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secretary fuller, please call the roll. oh, man. good morning, please respond with hear or present. azalina usop. commissioner usop is present. thomas harrison here. vice chair harrison is present. kim hartwig shamann here. chair hartwig shulman is present. christopher semi present. commissioner simi is present with four members present. we do have quorum for the sanitation and streets commission, public comment is taken for all informational and action items on today's agenda and to comment in person. you'll
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1600, san francisco, california 94 103. be. on behalf of the commission, i'd like to extend our thanks to the staff of sfgovtv media services and building management for help putting on this meeting. chair hartwig shulman. all right. are there any requests from the commission to amend the. oh, wait, we haven't gotten to the. no. you're on the right spot. yeah. okay. sorry. are there any requests from the commission to amend the order of this agenda? nope. all right. and then hearing no further requests, i have a couple of amount. oh, i don't have a couple announcements. sorry, that includes my announcements. mr. fuller, do you have any announcements? i i do have a
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couple of announcements. first off, very good news. all sanitation and streets. commissioner's and the commission secretary completed their form 700 ethics filing ahead of the april 2nd deadline. so thank you for completing this important requirement, and, the other two announcements i have, one is that the public works commission approved the tenderloin clean workforce development agreement on april 8th, last week, this agreement is administered by the operations division staff, and, sanitation and streets commission members may see the documents for this grant agreement in the in the public works website. and the minutes for that meeting will include a link to the video of the presentation, including questions and answers, and there are no other operations division contracts planned in the immediate future, but i will keep this commission apprized of
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any action related to this commission that they take, and then i will, being as we get further into the election season, i will share the city attorney's memo provides guidance related to political activities for public officials and appointed officials, such as yourself. and i'll post this in our next agenda packet as well, so that the public can see, the advice that you were given as well. and that concludes my, report. all right. thank you. mr. fuller. please call the first item. item one is general public comment, which is for topics under the commission's mandate but not related to a specific item on today's agenda. and members of the public who wish to make three minutes of general public comment in person may line up against the wall for this from the door. if you're commenting from outside the chamber, please press the raise
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your hand button in the webinar or star three. if you'd called in on your phone. okay, and it appears we do not have any commenters in person, and there is no one in the, calling in on the webinar as well, or on the phone. so that concludes general public comment. all right. that concludes general public comment, please call the next item. item two is the communications and directors report. and director of public works carla short is here to present. this is an informational item. thank you bob. good morning. commissioners carla short for the record director of public works. i hope you all had a great weekend. we've had a very busy spring already, so i wanted to update you on some of our work. this past saturday, we held our monthly neighborhood beautification day in west
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portal, inner sunset forest hill, and other district seven neighborhoods. despite the stormy and very chilly weather, a small but spirited group of volunteers worked alongside our crews to get a lot of good work done. we planted trees, mulched, weeded and performed other work to improve our shared public spaces. we also had a steady stream of residents stopping by this month's event. home base at commodore sloat elementary school with their buckets to pick up, free compost to nourish their own gardens. it's events like these that help build community partnerships and remind us of the good things happening in the city, powered by people coming together to make a positive difference. to create a bloom loop. i want to thank our operations teams, urban forestry, street and environmental services and community engagement for putting on another great neighborhood beautification day event. next month we'll be in north beach and other district three neighborhoods on may 11th. i hope you can join us. earlier
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this month, we celebrated the installation of new solar powered crosswalk safety beacons at the intersection of duncan street and diamond heights boulevard in diamond heights. officially known as rectangular rapid flashing beacons, these crossing signals are becoming increasingly popular. we installed the first generation on slope boulevard back in 2013. here's how they work. when a pedestrian wants to cross a busy street, they can push a button at the crosswalk and the flashing lights will start blinking to let drivers know that someone is trying to cross the street for the diamond heights installation, our operations teams, specifically our carpenter, cement and electrician shops, assisted with the poll foundation and put in the anchoring installation as well as the conduit for future wire connections. they masterfully managed the tight sidewalk space on both sides during the installation work, and the solid rock formation on
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the south side was challenging to dig out, but the team made it work. the sfmta then installed the signal pole, solar panels, transmitter, flashing beacon, assembly, push buttons, and signage. this installation marked the first in a series of projects under the city's new walk first flashing beacons program. this is a true collaboration with the sfmta. while they fund the project, we handle ada review, engineering design, project management and construction support. these efforts will help make san francisco streets and intersections safer and easier to navigate for people who walk, bike, and drive. and last thursday, i was in chinatown for our weekly clean corridor sf operation, where we brought a team of about 20 staffers to do a deep cleaning. we focused on stockton street and grant avenue, in the heart of the historic neighborhood, power washing and sweeping the sidewalks, sprucing up tree basins, flushing down the roads, painting out graffiti, and a lot
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more. we also had our community outreach and graffiti inspection teams on the ground to inform business owners of their responsibilities, and also to let them know how we can help them. we also wanted to make sure they know about our courtesy graffiti removal program. the outreach was conducted in english, cantonese and mandarin. the special operation rotates through a different neighborhood every week and the schedule is posted on our website. sf public works .org/ clean corridor sf. and next monday marks the start of public works week, an annual event where we celebrate our employees and accomplishments and showcase the work we do year round for the people of san francisco. we host two student focused open houses, one at our 49 south van ness offices, where we'll be hosting around 100 grade schoolers and middle schoolers. they'll be working with our architects, landscape architects and engineers to learn about those professions and to build model cities. our other open house will be held at
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the operations yard there. there will be hosting more than 350 young people who will get to participate in a lot of fun, hands on activities, from filling potholes and building metal toolboxes to painting out graffiti and building and planting flower and herb boxes, they'll also get an up close look at the various trades shops participating students come from both public and private schools. the open houses also provide an opportunity for our employees to bring their kids to work. these events give young people a deeper understanding of the work we do, and they are packed with a lot of fun. throughout public works week, we offer tours of our projects, including our new street tree nursery, and we hold our annual employee awards and years of service pin ceremony. this year's event will be held at the southeast community center. there's something very special about taking the time out every year to take a stock of all we do and mark our
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achievements, and most importantly, honor the men and women who work for our around the clock department. taking care of our city despite or perhaps because of the challenges we take tremendous pride in our work. serving the people of san francisco is a privilege we do not take for granted. and on that note, i will wrap up my director's report. thank you. so the trees that were planted this weekend, are they from the street tree nursery? so we. yes, they were, but because, of course, we've only recently opened the nursery . they weren't really grown there, but we cared for them there before we put them in the sidewalk. and we are starting to put in place a mechanism to track when we're growing trees and then where they get planted, to see how they how how well they perform. oh that's awesome. that was my next question. great job. oh, sorry. all right, do
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any other commissioners have any questions for the director's report? yes, i do, on the on the week that we're about to enter into, will we get a list of what things are going on? yes. if we choose to attend. absolutely. and we would love it if you're able to join us for any of the events. so we will be sure that we, get bob the calendar to send out to you all. very good. thank you. okay, and hearing no further questions, mr. fuller, please open public comment on this item. members of the public who wish to make three minutes of comment in person on item two. communication and the director's report may line up against the wall for this from the door. and if communication if commenting from outside the chamber, please press the raise your hand button in the webinar or star three on your phone to be recognized. and no one has
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approached in person. and we do not have any attendees on in here. so we have no public comment on this. and, sfgovtv is just asking all commissioners to pull their microphones a little bit closer to you. so we're broadcasting as as best as possible. all right. so hearing no further discussion, secretary fowler, please call the next item, item three is the minutes from the march 11th, 2024 meeting. and this is an action item, before any motions made, i'm happy to take any questions or corrections to the minutes. are there any questions about the minutes? no all right. cool, do i hear a motion to adopt minutes for the march 11th, 2024 agenda? i will make a motion to
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adopt them. awesome. given the motion, we will now hear public comment. secretary fuller, please open public comment. members of the public who wish to make three minutes of comment in person on item three, the minutes from the march 11th, 2024, meeting may line up against the wall for this from the door. and if you're commenting from outside the chamber, please press star three on your phone to be recognized or the raise your hand button in the webinar. and no one has approached and sfgovtv is indicating we do not have any callers on this item either. so that concludes public comment. all right. so all in favor of adopting the minutes from the march 11th, 2024? say yes. yes. and so this motion passes. so,
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secretary fuller, can you, call the next. yes, so item four is the bureau of building and street repair performance measure report and bureau superintendent matt naclerio is here to present the report. and this is an informational item. good morning, madam chair. commissioners my name is matt naclerio, and i'm the super intendent for the bureau of building and street repair. and i'm here today to make our regular, presentation on our performance measurements. and, just to review some of the data of what we've completed to date. which is the arrow? this one. yeah. thank you. our first slide is just to show the difference
