ficer john norment of bayview station to be recognized by tmmission tonight. john has been a member of the department for 17 years. he has been at bayview for almost 15 years. his first three years at bayview, he was on the third street foot beat, where he was also therate neighborhood community groups. the next 12 n on the public housing detail, where he was in charge ing police community events, including turkey backpack, toy ays. he represented the department at multiple community new construction of public housing developments and represented the department in monthly meetings with the public housing development managers. he was in charge of the reading partners program, where officers volunteered to tutor bharte behind in their reading skills. he was active in the wilderness program, where he drove neighborhood youth on]f, and rafting excursions.

john has been a mentor and a to all the officers at bayview station. he has for his job, a great joy for his family and i have to say this, but john is his career in the police department is coming to an end so that's why i wanted to acknowledge him tonight. in september, john will be retiring from the police department in 2020. john was diagnosed with a severe, medical condition that i can't pronounce the name. he told me what it was and there's no way i could do it. but he told me i was his lieutenant at the time and john had come to work since then. every day he still has a happy smiley guy, a mentor to the young officers, great with the community. he never he never complained about it. he never let them down. and it's just it's going to lose him at the station because he's been such a great influence on the officers he's been if you look at if you're looking for a picture of an ambassador for communicing it's officer john norman. therefore, i'd like to present to you officer john norman of bayview station.

please. come on, come on. up we want to allow you the opportunity to speak if you want or you can choose not to. i'd like to thank the captains. i completely beside myself for this, but i'd like toy wife and my kids who didn't get to see me for 17 years. so reunited and reacquaint soon and also thank you for your support. this is a great city and i'm going to well hold on, i'm going to give the chief an opportunity to speak real quick. and then i think some other commissioners have some things we'd like to share as well. thank you. president elias. norman, i've seen you out there and we've talked out in the field and everything that captain connor said. i've seen just how you engage with people, i always friendly when i've seen you. and i hear. thank you. it's been a long career for of time that, as you said, you've spent away fro family. but you've done a lot and you've touched a lot of people within the community. so again

thank you. and, we will definitely miss what y city and what you've brought to everywhere that you work and tojohn, with us. so thank you very much. thank first of all, i'm so happy you're representing home home district. so glad to see that. second question is, are you really retiring or are you doing what people do as they retire but then end up working more work little bit more? yeah. before i was, before was here with the city, i was in the city of walnutek for 18 years. oh, wow. so i've been doing this a long time. not of that was in the police. well, i started out in the police depart myself through, through college. and i don't know, sometimes i'm not sure if i got went up or down, but it's it's been overwhelming. wow. what i want to say congratulations. and one of the things that really sticks out to me, what the captain said about you is not only think that that that's something that i think is rare nowadays, is finding a mentor that you can

look up to. and not only but a mentor who takes you under their wing and really guides you and shows you the i have been fortunate enough to have a few amazing mentors in can tell you that they make such an impact on just who you are and how you handle yourself and how you conduct yourselfx and the fact that you're being recognized for that skill set, i think, speaks volumes, because not many people can do it. andhe fact that you do it and do it apparently. well i want to commend thank you from someone who has benefited from great mentorship because it is a huge it's a huge thing. and i think that oftentimes overlooked. i also want to thank not only yowant to thank your family because it's really them and all of they have endured for many years that allows you to be here today. the missed games, the single parenting, the missed holidays. you know, policing is not a 9 to 5 job. so i wantank the family for allowing us to benefit and dedication while he is away from

you. and thank you for your sacrifice without your sacrifice, he wouldn't be here and beingeverything he has to the city and to the fellow officers, which i think really it resonates. and when we have good officers that mentor and tea other officers, especially young officers, it goes such a long way. andes change. that's how change in organization happens. and it's so important. so i'm really sad to see you hope that you thoroughly enjoy retirement actual retirement, not let me still work type of retirement and take some time and just have fun. so thank you. that's awfully kind. commissioner benedicto. thank you very much, president elias. andons again, officer both on this recognition and on your long tenure. and retirement, you know, echoing what what the what president ly said, i do want to acknowledge your family, you know just last week that, you know, the officers do a service in service to the city for what they to allow to allow you to serve the city. i know you have members your family here if you would like. no obligation. you're welcome tosb

