but there doesn't seem to be a positive or a correlating impact on our clearance rates. is there a reason that you believe that

those haven't improved? well i think the coordination is part of it. and you mentioned and i didn't, but you mentioned the coordination. we have really good coordination with other cities in the bay area that we have, you know, connection on our cases, some of the east bay cities, and we work really well with them. um you know, a case of shooting may happen in one of those cities. and it involves people with connections or who live in san francisco, have roots in san francisco. and there's a really good network of communication there. so i do think that has helped our clearance rates, particularly with the homicides. uh, and some of the shootings that we've been able to solve. i think the other thing is just use of, you know, the nibin technology. that's the tracing, the recovered casings back to cases and connecting them with other cases, either in the city, in the bay area and that makes it a lot more, more, um. it has value to the cases in

terms of solvability. we may connect a case in san francisco where it's a no hit shooting in that casing in this. these have been real cases that have occurred like this. the casing may be involved in another shooting in another city. and that shooting may have a suspect. you know, that is being looked at. so it allows us to tie these cases together. and since we introduced, you know, the whole, uh, crime gun investigation center, i think it was 2018, we've gotten some results, some good outcomes from from the use of that technology and the crime gun investigation center. so it seems like we have a pretty good grasp, and we're trending in the right direction in some areas. does, um, does bite, you know, some of the noise that we hear that we read about that says that we're being constrained in any way, shape or form? um, the last time i was here, i asked a little bit about whether we have an idea for how we are going to determine when, where and how much

administrative time people spent. i believe clearance rates are somewhat connected. to you know, the administrative the write ups of these, uh, interventions of these, uh, pursuits. um, do you do we have a system right now still to be able to accurate determine how much time is being spent on administrative tasks that do not have something to do with advancing, uh, the prosecution of matters. if we're talking about patrol time, um, that's evolving. i mean, we can track many things like administrative time spent at the station, you know, if the officers code it right. um, as far as investigative time and the administrative time, we don't really have good systems to track investigative time we can track. you know, how much time was spent on the case? of course. but there there are investigative or administrative duties in in. investigations as well. i don't think we have a we

don't have a handle on, you know, what those times would be patrol is a different story because the officers can put in the, uh, the computer aided dispatch system what they're doing, like if they're off to the station writing reports or if they're, you know, taking a taking a whatever, some type of administrative time that that is tracked. um, and we're we're always evolving to try to get better at that. but in negative time it's much harder. and would you say, uh, that the way things are set up right now, we have a solid system that can hold officers accountable for doing their their work on the streets, on the beats, but also to be able to minimize the amount of administrative time that they're spending. um i believe the system will need some improvements. you know, um, and it's something that we've been working since the first staffing analysis, which happened for

2021, to really hone in on identifying administrative time and that's been, you know, a challenge in terms of really getting that to where it's a lot more accurate. um, but that's a work in progress. right. and i remember when the report came out and you obviously see when these things are generated, we're speaking in an ideal world . right. um, but but it's been a few years and we and i know this question has come up more than a few times, and there seems. to be a lack of i don't know, enthusiasm to improve the system or, uh, we're not devoting the time to really determine, you know, if there are some outliers who maybe are not spending enough time, some that are spending too much time. um but i think it really does, uh, matter. right the leadership and guidance that you provide and that we provide, um, to make sure that people are spending the right amount of time and that we're scrutinizing it. and

i know that, um, you know, it's not something that we're going to be able to solve in this conversation, but i would like to see or hear from you, uh, an approach that we are piloting or developing, um, to be able to, to improve in those areas. right. because i know that, you know, overseeing some of the community policing dgo efforts, um, i know that there is a, a desire to do more community policing, and i see that there's been an increase in community policing, at least in the mission district, as a result of some of the changes that we've adopted. um but i definitely, you know, can see an improvement and could see a lot more of the time that's devoted to community policing. um, and, and the impact and the effect that it can have on clearance rates and better outcomes. so i really hope that we are looking at how we're going to manage, uh,

