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chief scott, it is my honor to present officer john norment of bayview station to be recognized by the police commission tonight. john has been a member of the department for 17 years. he h bayview for almost 15 years. his first three ye at bayview, he was on the third street foot beat, where he s also t■he station's representative for three separate neighborhood community groups. the next 12 years, john was on the public housing detail, where he was in charge of coordinating police community events, including turkey, backpack, y and christmas tree giveaways. he represented the department at multiple community events regarding new construction of public housing developments and represented the department in monthly meetings with the public housing development managers. he was in charge of e reading partners program, where officers volunteered to tutor bret harte

elementary students who were behind in their reading skills. he was active in the wilderness program, where he drove neighborhood youth on camping, hiking, and rafting excursions. john has been a mentor and a friend to all the officers at bayview station. he has a great joy for his job, a great joy for his family and it's with sadness that i have to say this, but john is his career in?y■ t comi, so that's why i wanted to acknowledge him tonight. in september, john will be retiring from the police department in 2020. john was diagnosed with a severe, medical condition that i can't pronounce the name. he told me what it was and there's no way i could do it. but he told me i was hisutenant at the time and john had come to work since then. every day he stillappy, smiley guy, a mentor to the young officers, great with the community. he never he never complained about it. he never let them down. and it's just it's going to be tough

to lose him at the station because he's been such a great influence on the officers and he's been if you look at if you're looking for a picture of an ambassador for community policing, it's officer john norman. therefore, i'd like to present to you officer john norman of bayview station. please. come on, come on. up we want to allow you the you can choose not to. i'd want like to thank the captains. i completely beside myself for this, but i'd like to thank my wife and my kids who didn't get to see me for 17 years. so reunited and reacquaint soon. and also thank you for your support. this is a great city and m going to miss it. thank you. well hold on, i'm going to give the chief an opportunity to speak real quick. and then i think some other commissioners have some things we'd like to share as well. thank you. president elias. norman, i've seen you out there and we've

talked out in the field and everything that captain connor said. i've seen with my own eyes just how you engage with people, i always friendly, always upbeat. at least when i've seen you. and i hearst your nature. thank you. it's been a long career for you. it's a lot of time that, as you said, you've spent away you've done a, and you've touched a lot of people within the department and in the community. so again, thank you. and, we will definitely miss what you brought to the city and what you've brought to everywhere that you work and to the family. thank you for sharing, john, with us. so thank you very much. tha wanf all, i'm so happy you're representing bayview. that's my obviously home home district. so glad to see that. second question is, are you really retiring orou doing what people do as they retire but then end up working more work part time? a little bit more? yeah. before i was, before■ i s

here with the city, i was in the city of walnut creek for 18 years. oh, wow. so i've been doing this aon all of that was in the police. well, i started out in the police department as the custodian. oh, i put myself through, throh college. and so, i don't know, sometimes i'm not sure if i got went up or down, but anyway, it's, it's been overwhelming. wow. what i want to say congratulations. and one of the things that really sticks out to me, what the captain said about you is not only a good friend, but a mentor. and i think that that that's something that i think is rare nowadays, is finding a mentor that you can look up to. and not only that, but a mentor who takes you under their wing and really guides you and shows you the steps, i have been fortunate enough to have a few amazing mentors in my life, and i can tell you that they make such an impact on just who you are and how you handle yourself and how you conduct yourself, both personally and professionally. and the fact

that you're being recognized for that skill set, ispeaks volumes, because not many people, can do it. and the fact that you do it and do it, apparently. well, i want to commend you and thank you from someone who has benefited from great mentorship because it is a huge, it's a huge thing. and i think at, again, it's oftentimes overlooked. i also want to thank not only you for your service, but i want to thank your family because it's really them all sacrifices that they have endured for many years that allows you to be here today. the missed games, the single parenting, the missed holidays. you know, policing is not a 9 to 5 job. so i want to thank the family for allowing us to benefit from his time and dedication while he is away from you. and thank youorour sacrifice because without your sacrifice, he wouldn't be here and being able to give everything he has to the city and to the fellow officers, which i think really it resonates. and when we have good

officers that mentor:q and teach other officers, especially young officers, it goes such a long way. and that's how cultures change. that's how change in organization happens. and it's so important. so i'm really sad to see you again. congratulations. and i hope that you thoroughly enjoy retirement, actual retirement, not let me still work type of retirement and take some time and just have fun. so thank you. that's awfully kind. commissioner benedicto. thank you very much, president elias. and congratulations again, officer, both on this recognition and on your long tenure. and congratulations on your retirement, you know, echoing what what the chief and what president ly said, i do want to acknowledge your family, you know, and we i mentioned this just last week that, you know, the officers do a service to our city. but the families are also in service to the city for what they to allow you to serve the city. i know you have members of your family here if you would like. no

obligation. you're welcome to introduce them. if take an opportunity, please do. this is my wife, jennifer. my son mason, my son merrick, my son lanedaugr in law, elizabeth. wderful. thank you all. so much for coming. and congratulations to you. commissioner yanez oh, wait, there's more. there's you got. yeah, yeah, yeah. you may to the stand. thank you, community. thank you for your service to san francisco and specifically to the bayview. i know that, we talk about community policing a lot, but someone that takes the time to not onen but tutor young people, you know, that's a holistic approach. policing isn't solely enforcing the law. policing is alsoetting young people know and letting the community know that we wear many hats. right. and that in order to be successful in life, you have to be able to what they call code switch, right? and sometimes if you could actually

communicate, make an impact on young people, it demonstrates that you have that willingness, you have that humility. so i thank you for your sacrifice. i thank your family for letting us have his energy to keep our our streets safe. i hope you enjoy retirement. commissioner or commissioner clay. all right. thank you, madam president. so i'm the newbie, officer norman. so i'm. this is my second meeting. so last week, i got to see the sort of protocol and see one of your colleagues also received this award. so what i want to do is congratulations to you on your retirement. but also thank you forour service to th community. what you do each and every day is very difficult. people don't realize that and you get up and you do it because this is something you do and this is something you believe in, and you do it at the best you can, each and every day. i had a gentleman who was on this commission many, many years ago who, if you're a sports fan or a football player, his name was burl toler. he was on that■a grt usf dons team, the 51 team was

uninvited, untied, and mr. toler, one of the things he said to him, myself and his son who were roommates at cal, i played he says. do your best and your best will be good enough. and each and every day, based upon what i've heard, i know each and every day you did your best. and everybody looked at you doing your best, and they got to see that. the idea that you had been a mentor to many, they got to see how you done things and they're going to they're going to you're going to leave, but they're going to remember that and they're going to say, you know what? you know, officer norman, this is how he would do it. and i learned from somebody who was the best because you are the best. you as a public servant each and every day, each and every one of you who serves in the public. i think you each you each deserve a trophy. everybody says everyone doesn't get a trophy, but all you, everyone yourself and your department. these other departments of public servants, you give your all each and every day for everyone. so yes, you do deserve a trophy each and every day. but you you are the mvp. you are the all star. and i want to thank you very much for your service and best wishes. okay. commissioner yee■, thank you vey

much. there. president elias, i just want to thank you, officer john, for all your hard work, i know you put out 17 years in the housing. i guess the housing unit in the bayview hunters point. it's as, many of you guys will know, it's a big development. quite a few youth out there, i have worked out e, and, to outreach to the kids out there and working on the programs and wilderness programs that you successfully have. you know, tutor and mentor these kids. you probably change so many lives over there that, we want to thank you for that. all you have done keep them safe and safer. so thanks again for your service, and we'll see you out there when you're coming back part time. and thank the family for all your support, as i say, i want to give you guys a as the weekly all the services,

recognition. i know you got the monthly. so thank you very much there. officer john norman, commissioner walker thank you, president elias. thank you. congratulations i won't repeat, but i agree with everything that's been said, i do want to say that there opportunities for coming back and being the mentor, a good mentor you are on your hour, you know, at your demand instead of, you know, taking away from the familyo what everybody has mentioned, that you know, the, the, the mentoring aspect of passing along what has worked so well with the community. engagement is really important, and there are a lot of opportunities now with the with the■ department ad some more programs. so thank you and thank you and we'll miss you full time. but we'll see you part time. thank you sergeant.