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in service orders that we've received for building repair. so you can see that the four year average is just over 3000 service orders, to date. and again, just to remind the commissioners that this is as of february 22nd, we had 1954 service orders. if you were to prorate that to the end of this fiscal year, it'd be 2605. so 2605 service orders still below the four year average. but in keeping with some of the previous years, we are noticing that, as the budgets for the future years are getting tighter and that's what the predictions are, that some of the departments are withholding some funds and, and sort of saving them. so we are noticing that there is a decrease from the different departments for service requests. and those are more the improved the tenant improvements. of course, the ongoing maintenance and the emergencies that we do throughout the year will
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continue, the next below that, that bar graph below is showing the work that's being done by the various shops. we have 12 shops within the building repair division of the bureau of building and street repair. plumbing always is the shop with the most service orders and it is the busiest. there's multiple reasons for that. the first reason is it is the only shop that has an on call person that works, after hours and works on weekends. and that's because when there's a plumbing emergency, you need to have someone there. so they're there to address plumbing emergencies. there are also, required to do annual back flows for all the various facilities within the city. so there's also that workload. and then of course, ongoing maintenance and repairs, they're followed by the lock shop, again, they're doing maintenance and repairs and tenant improvements. but there are also doing ongoing security enhancements. and, you know, if
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there is a break in, they're there to secure that as well as our carpenters, paint is next, and again they're doing mostly ongoing maintenance and repairs. they do do miscellaneous striping for our parking lots and for parking lots for mta and they're also, when needed, doing painting of fences. so for instance, the work that was recently done on the third street drawbridge, all that steel was painted by our paint shop. next is glass again, mostly glasses for security. and then there are some ongoing maintenance and repairs. we just received a, urgent call from the port asking us to do some removal of, i think it's 26, 100 pound panels that are on one of the buildings, that are is currently now closed, and there's one is already fallen. so they're concerned about the safety issues. so we met with
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them last week. and that's something that we're going to be working on, carpenters again. they're doing maintenance and tenant improvements. and i think for the rest of the bureaus, that's basically what they've been doing. the only one i would highlight is sheet metal. sheet metal is doing a lot of the fencing replacements that you see throughout the city, including any security fence replacements that need to be done. any questions on this slide or should i move on? commissioners are we do we have any questions for the site? no. okay. maybe try to get through it and we can ask questions. yeah. wait till the end okay. yeah, the next slide is showing, the clients that we receive and i think i've mentioned in the past, the top five tend to always be the same police library. three, public works itself within the different departments and bureaus. real estate, the one change that i did want to note is, fire, which
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is usually within the top five, is now number six. and they, the airport bumped them, the reason for that is we're getting a lot more requests from the airport. and that's because people are flying. so we have a lot more improvements that they're requesting, bathroom improvements, carpeting improvements. and so that's why you're seeing that they've actually bumped the fire department. next slide is the annual conversion rate. what this is trying to capture is we get lots of estimates from the various departments. and what percentage of estimates that we provide to the departments are actually converted to projects. so right now you can see that the, average is 58% for conversion, which is right in line with what we had last year, and i did want to point out that right now we're at 172 estimate request. but if you were to prorate that to the end of the fiscal year, that would be 229,
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so again, we do get requests for estimates. some of that is for budgetary purposes. so for instance, departments are putting or had already put in budget requests for capital improvements. they're asking us to come up with a rough order of magnitude estimates. so those are actually captured here. but the department nor do we expect that those will turn into projects. and if they do turn into projects, they will be in future fiscal years. that was the building repair division of the bureau. so this is the street repair division of the bureau, and this is reporting the number of potholes. the goal for the street repair when it comes to potholes is within three working days, we are required to complete 90% of all 311 pothole requests. so you can
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see here, typically we exceed that. and you can see in each of the fiscal years before this fiscal year, we were over the 90% goal we currently are at the 90% goal, and we expect that we will maintain that, the number of service orders that are shown is 1047. if you were to add the service orders that we received in march. again, march was a wet year, a wet month, there were 1516 service orders for potholes just, that were completed. so you can see that we did complete a lot in march. we anticipate that we will be doing the same in april. if you were to prorate it, we would get about 2021 potholes, which is slightly below what was last year's but above what we had the previous year. and again, if you think
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about pothole repairs, a lot of it is weather dependent. and although we've received a bunch of rain this year, the rain has been much different than what we received last year where, you know, it was very much focused and isolated and very, intense. and so that created a lot more potholes. and this year we're thankful for the rain, but it also has been, more spread out. so that actually reduces the total number of potholes that we're receiving. so there's nothing surprising there for us. the next slide is the annual counts of potholes and our response rate within three business days, and again it's 8000 potholes that were repaired. if you were to prorate that it'd be 13,000, almost 14,000 potholes, which is definitely exceeding, last year's, but again, i do want to
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point out that that is assuming a straight line projection, it's unlikely that that straight line projection will happen because of the difference in the season. so once spring comes, we expect her to be less rain. so we actually expect that there will be less potholes service requests. but if we were to do just a straight line projection, we would exceed, last year's. so it's reasonable to assume that we're at least going to achieve what we achieved last year. and then as i mentioned, about two, two and a half years ago, we created a proactive pothole repair pothole repair crew. it's a crew of three people. and what they do is they rotate from one supervisorial district to the next, and they spend one month there, and they're actually repairing potholes as they come
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across them. as well as any potholes that we receive service requests for within that district. and the orange is showing the number of potholes that have been completed by the pothole sweep, whereas the blue is showing what is being completed by the remaining crew. so basically we have one pothole sweep crew and we have 2 to 3 regular pothole crews depending on staffing levels. and you can see, that on average i looked at a different slide. on average, it looks like we're projected that the pothole sweep will complete about 25% of the potholes that will come, that will be completed this fiscal year. and that makes sense, right? 25% there, one fourth of all, the pothole crews that we have. and again, the three pothole crews that go city wide aren't always fully staffed. so there are times when there's only two. so they are, at least doing their fair share, if not a
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little bit more. you can see on some of these, months that there are they are exceeding what the normal pothole crew is doing. you know, i specifically wanted to point out the work done in july, and you can see that there is a huge increase in july based on what the regular pothole crews are doing, that is in district ten. and if you were to look in the previous fiscal year in august, again, another big bump that's in orange, again in district ten. so it is showing that there is a need for the for the proactive pothole sweep in district ten, and it is something that we are continuing. i will say that it is taken away from other other work and it's not, a program that is currently been fully funded. so it is, being supplemented with the regular pothole crew staff. that. the
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sweeper not only does ongoing maintenance of, you know, pothole repairs, we also do block repair, block paving so that can be resurfacing, which is fully grinding and then paving the street or an overlay which grinds along the gutter lip and then on the conforms of the intersection cones. and then we'll put a two inch asphalt pavement over that, the goal for this fiscal year is 120 blocks, you can see that right now. what's being reported is 61 blocks, i'm happy to say that as of friday, or i should say as of saturday, we paved 93 blocks. so we are at about 70% of the goal. the reason for the sharp increase and the reason why we've lagged behind a little bit, as i've mentioned in the past, was because of the survey monument referencing requirements. that was a new requirement this fiscal year, it
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did take a while for us to ramp for the survey crews to ramp up to do the monument, referencing, i'm happy to report i'm sorry. i am happy to report that, they are now, freeing up at least 4 to 6 blocks a week, on average, we're paving about three and a half blocks a week, so that is some extra blocks that are being freed up, we've worked with the director and the deputy director as well as the engineers, and there's been an agreement to do work on the weekends, and that is to get to the goal. so at, at this point, if we still keep getting those blocks released from the survey monument group, and we continue to work on weekends, we expect that we will be able to meet the 120 block goal, what we're doing is splitting the blocks, so we'll grind on a friday, pave on a
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saturday, and then if we're able to work on a sunday, we would grind on the sunday and then pave on the monday. so, we're actually working seven days a week whenever we can. and again, that's to make sure that we're able to meet the goal based on this new requirement. and then this is, i believe, the last slide. and what we're showing here is just the work being done. the top line is block paving, and the reporting square footage. again, that's lower than what's actually has occurred as of saturday, and we again anticipate that we will be meeting 120 block goal. that really is what we focus on. not so much the square footage, but you can see that, let's see. i think he was prorating. what the totals would be, and it would be the top of that gray bar, so we would be exceeding, the, the
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square footage then, and that varies on the length of the blocks and the width of the blocks too. so from year to year, that will vary. and you can see that in sort of the, the saw tooth shape of this curve, and again, we don't focus on square footage. we focus on number of blocks. that's really what our goal is focused on. you can see the orange line is our patch paving that's stayed relatively flat throughout the years. voids, depressions, those have gone down, so basically if there's a sinkhole or a depression because of a lower sewer lateral, we would go out and repair that, i think the reason for that decrease is, as we've mentioned in the past, the sewer repair division section that we used to have under what was called the bureau of building, the bureau of street and sewer repair, is no longer with the public works department. it moved over to puc. puc is now doing all their