people's time a little bit better. i know that, you know, having worked at df or under contracts for df, uh, and overseeing efforts at clinics, you know, every minute is counted and, and in some cases it doesn't feel like that standard is across the board in our city. so i just this food for thought because i know that time is of essence and given our staffing challenges, you know, we want to maximize every effort . uh, but thank you for your time. thank you. thank you, sergeant, for members of the public who would like to make public comment regarding line item for the chief's report, please approach the podium. use the overhead. i just wanted to say too, about, um, this article that was in the papers about $0 being paid out, um, for unsolved

homicides. and i was, you know, asking about it being i was told that it would be agendized this month about finding ways to pay tipsters. and i was looking at this article from the same article and it says is, um, neither city officials nor their families are allowed to receive rewards, neither are those who help a case as part of their plea bargain or settlement. people with people wanted by the law are to turn over or to turn information. so there are criminal arrivals can go to jail . so i'm asking when you do agendize this and you do you find ways to pay tipsters as if this is here and people that come forth as gang members or

whatever that may have known that my son was murdered. how are they going to come forth if they're not going to get paid? how are you going to find ways to pay them? if you have this article saying that they are not allowed to get rewards, what do we do? how are we going to get our cases solved? how are we going to get our children's cases solved? how am i going to get my son's safe solved? we have people that want to come forth, but they've been in been criminals and they've been in gangs that want to come forth on my son's case. but i read this. so what hope do i have? how can we change the law? how i hope when you do agendize that you do recognize what i just read? finding ways to pay tipsters, whether they're criminals or not .

hi there, alan burdell. um, just two quick points. uh, it's, uh, we just heard that, uh, perhaps it's the lack of good leadership . uh, that's why we have a lot of, uh, desk time with the police officers. yeah, i don't think it's a lack of leadership. uh okay. i think it's the policies this department has placed on the police department that this commission has placed on the police department. and, um, a few minutes ago was mentioned that there's a lot of noise out there that the hands of officers are tied. i don't think that's noise. i think the hands of the officers are tied. and that's why we have prop e coming up. thank you. that is the end of public comment line item five, director's report discussion a report on recent epa activities and announcements. executive director henderson, thank you.

uh, good evening. uh, we are currently at 82 cases have been opened, so far this year. uh, i there's a tick up, uh, this time last year, we were at 79 cases had been opened. so cases are continuing to come in. uh, and the case loads are increased. uh, so far this year, we've closed 86 cases. um, and on the, on the docket for epa, we have 308 cases that are pending. again that's a larger number than we had, uh, this time last year by, uh, over 50 cases. we've sustained nine cases, and we've mediated, uh, one case this year. uh, we have 33 cases whose investigations have have gone beyond nine months. uh, of those 33 cases, 19 of the cases are cold cases. there are ten cases that are pending with the commission and 96 cases that are

pending with the chief. the chief's office, uh, in terms of this, this past week, uh, we received, uh, 15 new cases, uh, the largest percentage of the allegations for those cases were for neglect of duty, uh, from allegations that an officer failed to take required actions from the public. the full breakdown of all of the allegations, uh, are listed on the website in terms of the breakdown by district, uh, the largest district implicated from the allegations was park districts. and that came from a series of incidents, uh, involving, uh, a member of the public complaining, uh, and wanting to take wanting the department to take action. uh, regarding stolen documents, um, again, the and there were three

of those cases or three allegations made. uh, and park, uh, the rest of the full breakdown for every district is also on the website. i don't have an update on, uh, outreach this week, but for our audit, uh , the association of local government auditors, uh, just selected dpa to present. i'm sorry, i forgot to mention the award winning audit department. uh, was selected to present at its 2024 annual conference. so dpa will be presenting alongside the aurora, colorado, colorado city auditor, uh, and co presenting on an introduction to law enforcement auditing, uh, for audit purposes, uh, law enforcement agencies are still evolving and new practice areas for the audit. so that'll be the national conference. uh, in terms of the, uh, stop data audit, that we're working on,