at this time, iflike to make public comment regarding line item one, please approach the podium. we have a public commen. i had to get up here. my name is tanita rockmore thompson. i am the director of racial equity and recruitment and senior trial attorney at the department of police accountability. but prior to that, i was at the san francisco district attorney's office, and john norman was actually one of my witnesses in an officer involved■ shooting matter at trial that i had,ú and was absolutely one of the best officers that i've ever worked with, is a mentor to these officers, because if i needed a cell phone number, he was going to give it to me. you know, they hate to give their cell phone numbers to the da's were absolutely amazing. and thank you. oh, thank you, your family, for supporting him. absolutely. i just had to come up here and

say that because it was always work with john. and he became basically a friend and family ro years at the da's office. oh, thank you for sharing. miss thompson's a hard sell, so if you're getting her praise and the family can get up for the next one, and that police commission right after work hours, i know the family. yeah, go on up right. and there is noent on line item one, two housekeeping items before we continue line item seven andin 12 e and 12 f have been removed from tonight's agenda line. item two general public comment. at ts ie to address the commission for up to two minutes on items that do not appear on tonight's agenda, but are within the subject matter jurisdiction of the police commission under police commission. rules of order. during public comment, neither

police or ppe personnel nor commissioners are required to respond to questions by the public, but may provide a brief response. alternatively, you may submit public comment in either of the following ways. email the secretary of the police commission at sfpd. commission at sfgov. org or written comments may be sent via us postal service to the public safety building, located at 1245 third street, san francisco, california. 94158. if you would like to make public comment, please approach the podium. hi folks, i'm h brown and i want■7o send john to paris. i want to send some of our firefighters to rome, to and tokyo is a good place. i think we should have. here's another legacy item for you. drifting down from, from my, very good, california san francisco. marijuana. ha ha, san francisco foreign■ legion. we've got a peace corps. it's worked . let's do a corps where i think

that one of the big problems with the san francisco police and fire departments is that they're inbred. i mean, that's okay. i'm a hillbilly from the ozarks and all that, but there's an extent to which you got to spread out and bring in some different culture into your into your firehouses and into your stations. and we can do that by sending start with a couple dozen people a year, nurses, firefighters, cops for sure. but firefighters, did you know that, the san francisco plugs are different than any plugs anywhere in the world? the hook ups are different, and if you get a 10 or 12 people here for two years, they're going to know that system backwards. and after ten years, y people coming froml over the world to assist us in an earthquake. and they will know our systems, they will know our fire plugs, they have mellowed out. our culture.

good evening. police commission chief scott and the executive director of police accountability. for the record, my name is chris klein. last week i p on a statement that was very direct of some egregious conduct of a senior official within the city and county of san francisco. i turn thaer 11th. as each of youl be making tough decisions in the coming days related to that issue. tonight, i want to focus on peace, unind community. a few of you know that i'm the ceo of pavan. prejudice and vience ends now. we are local and have offices in boston, dc, maryland, west virginia and pennsylvania and expanding elsewhere. we provide, as you know, complex investigative, investigative skill set as detailed in the issue at hand. last week. however, we also offer community research on reducing prejudice, violence and bringing communities together. we do both for critical and crucial insight

from the local community, first responders, and other civic and political leaders. the last few days, weeks and longer have brought great divide locally ano bring our community together with no hatred and with peaceful intentions. no one should have to worry about voting and then worrying about getting assaulted just because they voted for what they believed in. tonight i'm pledging to the police commission, the police department, and the chief of police that i, along with my nonprofit, will work alongside each of you, the city and county of san francisco, bringing a peaceful san francisco back at pavan. we believe in strong individuals for stronger families, for the strongest communities. but not just our community, the ones next to our community. the prejudice and violence needs to stop immediately. thank you.

good evening, commissioners. good evening chief. my name is jay connor. b ortega and i'm co-president of iconic d3. i want to take this time to thank the men and women of the san francisco police department for the incredible work they do to keep us safe. i also want to welcome commissioner clay to the police commission and mirror what he had stated at the last meeting. your job as commissioners is not to interpret what you think. the laws we pass mean. your job is to follow them as written. now, i come here constantly to warn you all that if you do not allow sfpd to do their jobs, people like me explain to the public that you all put criminals over community, which you do, and we put forward ballot measures that force you all to rewrite dgos as we're currently doing now, if last week's meeting is any indication of what,

this commission is going to go outside of the scope of prop e, and we will see. yet another ballot measure which will continue to limit this commission even more. now personally, i have no problem if we, the people, continue to pass ballot initiatives until there is no police commission. but if you all want the people of san francisco to believe this commission's ability to serve our residents, then i expect you all to follow the law as it is written. thank you. and there's no further public comment. line item three chief's report discussion weekly crime trends and public safety concerns provide an overview of offenses, incidents, or events occurring in san francisco having an impact on public safety. commission discussion on unplanned events and activities. thees will be limited to determining whether to calendar for future meeting. chief scott, thank you. good evening, president elias. vice president carter commission and executive director henderson in

the public. starting this weeks crime trends, we are still at 32% reduction in total. part one crimes. that's a difference of about 9000 crimes fewer than this time last year. property crimes is at 34% and violent crimes is at 11% below where we were this time last year. homicides, are down by 38. we have 18 year to date. we had 29 year to date this time last year. our homicide clearance rate year to date is 94, 13 incidents. 13 of those 18 homicides were firearm related. and in rms of gun related crime, our total gun victims are down 29% from where they were. this year, 121 compared to 86 this year. in terms of property crimes, the property crimes are

as i said last week, are really the reason that we have such a significan overall crime. our larcenies are down significantly ins are down 55, year to date. so we have just over 5000 car break ins compared to over 11,000 oalmost 11,000 this time last year. in terms of significant ents for the week, i talked about this last week just briefly, but it's period. d a homicide that occurred on mission between 16th and 17th. this was on monday, july 9th at 12:17 a.m. the victim succumbed to his injuries on the scene and was actually was transported. in stable condition. another victim was transported in stable condition. i'm sorry. so there were two victims at all. there was also multiple vehicle collision at that scene that resulted in at least four vehicles being damaged in that vehicle collision. and we believe that was as a result of

the shooting ashat investigation is still ongoing with no arrests at this time. iu can please call the sfpd anonymous tip line at (415) 575-4444. in terms of shootings, there were four non-fatal shootings this week, resulting in four victims. the first one was on july 8th at post in laguna, this was during a carjacking where a victim was shot by two subjects who produced a gun and shot one of the victims. that car was later recovered, but the victim, i mean, the suspect is still outstanding. so that investigation is ongoing on july 8th, there was a shooting at the 400 block of eddy street in the tenderloin. this happened at 3:46 a.m, when the subject entered the lobby of a residential building. the th building, did not recognize the subject and refused to let him enter the subject, thenhot the victim and ran away from the

location. that victim is listed in stable condition with non-life threatening injuries that investigation is ongoing. no arrests at this time. the third shooting was on july 14th at 958 600 block of o'farrell in the tenderloin. this happened at 9:58 a.m. as i said, the victim was walking in the area when he was struck by a bullet. no further information was obtained by the victim. nonlife threatening injuries. and that is still under investigation. july 12th at 3:05 a.m. at larkin and olive in the tenderloin. the victim was walking when he saw two subjects arguing. the victim heard gunshots and returned to his residence, and then later realized he had been shot. he had a gunshot wound. the victim was transported, was in stable condition, non-life threatening injuries, and that investigation istill. no arrests at this time. a couple of other significant incidents. this one is tragic. on july 13th, which was this past

saturday, tenderloin officers responded to a suicide. where a gentleman by the name of ellie. i'm sorry. this was the baby. the father of a three year old named ellie. lorenzo. the father committed suicidee># in san francisco. we had received a request from fremont police department that his three year name was ellie lorenzo, and we assisted with the search since the father was found here after he committed suicide. that three year old was later found in jose. deceased, very tragic suicide, there was no foul plays suspected at this time. and fremont is in san jose are both handling their respective investigations, the san francisco connection was the father committed suicide in san francisco, the last thing, there were a couple of atm robberies. thesre on the 13th of july. there were two calls regarding

theft of an atm machine, both inside retail establishments. one on the 400 block of o'farrell at 4:45 a.m, the other on the 800 block of o'farrell. just minutes later in both incidents, the subjects gained access inside the store and attempted to steal atm machines. the second incident, the machine had been moved, but by the time officers got there the suspects had fled and the machine was still on the premises. we do have some follow up, to conduct on this. no suspects in custody at this time, but the investigation is ongoing. there's a fatal traffic collision on july 11th at 12:41 a.m. a pedestrian was hit by a vehicle at the area of geneva. and delano avenue in the ingleside police district. the pedestrian, unfortunately, was pronounced deceased at the scene and the driver remained at the scene. this investigation is ongoing and, the last incident of significance to report there was a media report of a sideshow

that ended up in an accident or traffic collision, on market street. this was, actually not the case. our investigation revealed that it was actually a single vehicle that was doing donuts in the street. driver apparently lost control and drove into the building. so the report that this was as a result of the sideshow, was actually not to be the case, video evidence corroborates what we found to be a single vehicle involved in this in this particular incident. so that investigation is still ongoing. but i just want to report that that was not as a result of the sideshow in terms of our sideshow or stunt dri a decrease in the amount of year e police. there was approximately 40. we're not approximately exactly 45 incidents for all of last year, this year there has

been 22. so we're seeing, the rate of these, these events are actually a little bit less than this time last year. so we will keep the commission posted on that. we have impounded some cars, not a whole lot, but we have impounded some cars after the fact. and that strategy and that tactic will continue. and that is my report for the week. so. for members of the public that have any public comment regarding line item three, the chief's report, please approach the podium. hi i'm h brown again and i don't speak for progressives, but have you seen that progressive kerfuffle going on over there? over you guys and the drop program and oh, hillary clinton, aaron is going over her head and, asserting authority, chief, you have to do that every

now and then yourself, i guess. but progressives are don't have anything against cops making money. i was telling some cops in the corner e give a million bucks tax free to anybody who can make 30 years here. and you don't have to stay another five years. and you know what? there's enough money in this damn city to cover it. easy with the trillion lef we had some kind of an evening out of wealth, a transfer of wealth from the trillionaires and billionaires who own it, we wouldn't have any problem here. but congratulations on your drop victory. what else i got there? the kerfuffle. oh, yeah. the if people. i ran into two ambassadors down on the street walking, on, where the hell i live? valencia today and that's the first time in nine years i've seen anybody on foot. and i stopped and i said, what the hell are you doing down here on foot? i thought you guys were only out on the avenue. oh, no.