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sewer repair work with a private contractor. and so in the past, we had been reporting the puc voids and depressions that had exceeded three or more. and then they would go out and they would look at it. now that they've hired private contractors, they're looking at them much more frequently. so if you were to do a report now of three or more sinkholes, the report shows that there are none. so puc is being much more proactive with responding to the initial voids and depressions that are happening. so we're in the past we've been going out repairing the same location. you know, time after time that's not happening. and that explains the decrease in the voids and depressions. and that is the end of my presentation. i'm happy to answer any questions you may have. so, tom, do you have you have questions? yeah, question do you do the state highways
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like 19th and van ness avenue with these repairs? we do do, we do have a, maintenance agreement with them, and we will be we do repair and potholes there. yes. very good. thank you. and compliments on your good work. it's this is i'm very, very happy to see this because i see potholes a lot. yes. not so much anymore. especially the caves. anyway thank you very much for. you're welcome. i do think the state has plans to be resurfacing that, but it's a couple of years out. yeah. 19th avenue, we actually did a, infrastructure project on 19th avenue, and we were we thought we were very well coordinated on timing that they would follow us right afterwards with the paving and then their project got a little bit delayed. so unfortunately we finished ours up and there's going to be a gap. but i believe it's scheduled for next year. paving 19th avenue. i have some
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questions. all right, well, i think chris or. okay. go ahead. there we go, thank you for very thorough information. that was very helpful. i do have several questions, i live in candlestick, and that's district ten. can i ask you why district ten has the most request for street repair? potholes, sinkholes, etc? i think it's a combination of factors. i would say one, it's the size of the district. i would say two it's also and it's really the impetus for why the proactive pothole sweep program was reimplemented, what what we noticed, when there was an audit by the controller's office, was that certain districts are less likely to use
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311 to report potholes in the way the system is set up is it's really you have to it's a reporting. so it's a reporting system. and so those bureau, sorry, those districts that are more likely to use their cell phone or to you know, respond and report are doing that, however, some of the other districts, like district ten are not doing that. so the number of three, one one calls that we were seeing coming into district ten was much less than what we were getting in other districts. so the decision was made, well, let's go out and let's have a proactive team that so that public works isn't just relying on people calling in and reporting defects. we're actively we're proactively going out and looking at it, just based on the resources and staffing we have, we are only able to go to a district one month a year. and i think that's the reason, though, why district
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ten sees so many each year is they're just not being reported. and it's when we get there that we're seeing them and filling them. thank you. my second question is, what's the relationship between dpw and recology in the street repairs where i live does recology centers there, and this is april . i have flat tires twice now and then the street, you know, a lot of the heavy trucks is just been used by this big recology trucks. so is there any responsibility or partnership between dpw and recology in kind of working together, making this repair? so the financial burden is split half, half or something like that? i don't know, this is just a question i have. i would say that the if it's a public street, the responsibility is ours, the street should be
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constructed to the standards that a heavy truck traffic can withstand it. i can't attest as to whether or not that's the case or not, i will say that we are out there repairing and filling those potholes and doing a lot of patch paving there, it's at a point now where we really need to be doing some larger repairs, we are working with engineering to see if they can free up some funding for us to do that. and it's been an ongoing discussion that we've been having, but i think it's, at a condition where ongoing maintenance is insufficient. and i think that's what you're seeing. yeah. and then you mentioned three times that it's caused by rain, but does this really, truly caused by rains when this street repairs and potholes and things occur like because i, i'm not an engineer, i don't know how these streets are built because i know it's right by the bay. so i'm assuming the shift of the land
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or streets might have something to do with it. but you mentioned rain. is this the biggest cause of this? potholes. so i think the traditional belief is that potholes are created by rain intruding into the pavement and the base. i mean, i won't go into a big lecture, but yeah, so basically cracks. so as the pavement fails, it cracks. and if it's raining, the water gets into the crack and then starts to seep into the base, and then it starts to deteriorate the base, if there's base there or starts to deteriorate, the asphalt pavement gets underneath. it creates voids, starts washing out the voids, and creates what's called a pothole, so, so traditionally, that's what engineers believe creates potholes. and i think there's been a lot of study on that, i would, but i did mention, a lot depends on the structural section of the
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street. so if we know that there's going to be heavy traffic, the thickness of the asphalt pavement, the thickness of the base changes. so where i mentioned an overlay was two inches, when you're constructing a heavy traffic street, like an arterial or a collector, your structural section would be a lot different because it's anticipating the annual actual wheel loads that it's going to be receiving. i don't know how that road was constructed, so it could be a combination of the road wasn't really fully constructed to a standard that is currently being used, as well as the fact that it's at a point now where it's so deteriorated that any traffic over it is creating, the problems, and it's just being exacerbated by the weather. so how does the public will go to dpw and report this? because i'm sorry i missed the first part of that. how will a public go and report this? and it's been taken care of like asap. you said three days, but it's been years. it's just get
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worse. you get patched very lightly and then, you know, with the heavy traffic of a lot of these big trucks and then you just go back to the same pothole. and then you people continually driving on this pothole, it just causes, you know, we agree with you. and that's why we're trying to work with engineering to come up with a different solution. it's clear that ongoing maintenance that we've been doing is insufficient. yeah. it's just, engineering coming up with a plan to repair it and then to fund it. but at the budget for bureau of building, street repair is insufficient to be doing something like that. we look to engineering to fund it. so do we just call 311 continuously like we're aware of it? but you certainly can call 311. we're aware of it and i think we drive it. if not on a weekly basis on a regular basis. thank you. commissioner sydney, thanks for the presentation. i've seen a lot of, like a bunch
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of blocks in my neighborhood. neighborhood have been resurfaced recently, and it's. you, like, see them show up in the morning, and then they're they're done. you know, at night. it's, like, shocking how quickly it happens. so, kudos to you on that. one question or i guess two questions i did have, though, is you mentioned that the well, first is more of a general question. you mentioned sometimes you'll just sort of resurface, sometimes you'll grind it down and rebuild the street. is there a how do you make those those decisions? like is there sort of a an index that you use or sort of an inventory, or is it just sort of based on how many three on one calls you're getting, no. it's determined by engineering. so, i think it's annually, if not annually, then every two years. the engineering, bureau will go out and they'll actually survey all the streets in the city. they'll do a visual survey of the condition of the streets, and then they come up with a pavement condition index called the pci. the pci is then put into a program that identifies
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guys what based on the funding level, what type of improvement should happen. so there's the overlays in the grind and paves that we do. but then there's also some slurry seals that are being done by contractors, so that's all based on the engineering study and the pavement condition index and then funding available. if, if i could just add to that. so we have sort of a motto in our. so matt's team works closely with the paving program and the paving program. engineers are the ones who kind of establish the programmatic plan for the year. and their motto is to use the right treatment in the right place at the right time. so they will look at it's much more cost effective to do a preventative treatment over a road that's still in good condition than to rebuild a road completely. so that's part of the challenge that we have is when do we
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allocate the funds to rebuild completely versus when do we do something that's that's more of a, protective treatment. and so they're looking at that pavement condition index around the city. what's the funding available. and then kind of how do we get the best bang for the buck. but i would encourage commissioner yusop to call 311 because it's not the only metric that we use, but if we are getting a lot of calls that will, you know, will take a close look at why we're getting so, so many calls in an area and that will help us establish, you know, what the best treatment is. thanks. and then just one more. and i don't mean to put you on the spot, but you mentioned the goal of 120 blocks a year. do we does anyone know how many blocks there are in this city? like is that i don't know, 1% of the city. do we have any idea, that just to clarify. yeah, that that goal is for our internal program for resurfacing and then, it's a 500. it's a 500 block goal for
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our whole program, and i think it's 13,000 or 14, 13,000 blocks. thank you. okay. all right. thank you. you actually anticipated a few of my questions during your presentation, so thank you for that, i did notice, i think, that it looks like there's an increase in the repairs per month this year, i was just wondering what why why we're able to, do the increase like that, i, i looked at the numbers for 23. we averaged a, 929 per month, and, last year and 24, it's 1004. that's like 75 more potholes a month. and that's awesome, but is it because of staffing or where the rain's
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been less so we're able to just do more, why do you think we've been able to be so successful? i guess it's not staffing. and i would say it's actually because of the rains, so again, the goal that we focus on is the 90% within three working days. so as and it's something we monitor frankly, on a daily basis. we have a pie chart that shows where we are, and so if we see that we're falling below and there are months, if we were to look at, from july to now, there are months where we dipped below the 90, but since we're trying to focus on that 90, and when we see that we're we're below that 90% goal, we're working overtime. so we'll work and we'll try to get more staff to work overtime as long as funding allows for it, so i think what you're seeing is because the rain and because the rain has been so protracted, we're working overtime more months