opportunity, please do. this is my wife, jennifer. my son mason my son merrick, my son lane mother in law, elizabeth. wonderful. thank you all. so much for coming. and congratulations to you. commissioner yanez oh, wait, there's more. there's you got. yeah, yeah, yeah. you may want to stand. thank you for your service to the community. thank you for your and specifically to the bayview. i know that, we talkcing a lot, but someone that takes the time to not only mentor, but tutor young people, you know, that's a holistic approach. policing isn't solely enforcing the law. policing is also letting young people know and letting the community know that we wear many hats. right. and that in in life, you have to be able to what they call codemes if you could actually communicate, make an impact on young people it willingness you have that humility. so i thank you for your family for letting us have his energy to keep our our streets safe. i hope you enjoy

retirement. commissioner or commissionerkx> you, madam president. so i'm the newbie, officer norman. so i'm. this is my second meeting. so last week, i got to see the sort of protocr colleagues also received this award. so what i want to do is congratulations to you on your retirement. but also thank you for your service to thex? community. what you do each and every day is very difficult. people don't realize that and you get up and you do it because this is something you do you believe in, and you do it at the best you can, each and every day. i had a gentleman who was on this commission many, many years agoor a football player, his name was burl toler. he was on that great usf dons team, the 51 team was uninvited, untied, and mr. toler, one of the things he said to him, myself and his son who were roommates at cal, i played baseball, son played football, he says. do your best and your best will be good enough. and each and every day, based upon what i've heard, i know each and every day you did your best.t you doing your best, and they got to see that. the idea

a mentor to many they got to see how you done things aoing to you're going to leave, but they're going to remember that an what? you know, officer norman, this is how he would do it. and i learned from somebody who was the best because you are the best. you as a public servant each and every day, each and every one of you who serves in you each you each deserve a trophy. everybody says everyone doesn't get a trophy, but all your department. these other departments of public servants you give your all each or everyone. so yes, you do deserve a trophy each and every day. but y are the all star. and i want tonk you very much for your service and best wishes. okay. commissioner yee, thank you very much.m$ there. president elias, i just want to thank you, officer john, for all your hard work, i know you put out housing. i guess the housing unit in the point. it's as, many of you guys will know, it's ere, too, myself and, to outreach to the kids out there and working on the programs and

wilderness programs that you successfully you know, tutor and mentor these kids. you probably change so many lives over there that, we want to thank you have done keep them safe and safer. so thanks again for your service, and we'll see you out there when you're coming thank the family for all your support, as i say i want to give you guys a another round of a as the weekly all the services, recognition. i know you got the monthly. so thank you very much commissioner walker thank you, president elias i won't repeat, but i agree with everything that's been said, i do want to say that there is a lot of opportunities for coming back and being the mentor, a good mentor you are on your hour, you know, at your demand instead of, you know taking away from the family. an to what everybody has mentioned that you know, the, the, the mentoring aspect of passing along whatth the community. engagement

is really important, and t opportunities now with the with the department and some more programs. so thank you and thank you and we'll miss you see you part time. thank you sergeant. at this time, if public would like to make public comment regarding line item one, please app we have a public comment. i had to get up here. my name is tanita rockmore thompson. i am the director of racial equity and reuitment attorney at the department of police accountability. but prior to that, i was at the san francisco district attorney's office, and john n'f actually one of my witnesses in an officer involvedg matter at trial that i had and was absolu one of the best officers that i've ever worked with, is a mentor to these officers, because if i needed a cell phone number, s going to give it to me. you know, they

hate to give their cell phonee absolutely amazing. and thank you. oh, thank you, your family, for supporting him. absolutely. i just had to come up here and say that because it was always work with john. and he became basically a friend and family throughout my years at the da's office. oh, thank you for sharing. miss thompson's a hard sell, so if and the family can get up for the next one, and that police commission right after work hours, i know the family. and there is no further public comment on line item one, two housekeeping items before we continue line item seven and line item 12 e and 12 f have been removed from tonight's item two general public comment. at this time the public is now welcome to address the commission for up not appear on tonight's agenda, but are within the subject matter jurisdiction of the police commission under police