no, we're stretching around. but you know, the fun and the drop program is going to take away from the ambassador program. it's also going to take away from kids, lunches and bullshit like that. i mean, i love drop, but let's drop. drop for now. thank you. sergeant, do i turn and look? no, i g this meeting is going to swiftly. my name is paul allen. i would belabor this chart that i've already provided it to you in writing, it's worth noting that i think we now have a general, inverse correlation between, overdose deaths on the one hand and arrests of dealers and users on the other. and that's evident from for periods of time. one, this period around

the time of the apec summit, in the lead up to that, secondly, the four month period from january through april, when, arrests went up significantly and deaths went down, then you have the may period of time when arrests plummeted and deaths increased, and then you have the most recent month where the reverse occurred. as i pointed out in the memo, obviously, correlation is not causation. number one. and number two, this could suggested in my memo, i think the police commission has a, perhaps not an obligation, but it has an opportunity to obtain additional information from the department of public health as to what other variables might influence this behavior. i noted that professor humphreys at stanford, speculated even yesterday in an interview that,

well, perhaps this was because those who are consuming fentanyl now, are kind of serious users and therefore haven't stumbled into it, and that could be an explanation. but of course, we don't know. that's as much speculation as as anything i did. look on site. i didn't see any data with respect to at least that i could determine, with respect■í to interventions, the number of interventions, for example, by month, successful or otherwise. and indeed, there is uld be useful. again, i think it's an opportunity f the commission, which i know you don't have, to request this data from the department of public health so that there can be a general, generally a better. thank you. your two minutes is up. thank you. and there's no

further public comment. line item for dpa director's report discussion report on recent activities and announcements. commission discussion will be limited to determining whether to counter any of the issues raised for future commission meeting. executive director henderson thank you, as i think i mentioned this before, but we've been putting a lot of effort into clearing up our case ba that 270 report day, that i typically report on every week, is now down to, last week, i reported it was down to one. and i just learned that our closure rate is now down to zero. so we now have zero cases that are not tolling. for the record, that is the lowest that it has ever been in the history of the agency. it's a very big deal, again, i want to thank our investigators for all of their hard work and prioritizing and closing cases, because it's a combination of both of those things that are being done at

the same time. that got us to this poi and those numbers in ts of, our continuing effort to clear out our the backlog of cases, including the ones that are here with the commission our office is presenting four of those cases in closed session tonight to be resolved. that's a big deal because that represents one third of all of the cases that we have that have been pending, that we normally report on every week in terms of the backlog that we have. so that's a big deal, we met this week, with the internal affairs division to brainstorm how to effectively improve both of our efficiencies in terms of our ongoing work and our reporting. i think that was a productive meeting, and i look forward to continuing these conversations over the next few months. this is one of the first times that we've ever come together

collaboratively to do exactly this. i will say some of the things that we mentioned before, because we just got that big report from iad that i thought was very illuminating in terms of apples for the work that gets done with the dpa. and i still have an ongoing suggestion that i'm going to reach out to iad. i think the chief, and i know i mentioned it in the meeting to do a similar sort of openness report. so it's more than just the beginning measurement. we have an exit information summary of the kind of cases that got sustained. in addition to the information that's already being provided to the commission. so i'll you updated on that project. i think now is a good time to do something like that. while dpa has, summer fellows that are doing some of this work and may be helpful, some of those, terns are also working with internal affairs, so that might be one of the ways without creating new work, we may be able to address that, we've been having a lot in terms of

internal, issues. we've had a lot of workload personnel changh unexpected leaves. a lot of the results of that has given us some of the results or many of the results that i just talked about. and managing our backlogs, but we've been meeting with, our staff and with the unions to address, those changes that have happened in the past. we've introduced a new org we just had another all hands meeting is now continue meeting with both my staff and the unions to make sure that we are still on the same page about the work that we're doing, and i think we're in a stable. good place. and we will continue moving forward to address, both our reporting obligations and our ongoing charter and mission statements within the agency that's internally. externally, we have we are working with san diego

county, reached out to us, the city and county, that wants to build their practice of both police accountability and sheriff accountability on the models that we're using specificlydpa and replicating the legislation that produced both the jurisdiction and the staffing at dpa to try and replicate some of those measures there. and we'll continue working with them, and i'll give you updates as that process continues. as well. in terms of monitoring the our numbers, our investigative unit has opened up nine cases since our last meeting and closed 28 cases since our last commission meeting, so we areontinuing to exceed our efficiencies, with our cases, our audit is still ongoing. the field testing, will complete the field testing by the end of this month. and after

our field work, we'll hold an exit conference with sfpd and prepare a draft response that will be presented to this commission, also this week, our policy unit met with the police department's sme. the subject matter expert on dgo 6.13. that's our hate crim. discuss goals for the update and the current draft, and we'll be presenting those recommendations have, as irtment next week. for mentioned earlier, four cases and closed session tonight, and we will address those when they come up, also present in the courtroom or in the hearing room tonight is our senior investigator, brant bagian, our trial attorney, tanita thompson. policy director jermaine jones. and. you know, i'm so terrible

with the names. it's a lot, and it's terrible. and also, our head. oh head of the legalein. h names. we'll cut you off now. all right. vice president carter overstone, thank you, director henderson, for the report, just one question, which is wondering if you had a sense, time wise, of when the public might see dpa's audit on sfpd stop data, and then second piece is, i think previously you'd represented that, executive director mcguire had given dpa all of the data it requested, but wanted to ask if that was still the case, we have i have the stop data, audit on my desk

as we speak. it was just given to me yesterday, and we are doing s now, so very soon, i may actually have it here because i'm supposed to be reviewing. reviewing it, i don't have a specific date, but very soon, i think the draft is already finished, and83■ the information at this point, is either the information that was given to us will be reflected in the audit ttion that was not given to us will be reflected inhe with a drill down outline of the details for what we we authorized to receive, what we did receive and what we didt receive. that question will be answered directly and specifically. i know that's one of the questions answered in this audit, as well as recommendations about shared information. there will be no ambiguy int. i don't know if that answers the question, but. for members of the public who

would like to make public comment regarding line item four, please approach the podium.■5 director henderson's a great guy and he's got a tough job over there. i can look back in the back where, the cops were, chief, back before you, they felt free to burglarize the acc and try to run down the chief attorney. and they assaulted, one of them. martin assaulted baronetcy and, very easy. gave the report to the chief and said, so she came back, i think i told story, but being old, we retell storie, and she came back and saw a couple of weeks later and said, what do you want me to do with this, chief? what would you do if, one one of these cops back here assaulted, one of your commissioners and they gave they personally gave you a piece of paper on it. would you act on

that? i bet you i'm sorryhat violates the rule, sergeant. i'm sorry. the, anyway, i like, paul henderson very much. and, you know, he could be president, because willie picked kamal over him to go in to be the da and so. and then when i ran, i run for the ideas. in 2007, kamala was running unopposed for da and went on. and there's a good chance that bin might resign this weekend, and we might have a president that we can say, i knew her when, you know, but it could have been you, paul henderson. but but but i'm but i'm going to back this ballot measure. i'm going txo back this ballot measure. and the one for elected police chief think they should both be on the ballot. and you've done a greato a hellhole. all the glory. you're welcome. yeah. our line e

commission reports, discussion and possible action. commission reports will be limited to a brief description of activities and announcements. commission discussion will be limited to determining whether to counter any of the issues raised for a future commission meeting. cosi reports and commission announcements and scheduling of items identified for a consideration at a future commission meeting. commissioner walker, thank you. i wanted to mention a couple of things. just updates. i know that both the chief and i have talked with folks about the patrol specials. that's going to be coming up after our, our august off. but also, i, was checked in by the women's committee, who are working within the department to really make sure the department fulfills the 30 by 30 commitment of hiring 30% of officers by 2030. and i know that, diana

olivier called me and updated m, discussing how many women in the department have gotten together to be part of the conversation about really making recommendations to the chief, to really change things, to make sure that we commit, that we actually implement and carry out and succeed ir y 30. so i'm really looking forward to it. i would like to reserve time on the september 18th meeting for an update from the made. it's veryhe 30 by 30 and impressive. there's a lot to doe already been working on over the, over the past few years, but there's so much more to do. and i really look forward and i know the commission is to an update for department moving forward. and thank you, chief, for really prioritizing this■,.