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than we did the previous year because the previous year they were focused on certain months and certain times. okay okay. awesome. i think like, every all my other questions have been answered there. anyone else have any questions? all right. well, you guys have done a really good job, you guys received the pci score of 75 earlier this year, so i, you know, obviously would like to see it increase with, well, now we're, we're we're headed that way. so continue the great work. so thank you very much. thank you, let's see, mr. fuller, please open public comment on this item. members of the public who wish to make three minutes of comment in person on item for the bureau of building and street repair performance measure report, may
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line up against the wall furthest from the door. if you're commenting from outside the chamber, please press the raise your hand button in the webinar or star three on your phone to be recognized. and we do not have any commenters in person, and sfgovtv is also indicating there are no callers for this item. so that concludes public comment. all right. is there any further discussion from the commission? nope. all right. so secretary fuller, please call the next item. item five is the bureau of street environmental services standards of cleanliness. and the bureau of the bureau of street environmental services superintendent chris mcdaniels will present this report as a reminder to commissioners, one of the primary responsibilities of the commissioner commission, as stated in the charter section
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4.139, is to establish standards of cleanliness for the public right of way. and this informational item is, in, in support of fulfilling that mandate, mr. mcdaniels. thank you. if i'm going to jump in very briefly, although, secretary fuller did mention a little bit what i wanted to give in terms of context. so so, recognizing that this is really one of the primary responsibilities of the sas commission to establish these standards of cleanliness, we've been working diligently to really try to define how can we establish standards of cleanliness when we know that we don't control many of the factors that contribute to a lack of cleanliness? and so, while we've always had service level agreements for you know, when we how quickly we expect to
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address something that doesn't really define what is what should the standard be upon completion of our work? so what, superintendent mcdaniels is going to share with you today is our best thinking about how we measure what should it look like , with the understanding that we're going to expect to measure it right after we finish doing it, because we know maintaining that standard may be a challenge . so we're very eager to share with you, and we really look forward to your thoughts and your feedback, because this is a collaboration with the commission. and it's kind of a new, new way for us to try to frame this. so it's an important part of our work here together. so we look forward to hearing from you. and with that, i'll hand it back to superintendent mcdaniels. thank you. carla, chris mcdaniels, superintendent for bureau of environmental services. good morning. commissioners haven't seen you in a while, so it's good to see
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you guys, today, we plan to explain what our standards are for cleaning here in san francisco. and i and i also want to say that it's a team effort, the department of public works can't do all the work ourselves. we have partners, we have property owners, we have business owners, we have the public, then we have our community, districts that help us. so i want to start by saying that it's a joint effort. we really appreciate everybody's help because we can't do it by ourselves. this slide is like we always want to show you where we are located in the department. org chart. we're on the far right, street environmental services. we're under, deputy director jada durden, under carlos short as director. as bob referred to, this is kind of the cleaning standards informed by, we use these for as guidelines and they identify what we're
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supposed to be doing as far as standards. the next slide i wanted to share the different types of cleaning so everyone knows the amount of work that we do and what we describe it as. first of all, we have our controlled mechanical sweeping. those are the sweeper trucks that we that we see in the field. those are scheduled. they have the posted signs, compared to uncontrolled, we also have those mechanical sweepers that go out. we deal with emergencies. there's a couple spots in the city that do not have assigned mechanical sweeping. so we use that task to jump in to emergencies as needed , there's a lot of those in certain areas of the city, the next type is our broom support, that staff member is in front of the sweepers. he's making sure that all the large items are removed before the sweeper comes in. we want to make sure that, the sweeper doesn't get damaged. so he's in front with the pickup
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picking up metal large items so the sweeper doesn't get damaged, the next type is litter patrol. these are the folks that are the boots on the ground. they. they walk up and down the sidewalks, most of the time they're working within a zone. they actually do the litter pick. the next type is steamers. these are the ones that you see in the white suits. and the respirators. they're out steam cleaning the sidewalks in the streets, the next type is biohazard. unfortunately, we encounter a lot of different types of debris on the sidewalks and streets, so we have to make sure our staff is protected. this work is done by steamers as well, but they remove and package and handle all the stuff that we don't we really don't want to talk about. that's on the streets of our city. the next type is special projects. this is a group that i manage that basically deals with the events throughout the city, we also deal with cleaning the
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tunnels and any type of special projects outside of our regular work. the next type is bag and tag. in the different encampments, we have a process where we don't want to throw anybody's valuables away, so we have to bag and tag the items that the person wants to keep and we also have to bag and tag what we throw away, because we want to make sure that that's documented. i'll get into this one a little bit more detail when i go through the slides. this is a very important, type. the city attorney's involved, so this is pretty important. i'll get into details later. the next type is clean corridor. carla mentioned that today every thursday we go out in the commercial corridor and we do deep cleaning and i'll get into that later as well. the last two are related to graffiti. we have public and private. those are the last two on the item. controlled mechanical sweeping that we talked about. we want to
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make sure that we ensure the parking strip is clean and free of debris. as per the scheduled route. this is our standard, we also have some bullet items on the side that kind of gives you a little bit more detail. as discussed before, this is scheduled routes that we run. we want to make sure that ten feet out from the curb is clean. that's one of our standards. so when we're done we want to see ten foot from the curb out crystal clean, also, we want to make sure that the leaves and debris are removed as well. a lot of our homeowners, they blow their leaves and minor trash right before the sweeper comes. and that's okay. we want to work with them. right. so they do that and we come by and sweep. so we want to make sure all that debris is picked up as well. uncontrolled mechanical sweeping as we discussed this is we respond to emergencies but the
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standard is the same. we want to make sure that the curbs are clean within ten feet of the curb. we also use this type for emergency spills and such oil, debris, whatever we can call that sweeper, he'll respond. take care of the emergency and then it's all cleaned up and ready to go. okay the broom support i mentioned earlier, this crew is in front of the sweepers to make sure the sweeper doesn't get damaged by large pieces of equipment. they're in the pickup, and they pick up debris right in front. we also talked about litter patrol. the standard here is to timely respond, to remove to remove all trash, litter and debris. these are the crews that work within the zones throughout the city, they work really hard. they pick up all the trash that they see. and one thing that we wanted to emphasize here is once
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we get a311 call and a litter patrol responds to a location, we want to make sure he looks in both directions to make sure if there's some debris, 50ft one way or the other, he completes that service order as well. he removes that trash on the street , one part of our process that we had to do based on public concern is we do have to follow, follow, document everything that we do when we get to a location, we have to take a picture to document that it was there. and we also have to take a picture that we removed it. if we don't do that, we're not believed that we responded to the service request. so that's our proof that we were there. the litter patrol also has to make sure that needles and other debris is removed from the sidewalk. we talked about the litter patrol, responded to a service request mid-block. also, if he goes to a corner, he's going to look at
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the other three three corners to make sure that that intersection is clean. he's also going to look at any type of equipment or furniture that's on the sidewalk that may need to get removed. we don't really pick up all of that type of equipment. we call recology. we do our work order the information, gets to recology, then they come pick it up behind us. so he's really doing a deep assessment of the intersection that he's working in. we want to leave there and have everything clean. we talked about the steamer timely response to sidewalk dirt and grit, and we do that by disinfecting power washing and sanitizing. when you see the guy in the white suit, he's he's doing all that with his steamer. when he leaves there. it smells good. it looks good. i wouldn't say it tastes good, but, it's in the best condition that it could be in, for these type of
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responses. we want to get it done within 24 hours. so our sla for the steamer, when he's dealing with complicated issues, 24 hours, we want to respond to get it done, remove it and return it back to normal. we touched on biohazards. unfortunately, we encounter quite a bit in certain areas of town. the steamer. the steamer is responsible for that as well, even though it may be in the property owner's, area of responsibility. if it's biohazard, we want to get to that location within 24 hours. and remove it. there's a lot of different things that we find out there, human, animal, etc, etc. we're still responsible to get it up. so we pick it up, we bag it and we dispose of it properly. and then he does the steaming, disinfecting, sanitizing when he leaves his pristine okay. we talked about
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special projects, they preplan schedule pre and post cleaning to support citywide events. to return the city back to normalcy. we have, hundreds of events every year. we have parades. if the warriors are successful, we have a parade on market street, special projects handles all those events. bay to breakers. we have chinese new year parade. they handle all those special events. so we come in behind them and make sure the city is back to normalcy as soon as we can. there is a revenue component. we work very closely with mta, so they want to get their busses back on the street as soon as possible. so we work really close together, to make sure we can open the street as soon as possible. we talked about bag and tag. we want to collect and store belongings of unhoused persons for 90 days,
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and then we want them to be able to come and retrieve those items. as i spoke to you before, it's a team effort, especially in this case when we're talking about unhoused people. we work with pd, the health services department, and we work every day in different areas of the city to help the folks that are that are disadvantaged and that are, don't have a place to call their own. so it's kind of sensitive and emotional for us because we see these folks every single day. they just need help. and we're very sensitive in our reaction, we have pd there with us. and once, they either accept a place or not, we come in and, follow our procedure for bag and tag. we must document, photo, document, collect and store to the city attorney's involved. the city attorney is able to see our bag and tag process on a daily basis. we must get this