commission. rules of order. during public comment, neither police or ppe personnel nor commissioners are required to respond to questions by the public, but a brief response. alternatively, you may submit public comment in either ofil the secretary of the police commission at sfpd. commission at comments may be sent via us postal service to the public safety building, located at 1245 third street, san francisco california. 94158. if you wouldmake public comment please approach the podium. hi folks, i'm h brown and i want john to paris. i want to send some of our firefighters to rome, to a acy drifting down from, from my very good, california san francisco. francisco foreign legion. we've got a peace corps. it's worked fine for 60 yes or something. let's do a corps where i think that one of the big problems with the san francisco police that they're inbred. i mean, that's

okay. i'm a hillbilly from the ozarks and all that, but there's an got to spread out and bring in some different cultur &xe in firehouses and into your stations. and we can do that by sending start with a couple dozen people a year, nurses, firefighters, cops for sure. but firefighters did you know that the san francisco plugs are different than any plugs the hook ups are different, and if you get a 10 or 12 people here for two years, they're going to know that system backwards. and after ten years, you'll have a thousand people coming from all over the world to assist us in an earthquake. a they will know our systems, they will know our fire plugs, they will know our have mellowed out. our culture. good evening. police commission chief scott and the executive director of police accountability. for the record

my name is chris klein. last week i pro;pvided information on a statement that was very direct of a senior official within the city and county of san francisco. i turn that over to july 11th. as each of you will be making tough decisions in the coming days related to that issue. tonight, i want to focus on peace few of you know that i'm the ceo of pavan. prejudice and violence ends now. we are local and have offices in bosto maryland, west virginia and pennsylvania and expanding elsewhere. we provide, as you know, complex investigative, investigative skill set as at hand. last week. however, we also offer community violence and bringing communities together. we crucial insight from the local community first responders, and other civic and political leaders. the last few days, weeks and longer have brought great divide locally and nationals time to bring our community together with no hatred and with peaceful intentions. no one should have to worry about voting getting assaulted just because they voted for what

they believed in. the police commission, the police department, and the chief of with my nonprofit, will work alongside each of you, the city and county of san francisco, bringing a peaceful san francisco back at pavan. we believe in strong individuals for stronger families, for th communities. but not just our community, the ones next to community. the prejudice and violence needs to stop immediately. thank you good evening, commissioner. good evening chief. my name is jay connor. b ortega and i'm co-president of iconic d3. i want to thank the men and women of the san francisco policer= department for the incredible work they do to keep us safe. i also want the police commission and mirror what he had meeting. your job as commissioners inot to interpret what you think. the laws we pass mean. your job is to f as written. now

i come here constantlyl that if you do not allow sfpd to do their jobs, people like me explain to the public that you all put cri community, which you do, and we put forward ballot measures that force you all to rewrite dgos as we're currently doing now, if last week's meeting is any indication of what is to e this commission is going to go outside of the scope of prop e and we will see. yet another ballot measure which will continue to limit this commission even more. now problem if we, the people, continue to pass ballot initiatives until there is no police commission. but if you all san francisco to believe this commission's ability to serve our residents, then i expect you all to follow the law as it is and there's no further public comment. line item three chief's report discussion weekly crime trends

and public safety concerns provide an overview of offenses incidents, or events occurring in san francisco having an impact on public safety. commission discussion on unplanned events and activities. the chief describes will be limited to determining whether to calendar for future meeting. chief scou. good evening, president elias. vice president carter henderson in the public. starting this weeks crime trends, we are still at 32% reduction in total. crimes. that's a difference of about 9000 crimes fewer than this time last year. property crimes isd violent crimes is at 11% below where wetime last year. homicides, are we have 18 year to date. we 2e this time last year. our homicide clearance rate year3 incidents. 13 of those 18 homicides were firearm related. and in termof gun related crime, our total gun victims are down 29% from where theyr