uh, as today, uh, the commissioners here, uh, you will all receive, uh, a brief survey, uh, to obtain perspectives on the matters related to the audits objective, to make sure that we're meeting all of the conversations that we've been talking about. i know it goes back and forth. uh, but part of the compliance is we want to make sure that we're capturing everything that folks have said to us so far. uh, that should be distributed today. it's less than ten minutes. it will take you all to complete. but i just wanted to give you notice about it so that you knew that it was coming. if you haven't already gotten it. uh, we have one case in closed session this evening. uh, present in the courtroom in case there are any issues, uh, today, that need to be addressed while all the meeting is ongoing, is senior investigator, senior investigator brant bagian also present? uh, is chief of

staff sarah hawkins and our director of policy, janelle caywood. uh uh, if anyone has any questions directly for dpa, uh, or would like to get in contact with the agency, it's at sf gov. org forward slash dpa or you can contact us. at (415) 241-7711. i'll reserve my comments on the remaining agenda items for when those items are called. hypothetical in my throat. uh that. it concludes my report. champagne. champagne. anyone work. uh, i just like to

end with a flare. that's thank you. thank all of this. is this all because of the award winning audit? well i don't think i mentioned the award winning fellowship and intern program either, but since you brought it up. you're good. okay well, you're flare actually left. everyone speechless because there's no one on the dais, so we're going to go straight to public comment. members of the public would like to make public comment regarding line item five. please approach the podium and there is no public comment. line item six commission reports discussion and possible action. commission president's report. commissioners reports and commission announcements and scheduling of items identified for consideration at a future commission meeting. no, no one

needs to come monday to come. up. sorry, i'm going to ruin this for everybody. thank you. uh, while i was away, i know i we received the language access, um, report for 2022. i appreciate that, chief. you followed up, uh, and had that submitted. uh, do you have a projection for when the 2023, uh, language access summary will be provided to us? i'll follow up with you on that so i can get that to you. and i do want to agendize. i know that i mentioned this before. uh, the language access dgo and the report to be able to have a conversation and possibly an action item around that. um for some time in march, if possible. and uh, that is actually my report. i see kept it short. we love having you back, sergeant.

for members of the public, they would like to make public comment regarding line item six. please approach the podium and there is no public comment. uh, the materials for the following presentations for line items seven and eight were not posted alongside the agenda as they were created after the posting and were not available to the police commission. these materials have now been disseminated to the commission as well as they are on the table on the side. if any member of the public would like to view them. line item seven. presentation and discussion on sapd and dpa sparks report fourth quarter 2023 discussion sapd and dpa. good evening, president elias. uh, vice president carter stone. um, i'll defer to sarah hawkins because paul henderson seems to be out. uh, chief scott and commission

uh, deputy chief peter walsh, uh, of the administrator bureau. i'll be conducting the presentation, uh, with the assistance of officer duarte. um, for the sparks report. okay slide. thank you. um, i know that you know the history, but just for the public, uh, the sparks resolution 2706 requires quarterly reports from both sfpd and dpa. uh, and we provide the police commission with policy, uh, development awareness. currently, um, the status updates on 19 dgos are actively going through a developmental process, and approximately i should say, 71 department notices are set to expire within 120 days. and again, this is for the fourth quarter next slide. one of the um, more important dgos, uh, that we wanted to

update is 7.01, which is, uh, juveniles. um, it's been posted for the 30 day public review process. it concluded in december 13th, 2023. um, we received 55 entries, uh, which wound up being about 40 comments and recommendations on the grid. seven of those were incorporated into the draft dgo, 14 were q and a, and not for uh, inclusion in the draft itself. uh, for require further discussion with in concurrence and 15 recommendations will not be included in the draft. the majority of those had to do with um policy changes that would affect law, which we obviously couldn't do, uh, most frequently was the, um, uh, adc ordinance. and then later on the ordinance, uh, the state laws that govern how we interact with, um, those under 18. uh, additional we did receive recommendation outside

the public review process from jpd. uh, and those are being reviewed, uh, for concurrence. those mostly go to, uh, dealing with youth who are under 12. so they cannot be basically criminally charged. and the question is, is what we will do with those? and there's been a back and forth on that. um, originally jpd said that they would take those cases and find placement. so that's one of the things that they brought up. um again, that's this tgo's schedule for concurrence on, uh, april 5th of 2024. for those of you who are not familiar with the process, we do these concurrence ever twice a month. um, and that's where that is in that line. so every month we're doing two concurrent is, um, sessions with the command staff of dpa and the chief. um, and so this is where that falls in line. uh, but it will be, uh, those meetings will be