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right. and we must be able to have those items returned to the people who, were disconnected with them at the homeless encampment. this is a very serious, part of our our standard, we want to make sure those folks get their stuff back. the next slide is our clean corridor. we want to provide enhanced deep cleaning for commercial business corridors in all of the supervisorial districts. so every thursday we go and we take all of our resources to a corridor, and we make sure that that whole corridor is clean. we do weeding. and i think some of the commissioners have been out a couple times. we do weeding, we do, graffiti removal. we scrape fliers off of poles, we flush the entire street, one important part of this is our outreach. people join us and
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what they're doing is notifying the property owners and some of the business owners what the rules are in the city. as i mentioned before, we have some responsibility. but not all responsibility. so we take advantage on these thursdays to really reach out, talk to the folks and let them know that this is a courtesy, that we're providing and that we would like you to help us keep the frontage, sidewalks and street clean. so it's a really good program that we have. it's been going on for a long time, so, it's very valuable. this is graffiti responsibly, our standard is to timely respond, to abate a graffiti on public assets. so it could be street furniture that belongs to the city. it could be a building. it could be a trash can. those are all city owned facilities. so we are obligated to make sure, those assets are, abated as soon
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as possible, we did talk about property owners responsibility and business owners responsibility. we work very closely with businesses, we have an opt in program where you can work with us to abate graffiti on your, your property, but for our responsibility, this is for public. and we do have an sla of 48 hours. private graffiti, as i mentioned, the property owners have full responsibility. we do have the opt in program. that kind of helps them out. we will do some abatement for them if they sign in. again, we do have our, our outreach folks out there talking with the business owners and the property owners to let them know what we do and what we don't do. we really want to make sure that the goal is to
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have all abatements done within a week. so that's our standard, our goal. this slide is about who does what. we have public works. as we talked about we have community benefit districts. we call them cbds. and we have the private we have the public. excuse me. we had the property owners and the business owners. as far as public works, we responsibilities. we want to ensure the city's right of ways are clean and clear. and to the right you can see that we already talked about streets and gutters, curb to curb, street corners where the curb ramps are, and any sidewalks and stairways that's in the public right of way. that's our responsibility for community business districts. they have, agreements with certain building owners to provide cleaning. so we work with them. if they have a shortfall, short of a crew, we
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do help them, but we want to make sure that the cbd's understand that they have the responsibility for the sidewalk in front of their buildings. anything on the sidewalk in front is their responsibility. as a courtesy, as i mentioned, is there if there is some biohazard, they will come take care of that. but the full responsibility belongs to the cbd or the property owner. we want to kind of push that so everybody knows that any work we do in front of your building is a is a courtesy. but that responsibility belongs to you. okay. this slide is very important. this is property owner and business owner responsibilities. our outreach team, as i mentioned before, they go out a lot and talk to the businesses and property owners. they have a handout that kind of guides, property owners and business owners of what their responsibility. we are responsible cities are. so this
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is very important for them to have of. okay. this slide is just a list of all of the standards that i mentioned before, controlled mechanical sweeping, uncontrolled mechanical sweeping, litter patrol, steamer, biohazard heads, special projects, doing the tunnel, cleaning bag and tack, which is very important, clean corridors, which is very successful. graffiti abatement. we have a partnership. so we're pretty proud of that program. we help business owners keep their properties, clean of graffiti. that's all i had for today. any questions? yeah a question, thank you for your presentation. enlightening when it comes to
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steam cleaning on business corridors, how is that? how is that? is that scheduled in some way? so it's sort of on an ongoing basis or it just is it does it by become a311 call or how is that? is it controlled or, the steamers respond to 311 calls from 311, they work in all parts of town. as i mentioned earlier, if it's a biohazard situation, you know, we'll we'll do the courtesy. but they have they have routes that they, they normally do within the zones in which they work in. so we, we broke the city up into zones and each zone has a number of staff members, including the litter patrol, those, the sweepers. and they also have steamers. we have steamers that go out every day in a different in a different zones. so they they have a, a route that they run through in
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those zones. and most of those are commercial zones. yeah but the responsibility basically for the frontage is the responsibility of the business owner or the property owner. and that's what we try to that's the message that we try to give out while we're doing some of our work. i see i noticed now with these little x x, along the curbs where the restaurants are outside, they have the little parklets. parklets thank you for that. anyway, so i noticed that when walking down past these, between the restaurant itself and the parklet, a lot of times i guess food will drop and oily stuff and it kind of gets like a like a ground into the concrete on the sidewalk. this, this dark stuff. so i was wondering if the steam cleaning or is it the homeowner or the business person that has to take care of that? or typically it's the business
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owner or the property owner's responsible party, if we get a311 call or we have a call with biohazards, we'll go in and take care of it. but the business owner of the property owner is supposed to handle that responsibility. now a lot of businesses have their own power washing crews that come out and do do the work. the community benefit districts, they also have their own steamers that go out and steam clean the frontage of their building. so we're not the only ones out there doing that work. you have power washing, which is different than steaming, that's going on all the time. every morning when i do my early morning inspection, a lot of businesses are out there with a power pressure washer cleaning the front of their business. so when stores open, they're nice and clean, they don't really have the sanitizing part that we do, but they're just generally just trying to move the debris from in front of their property. i have seen them with garden hoses
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washing. yeah. used garden hose. yeah. they all right. thank you. i see that every day. yeah. thank you for your good work. you're welcome. i have some questions. owns. great. just i want to say thank you so much. since i have, i have a business in tenderloin. i just want to make sure that i say this once i walk out of this door, i'm just any ordinary public and a small business owner. and my business is located in tenderloin. it has a unique landscape. so since i moved into the neighborhood, i have seen a significant change, positive change that was very impressive. i know, the broom support personnel that sweep the front of my corridor and the steamer. and i appreciate them so much. sweet and they really
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work. i can tell how much they want to make sure that that whole entire block stays clean and continuously being cleaned, i had an incident that. i just want to ask just a few questions, because. so then i understand as a business owner and i can talk to other business owners as well if they face the same challenges, because, again, this is tenderloin. we're talking about this biohazard at every single corridor. yeah, so on april 11th, i call recology to the, mention that my blue bin always get taken away, you know, every week. it's just get taken away and we know where it goes to. and but we are never we're not we don't go and approach the person that takes the blue bin because they need the blue bin. so the recology will bring another set, new sets. the following week. sometimes we go without a recycle bin for entire whole week on april 13th, which
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is a saturday, there was a clearing encampment across the street on leavenworth. gotcha. at 945 in the morning, my blue bin appeared in front of my building. great. i appreciate that very much. i have gone on a tour to kind of wash and understand how these encampments are cleared. when i went out, my bins are always locked. it was unlocked when i went out to see the bin is full of biohazards that doesn't belong to me. it was. it belongs to the encampment. so i. i wanted to understand what had happened, how the bins ended up there. then i watched the videos. so the encampment crew, dpw and all the other departments are involved in it. and one of the personnel brought this bin. i was inside my building. the roll up doors up and the slides, they
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can see me because you can see me through the window. he this person just left the bin with all the biohazard in it and then just walked away without any sort of. is this your bin? is this your garbage? what do we do about it? so he just left it there and i had to go out to clean up because again, this is tenderloin has a very unique landscape. if i don't clean this bin, it will be littered all over the sidewalk. so when i went and cleaned this bin, being upset is understated on my behalf. i just don't understand why this bin was not cleared before it got brought back to me. when i'm just across the street, or there's some community actions been taught, you know, like they can knock at the door and say, hey, this is your bin because it says for nine, nine less, i'm sure this is not your biohazards or your garbage because we just cleared
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encampment. those who have helped because you keep saying that you guys, this is the courtesy that you're doing for us. we appreciate it very much. we keep our corridor as clean as we can, as much as we can. with the partnership of dpw and cbd. but when this sort of things happens, what do we do? we're not trained in clearing up biohazards i cook for a living. i don't know how to clear these things up. so i personally, because i don't have staff on weekends morning, i start gloving myself a couple of apron covered as much as i can and start clearing up this bin and i found some stuff that i was very shocked to see, but at that time everybody left. so i did call 311. i bagged them 311. it's actually cbd tenderloin. cbd came and picked them up. do people that goes out and clear
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this encampment have proper trainings? when they're clearing this thing? encampment out because, you know, i don't know how to clear a biohazard. i'm not trained to clear biohazard. so if i call 311, mostly it takes up to four days. so, you know, the partnership with cbd, they're the clearing, so why don't they? you have pickups to clear all these residuals. and garbage is right. why it was not tossed. why did it got brought back to a business. so that would be my question. owens first question. so first of all, i apologize for what happened, we have a process for encampments. and as you know, we work with pd and health services, and we're there to support them when they, clear the site. then we come in and do what we have to do. i'm unsure why, the biohazard was in your in your can i have the date in my memory so i can look that up, see what happened on that day?