this year, 121 compared to 86 this year. in terms of property crimes the property crimes are as i said last week, are really the reason that we have such a significant drop inur larcenies are down significantlyour car break ins are down 55, year to date. so we have just over 5000 car break ins compared to over 11,0 11,000 this time last year. in terms of significant events for t about this last week just briefly, but it's in this week's reporting period. we had a homicide that occurred on min ss 16th and 17th. this was on monday july at 12:17 a.m. the victim succumbed to his injuries on t and was actually was transported. condition. another victim was transported in stable condition. i'm sorry. so there were two victims at all. there was also multiple vehicle collision at that scene that resulted in at least four vehicles being damaged in that vehicle collision. and we

believe that was as a result of the shooting as well. that investigation is still ongoing with no arrests at this time. if formation, you can please call the sfpd anonymous tip lineerms of shootings, there were four non-fatal shootings this week, resulting in four victims. the first one was on july laguna, this was during a carjacking where a victim was shot by two subjects who produced a gun and shot one of the victims. that car was later recovered, but the victim, i mean, the suspect is still outstanding. so that investigation is ongoing on july 8th, there was a shooting at the 400 block of eddy street in the tenderloin. this happened at entered the lobby of a residential building. the victim, who was the manager of the building, did not recognize the subject and refused to let him enter the subject, thenfrom the location. that victim is listed in stable condition with non-life threatening injuries thatnvestigation is ongoing.

no arrests at this time. the third shooting was onat 958 600 block of o'farrell in the tenderloi at 9:58 a.m. as i said, the victim was walking in the area when he was struck by a bullet. no further information was obtained by the victim. nonlife threatening injuries. and that is still under inv. july 12th at 3:05 a.m. at larkin tenderloin. the victim was walking when he saw two subjects arguing. gunshots and returned to his residence, and then later realized he had been shot. he had a gunshot wound. the victim was transported was in stable condition, non-life threatening injuries, and that investigation is still ongoing as well. no arrests at this time. a couple of other significant incidents. this one is tragic. on july 13th, this past saturday, tenderloin officers responded to a suicide. where a gentleman by the name of ellie. i'm sorry. this was the baby. the father of a three year old

named ellie. lorenzo. the father committed suicide in san francisco. we had received a request from fremont police department that his three year old daughter wasyear old's name was ellie lorenzo, and we assisted with the search since theer he committed suicide. that three year old was later found jose. deceased, very tragic situation. as far as the plays suspected at this time. and fremont is in san jose are both handling their respective investigations, the san francisco connectio the father committed suicide in san francisco, there were a couple of atm robberies. these were on the 13th of july. there were two calls regarding theft of inside retail establishments. one on the 400 block of o'farrell at 4:45 a.m, the other on the 800 block of o'farrell. just minutes later in both incidents, the subjects gained access inside the store and attempted to steal atm machines. the second incident, the machine e time officers got there the suspects had fled and the machine was

still on the premises. we do have some follow up, to conduct on this. no suspects in custody at this time, but the collision on july 11th pedestrian was hit by a vehicle at the area of gena. and delano avenue in the ingleside police district. the pe pronounced deceased at the scene and the driver remained at the scene. investigation is ongoing and, the last incident of significance to report there was a media report of a sideshow that ended up in an accident or traffic collision, on market street. this was, actually not thevealed that it was actually a single vehicle that was doing donuts in the street. driver apparently lost control and drove into the building. so the report that this was as a result of the sideshow, was actually not to be the case, video evidence to be a single vehicle

involved in this in this particular incident. so that investigation is still ongoing. but i just want to report that that was not as a result of the sideshow in terms of our sideshow or stunt driviz7ng events. there has been a decrease in the amount of year to the police. there was approximately 40. we're not approximately exactly 45 incidents for all of last year, this year there has been 22. so we're seeing, the ra events are actually a little bit less than time last year. so we will keep the commission posted on that. we have impounded some cars, not a whole lot, but we have impounded some cars aftern! the fact. and that strategy and that tactic will continue. and that is my report for the week. so for members of the public comment regarding line item three, the chief's report, please approach