concluded, uh, before the, um, june 3rd, 2024, at the close of concurrence, sfpd and dpo will conclude a joint preparation of that response, uh, for public review and police commission submission. and then the last, uh, obviously, as you know, is are submitting the lgo for, uh, the commission on. um several items were brought up, um, in reviewing the third quarter sparks report, um dgo 610 missing persons was added to the 2024 general order review list as a priority. um, staff at stage one of the dgo development 3.01 uh is considered in the 60 day stage one timeline. um it will inherit the recommendation grids as well as the request for new recommendation grids. uh, because it had been worked on prior. the police commission will then again determine an dgo 6.10. uh, where it should be

assigned to a working group. um and then lastly, one of the issues i came up was dpa's, um, request for body camera viewing directly into evidence.com. um, as opposed to us turning over that information often. and so there's further analysis being determined on administrative code 96 and or the, the office of contracting. one of the issues with um evidence.com which is run by axon, is that we gave we get one, um, kind of companion license that the da's office gets is our partner. it's like a partnership kind of licensing through them. so anything that would have to be piggyback on with oca and working with axon to, um, get dpa access to that and then we would have to obviously get to a point of how we, um, turn over certain, uh, or protect certain files, such as, for instance,

juveniles, which is everybody is aware of, uh, dpa generally it's a court order to see those how we would protect those. so there's, there's a few questions, uh, going on with that next slide. um this was just a i was to bring to everybody's attention. um again, i know that everybody's familiar with it, but just for the public , um, the dgos are proposed and, uh, to which ones are going to move over on a priority list, uh, the chief reviews that approves it goes to the commission president elias. and that's again reviewed. uh, we notify dpa and the dcs determine development timelines and written directives. notification notifies all parties. and then finally, um, with your help, uh, working groups and the chief's

directive for sfpd and dpa, uh, to present those and then finally, we confirm a commissioner who will be in charge of that particular dgo, and then the working group starts after stage one is complete. and then for the, um, dgo list for 20, uh, 24, the deputy chiefs assignments, uh, that will be used. i won't read through all of them, but you can see on this slide and the next we will have, uh, every dc has a set of dgo s that they will be responsible for. and moving those forward. if we go to the next slide, the list continues as um, and ac 30. uh, also does have a set out of, uh, dgos to work on anticipated priority, meaning which ones we think that, um, will move move ahead. uh, kind of lead the pack. um,

obviously 3.01 is again, i believe, uh, being looked at 3.02 terms and definitions, as you know, i know combing through all of these pages have seen numerous times where one time means something and one dgo and means something else in another dgo, and so that whole process will be try to align all that and get a common set of terms and definitions pursuit driving, missing persons has been placed on there. i know that that was a question. um, and then the sexual assault general order, we also have to go through the manuals. um, we'll be doing booking and detention committee policing, problem solving, crowd control and report writing. a lot of these have not been updated in a very long time. um and then lastly. uh. um. in

december 27th, 23, uh, we solicited feedback on the chief's directive relating to working groups. uh, we received ten dpa recommends a draft directed will directive will be updated accordingly. uh, police commission hearing to determine working groups from the 2024 general order review list and approve chief's directive relating to working group guidelines. um 2024 dgos. uh, the dc determined timelines will be sent to dpa and police commission office and the police commission. update. the question is can we update the 2706? uh. resolution? and the reasons are to provide a clear report guidelines for both sfpd and dpa update. uh, policy terminology review to determine what policy update information is most helpful to the commission and improve standardized communication regarding policy updates between sfpd and dpa. okay. um, again, kind of more a

more formalized transaction of information back and forth. uh, sometimes things go one way from sfpd to dpa, and there's not necessarily a timeline. and the dpa will send something back. so just something similar to confine that and make that more structured. um i don't know if you want to hear from dpa first or go into questions. uh, sure.