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but that's not our that's not our process. we don't we don't, make the areas more challenging than they already are. we're supposed to be there to clean up and make it pristine again. so i can investigate that. and get back to you if you like. i have the date, and you gave me the approximate time so i can look into it, but i can't really answer that question now. that's not our our process. that's not our procedure. we want to leave it better than when it was when we got there. so i'm sorry that happened. but we can we can get some information on that for you. thank you. and then the other thing that again, going back to partnership with recology. right. like i know recology wants you clear encampments. there's some garbage bin that's not belong to that encampment. you get left there for weeks. so we will call recology. but they don't answer the phone on the weekends. so what do we do? do we call dpw and ask for support? i would call 311. and to support you. we are a 24 hour operation. we have
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days wing and night shift weekends. day swing and night shift. we can work in seven days a week. so the best resource is to call 311. and we can. we can help you. okay even with the recology. because when some of the answers that i've gotten is that we don't do recology bins because it's not part of. we work real close with recology. we're not going to take the bin, but we will respond and address whatever situation is there. recology does their thing and we do ours. we do have a relationship. we need each other , so we support each other. what 311 is the best call to come to dpw and they will send somebody out to handle it. and you're right, the tl is a challenging area. yeah. and i do an early morning inspection every day. monday through friday. right. to identify hot spots and then i call in to my radio room. so when people come to work or open up their businesses, we try to make sure it's as clean as
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possible. and that's why we do the early morning inspection, because as we discussed here before, the unhoused people are just like us when we when we wake up, we stretch, we brush our teeth and we try to look for something to eat, and then we start moving. well, unfortunately, they don't have a refrigerator or a stove, so they go through the they go through the bins. sometimes come in search for food. right. and that's why we required the toters to be locked to kind of help us manage that. but sometime they're very creative and sometimes they do whatever to the locks and they get in and they're looking for food, and then they, they leave to debris. and that's where we come in to try to clean it up. no, i understand, i see that i get it, you know, like i'm not completely oblivious, but i just want to understand, like when this kind of situations happens, what do we do as a public? you we talk about collective effort. we are doing a collective
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effort. right? we want to keep city of san francisco clean and beautiful, and we can run a business. people can come into the neighborhood and everybody can enjoy. so that's the families and the residents. so but when these sort of things happen, it took three hours of my day when i could be doing something else, trying to figure out like, oh my gosh, i'm cleaning this. i'm freaking out. you know, i don't want to be in that situation because it's a everyday situation, not only for businesses in some of these hot spots, places in san francisco, but also for the people that live there. so we just want to make sure that, you know, the supports are given for us because we're not equipped to do any of these things and understand. so that's that's where i'm going. i'm not you know, i appreciate very much this has been lots of positive improvements in tenderloin. i'm very impressed, very pleased and very happy. and that that's that's what i want to continue making sure that we are working
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together or we can continue to help via 311. that's a great resource. they have direct contact with our radio room and our radio room is in contact with all of our folks in the field. yeah so that's the best way to handle it. thank you. does anyone else have any questions? all right, so i have just a couple, so you mentioned for the broom support, that a person goes ahead of the mechanical sweeper. yes, to make sure, you know, it doesn't get damaged, and i've noticed that, the sweepers don't always catch everything. do we have someone scheduled then to go after the sweeper for the items that the sweeper didn't catch, currently we do not. but the good thing is, every, scheduled route is in a zone, and we have a supervisor
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that is managing his crew within the zone, we can alert them to take care of whatever is left behind. that's something i'll mention to my soup tos tomorrow at our soup two meeting to make sure they. they double check on the sweeper. goes by a lot of times. the sweeper can't even, navigate the curb. and we've been talking about the tenderloin on leavenworth. we have the person that's issuing tickets and it's a weave in and out job where we can't even get to the get to the curb. so he's doing work in front, and he's capturing some of that stuff that the sweeper can't even get to. right, even though it's posted, even though we have mta writing tickets, some blocks still have 50% of the cars parked there. so we do the best we can. we sweep in between and we're on a route. so everything's timed as we know. so they have to make sure they make that next route as well. so we do the best we can with what
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we got on those challenging streets. but i will bring that up at the soup two meeting tomorrow. yeah. yeah i think it's just as it's going by with the, the broom circulating, sometimes the air will get leaves up and back on the sidewalk that were originally on the curb line and stuff. so i've just noticed that over the years. yeah, we watched some of the sweepers, they don't know we're coming, but we're watching them sometime. and if they don't turn the water on as high as they're supposed to, sometimes that generates a little bit of dust and doesn't pick up all the loose leaves. so we've been working on that with our drivers as well. all right. and then i noticed that there's, you know, when you're, you have a call at, a corner or something or there's debris that you guys pick up and you have to look 50ft, in both directions, you know, a block is larger than 50ft, what, what happens about the middle of the
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blocks? do we do we double check that at all while we're walking by? or. so if the if we get a311 call in the middle of a block, we respond and we look both directions to make sure there's nothing on that block that we're leaving, and then when we report to a 311 call on a corner, that's when we look at the other three corners. and if there's something there, even, trash receptacle, sometimes they, they're overflowing. oh, yeah. so they, they're, they're supposed to go get that as well. so the corners are pretty much taken care of. what you're asking is could they go all the way to the end of the corner is what. yeah. or at least like take a look down and be like, is there anything big like if there's a couple leaves or whatever little things, fine. but like, i know, double check to make sure that the blocks are, like, just look a little further. yeah. you know, i think that's reasonable. they can look to the to the corner and see if
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there's anything there. yeah, just pick it up. yeah makes sense. all right. and then. okay. let's see. so the litter patrol and the broom support, their baseline city services. correct. and you said independent of they work independent of each other, right? yeah, yeah, but they're they are like baseline. so when you mentioned that, when a cbd is, is formed that, it's the cbd and the business or property owners responsibility for that frontage. right. my understanding has always been that, cbds are to supplement and , you know, kind of help public works out, not take on the full
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responsibility, so i just wanted some clarification there. well in the tl, we work with john every day. he has a deficit within his organization. he can call us and we'll help him out and vice versa. but my understanding is they have a designated area that they're that they're responsible for. and if they can't handle it, they can call us. and if we have available staff, we can help. but the ultimate responsibility, which was casted in stone with them is to handle that area, maybe i'm missing something, but yeah, maybe, maybe i can try to clarify a little bit. so the baseline for litter patrol has historically been defined as 311 calls for little patrol. so we don't have, a sort of on a, ongoing proactive, baseline for litter patrol, but and, and the
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state law makes maintenance of the sidewalk adjacent to a property. the adjacent property owner's responsibility. and so when a cbd gets formed, if their bylaws include cleaning the sidewalk area is actually the property owner's responsibility, not the city's responsible party. and so the cbd can be used for cleaning those sidewalk frontages, we have been working on, looking at a new way to kind of capture what the baseline equivalent would be to responding to 311 requests, because we have done a lot more proactive, cleanups in areas that may or may not have cbds. and so if the baseline historically was just us being reactive, then if we've added a proactive crew, it doesn't, it's not reflected in that, but i
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think the, the point in terms of what the cbd is, yes, cbds can only supplement the city cannot reduce our level of service where a cbd exists. so we're very careful to note that many of the calls that go to cbds are calls that wouldn't come to the city. they would. we would then go out and notify the property owner. so private graffiti, you know, cleaning on the sidewalk, the big area where there where it's a little bit, tricky to quantify, i think is when we do these courtesy abatements because in my belief, i don't know who wrote the state law. i don't know when it was written, but i don't think they were expecting property owners to deal with things like waste on the sidewalk. i think the idea was you got to keep it clean of debris and litter, but people aren't expecting property owners to have to address that. and so that's why as as a department, we've always said technically, legally, we're not responsible for cleaning the sidewalk. we do
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it in these cases because we think it's a reasonable thing to do, and so what we i think one of the things that maybe we weren't quite as clear as we could have been in the presentation, is that what we do clean in terms of the sidewalk, are the areas where there is no adjacent property owner assigned. so those corners where the curb ramps are found, the city's responsible for that because there's no owner technically responsible. and then we also do a lot of steam cleaning and power washing around market street, which is actually the city's responsibility. i think it's the only sidewalks in the city that are assigned to the city for maintenance. and then things like plazas as, city trash cans. we do regular cleaning of, so i've gone on a long time. but my point with that was that the baselines for the litter patrol are based on 311 responses, and we are not reducing our baseline of service where there's a cbd,