you know, it's really an important issue. so thank you, commissioner. thank you, for my update. just a quick update, what? go ahead. what i forgot to i want to also mention that working on this and i've been meeting with them since i've been put on the, on the commission are also, commander jones, who's here tonight? commander moran and captain alexa o'brien. those are the leadership who are really putting together. but there's dozens of women who are in the department who really, are really interested in the discussions about policy and moving forward. so thank you. great. we encourage policy writers and policy people. so that's right. we're doing it, so i wanted to give an update. i was able to meet with,he bwc unit i want to thank. first, i

want to thank the chief because i reached out and wanted to meet with the bwc unit to better understand how body worn cameras logistically will be operating. once we implement all of these dgos and the chief with his staff were able to accommodate a meeting with myself and commissioner benedicto to walk us tough the body worn camera unit. the procedures, the policies and sort of the accomplishments and challenges that this unit, has. faces. i want to thank and send a huge shout out to sergeant michael young from the bwc unit, as well as i think it was karen lu or lu. yes who took the time to walk us through, the intricate detail of what it really takes, when body worn camera footage is requested and how they have to review it, redact it, and the amount of time, and it takes, ws

really eye opening to me, andó( they despite having a team of ten, they arey operating with eight. and the amount of work that they do and are able to generate is just really, really impressive. so i want to immensely for taking the time out of their schedule to walk me and answer questions that i had. i also wanted to, thank the■e■ director of the. it unit, as well, who took the me some of te contract and new additions that the body worn camera unit, as well as the department would be having. and so it was very interesting to see, and i think that, in the upcoming months, we will definitely be agendizing that because i think it's important for the public to know what really goes into, body worn cameras and what that unit does that it takes to actually get body worn camera footage, because it seems that the direction is going to be that the body worn

camera footage, it, or body worn cameras are going to be utilized much more moving forward. and so we really need tke the public is aware of how that process works, what that looks like, and sort of some of the, hindrances that it's going to have on the departmentnsition. i wanted to send a huge shout out to the chief, also the, the staff and those individuals who attended the meeting, commissioner benedicto, i can't wait. thank you, president elias, just a few things, for my reports. i, as our fellow commissioners know, last week we passed a number of the dgos that are, implemented as part of prop e, and today we have some of the remainder we put on, i want to again, thank my fellow commissioners for, the big lift to get these dgos to where they're at and hope that we can, get those get those through this evening, and we'll reserve specific comments on those for when those come up, i also want

to thank acknowledge commissioner yanez, i've had the privilege to work with commissioner yanez on several of the dgos that affect the rights of juveniles. those are 7.01 which hope to have before us soon, and 7.04, which was on the agenda but pulled in part because of some concerns that commissioner yanez had heard fr community groups. so we're going to take the opportunity t, to rework that, commissioner yanez long and established community roots, to these communities in particular in this area of juvenile advocacy. and i really want to thank commissioner yanez for his his leadership on this. and, both, tj 7.04 and 7.01 are significantly improved thanks to the input that commissioner yanez, as well as groups that he brought to the table, have provided. so thank you for that, that concludes my report. thank you, commissioner yanez. thank you, president eliason. thank you, commissioner benedicto, i think you know, it takes takes a

village, they say. right. and we definitely need as many voices and perspectives to be able to improve, san francisco safety for all young people and whatever age they identify as, my report will be brief. i do want t publicly. because the reason why you know, the voters created this commission, the reason why we're here is because we are about transparency, accountability. i'm going to hold myself accountable if i ss in bereavement. my father passed away may 13th. jesus. yanez. vasquez, and he's the reason why i'm here. you know, he was an organizer in mexico, actually, back in the 70s. and then organizers in mexico were murdered in those■ú days. so, yu know, i have a history of speaking truth to power. and this is the reason i'm here. and i'm going to hold myself accountable. if i it will be re, because the bereavement was a little longer than i expected. but i rolled my sleeves up and

we're back at work, and i want to give an update around the language. 052. oh, i know that the work groups are going to begin. thank you, to your staff chief, for being very communicative about the process. and i have been reaching out toe community. san francisco language access network is actively engaged and wants to participate and will be contributingir to this commission and yourself, chief, and your staff for prioritizing this as one of these, one of the outcomes of prop e for us to have as much■' commuty input so that the members of this community that do not have, the understanding or t to better acs those services for translation and interpretation, if ever they need those, the other update i have is and i thank you,

commissioner benedicto, for putting 701 back on the radar, because it is one of those that has received, many points of, feedback. and throughout the course of over two years now, i think we have made a lot of progress, there were some challenges, some obstacles. that one at many points. and we still haven't resolved all the obstacles, but i think we are closer to a place where, the both the advocates and the community and the young people are going to■6 benefit from the product that is going to come out out of 701. so i am happy. i'm glad that we will be agendizing that in the near future, for completion and authorization, and i want to make sure that we do not forget that over a year ago, we did have a presentation about the intention of this body and this department to initiate an evidence based practice that has been adopted by los angeles, by oakland and other jurisdictions across the nation, which is to

establish a pre-booking diversion program that would give young people the benefit of programing in lieu of suspended charges or charges being held in abeyance if and when they complete successfully. these programs that are evidence based models, the reason why i have been adamant about the implementation or the creation of this program is because of my history of 30 people, adolescend the fact that i have, complete faith in both our providers, our community and this department, to understand that young people deserve to be treated differently. adolescent development goes into their 20s. and just because the law says that once you're 18, you're supposed to understand right from wrong. and every law does not necessarily mean that every individual out there really grasps these things. right, so i hope that we can i had requested

that presentation to kind of coincide with the year anniversary of when we had a joint presentation with the juvenile probation commission, who endorses this program, but here we are a year later, and we have not necessarily launched, as i had hoped we had or would have hoped. we have gotten to, the program. and so i asked one of our community partners for numbers about what has happened since i've engaged in this conversation, we looked at numbers from january 22nd through a year to date, july 2nd of 24. and in that period there have been a total of 370 with the community calls unduplicated referrals. so new young people referred into the juvenile justice system, and we there has been plenty of evidence, plenty of studies done on the matter and any contact with the juvenile justice system, leads

to further criminalization and further involvement in the criminal justice system for young people. there have been 370 people who have entered the system who potentially been, ine program to divert them from formal involvement in the system. now, i don't know, out of those 370, how many of them would have been eligible? i'm working with the juvenile probation department obtain that information, but i just want the public to know that there are potentially 370 young people who may not ever have had to have formal involvement with the system that are unfortunately involved in the system in some way, shape or form. and so i think it really compels us, and, and i hope that the pressure that these numbers tell a story and that we can fast track, the process so that

we get, get to the point where we can actually implement and begin to offer an evidence based program that has demonstrated it can save lives, that has demonstrated it can redirect young people into programing and into spaces where they can, address whatever mental health substance abuse needs or whatever conditions that may. they may have that are leading them to contact with the system. so i hope we cangendize that, we, i can have everybody come back and hopefully we can get this■u in september. thank you. okay. vice president carter, well, first and foremost, just wanted to publicly wish commissioner yanez and his family condolences on his father's passing and, you know, thank you for sharing those by biographical facts about your dad and his legacy that you're carrying forward in many ways, including the important work that you do on this commission, and thank you for continuing to serve the public during this

very difficult time, just wanted to acknowledge that it's my understanding that today is the day that joe 9.07 has become effective. our policy to de-emphasize, traffic■@ stops tt have no public safety benefit, just wanted to acknowledge that you know, dozens of jurisdictions all across the country have implemented some version of this policy. it's been an unmitigated success everywhere that it's been attempted. and that data has been collected on it. and i'm heartened that the people of san francisco will be able to share in the benefits that millions of americans have reaped over the last few years. i want to thank chief scott for supporting the policy, and i want to thank every single commissioner up here who was a commissioner at the time that the policy was being enacted, who all voted for the policy at one point or

another and wanted to thank all the members of the community, from across the ideological spectrum, who came out and supported this policy. thank you. thank you, commissioner clay. yeah just for the for commissioner yanez, as relates to the group, group getting together as it relates to the restorative justice type of thing, the guidance for the issues of diversion, what you're going to need to do is get the courts involved. also, as a matter of law, they have to be involved. so i would hope that someone from the courts has been contacted, along with the prosecutors as well as the juvenile justice commission, with the police department, so they can do that together because they have to they can't just release without if the court that once you do that, you can't do that as a matter of law. so get them. i hope someone's got them involved also because that's impo■ñrtantget them there. okay. the juvenile justice commission came and did an amazing presentation for us and showed they work with the court. the juvenile courts, and, so i think that it would be good