do you know how to advance this or. yeah, we can slide or something. okay. good evening, commissioners. chief scott and director henderson and members of the public. i'm janelle caywood. i'm the policy director at the department of police accountability. and i'm here to present highlights of dpa's fourth quarter 2023 policy work. next slide. can you see our slides? okay. next slide please. thanks. okay okay. in the fourth quarter, dpa research and provided 95 recommendations on

three dgos, one department manual and four department notices. we're very excited to have worked on a draft of the serious incident review board. dgo uh, with sergeant john crudo and retired lieutenant mike nevin. it's a great dgo. it's been in the works for a long time, and just as a reminder, it was a recommendation from the department of justice in 2016 that the firearm discharge review board be expanded to include more a wider array of incident s and also to look at tactics, not just to evaluate incidents based on a final final frame. analysis so as a d.o.j. recommendation, given the serious incident review board, dgo was the subject of a 2018 dpa sparks report. so we're thrilled that this is finally moving forward. uh next slide. also in the fourth quarter, dpa conducted a national survey and compiled best practices research regarding police vehicle pursuits at the request of the

police commission, we presented our report on january 10th, 2024, and i was remiss last time, but i'd like to thank our award winning interns, karen turner, sophia espinosa, katerina zheng, and natalie garcia for their work on that project. next slide in the fourth quarter, dpa provided performed extensive best practice research, developing a cutting edge policy on the law enforcement use of social media for investigative persons. so we analyzed the sfpd draft social media investigations policy, and we compared it to the us, doj, department of justice best practices guidelines. and we also did a survey of policies throughout the country from other police departments and sort of gathered up the best information from those. we also solicited feedback from stakeholders and conducted extensive interviews with surveillance, privacy and civil

liberties experts, including the brennan center for justice, the aclu, the electronic frontier foundation. among others, and talked to them about, you know, the trends that they saw, the dangers, the good things. and we've had some really we did some really comprehensive work on that. so we're excited to share the results of our research, which will be in this quarter. next slide. we have a couple of standing policy items that are important to us that were are worth reviving and making sure that the commission stays aware of them. in the second quarter of 2023, dpa recommended that we be. granted access to the body worn camera viewing platform that dpa uses that the department uses to facilitate timely investigations of ois s as well as public complaints of police misconduct. the platform has important features such as redaction tools

and the ability to watch four videos at once. that would save our agency time and money, so we appreciate the department looking into those issues. it's an important topic that's near and dear to our investigators hearts. so, uh, we look forward to hearing more. and finally, another standing item that we requested that sfpd prioritize completing the missing persons policy. and i know the president of the poa echoed the same sentiments a couple months ago before this body. uh, this has not been updated since 1999. on may 30th, we provided 17 recommendations, runs one. one of the recommendations that we really care about is that the policy be amended to inform officers that a missing child under the age of 18 requires immediate police action. currently, sfpd policy only considers a missing child to be exigent if the child is under 12, so we recommend that sfpd

take prompt action for missing youth under 18 to protect teens from the dangers of the streets, such as illicit drugs, and also, importantly, human trafficking. so thank you. that's all i have. thanks thank you. a couple of questions on, uh, 6.10. i just confirmed with my colleague, commissioner walker, we see this. the missing person wasn't on the working group list, meaning we had. we that wasn't one that we were going to do a working group on. so and i was told that the that dgo was finalized already and was good to go. that's why we moved it up . and here this is saying something else. the missing persons one, if i recall, when i don't remember what month it was, but there was a lot of

public comment about missing persons and uh, the dgo and i was under the understanding that you wanted a working group for that. i don't think that one was on the list because we couldn't do it bandwidth wise. we only had we only had three a year. we got right. i can update you if that's helpful. yeah. so that was the one that is has to be a priority. but i mean if the commission doesn't want to work working group that's fine. but i thought the commission wanted a working group on that one. based on the feedback that was in that meeting. uh, go ahead. mr. uh, this general order has been under revision, i think, since 2020. right. um i think in maybe april or march of 2023, we did receive an updated draft. we provided our recommendations on may 30th. um, i do understand that the sm responded to written directives to our recommendations, but we never received a copy of that. so at