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but the cbds are, are or and or the property owner, depending on what the cbds, you know, bylaws were when they were founded, are responsible technically for cleaning of the sidewalk, with the exception that we will always help with those those hazards, those that i mentioned, does that help or did i just muddy the. no, actually, it really did, i think it was just the way it was worded. i was like, wait a minute, i'm confused, so thanks for that clarification. that does help, and i know that, you know, you guys, we work with the cbd's, with three, one one requests when a tickets closed. it's the cms survey. this, request, does it say whether it was closed by a public works employee or an outside entity? and does that affect the number if it if it doesn't, if it's just like, oh,
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it's closed. we're good. so the for the cbd's who are working within the 311 system, we won't have a, a service request created in cms unless or until it gets sent to us. so the agreement for most of them is if they're not able to complete, complete the request within a certain amount of time, then it comes to public works and it's at that moment that we'll have our own service request created. so it shouldn't show up in our data if someone else closed it, because that would have happened before we had a request. gotcha. and that's how we try to manage who actually did the closure. yeah. all right, and then okay, so, let's say it goes to a cbd, and they're not able to get to it. and so they pass it on, is that when the, the like i think we try to get it within 48 hours
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or 72 hours. so it depends, is that when that timer starts. pretty much. yes. all right. cool. just wanted to clarification. thank you. i think my last question is, is, are there any other standards that you guys think, like, were maybe like wishy washy on or compared to other cities that they do that you're like, maybe we should consider it, but we're not sure if we have the budget or is there. yeah. just any additional that you are thinking about adding, or suggested maybe you just personally think that it's a good idea or i was mainly focused on the ones that we have. yeah but we could look to other cities, and see what they have. i think we do a really good job. yes. in san francisco. yeah. no, this is a hard city to
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keep clean. definitely yeah. i'm just. yeah, i compared if we could just review, maybe a couple other big cities and compare to see if our standards match. i, i'm assuming they probably already do, but, just because we are establishing the, the baseline, so i just want to make sure that we, we haven't missed anything. and we mentioned apwa in our, in our presentation and a lot of public works around the nation uses apwa as a guideline. so we have a connect connection with them. and so we get our certification from them on an annual basis. and that means that we're complying with what the majority of the nation is doing. but we can still work with other cities and find out what they're doing. yeah, yeah, yeah. i just think it would be a good idea to check it out, since we're establishing it now, like, do our due diligence, i think that's it for
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me. thank you very much for your presentation. and i mean, i besides looking a little bit farther down the block when we're cleaning the curbs, i and checking with other cities, i don't i don't think i have any other suggestions at the moment. okay thank you. yeah, i have a quick commissioner. quick question. yeah thinking of the street sweepers and the meter maids that go before them and tagging all the cars along the road, does the department get any of that revenue they receive from the tickets? i'm going to defer that i know it, i know what the answer is. the question i have to put out there. the department does not receive the revenue from the tickets. it is something we've, we've discussed at various times, and ultimately, it's a citywide policy decision, we brought it
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up again this year as part of our budget, budget proposals, but currently we don't receive the, those, revenues, sadly. thank you. agreed. yeah. is there anything we can do as a commission, to maybe help with that at all? because when you know, there's cars parked on the curb and the sweeper can't get to it, that means there's just more dirt and there's more debris. and that means next week, the sweeper has twice as much work. and probably the broom person, the pan and broom employees has more work than two. so that's. yeah. if we could make some changes to that, that'd be great. i think, one of the challenges for the city, generally speaking, is because historically, that money has
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always gone to the sfmta. they, you know, they count on it. they rely on it for their budget. and so we have proposed, perhaps there could be a modest increase to the ticket fee that could then be allocated to public works, and i think there's been some concerns that, of course, the people who would be most impacted by that increase are probably the people who can least afford it. and so this it's a tricky situation. of course, public works would love to receive those revenues entirely or some fraction of them. but, you know, without affecting another department's budget, there doesn't seem to be a good way to do that unless we did a fee increase in there. i think that's the primary concern, yeah. having said that, you know, if the commission wanted to pass a resolution or
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take take, write a letter of some sort or take some sort of action that that would be available to you, but i think that's kind of the balance that's been tricky to achieve. like now that it's been this way for so long, if we took some of the revenues, it would affect another city agency. and then do we want to risk, negatively impacting kind of the, the populations who would be who, who would likely be least able to afford that impact? yeah, okay. i had one last point. i just wanted to make everyone aware that puc, we partner with puc and a lot of the mechanical street sweeping is to prevent the grit and dirt from going into their catch basin. yeah. so that reduces the amount of debris that they have to process at their various treatment plants around the city. so we're we have a really good relationship with them. and most of our sweeping is to decrease the amount of silt and dirt
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going into their property, which is a catch basin. yeah. and they do fund some of our operations for that very reason. so they're a good partner agency to us. and they actually pay for some of the work that we do. okay. that's awesome. thank you. thank you. do we have any other questions? i have one question. do we have time? oh, yeah. okay i have i just have a question about dumping. i know we didn't really talk about it. talking about litter, extra revenue. i'm not so sure how much extra we get. it just there's some dumping happens throughout the city, you know? do dpw force the citations or. you know, i don't know, like, is it out there? do people really follow the rules and pay their citations? just curiosity. well, in the candlestick area we have a huge problem of illegal dumping, if that's what you're referring to, both both neighborhoods that i
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work in, tenderloin. there's also a huge issues and challenge with dumping. so does in candlestick. yeah for sure. so in the bayview area we're working with the camera company to help us. catch some of the folks that are, that are dumping on our right of way that we have to pick up and dispose of. yeah, yeah, actually, this week we're going to be meeting with them to actually deploy the cameras. so we're really excited about that for the bayview area, and the tenderloin, we don't have a process right now to install any surveillance cameras, even though we generate a lot of debris from that area. it's kind of an apples and oranges. the tenderloin is mainly encamped mint debris that we're hauling. and the bayview is construction type material. that's contractor is just coming in cover of darkness and dumping and saying bye, so it's two, two different dynamics there, dpw hauls the
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debris that we collect from the encampments in our litter patrol trucks and our flatbed trucks. it's part of our tenderloin initiative. we have a joint field operation. as i spoke about earlier, and other resources in the tl, so i really don't understand. are you saying do we collect it and dump it, or how do we do that or what? what so i have proof that it's not only unhoused people that do this dumping. and i want to be able to help, you know, if it's something that department of public works do give people citations because we have hundreds of hours of videos that folks come from another neighborhood in their truck and just dumping. the reason i know, because they're dumped right in front of my front door of my business. right. so i'm always wondering who's doing all this dumping. so when we go and look at these times and i have their truck numbers and who's the person and all the stuff, so i just want to know how do me as a
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public member help dpw? because if this citation do exist, is it helpful for dpw? we have public information officers that work in every zone, the one in the tl is very, very busy. yeah, because folks close their business, get their trash, and then look at both ways 50ft this way and 50ft that way. and then they put their bag by the trash receptacle. yes. well you can't you can't do that. so we're working hard trying to manage that. so any information that you have will be helpful to us. we do issue citations, but we like to address it from the front end first with the outreach. so that they know what they're supposed to do and then use the hammer at the end of the process. right. we'd like to educate that outreach first, and then if we have to go there, then we go there, right? yeah just to add on to that, we are we do try to follow up. if we
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have evidence of we've and we have relied on, photos and videos from neighbors to really prosecutes not the right word because it's not a criminal, but to issue administrative citations and, to try to hold people accountable. so if you have, evidence and we know we can identify the person, we will absolutely do that. we have a, our, our outreach and enforcement team is very eager. we if we can make a few good examples, we might be able to deter more, other people from doing it. word gets around quickly. so definitely, we've been working a lot with letting the cbd's know that if they have video as well, and particularly we just talked we just talked about this two weeks ago with the tenderloin cbd because they know who has cameras, so we're absolutely willing to follow up on information if we can identify who who the responsible party is, we will issue citations and do everything we
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can to make sure that those that those stick right. we just don't want them to keep doing it, because that does encourage others to do so. so i thought the citation might be helpful just to say, hey, we're holding you accountable, right? so cool. thank you. you're welcome. what's the best way to, like reach one of the outreach, staff, when you do have that evidence, i mean, 311 is really a tool that i think that's the best way. and, our outreach and enforcement team will will check those requests as well. and, i mean, if it's through one of the cbds, of course, we have kind of direct they have direct relationships with the outreach and enforcement folks in their neighborhood. but for general public, call 311, we do look at those requests and we will follow up on them. okay. cool all right. do we have any more questions? all right. i think we're good, secretary fuller, please open public comment.