to have them back in september to give an update to commissioner clay, since he's new. and i would be beneficial n this process. it'll be our september surprise. great thank you, sergeant, for any member of the public would like to make public comment regarding line item five commission reports. please approach the podium. favorite commenter hi i'm h brown again. i just want to give an attaboy to this commission. i mean, you guys have been through, more shit than anybody since the school board a couple of years ago and all that, dump them, go after them, attack them, blah, blah, blah. side and side, my question to all of you, what are you going to do with mayor peskin? i mean, you think the shit hit the fan now? it's going to be very interesting, but you have a wonderful group

here, a really fantastic group, and they're friendlier and more accessible than any, commission that i've seen up here in watching you for 30 years. and hang in there and thank you so much for your work and welcome aboard, commissioner clay. you are such a good addition. thank you. good evening everyone. my name is joe cirillo. i'm a local social worker and if the dolores hill bomb topic was already mentioned earlier in the meeting. i just want to continue the topic of reaching out to youth in the city, actually, as well as unwarranted stops on the street, because that definitely impacts youth who are skating so briefly. if i can just say, it was about a year ago that 113 people were arrested at the dolores hill bomb, which is skaters going down dolores street. most were youth, so i

just wanted to recommend further discussion about sfpd's community outreach and collaboration with other departments, specifically mta and the re park. last july 6th,a little over ten daysgo, was an example of sfpd. unfortunately, prioritizing a heavy handed, fear based approach, and it involved excessive overtime as well as what appeared to be violations of ada laws and transportation codes&=, if thiss working, can anyone guide me on how to get a few photos? all right. thank you. you may see, this waschurch street, and again, thank y for letting it to continue on church street. but just, just a logistical thing. you can see someone's about to fall, there's a few pothes there. there's train tracks, luckily, people were able to continue, church street without being arrested, but this was an example of, you know, how

many officers were there on dolores street and the event just ending up one street over, and it actually ended up on a more dangerous street, where people were mo fall. so just recommending further discussion about decriminalizing what happens on dolores street, and also just there's other factors with ada laws and how the public is perceiving the use of police time. again, i think there's definitely potential for more community outreach. and people can be on the same page. but, let's see if the youth can be invited in that as well in the future. thank you. that is the end of public comment line item six presentation and discussion on the law enforcement equipment annual policy, annual report 2023 discussion and possible.

good evening. my name is aja steeves and i am the manager of the policy development division. and i'm here to present on our annual report relating to,■- ab 4081, which is the military equipment, assembly bill. thank you. so ab 41 went into effect in september 2021. it codified a california government code, section 770 through 7075. and it requires law enforcement agencies in california to obtain approval from the applicable governing body. in our case, it's the board of supervisors, it requires the approval of a law enforcement use of equipment policy by ordinance. and it first actually required each law enforcement agency to get an approved use policy for everything that they had within their inventory and everything they had acquired before. jaary t, 2022. so ab 41

certain types of law enforcement equipment. again, it requires all of these law enforcement agencies to seek approval of the use of that equipment, and that approval must be done by way of ordinance, our use policy ordinance was signed by the mayor decembe22nd, 2022, and the ordinance effective date was january 22nd, 2023. this does mandate an annual review, which is what we're here also to do initially, and also annual review by the board. and the boardviews our compliance with the use policy that was approved last year. next slideo this is just a review of the approval process itself of the use policy, we had a bunch of public hearings last year between the date of submission in may 2022 and the final approval in december 2020. excuse me, 2022. there were about 11 public hearings the department captured over 43 policy recommendations through the hearing process. you

can find those recommendations on ourthere is a tab specifically designated for the law enforcement use policy, and it captures. there's a section on our website that has all of the documentation that was gathered during these hearings. so if you want to look for those 43 recommendations and our responses, that's available webe presented to this body last february to go over the use policy as it was approved. next slide, this is the this slide just goes over the ab 41 inventory categories. and these again are the items that were acquired by the department before january 1st, 2022. unmanned remotely piloted powered ground vehicles, armored personnel carriers, wheeled vehicles that have a breaching or entry apparatus attached command and control vehicles breaching apparatuses that are explosive in nature. flashbang grenades and pepper balls, excluding standard service issued handheld pepper spray.

long range acoustic device. elrod specialized firearms less than 50 caliber, with the exception of standard issue service weapons, so this does exclude the rifles that are assigned to patro associated munitions. next slid. so here's a list of the annual report requirements that■! actually landed in the annual report. it's a summary of how the covered equipment was used and the purpose of use, a summary of any complaints or conserved receipt, excuse me, concerns received about that particular equipment, the results of any internal audits or info about violations of the equipment. use annual costs for each type of equipment, including training, maintenance, storage, upgrades and also the source of funds. so we would let you know if it was operational funds that was paying for it, grant funding, etc. next slide please, the annual report also includes the quantity possessed for each type of equipment and also notifies the reader and the public if sfgp intends to acquire

additional equipment subject to the provisions of ab 41 and the next year and the quantity sought. the department also opted to include information about whether injuries were sustained during the use of each type of equipment. next slide. thank you. so why are we here? the inaugural annual report was publicly posted on the1th, 2024d receive an extension from the board and their deadline that they put on to us was june 15th. so within 30 days of publicly releasing the annual report, sfpd is required to have at least one publicgh the police commission where the general public can ask questions regarding the funding, acquisition or use of equipment listed in the report. the board of supervisors shall determine, based on review of the annual report, whether each type of equipment listed in the use policy complied with the standards of. excuse me, government code 7071 d did we comply with the authorized uses in t use policy that was approved by the board, if the

board determines that sfpd has not complied with the government code 70, 71 standards or our use policy, they may vote to disapprove a renewed or require modifications to the use policy. and the department is also considering holding an additional public meeting through the captain's town halls. we don't have one specifically scheduled, but we are aiming for mission station, they have a station. town hall scheduled for august, so we may hold another meeting to discuss this policy there. so that's just an overview of the annual report itself. i am joined by deputy chief raj vaswani, who oversees the special ops bureau and the special ops bureau actually maintains theaj equipme to help answer any questions that i am unable to, but happy to take any questions so we can start the discussion. question. so procedurally, you bring this here and the public can ask questions, and then we take a vote to do what? to send it to

the board of supervisors. or my understanding is this is just for discussion to allow members of the public to ask questions and this body to ask questions. and the action is taken with the board of supervisors. so on page three of your say that there were 11 public hearings. what do you mean by public hearings? sure. so, our use policy was submitted to the board and then it was sent to committee, the rules committee. so there are several hearings at the rules. and then several at full board. okay. so when you say public hearings, you mean in front of the board of supervisors. so how many community meetings with community, not board of supervisors, not, any legislative body, not the department, not with the police commission. community based meetings have been held regarding this. now, the meetings were at t board and the rules. we don't believe we sought any community meetings for that. so the community meeting because if it's in front of the board of supervisors, the community can engage with you. they're only limited to a two

minute public comment, just like here at the police commission, when we have this before the police commission. unfortunately, all that can happen is the community can come up and give their opinion in two minutes. so i'm just want to make sure we're clear and i want to understand. so there have been no community meetings regarding this issue that have taken place thus far. yes. or no? no. there were no community meetings. but to address that, we did. why? we sat in the hearings and captured those 43 recommendations came from the public comments that came in, and we wanted to ensure that we were responsive. and they did impact the use think the way the ordinance is written, it says community meetings and involvement. and as we are starting to look at policing different, especially with prop e and prop e's, huge push to have community involvement and have meetings in each district station, it seems that this would be counter to that if we're not type of intention of having community involvement in this process. so i wouldn't feel comfortable moving anything forward until involvement and the opportunity

for the community to give their opinion more face to face with you and directly, rather than in a two minute conversation, a two minute public, you know, public comment type of setting. understood. well, the use policy has been approved, but with the annual rort, that's want to do more of the district station meet to discuss the annual report. so i think that should probably be done. and maybe we bring this back in september. andhen you can show this commission what efforts the department has made to engage community.ations is a good stari still think that, you know, i've, i've received several emails about this issue. and the outcry has been there's been no awarenes to the community or community involvement or opportunity for the community to raise their concerns. so i think that needs to be addressed before we move forward or say that we've because i mean, when you look at these slides, it looks like you've had community i just don't think that that's completely accurate. so, okay, vice