the end of december, we were told that the department was just going to go back to, instead of completing the dgo start it over again in 2024, and then maybe do a working group. but when was it requested in 2023? no. why why would we start it over if i could answer your question, objectives with the policy development division with san francisco police department. so the 610 had gone as over 45 or 50 dgos, um, kind of from 2020, 2021, 2022 had all sort of, uh, come together in the 2023 revision list. so the 2023 revision list was huge. it was robust. so. and then when pd was developed or established in may and then finally got staff in august, we were doing an assessment on the dgos and where they were when the 610 came forward. it had had a new dc assigned to it, and the new dc

had reviewed dgo 610. and then there was a different sm, and there were lots of discussions about not knowing where it had stalled out, not knowing where to put it. i do want to just cut back to the discussion about working groups. i don't think in the presentation or anything we've provided that we said affirmatively that dgo 610 was going to go to the working group . dgo 301 right. says that the police commission as a whole has to vote, uh, by way of a resolution essentially based on the 2024 list, which of those dgos will go to a working group that hasn't happened yet. we just got the 2024 list approved. so based on the feedback that we got from the deputy chief, that was overseeing 610 and the smes and additional, actually we got new recommendations from dpa. um, the decision was made to add it to the 2024 list so that we could start it at stage one. all of the dgos that you've seen pretty much haven't necessarily complied with the stages as set forth by three 301. so they've started there's been a lot of work from 2020, 2021 on. and no

clear definition. so again, we're just starting clean but not necessary early with the working group. so here's my issue. we have dgos from the 90s that need to be revised. so for me i think and i don't know if chief we have to have a discussion offline. and i think deborah commissioner walker is on the same page starting this over at square one is not doesn't make sense given all of the dgos given the bandwidth, given all of that. so i don't think this is one we need to start over to get what we have. i've put it, let's put it forward, see where we're at and take it from there. but to scrap it and start over is a really is a waste of our time. i think, especially given all that's gone into it and the reason i prioritize it is because i was told that it was in final form. um, and since this has been going on since 2020 and four years later, i mean, we just don't have the time to deal with this starting over from scratch. so yes, the yes, commissioner, i don't think we would just scrap

all the feedback. i believe the idea was to plug it into the structure of the timing of dgo 3.01. so so everything the feedback that has been worked on and all the policy recommendations been worked on. i'm not saying we throw that out, but we got to plug it into the structure of 3.01. so all the timing and all that, um, but we've already had that. i mean, it's been going on since 2020, so, so, you know, let's we if we have a final near final form, get, get it get it drafted, get it to us and let's see what it looks like. i don't want to put it back into the sort of abyss of where other dgos are. we have it if it's been finalized or semifinal ized, bring it, bring it back. let's see where we're at. and i don't know if we maybe we should just set up a call offline because again, i'm not it it doesn't make sense to start this all over again. you

yeah. understood. you know, one of the things that we were grappling with, there were a number of dgos that were, um, had been worked on and i think it was what we were using was it's under the old 3.01, which is we had to fix that. so this was one of those dgos, i think, uh, miss steve's has some comments on kind of how we got there. certainly um, so 610 i should start with 301 says that the deputy chief needs to basically approve each stage so it's not ready. it's not ready for public review. it's not ready for concurrence, and it's not ready for commission review. but according to the deputy chief who's over it right now, and the 301, for us to move it forward, we need the deputy chiefs approval. okay. but this it's already been approved by the prior deputy chief, right? no, not to move forward. so that's where it was stalled is we hadn't received in the stages. it was in the prior

deputy chief had not approved it. and then a new deputy chief was transferred over into that, uh, bureau. and then when they reviewed it, they had not approved it. so there was discussions internally about how to get it to recalibrate to, to actually comply with the current dgo 301 and their request was that they wanted to review it, be able to incorporate the, uh, recommendations thoughtfully and then feel good about the product that they were approving to move to the next stage. and what is the anticipated time frame for that? if we start it in 2024, our start date would be in february, and then, um, if you don't want it to go to working group, which is fabulous for us to know. um, then it is much faster. we've asked for a smaller, um, development timeline for stage one. so a 60 day timeline. um, i'm just waiting for deputy chief o'sullivan to provide me with the confirmation of the stage one development timeline. but we've set it for february date. okay um, my second question is, with respect to 2.07, uh,