the podium. hi i'm h brown again and i don't speak for progressives, but have you seen that progressive kerfuffle going on over there? over you guys and the drop program and oh, hillary clinton, aaron is going over her head and, asserting authority, chief, you have to do that every now and then yourself, i guess. but progressives are don't have anyt making money. i was telling some cops in the corner ghter. i'd give a million bucks tax free to anybody who can makehave to stay another five years. and you know what? there' this damn city to cover it. easy with the trillion left over. we had some kind of an evening out of wealth, transfer of wealth from the trillionaires and billionaires who own it't have any problem here. but congratulations on your drop victory. what else i got there? the kerfuffle. people. i ran into two ambassadors down on the street walking, on,he

live? valencia today and that's the first time seen anybody on foot. and i stopped and i said, what the hell are you doing down here on foot? i thought you guys were only out on the avenue. oh, no.tching around. but you know, the fun and the drop program is going to take away from the ambassador program. it's also going to take away from kids, lunches and bullshit like that. i mean, i love drop but let's drop. drop for now. thank you." sergeant, do i turn and look? no, i this meeting is going to swiftly paul allen. i would belabor thist that i've already provided it to you in writing, it's worth noting that i think we now have a general, inverse corr between, overdose deaths on the one hand and arrests of other. and that's evident from for periods

of time. one, around the time of the apec summit, in the lead up to that, secondly, the four month period from january through april, when arrests went upd deaths went down, then you have the may period of time when arrests plummeted and deaths increased, and then you have the most recent monthed. as i pointed out in the memo, obviously causation. number one. and number two, this could data. as i suggested in my memo commission has a perhaps not an obligation21but it has an opportunity to obtain additional information from the department of public health as to what other variables might this behavior. i noted stanford speculated even yesterday in an interview that, well, perhaps this was because thoseonl now, are kind of serious u stumbled

into it, and that could be an but of course we don't know. that's as much speculation as as anything i did. look on site. i didn't see any at least that i could determine with respect to interventions the number of interventions, for example, by month, successful or otherwise. and indeed, there is would be useful. again, i think it's ansion, which i know you don't have to request this data from the department of public health so that there can be a general, generally a better. thank you. your two minutes is up. thank you. further public comment. line item for dpa director's report recent activities and announcements. commission discussion will bening whether to counter any of the issues raised for future commission meeting. executive director henderson thank you, as i think i mentioned this before, b into clearing up our case

backlogs that 270 report day, that i typically report on every week last week i reported one. and i just learned that our closure rate is now down to zero. so we now have zero cases that are not tolling. for the record, that is the lowest that it has ever been in the history of the agency. it's a very big deal, again, i want to thank our investigators for all of their hard work and prioritiz and closing cases, because it's a combination of bing done at the same time. that got us to this point, really proud of that. and those numbers in terms of, our continuing effort to clear out our the backlog of cases, including the are here with the commission our office is presenting four of those cases in closed session tonight to be resolved. that'secause

that represents one third of all of the cases theen pending, that we normally report on every week in terms of the backlog that we have. so that's a big deal, we met this week, with the internal affairs division to brainstorm how to effectively improve both of our efficiencies in terms of our ongoing workng think that was a productive meeting, and i look forward to continuing these3r conversations over the next few months. this is one of the first timesether collaboratively to do exactly this. i wi say some of the things that we mentioned before, because we just got that big@ report from iad that i thought was very illuminating in terms apples for the work that gets done with the dpa. and i still have an ongoing suggestion that i'm going to reach out to iad. i think i mentioned this to the chief, and i know i mentioned it in the meeting to do a similar sort of openness report. so it's more than just the beginning measurement. we have an exit information summary of the kind