president carter overstone, thank you, president elias. i guess i'll just pick up where president elias left off, so government code section 7072 b says that there needs to be within 30 days of posting leastl publicized and conveniently located community engagement meeting at which the general public may discuss andng the anl military equipment report. so the law seems to require a, as , there can be a free form discussion, two minute public public comment doesn't seem to meet the requirements of state law. so i think that that has to happen before the board votes on it. but do you have a different view on what state law requires? no, not necessarily, but the authorized use policy, when you actually look at the policy itself, it does name that first

meeting to hpen at the police commission. so not the law, but the policy that was approved by th that was approved by way of ordinance, does name the police commission as the first stop. understood understood. but but the state law control amend state law. right of course. in your presentation, you mentioned that the, this is actually othat point, too, that that the board granted an extension to file the report. is that right? because i think i saw on on the report online that the last authorization was december 22. is that right of the ordinance of the of the usee policy itself was approved in december of 2022and so state law requires reauthorization every year. correct? right. okay so normally that that should mean december or january of this year. but but here we are seven months later. so you're saying

we're seven months late because the board authorized it. no the reauthorization of the use policy is based on the review of the annual report, the nual report, the inaugural annual report was the thing thate asked for, the extension for. and the board said we could submit it no later than june 15th. so then they still haven't held their hearing to review the annual reportl and then determie whether it can be renewed or not. but under state law, the one year clock started running at the end of december, when the board last approved the effective date of the actual policy was january of 2023. so you so the clock started running in january. correct. and so under state law, january of this year is when you should be back fore the board. is that right? when we should ideally submit the inaugural report. okay publicly? well, not ideally right. because the because state law doesn't say ideally right. it gives a fixed one year deadline to publicly post the report. so we're out of compliance with state law in

that respect. as well. correct i would say we did not submit that we did not publicly post the report in january of 2020. i'll take that as yes, i wanted to ask about assault rifles, i think in the report there was this most recent one submitted. there's 300 some odd assault rifles. just wanted to ask about that. given that, the department's representation on its inventory of assault rifles has changed quite a bit in the in its various filings with the board the last time around, i think there was at one time reported that there were none. other times reported that there is 687. now we have a bit over 300. could you just pl represene changed so substantially? sure. initially, i believe the way it is defined in ab 41 is ether it is, it removes what is it, standard we removed the standard issued

rifles that are for patrol and only reported the rifles for specialized units. so that's the number that we ended up with in the actual useol what we reported on i see. so this 300 numbede standard issue. and do you know or do any of our friends here know what the what the number would be if you included standard issue assault rifles? i don't let me turn my mic on. sorry. yeah, but we can get that very easily. i don't know, off top of my head, no. okay. thank you. and then i think i also saw in the report that you■l use oft rifle, you do report when it was just pointed. it not necessarily fired. is that fair? yes. okay just wanted to confirm that,

were used 35 times. quote during the service of high risk search warrants in 2023. i just wanted to ask if there was a working definition in the department of what constitutes high risk such that it would justify the use of flashbangs. so generally,2q evey search warrant op order is evaluated and if it can, it can occur by a specialized unit, not the tactical company. usually when it comes to tactical company, it means it is a high risk. it usually means that the person either has access to a weapon. a weapon was used in a the terrain of where theuld be objective is, there could be other high risk people at the address, which would escalate it. there is a standardized matrix that we would[z look at o see, if it comes to us in the

tactical company and is so there's a matrix. so is that somewhere, you know, memorialized in writing and in, in a department policy or manual or. yes, it is. and procedure to just evaluate, search warrants of premises. and, and sotrix har of different factors. and after you tick off enough of them, the search qualifies as high risk. it does. and there's a discussion. there's a discussion between the unit originating the order and tactical company on their capabilities. okay and, does the matrixn to the risk factors of executing the@ warrant, does it require does it require consideration of, the effects that flashbangs might have on, on, you know, innocent individuals that that might live at the residence being searched, such as children or elderly

people. they do evaluate, who's at the premise? they they take a lot of different factors into consideration, and the newer flash bang technology doesn't. it's self-contained. it doesn't ignite. it's not flammableit's contained in a container. okay. so it like the older technology was, flammable in the sense of like, it could ignite something. safer. okay. but and just understand is consideration of the effect that flashbangs might have on, you know, say children or the elderly. is that actually written into the matrix or you're saying this is something that is more informally discussed? i the swat commanders school, they would they're the

swat team is actually trained in taking all kinds of things into consideration, other people within a premise. but i guess what i'm their tactics would change, right? i appreciate i appreciate your answerecause i'm asking just something slightly different, which is, is it in writing in the matrix or, or not? there. there is in writing in the matrix, if there's children present, etc. s including animals, we look at if we need to have occ there, if you know things such as that. okay. understood. thank you, two follow up questions to vice president carter stone's questioning who authorized the extension. i was told that the board did. i don'tnotion or by communication via email. i was told we had an extension that went through june 15th and. good

afternoon, president. you're going to excuse me, commissioners, i have a little bit of a raspy voice today. i'm losing my voice. thank you, doctor, for appearing. thank you. my name is diana roach, doctor known recently, and i'm the director of policy and public affairs, so i will just clarify that we did submit a letter of request for an extension to the board clerk and a request that was based on an inquiry that came from supervisor dean preston, that request, after further dialog, was granted. according to what miss steeves just mentioned, in terms of the date of when we're expected to submit the updated report and then, miss steeves, you said that the first the requirement was that a first police commission occur, and then the report goes, did i get that lineage correct? ift's th 30 days of publicly posting the report, then we have commission. we can continue to

have community meetingafter that. and then the board will have the hearing. okay and then the other quick question, i'm going to turn over to my fellow commissioners is on annual repo, it says a summary of any complaints or concerns received concerning the equipment. and you indicate no complaints or concerns were received by the department regarding this equipment, which is odd to me because i've been my email box where shouldded with con■rns the public send these concerns and complaints regarding this policy, they're in the policy, i believe in the initial policy, there's an email address. we have the sfpd chief's email address, posted in the use requs to come in that way, but it■h is the way it is worded, it sounds like we need a complaint about the specific equipment, not necessarily the incident. maybe there's complaints about an incident, where, let's say the bearcat was this is about a complaint about the bearcat specifically. and so we haven't

received any complaints about thpe tool. okay so why don't you provide the email address so we can to the commission secretary. and we could post it on the post it on the commission website. and then i'm going to ask to re agendize this with an update in terms of you complying with the state law and community involvement, commissioner benedicto, thank you very much. president elias, a lot of the questions were asked by y and vice president carter, so i won't repeat questions on those points. one question i had was that in the annual report on page ten, equi■.pment not include an annul report. the report notes that unmanned remotely piloter vehicles were not included as the department did not acquire or maintain these items, what is your you know, since prop e now passed and which explicitly authorized the use of unmanned aerial vehicles, for pursuits, has the department taken steps to acquire unmanned aerial vehicles? and what is what is

its understanding of where that would fall in future reports, under this ordinance? sure. so just a reminder, this is the annual report that correlates with the use policof everything we had prior to january 1st, 2022. so our understanding is weav submitted, there is legislation at the board introdufoolicy, abe policy. once it is approved, i require an annual report. so we will come back to this body. we'll have an annual report. we'll then do community meetings. so same same route. but this again is just attached to the annual for everything wed before 2022. okay. so it's your understanding that, state law under this government code, 7072 would still apply to, to any unmanned aerial vehicles the department purchased. that is my understanding. okay. and so there would be a use policy that have to be approved by the board that isn't yet approved.

notwithstanding any provisions of prop e, since the state law would still apply. correct? correct. okay, i know we've■g talked a little bit when it comes to vehicle pursuits at this commission about the star chase and similar gps launcher under any of the enumer of govee 7072? thank you for the question. no, but it does fall under sf admin code 19 b as a surveillance tool. and where we are currently presenting our authorized use and impact report. okay, that's very helpful. thank you. i'll also said. based on my reading ofias 7072, i don't think there's any vote that's required since you've met tonight that you've met the, you've had the meeting under the commission, the government code, 7072. but i do think that this should be agendized. i mean, i would echo president elias's request that the community meetings be held. i understand that that's that you could read the 77 two very narrowly, but there's not an opportunity for the public to

ask questions. and i think, the community process that the commission followed involved, substantial community community feedback. there are now new community feedback requirements imposed on this commission by prop e. and so i think in the spirit, we should all be working to increase that engagement, that we're under the obligation to do so, and i also think that it the, this that after that's done, it's important that this come back fore this body. quite frankly, i was not able to review the report as thoroughly as i would like, given that prop e has really consumed a lot of the commission's bandwidth, in ■"e months since it passed. and i know i've spoken to many of my fellow commissioners that we're looking forward to sort of being able to return to our other, other sort day to day oversight duties once we're through the immediate aftermath of prop e. and so i think that that would include this. so we look forward to seeing you, for the report in the fall. thank you. commissioner clay.