discipline process for sworn members. so this deals with the chief's hearings, where we have a backlog. so i'm not understanding because i'm looking at the one page san francisco police department status report on the 13 dgos. and then i'm looking at the powerpoint, um, page two that you also provided. it indicates that 207 is ready to be scheduled for concurrence. and they're holding it until april 19th, 2024. so i'm confused as to why it's taking so long to have 207 move through the process. since reading the form, it indicates that the public review of this dgo was completed in august of last year. i'm sorry, october october of last year. i believe you're referencing the powerpoint for agenda item number eight. is that correct? about 207 or is this. that's the it's the next agenda item. yes okay. um, so

again this is um, part will probably get into this in the next agenda item, we explain some of the challenges that we had with going through the policy development process. um, it is again, there were a lot of internal agreements to not have timelines attached to developments. and then we were trying to, when pd was established, put new timelines into it to move things along. all right. i'll withdraw my question. thank you. commissioner benedicto. thank you, president elias. uh, a couple of questions. um. in, uh, deputy chief's presentation about the dpa getting access to evidence.com. i know he raised the prospect of dpa itself forming, uh, some sort of contractual relationship with evidence.com. i wonder if i could get a response from either director caywood or director henderson on if how viable that option is. is that being explored? um, in the status of that? um, i'm not sure i can look into it and get back to you. i think we were hoping to go through sfpd. okay. we need their permission to access

their. yeah, exactly. i think even it sounds like even if, uh. and correct me if i'm wrong. uh deputy chief, that even if dpa were to get their contract with evidence.com. so that their own user like the like the da, there would still be additional steps on the sfpd side, because like you talked about when it came to juveniles for example. is that right? yeah so i don't want to just i'll bifurcate them. so the first issue is we only get like one partner. and so that goes to the da. so they would form up on something like that through the contract that sfpd currently has . um and then with in that we would have to have um different guidelines on what could be access east. and the easiest one to point to. um, and when we have further discussions we can delve into it further would be something like juveniles. right. so if a complaint comes in the way the system works is we don't know, uh, if somebody goes into that until we actually audit it, even when we lock something out, we can't lock it out completely.

um, to everyone. so there would need to be a discussion about, like, you know, i'm just saying this for this discussion, like notifying us we're going into this case, here's the case number. then we would know and there'd be some kind of tracking. but that's kind of more on the technical side as opposed to them getting a contract and getting into that got it. so if they were able to resolve the contract issue on their side, uh, i mean, obviously there's still hope that it could be resolved through sfpd and dpa. but if the if the ultimate solution was that dpa ends up with a contract with evidence.com from your perspective, there technical issues that could resolve that would require resolution on exactly the limits of their access, but not that they not the existence of their access. right because what we don't want is a situation where they get a contract, they it goes to procurement in some amount and then they learn that they can't. the that they can't access sfpd's footage at all because those obstacles are insurmountable. okay i think i think i understand. so, uh,

yeah, i don't, i, i don't i'll defer to the chief on whether or not access obviously is granted. but in the case that access is granted, they get a contract when there's i think at that point the hurdles are different, the hurdles are are again, not being able to have cleats. all the redactions you see in a town hall, our team does that. so getting like at the question is going to be efficiency. so if we have to go in and redact it anyway and then sending and then saying okay, now you can have it, that timelines, i don't know how much would be how efficient it will be, but we would have to go down to those levels as we get there to, uh, at that point, that's very helpful. anything to add on that? okay. um, yeah 406. 10i think i agree with president elias and commissioner walker that we want this to move expeditiously. i did have a question for miss steeves. um, you know, i was fortunate enough

to attend the onboarding, have have more familiarity about that process. if 6.10 goes into the phase one of the process, even without a working group, you know, that's obviously it will proceed faster than with a working group. but even with a working group, without a working group, it can be pretty involved. correct in your estimation, even even assuming a february date to insert 6.10 in to the new 3.01 process, which i know there's some debate as to whether or not that needs to happen, but if that were to happen, would a vote on that be realistic within the calendar year of 2024? yes we could potentially get it to the commission, um, sometime in june or july. okay. that's that's helpful. one question. thank you for director caywood. i know there are times where this commission has taken action on goes outside of the normal process when there's something, um, you know, exigent that requires our attention. we did