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members of the public who wish to make three minutes of comment in person on item five, the bureau of street environmental services standards of cleanliness may line up against the wall furthest from the door. if commenting from in the chamber. if you are commenting from outside the chamber, please press the raise your hand button in the webinar or star three on your phone to be recognized. and we do not have any members of the public in person who, showed interest in speaking on this. we do not have any callers on the line at the moment. so that concludes public comment on this item. all right. secretary fuller, please call the next item okay. and item six is the sanitation and streets, commission land acknowledgment statement, in proposal, proposal. and i'll present this item, though i'm sure chair
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hartwig shulman, will have more to say about it since, she has been integral to this process as well. if i could ask sfgovtv to show the clerk pc, that would be very helpful. okay. thank you, so to give everyone a little history, a reminder for those who have been with the commission since our inception. let's see, in november of 2022, the, the property. oh, actually, it wasn't november 2022. it was earlier than that, in 2022, the proposition b implementation working group implemented, that
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the commission adopt a land acknowledgment statement in in alignment with the city's and the department's racial equity goals. and then later in november of that year when, the commission had been formed, doctor cordero of the association of ramaytush ohlone and the public works racial equity lead, beth rubenstein, led a presentation to this commission about what land acknowledgment statements are and kind of gave a sketch, a sketch of how the commission might develop one for itself. and during that time, since that presentation on the working group, which is consisted of beth rubenstein, now chair, kimberly hartman shulman, as well as our former chair, mario magnum and myself have been working together researching other land acknowledgment statements by other commissions,
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as well as, other cultural organizations within the city and region. and we've gone through multiple draft versions of the statement and, and have been conferred thing during that process with the association of ramaytush ohlone as well, and want to give them special thanks for their assistance on that. always good to have, their perspective on, on the what we had been thinking about and then also engaged, commission stakeholders, both parts of the department and other stakeholders who were brought up to us. and so, today, the draft statement that we have is to get the commission's feedback on it, and in the near future, would be to adopt a statement and an implement action policy. and so, what we could read i if the, the
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proposed statement is that the san francisco sanitation and streets commission acknowledges we're on unseated ancestral homeland of the ramaytush ohlone. the original inhabitants of what is now the san francisco peninsula. we recognize that the ramaytush ohlone, understand the intricate, connected of interconnectedness of all things and have maintained harmony in nature, with with nature for millennia. we honor the ramaytush ohlone peoples for their enduring commitment to mother earth. as part of san francisco public works, we affirm our responsibility in maintaining our public spaces as stewards of the public right of way, by cleaning and greening throughout the city in clear collaboration with our communities, so as to respect the land on which we now reside. indigenous peoples from many nations, make their home in this region. today, we commit to prioritizing prioritizing policies and programs to equitably, equitably benefit
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marginalized members of the community, including american indians, while also striving for environmental sustainability. so that is our our draft statement, and certainly something that the commissioners are would love to get feedback on. we may hear public comment on as well, and then, here is kind of just a proposed implementation, policy that we might include. and you know, for example, we could, some commissions, they just read it each time by the chair, if this commission so chooses, we could do that or the commissioners could take turns reading the statement. and if they have any additional comments to go along with that, at the at the beginning of a meeting. and then if the commission has any, sponsored events, that the statement would be read ahead of that, and then
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the statement would also be, included on the commission's home page of the, of their of our website, as well as on our agendas. so that's a kind of that that is our proposal for, for both the statement and the implementation policy. but certainly i don't think we were thinking any of this would be in stone and wanted to make sure that the commission, the full commission and the public had an opportunity to speak on this. so i'm happy to take questions or suggestions. and of course, chair hartwig shulman, if you have any comments as well. yeah. yeah. we we've been working on this for over a year now, we have had multiple drafts, i really wanted to make sure that, the statement represented us and wasn't, you know, just a copy and paste from other commissions, so we worked
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closely with beth rubenstein and doctor cordero, and i'm very grateful for all of their input and help with this, but yeah, if you guys have any suggestions as, or changes or modifications, and then i guess, do we want to. i can read it every meeting or if we want to take turns, i'm open to that. yeah, commissioner. me. sorry oops. okay, i think is it a it's a beautiful statement, but i do wonder on the idea of reading it at at every meeting, like, is that sort of standard for other commissions around the city or. i guess i was thinking it might be more like a once a year type of thing. or is it. it does vary, many commissions read it every single time, some do it on
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a quarterly basis or or or even less frequently. yeah i, i just, i don't want to say time is money doesn't sound like the right thing, but, you know, we have a lot of staff and spend time and if it there's a lot of things that we have to do already as part of these meetings, you know, with sort of all the accessibility and those are all very important. so i just trying to want to be mindful of people's, people's time and sort of the public resources that go into really funding that time. yeah yeah. i agree with commissioner semi on this or, i'm, i'm sort of leaning to the idea, it seems extraordinary to do it at every meeting. i think, quarterly would be a reasonable, occurrence of this happening. so that's my comment. this is very beautiful, very empowering and
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inspiring. and thank you. it's that's what i was hoping for. yeah, i had a goosebumps reading them. so it's great that we honoring them. you know because it is after all, we're living in those lands, i don't mind if chair hardwick reads each time we're meeting because it's just a paragraph. it doesn't take that much time, but again, it's i think when you're reading it, it's just reminding people about the historical part of where we are right now in the current environment that we are living right now. it's just that that's just my thought. but yeah, but maybe just one person reading it. yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. no, i think he was talking. he was talking about, you know, one meeting, commissioner sammie, one meeting. me one meeting. oh, i'm meeting you. yeah i think that's how he. oh, i see that. yeah. okay, okay. i thought of
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us. yeah. okay. oh, okay. yeah but i thought, you know, since a pledge. yeah since you our chair, if you can read it, you know, it's a representation of all of us anyhow. so. yeah yeah. i mean, i'm fine with it. i mean, it takes a couple of minutes, but don't we? our meetings. you are. we have it. the room designated until 2 p.m, and we're usually out of here before that. so i don't feel like it, it takes up too much time. i am open to doing it quarterly, but but, yeah, i. i wonder if we do it every meeting, if it'll wind up, kind of just being like. people zone out and not really pay attention . then i wonder if it would be more impactful if we did it quarterly. and i don't know if anyone has any input on on that.
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i think you're right. yeah yeah. oh, decisions, but is everyone okay with the wording? oh yeah. yeah. okay, do we need to vote on this? so this is an informational item. and the goal would be at either the next meeting or a meeting in the near future, we would actually take a vote on it. okay i think something as important as this. we also hopefully would get some public comment on it as well. so hopefully that would be that would be helpful, maybe should we open it up to public comment. are you everyone good with that? so secretary fuller, please open to public comment. okay, so members of the public who wish to make three minutes of comment on item six, the draft sanitation and streets commission land acknowledgment statement may line up against the wall for this from the door
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and if commenting from outside the chamber, please press the raise your hand button in the webinar or star three on your phone to be recognized. okay, and we do not have any members who have approached on this item to speak in person. however we do have one caller on the line, caller, let's see. you will have three minutes to speak, and i'll provide you with a 32nd notice when your time is about to expire. so, commissioners, my name is francesca da costa, and i thank you. commissioners have to do
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due diligence. i think one of the commission's that you can pay attention to is the san francisco public utilities commission. and how they address the situation. this is a very sensitive situation because most of you commissioners are not educated on issues. if you read the general management plan, you can find out for yourself which tribe is acknowledged. i don't want to name the tribe, but i want to put the burden on you now instead of just reading. it
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is much better that you are. commit yourselves to good actions. so we have shamann all over san francisco. we have archeological sites all over san francisco that you all have to pay attention to. and the two individuals who are pushing for a certain tribe to be acknowledged that is wrong. that is simply wrong. and that's all i'll say. commissioners you have to do due diligence, be educated on issues your heart has to be in a better place so that you can take all of us to a good place. thank you very much. thank you. caller and that is
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our only caller on this item. so that concludes public comment. all right. secretary fuller, please call the next item. is that where we're at? yes. so item seven is new business initiated by commissioners. and this is an opportunity for commissioners to make announcements and raise topics to be added to future commission agendas. and it is an informational item. do you guys have any. okay, so hearing no further questions, mr. fuller, please open to public comment. okay. members of the public who wish to make three minutes of comment on item seven, new business may line up against the wall for this from
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the door. and if you're commenting from outside the chamber, please press the raise your hand button in the webinar or star three on your phone to be recognized. and we do not have any in-person, commenters on this, and we do not have any callers either. all right. and so we don't have anything more the hearing, no further discussion. secretary fuller, please call the next item, so the next item is, general public comment continued if necessary. and since we didn't exceed the 15 minute limit on item one, this item is not, necessary. all right. then, this commission. well, i guess, mr. secretary, is there any further business? there is no further business on the agenda. all right. and this commission will meet again on may 20th, 2024, hearing no objection, or are we good with
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dismissing for the day? sorry yes. all right, so hearing no objections, i will adjourn the meeting. thank you. thank you. yeah. i was like, is there we go
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