unfortuny, this the ab 41his commission. so i just a real simple question. i want to follow question. so what is the sanction for failing to file the sanction for failing to file the unaware of the sanction. that's the problem. as a judge and having seen this, th legislature, they make these laws. but there's no sanction for you to as it relates to get some gravitas, making people do what they're supposed to do. so what's important, what needs tot done. and there's a law tt tells you how to do it. just follow it and get it done. and then we canhat's the unfortunate thing. when you don't have a sanction and m we may promulgate a sanction for that here. but this law doesn't have a sanction. but we're saying to you, urging you to get it done asap. all right. that's what i have to say. you. sir if any member of the public that has public comment regarding line item six, please approach the podium.

h brown again, i'd say you're going to get tired of me, but nobody ever gets tired of me disgusted if me. shit like that. but not tired. no, the chief. period. is the public and foot patrols. i mean, a few years ago, we got a cop shot on a pole, guy over, and a guy shot him and killed him in the east bay, and, a hunter cop cars rushedat. maybe helicopters, whatever the hell and all that. and finally a woman went over and told the cops, she said his name is, john doe, and he's over at■u mary do. his aunt's place is two blocks from here. and here'see more cot killed. but that's here. nor there. but t fact of the matter is, i lived in the tenderloin. i grew up in a housing project for years. seen a lot of crime. i'm special ed teacher. got a masters in it.

and what happens is a criminal does something. they go running down the street and ey go running through the project. they go running through the sro, they go and, the if you know, the cop on the beat, if the cops been there forever, say, h, his name is john doe. and he went to mary, those house and what you get is millions of eyes on the street, you know, of foot patrols, foot patrols, foot patrols. you what you got is, is if you just got change the difference in people riding the desk with a gun here to equal that in los angeles, you would free up 200 officers for the street. and you've been promising to do that. and all the 30 years patry name is john lindsay poland with the amecan friends service committee, which is tracked implementation of ab 41 military equipment policies a state. the commissioners have weighed in about the community

engagement meeting, but i have two responses and two points. first, the board reviews not only whether the police department complied with its own policy, but whether it meets state law requirements for safeguarding civil liberties. no reasonable alternatives to meet the same equipment is cost effective. in addition, i have sent emails to the to the email address listed in the policy and nev gotten a response, two points sfpd owns 15 submachine guns and 64 machine guns. tse are fully automatic weapons made for war. it also owns as semi-automatic assault rifles. yet sfpd proposes■ to buy 12 more machine guns and 16 more assault rifles with no rationale for why more military power firepower is needed than previous years. the

number of gun violence victims, as we heard earlier in the city, has fallen. in fact, year since 2021, these additional weapons shod not approved without showing the need for them. changes in conditions that would justify expanding the arsenal and evaluation of alternatives and policy on how use of the weapons will safeguard civil liberties. finally, sfpd does not provide the make or model of its machine guns in its military equipment policy, though this is required by ab 481, it is disclosed only 600 assaule believe the department should disclose all information about these weapons as required by ab 481. the board also has the of equipment, even if they're not included, including what are called standard issue weapons, which i would say when you have over 2000 officers and you have 300 weapons that are considered standard issue, they're not standard issue.■]/l le item eigt

discussion and possible action to approve revised department. general order 5.03. investigative detentions for the department to use in meeting and conferring with the affected bargaining units as required by la discussion and possible action. thank you. president elias. commission commissioners. 5.03 was posted, for the last commission meeting, and itas pulled from the meeting by president elias last week. since that time, the department has that we believe will, are to in compliance with proposition e and, actually, if i could over r benedicto because there are some additional, minor edits on the

language that the department is submitting that, commissioner benedicto and i have discussed. so i'll turn it over to him to read what the edits are. and i would ask for the commission's support on this dgo, including the edits that you're about to hear. thank you very much, chief, and tnk you to president elias for providing us this time. i thinkt, the joe that everyone has in front of them for 5.03 is, both in compliance with prop e, as it was last week. but i think substantially improved. i think it's important as president elias noted with our presentation from cognizant of e additional workload that is being imposed when we're asking for things to be on bwc, anddone opposite thing to happen, where we're creating more burdens redh i think is something that's been very important. and we've tried to capture here. so to my fellow commissioners, you'll see that the chiefs additional language is in the track changes primarily on page four in green, before this meeting, chief scott

and i discussed a few clarifying non-substantive changes to that green language, which i wl read out. it's mostly just for consistency and changing a few things that are in the present tense, and cause some ambiguity into the past tense. so if you look on page four of the red line under number two, documenting detew.éns worn came, the changes are all to that sentence in green on b that begins with members must cite on thei bwc and so i'll, i'll read the new language andl call out the changes. it now says members must cite on the bwc as many■■s factors as possible. and focus the articulation on why a search was conducted. no changes there. members must state why they believed. to believed the t was armed. such a change from is to was and dangerous before a search was permitted. that's changed to a was as well assoury

information they relied upon, as opposed to you rely on to conduct a pat search. members must be cautious about solely about relyingntal factors, rather than the subject's conduct. and, those changes are also ones that the chief supports for. for clarity purposes. and so with those and subject, any further questions from my fellow commissioners, i woul for us to approve revise departmentge 5.0e department to use in meeting efe bargaining units pursuant to our labor relations resolution 23 dash 32nd. before we take a second, i just wanted to highlight some really importantk want to highlight theore, but fact that as we move towards body-worn cameras and rely more

on body-worn cameras, i think it's important discussion of what that means in terms of labor for the department and more importantly, what that means to the public, because we are now creating a system where instead ond requesn police report, we're now, forcing the public, the newspapers, press, attorneys, whatever, to request body worn camera footage and before body worn camera footage can be releas public, an actual physical member of the department has to review it and redact it law before they can release it. and according to the body worn camera footage unit, they get 4 to 5 r day for body worn camera footage. and i anpa that will increase once we move towards making everything on body worn camera. additionally, it takes 3

to 5■@ minutes to redact one minute of footage, and that doesn't seem like a lot. but imagine it. i mean, and they gave me one example where 21 minutes of video took a member, eight hours to redact. so i think we have to keep this in mind. i've raised this issue with the c. issue that althougha contract in place that's going to provide ai■q services, there is still that physical human■2 element that is needed to utilize these tools that are coming to the department. but more importantly, there still is a budget gap because i think this department needs more funding to staff this department so that we can keep up, because there's rr in this department, rightly so. given the number of requests and t amt to get one, you know, one minute of footage released. so i think we have to be cogzant of i have had

extensive discussions about this, and, he has reassured me that those issues that are going be created by this process as we move things to body-worn cameras, is also going to be addressed. and with that, i am hesitant but willing to, to move. so, i think, vice president carter and then we'll go to commissioner walker, just a clarifying question. so last on last week's version where pat searches recorded on bwc or in an incident report is that a incident report, and what what washe rationale for that change? yeah, the rationale for that change is the property, specifical states things not required by law, and a written report on a pat search outside of arrest, is not required by law. so the same objective of those things that can be captured if the officers were to

write a written report, can beer commissioners who took the lead on this with that interpretation. i think that prop e is prescriptive in the way it directs us to reduce the requirements of record keeping, and i think this■)■ was and coud with the fact that this dgo was ■j enumerated. dgos that were the prescribed us to look at that stage for record keeping, that this seemed like a change that, that was i consider this change to be one mandated by property and a solution that is hopefully workable. and i think something i've shared with the chief that to what president elias said is that, you know, some of this might bet ity to turn around reports,ody

in a timely manner, because i also share present concerns, and personally think that an incident report is actually easier and not the mandate of property, and it's one of the enumerated ones, i'm supportive of this change. do you have questions? because i think you're just asking a question.ol answer. the real answer for me is, am iappy about it? no. do i think pat searches to be in a written report? yes. is it the hill i think that given some of the language that must be articulated, some of my concerns are. are not as great as i thought they were. but to be clear, i think pat searches are very intrusive. it's a violation of your civil rights. it's an intrusion on your constitutional rights. and i think that it's extremely serious. i think we have a problem with pat searches in this department. the data tells

us that people of color are searched at a more higher rate than non people of color. and more importantly, we're not even meeting the 50% mark when it comes to contraband because in order to pat search somebody, you have to have facts in order to pat search. and the facts you have to have have to or you have to articulate there's a crime or there's some contraband on you in order to search them. and the data from the 96 a reports tells us that when we're searching people, we're not finding stuff. so that tells me that either, you know, we're searching people and there's no basis, or we're not properly training how to ber certain iic those are my concerns. and i think that with this language that the officer having to articulate certain things which are required, i think alleviates some of my concern, so that's you want to answer. there it is. that's helpful. and then. yh, because i i'll be honest, i don't see this change at all as being mandated by prop b at all. it seems like this is chiefs