it in, uh, in 2022 when we readjusted our use of force policy in response to department concerns about reporting. we did it, uh, to we clarified our own egos regarding, uh, preemptive use of tire deflation devices. is it the case? i mean, let's assume this timeline is feasible. and so it could potentially come to the commission in in june. looking at your report seems like the biggest concern is that that state law has that under 18. and the current dgo is under 12. if that's the most high priority change, in your opinion, is it worth doing a sort of out of band targeted change to the issue in that sense? or would you rather just wait and go through the process respectfully? i think it needs an overhaul. it's from 1999 and there is a penal code provision that i cited in the next agenda item that requires all law enforcement agencies with all their policies to be compliant with the to align with the post guidelines and federal guidelines. by 2012. and i don't see we seem to have missed that deadline by some margin. well, i think there was an attempt to

implement to adopt some department notices to try to cover that gap. but i couldn't find any that were in effect to sort of modify the current dg. i couldn't find anything else in the power dms. i reached out to the sergeant in charge of the missing persons unit to ask about about compliance with that statute, and a couple of weeks ago, and he didn't respond to me. so, okay, thank you very much. that's all for me. thank you. thank you. president elias. um thank you, miss caywood, for all the work you've been doing on the investigate of social media. dgo i know that that draft is going to, um, make it to us in a couple of days, hopefully. um but it has been a heavy lift, and so i really, really appreciate the fact that we're taking basically a dgo. that was, you know, somewhat haphazardly put together, um, and trying to improve upon our practices in that area. yeah.

um, but my questions are a little bit more around dgo 701 uh, what is the timeline? what's your projection for when those, when the public comment feedback and the additional feedback from juvenile probation department will be incorporated into the draft for us to view. i don't i don't know the timeline of that. i do know from i was the previous sgm several years ago for jpd that was the biggest issue was the under 12, and i can tell you that i thought we got to a point when i was still the sgm or not the sgm, the executive sponsor that they were going to take 11 and under, if they fit into the penal code section that lists five very serious crimes. um, and i think that that has kind of gone back. there was talk about contracting with some nonprofits s but it

was very cost prohibitive at that time because basically you would keep an open room at, um, for instance, a nonprofit sit 24 seven every day that would have to be ready for a very, very knock on wood, um, rare event. um, so i can't give you an answer on the jpd side, but i don't know if you have any further details on 701 on a possible finish. um. i'm sorry, can you clarify the question? it was just when do you think it'll. well, uh, when the draft will be ready for review? um, after incorporating the public comments and some of this information that jpds suggesting . sure. so it's scheduled for concurrence in april. um, that has to conclude within 40 business days, which takes it out to june. that doesn't mean that we have to have more than one concurrence meeting. we could conclude it in just one. so if we conclude it in april, after the concurrence meeting,

uh, there might be post concurrence edits. um, there is no designated timeline on that particular part of it, but this because this has been actively under review for so long, i am we could get it through concurrence. in april. um, move it through for um, chief's approval and then out by may day. um, that's if everything goes swimmingly at the first concurrence meeting. uh, fingers crossed, i you know, i will knock on wood that we will make that happen. uh, the reason being, obviously, i think it's been very clear that, um, i've been very invested in, in advancing our pre diversion and pre-booking program. um, uh, we had a presentation in june of last year, uh, and had a resolution from juvenile probation department in december of last year. um, you know, basically supporting the and supporting our department in, in launching this effort and at this point, we really are hamstrung by the fact that we don't have a dgo to be able to

then create the mechanisms and the program design to advance our pre-booking efforts. and along with that, i heard, uh, tk walsh mention, uh, something around the edc. uh ordinance and i know i've been very hands on with with making sure that we have cleared that hurdle and chief. correct me if i'm wrong, when we met in december, it seemed like that was no longer an obstacle. and i'm sensing that this. no, no, i think you coming up again. um, with all due respect, i think you misheard me. the. when we were talking about the recommendation grids and the public comment, there were numerous comments within there that people wanted in the policy. that would be against the odachi. so those were part of the 15 recommendations that we did not accept because they