of cases thasustained. in addition to the information that's already being provided to the commission. so i'l keep you updated on that project. i think now is a good time to do something like that. while dpa has, summer fellows that are doing some of this work and may be helpful, some of internal affairs, so that creating new work, we may be able to address that, we've been having a lot in terms of internal, issues. we've had lot of workload, and balances and personnel changes with unexpected leaves. a lot of the results of that has givenults or many of the results that i just talked about. andbeen meeting with, our staf with the unions to address, those changes that have happened in the past. we've introduced a new org we just had another all hands meeting is now continue meeting with both m and the unions to make sure that we are still on the

oing and i think we're in a stable. good place. and we address, both our reporting obligations and ourssion statements within the agency that's internally. externally, we we are working with san diego county, reached out[2hyus and county, that wants both police accountability and sheriff accountability on the models that we're using and replicating the[d legislation that produced both the jurisdiction and the staffit dpa to try and replicate some of those measures there. and we'llking with them, and i'll give you updates as that process continues. asrms of monitoring the our numbers, our investigative unit has opened up nine cases since our last meeting and closed 28 cases since our las commission meeting, so we are continuing to exceed our efficiencies, with our cases, our audit field testing,

will complete the field testing by th month. and after our field work, we'll with sfpd and prepare a draft response that will be presented to this commission, also this week, our policy unit met with the police department's sme. the subject matter expert on dgo 6.13. that's our discuss goals for the update and the current draft, and we'll be those recommendations to the department next have, as i mentioned earlier four cases and tonight, and we will address those when they come up, also present in the courtroom o room tonight is our senior investigator, brant bagian, our trial attorney, tanita thompson. policy director jermaine jones. and. you know, i'm so terrible

with the names. it's a lot, and it's terrible. and also, our head. oh head of the legalm, deanna rosenstein. i'm bad with names. we'll cut you off. all right. vice president carter overstone, thank you, d, for the report, just one question, which is wondering if you had a sense, time wise, of when the public might see dpa's audit on sfpd stop data and then second piece is, i represented that, executive mcguire had given dpa all of the data it requested but wanted to ask if that was still the case, we have i have the stop data, audit on my desk as we speak. it was just given to me yesterday, and we are very soon, i may actually have it here

supposed to be reviewing. reviewing it, i don't date, but very soon i think the draft is already finished, and the information at this point, is the information that was given to us will be reflected in the audit and the information that was not given to us will be reflected in the audit. with a drill down outline of the details authorized to receive, what we did receive and w that question will be answered directly and specifically. i know that's one of the questions answered in this audit, as well as recommendations about shared information. there will be no ambiguity in it. i don't know if that answers the question, but. for members of the public who would like to make public commenmgt regarding line item four please approach the podium. director henderson's a great guydz and he's got a tough job over there. i can look back

in the back where, the cops were, chief, back before you they felt free to burglarize the acc down the chief attorney. and they assaulted, one of them. martin assaulted baronetcy and, very the report to the chief and said, so she came back i think i told the story but being old, we retell stories and she came back and saw a couple of weeks later and said, what do you want me to do with this, chief? what would you do if one one of these assaulted one of your commissioners and they gave they personally gave paper on it. would you act on that? i bet you i'm sorry that violates the rule, sergeant. i'm sorry. the anyway, i like, paul very much. and, you know, he could be president because willie picked kamal overto go in to be the da and so. and then when i ran, i run for the ideas. in 2007, kamala waspposed for da and went on. and good

chanthis weekend, and we might have a president th knew her when, you know, but it could have been you, paul henderson. but but but i'm but i'm going to back this ballot measure. i'm going to back this ballot measure. and the one for elected police chief, because i think they should both be on the ballot. and you've done a gause you came into a hellhole. glory. you're welcome. yeah thank you sergeant. our line i and possible action. commission reports will be limited to a brief description of activities and announcements. commission discussion will be limited to determining whether to counter any of the issues raised for a future commission msioners reports and commission announcements and scheduling of itemsion at a future commission meeting. commissioner walker i wanted to mention a couple of things. just updates. i know that both the chief and i have talked with folks about the patrol specials. that's going to be coming up after our, our august off. but

also, i, was checked in by the women's committee, who are working within the department to department fulfills the 30 by 30 commitment of hiring 30% of officers by 2030. and i know that, diana olivier called me and updated me discussing how many women in the gotten together to be part of the conversation about really making recommendations to the chief, to really change4q things, to make sure that we carry out and succeed in our 30 by 30. so i'm really looking forward to it. i would likerve time on the september 18th meeting for an update from the department, on the 30 by 30 and the efforts made. it's very impressive. there's a lot to do.