personal preference. so i did want to ask you, chief, why do you take a different view about, you know, president elias, i think listed out a lot of compelling reasons why it may actually be more cumbersome to record all of these. and on bwc in the long run, why do you disagree with that? that disagree with what that is more cumbersome. yeah. i mean, i take it that your position is it will be less cumbersome to use bwc versus an incident report when it comes to pat searches that that is my position. okay. but and president elias just a moment ago laid out some the idea that it actually could end up being more work in the long run if we, you know, make too many of these bwc reports. so just asking why why you disagree with that. this. well, i disagree because i don't believ. and i'm asking why. yeah. yeah. because an officer recording doing it or right after they're doing it, that's the extent of

what thewo to do, as opposed to writing an incident report, which usually requires them to go back to the station, write a report, be out of the field. i mean, this whole thi, this at least this part of proposition e was designed to free upfficers administrative time so they can be in thet thih that. so i don't see it as less cumbersome. and i do understand everything, president elias and i have had many conversations about this, but i don't see that as being more cuersome because of those reasons. i think the officers record, if there's an arrest, have to write a report anyway. if there's not an arrest, everything that they did would be recorded on that body worn camera. it can be revied if there's a complaint investigation, the information is there. and actually, i think there's some benefits to it because to recollect what's ha■ppening right when it's happening, it's probably going to be more accurate in my opinion. thank you, commissioner clay. so i just want to say

support, commissioner benedicto and the president of life or her statement as it relates to this particular statute or this particular, general order. the problem is there's no perfect order. it's not going to happen. we get that all the time. i read the city attorney's opinion that she provided to the commission prior after that enactment of property, and it's pretty clear that the lanage dictates this is what we have to do. we may not like it. we're going it ands with it. but, you know, this is the same argument that southerners did when the civil rights voting act was passed. they went by every way to try to say, this is not right. and it got contested because they said, well, they picked out and said, oh, this is this, this is this is what we have to do. thi frane given a mandate. we'll do it. if itoing to come back. but we got to move on. this is way too much time on this because it's pretty clear in the city attorney's opinion of what has to be done. and

we're following it, and we don't may not like it. i wasn't here when all these things happened, but you got to follow it and then let's see what happens. and so i'd like to move on and ask commissioner walker would like to second this, and i'd like to us to take a vote. second sergeant second for any member of the public would like to make public comment regarding line item 85.03. please approach the podium. i represent juvenile justice.che system for a long, long, long, long time. and i'll just toss in here for id. the hill bomb went down without chief scott. it was not part of the plan. and the last one. and not the last one.

the one before that. that's why i was so screwed up. okay, no offense to your your your guys there, but what they did there, the purpose was one of the reporters on the scene asked the captain, stand there. i don't know if it was your station guy, but, there's so many cops. i mean, what are you going to do? and the captain said, we're going to make a lot of arrests today. we're going to make a lot of arrests today. so they got a hundred of my juvenile kids into the system as fast as they could before they saw a lawyer. i've said this before, i'll say it again. you know, that was abusive. you're going to pay millions of dollars for that crap to begin with and all that■$t did it for ids. i mean, get with the system. you don't need to raid a party to get ids, when you've got claude. claude and he's a better brain than anybody

in this room. and anybody in this city, you've got a problem. we. you had a meeting here on translators. you can't have translators. you cat system for, you have to pay for each officer with it speaks every language in the world, you know, stop collecting data with a with a strong arm when you can get it through computer. dig. that is the end of public comment on the motion. commissioner walker i'm sorry, commissioner clay. howomy is. yes, commissioner. walker. yes, commissioner walker is. yes commissioner. benedicto. yes. commissioner benedicto is. yes. commissioner yanez. yes, commissioner. i'm sorry. yes, commissioner yanez is. yes. commissioner. yee. yes. commissioner yee is. yes. vice president carter overstone. no. vice president carter whetstone is no. and president elias, president elias is. yes. you have six yeses. line item nine discussion, discussion and possible action to approve. revised department general and

pursuit. driving for the department to use and conferring with the affected bargaining units as required by law. discussion and possible action. all right, fellow commissioners, this is another one of the prop e, general orders that was taken off calendar last week, after a discussion was had as to whether the commission would request apprehension data, this draft has reflects only that change. f at the last page, you'll see that it now requests apprehension data, and otherwise this is unchanged from the version week, you know, there was some discussion last week that the the most significant, and, you know, probably what the public knows most about prop e. and so this was worked on very closely and carefully over the number of months to make sure that it complies with prop e's. prescription to increase the circumstan pursuits

can be undertaken, regardless of whether that's a good idea, that's the that's what it included. so this with that fully and also maintains, , and accountability and tries to incorporate as many best practices as possible. so with that, i would like to make a motion to approve, the revised department general■y order 5.05 for use with meeting and conferring pursuant to our labor relations resolution 23, dash 32nd. so, chief, last week, you the issue of including the. apprehension, data was an issue around. data collection and prop e do you still have that issue? i mean, i now i see it in the

version that we're voting on. yeah, i, i still think tt's an issue. yes. so i thought what was going to happen is the commission was going to vote on which version that or there would be a discussion on which version is that. can i ask the, because this, this particular thing that we are actually voting on is a reflection of how prop e affects o c implementing, does that edit include implementing prop e? is, good e, commissioners alicia cabrera with the city attorney's office, so i believe the question you're asking me is whether the green language, the number of pursuits that resulted in apprehension under 5.05.08 is required by prop e. the answer is no. it's not required by prop e property specifically states the fields of information that's before you up until that green portion. so

it asks for an annual report on the reason for the pursuits thad in a collision, the number of pursuits that resulted in a death or injury, and a peace officer or member of the public, and the nber of pursuits that were found to be within or outside of policy. prop e vehicle pursuits, reporting requirements includes a list of information that the departm■+et must provide, but the commission has authority under its policy making power to require additional information from the chief. and so that would a direction to the chief of police. but it would not beuse d it's not required by law. so should it be in the dgo that i leave up to the commission? so the second on the floor, sergeant, for any member of the public would like to make public comment regarding line item 9o5 .05. please approach the podium.

i'll pretend i'm more senile than i am and go a the way to ms the safest city in the world for pedestrians like me and for dogs and cats and wheelchairs, is to put a speed bump at every goddamn traffic light in san francisco. every single one of them. you get a reputation around the world instantly. they'll t ready to drive slow in san francisco. and if somebody got killed at that corn, put two speed bumps there. that is the end of public comment ■#on the motion. commissioner clay, how do you vote? yes, commissioner clay is. yes, commissioner walker. no, commissioner walker is no commissioner. benedicto. yes. commissioner yanez. yes. commissioner yanez is. yes. commissioner yee%. oh, no. commissioner yee is no. vice

president carter. oberstar. yes. vice president carter ober is. yes. and elias. president elias is. yes. you have five yeses. line item ten. public comment. and all matters pertaining to item 12 below closed session, including public comment on item 11. a vote whether to hold item 12 sessiod like to make a public comment regarding closed podium. seeing none. line item 11. vote on whether to hold item 12 in closed session. san francisco administrative code section 67.10 d action. in a second. second. all right. on the motion, commissioner clay, how

do you vote? commissioner clay is. yes commissioner. walker. yes, commissior walker is. yes. commissioner benedicto. yes. commissioner benedicto is. yes. commissioner. yanez commissioner yee. yes. commissioner yee is yes. vice president carter overstone. yes. vice president carter is. yes. and president elias. yes. president lias is. yes. we are ■ seeingone on the motion. commissioner clay, how do you vote? yes, commissioner clays. , mr. walker is. yes. commissioner benedicta. yes. mr. benedicto anez is. yes. commissioner yi. yes commissioner yi is. yes. vice president carter obersten. yes. vice president carter is. yes. we have six yeses. line item 14. adjournment■z.ic] so, can you tt

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backsterinvited mow to a fire station to see the cool stuff ut out fires. you have seen the had doors open i close my eye its is like i'm there right now! wow! whoa. watch out, man. what is that for? >> what is this? these are fire engines they might look alike they are both red. white top and red lights on top. this is a new 2021 fire engine and this is an older 2014 fire engine. if you can't tell, this one is shorter and narrower than our

older fire engines they have cool things like recessed lights. roll up doors. 360 degree cam ares and more that is important as the city is moving toward slower and safer streets adding parklets and bulb outs and bike lanes we need to decrease our footprint to us and the community safer on emergency scenes. >>t' >> when is not guilty fire engine. great question. i want to see, sure. >> let's go back and look at the equipment and the fire pump on the fire engine. >> this is a fire pump. it is cool all the colors and all that. this fire pump and this engine holds 5 gallons of water that is a lot. >> a lot of water. is push out a minute of water. we can lose our 500 gammons

quickly. why u like this to connect to a fire hydrant and s unlimited amount of water to help put a fire out temperature is important we have enough fire engine in san francisco to put out. so we can reduce the injuries and loss of life and minimize property damage. [music] >> mr. will. mr. will. will! >> oh. daydreaming. thanks, everybody for watching! bye!■+h' announcement

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