obviously, there's, a lot we've already been working on over the, over years but there's so much more to do. and i really look forward and i know the commission is to an epartment moving forward. and thank you, chief, for really prioring. you know, it's really an important issue. so thasi thank you, for my. just a quick update, what? go also mention that working on this and i've been meeting with them since i've been put on the, on the commission are also, commander jones, who's here tonight? commander moran and captain alexa o'brien. those are the leadership who are really putting together. but there's dozens of women who are in the department who really, are really interested in the discussions about policy and moving forward. so thank you. great.?v we encourage policy writers and policy people. so that's right. we're doing it, so

i wanted to give an update. i was able to meet with, the bwc unit i want want to thank the chief because g=i reache meet with the bwc unit to better understand how! body worn cameras logistically will be operating. once we implement15 all of these dgos and the chief with his staff were able to accommodate a meeting with myself and commissioner benedicto to walk us camera unit. the procedures theort of the accomplishments and challenges that this unit faces. i want to thank and send a huge shout out to sergeant bwc unit, as well as i think it lu. yes who took the time to walk us through, the intricate detail of what it really takes when body worn camera footage is requested and how they have to review it, redact it, and the amount of time, and detail that it

takes, which was really eye opening to me, and they despite having a team of ten, they are only operating with eight. and the amount of work that they do and are able to generate is just really really impressive. so i want immensely for taking the time out of their schedule to walk meive and answer questions that i had. i also wanted to, thank the unit, as well, who took the me some of the, the contract and new additions that the body worn camera unit, as well as would be having. and so it was very interesting to see, and i think that in, we will definitely be agendizing that because i think it's important for what really goes into, body worn cameras and what that unit does avy task that it takes to actually get body worn camera footage, because it seems that the direction is going to be camera footage, it, or body worn e going to be utilized much more moving forward. and so we really need

the public is aware of how that process works, what that looks of the, hindrances that it's going to have on the department transition. so i wanted to send a huge shout out to the, the staff and those individuals who attended the meeting commissioner benedicto, i can't wait. thank you, president elias, just a few things, for my reports. i, as last week we passed a number of the dgos that are, implemented as part of prop e, and today we have some of the remainder we put on, i want to again, thank my fellow commissioners for, the big lift to get these dgos to where they're at and hope that we can get those get those through this evening, and we'll reserve specific comments on those for when those come up, i also want tof$ thank acknowledge commissioner yanez i've had the privilege to work with coeral of the dgos that affect the rights of juveniles. those are 7.01 which hope to have before us

soon and 7.04, which was on the agenda but in part because of some concerns that commissioner yanez had heard from community groups. so we're going to take the opportunity to to rework that, commissioner yane long and established community roots, to these communities in particular in this area of÷4 and i really want to thank commissioner yanez for his his leadership on this. and both, tj 7.04 and 7.01 are significantly thanks to the input that commissioner yanez, as well as groupsought to the table, have provided. so thank you for that,that concludes my report. thank you, commissioner yanez. thank you, president eliason. thank you, commissioner benedicto, i think you, it takes takes a village, they say. right. and we definitely need as many voices and perspectives to be able to improve, san francisco safety for all young people and whatever age they identi my report will be brief. i do want to publicly. because the reason why you know, the voters created this commission, the

reason why we're here is because we are about transparency, accountability. i'm going to hold myself accountable if i miss an email, i've been in bereavement. my father passed away may 13th. jesus. yanez. vasquez, and he's the you know, he was an organizer in mexico, actually, back in then organizers in mexico were murdered in those days. so, you know i have a history of speaking truth to power. this is the reason i'm here. and i'm going to hold myself accountable. if i owe anyone an email, it will be returned, because the bereavement was a little lonélñ ork, and i want to give an update around the language. 052. oh, i know that the work groups are going to begin. thank you, to your staff chief, for being verycommunicative about the process. and i have been reaching out to, groups in the community. san francisco language access network engaged and wants to participate and will be grateful to

this commission and yourself, chiefan staff for prioritizing this asthese, one of the outcomes of prop e for us to have as much community that the members of this community that do not have, the unrs in english to better access those services for translation ]l and interpretation, if ever they need those, the other update i have is and i thank you commissioner benedicto, for putting 701 back on the radar because it is one of those that has received many points of. and throughout the course of over two ars now,rá i think we have made a lot of progress, there we challenges, some obstacles. that one at many points. and we still haven't resolved all the obstacles, but i think we are closer to a place where, the both the advocates and the community and the young people are going toefit from the product that is going to come 701. so i am happy. i'm glad that we will be agendizing that , for completion and

authorization, and i want to make sure that we do not forget that over ax year ago, we did have a presentation about the intention of this body department to initiate an evidence basedractice that has been adopted by los angeles, by oakland and other jurisdictions across the nation, which is to establish a pre-booking diversion program that would giveou of programing in lieu ofharges being held in abeyance if and when programs that are evidence based models have been adamant about the implementation or the creation of this program is because of my history of 30ung people, adolescence, and the fact that i have, our providers, our community and this department, to understand that young people deserve to be treated differently. adolescent development goes into their 20s. and just because the law says that once you're 18, you're

supposed to understand right from wrong. and every law doe not necessarily mean that every individual out there really grasps these things. right, so i hope that we can i hadto kind of coincide with the year had a joint presentation with the juvenile probation commission, , but here we are a year later, and we have not necessarily launched, as i had hoped we had or would have hoped. we have gotten to the program. and so i asked one of our community partners for numbersed since i've engaged in this conversation, we looked at from jan july 2nd of 24. and in that period there have been a total of 370 with the community calls unduplicated referrals. so new young people referred into the juvenile justice system, and we there has evidence, plenty of studies done on the mattert with the juvenile justice system, leads

to further criminalization and further involvement in the criminal justice system for young people. there have been 370 people who have entered the system p could have been, involved in the program to divert them from system. now, i don't know, out of thosey of them would have been eligible? i'm working with the juvenile probation department to obtain that information, but i just want the public to know that 370 young people who may not ever ha had to have formal involvement with the system that are unfortunately involved in the system in some way, shape or form. and so i think it really compels us, and, and i hope that the pressure that these numbers tell a story and track, the process so that we get, get to the point where we can actually implement and begin to offer an program that has demonstrated it can save lives, that has

demonstrated it can redirect young people into where they can address whatever mental health abuse needs or whatever conditions that may. they may them to contact with the system. so i hope we can agendize that we i can have everybody come back and hopefully we cn september. thank you. okay. vice president carter well, first and foremost just wanted yanez and his family condolences on his, you know for sharing those by dad and his legacy that you're carrying forward in many ways including the important work that you do on thisír commission, and thank you for continuing to serve the public during this very difficult tim, just wanted to acknowledge that it'srstanding that today is the day that joe 9.07 has become effective. our policy to de-emphasize, traffic stops that have no public safety benefit

just wanted to acknowledge know, dozens of jurisdictions all across the country have implemented some version of this policy. it's been an everywhere that it's been attempted. and that dataopasit. and i'm heartened that the people of san francisco will be able to share in the benefits that millions of americans have reaped over the last few years. i want to thank chief scott fori want to thank every single commissioner up here who was a commissioner at the time that the policy wasg enacted, who all voted for the policy at one point or all the members of the community from across the ideological spectrum, who came out and supported this policy commissioner clay. yeah just for the for commissioner yanez, as relates to the group group getting together as it relates to the restorative justice type of thing, the guidance for the diversion, what you're going to need to do is get the involved. also, as a matter of law, they have to be involved. so i would hope that someone from the courts has been

contacted, along with the prosecutors as well as the the police department, so they can do that together because they have to theye court that once you do that, you can't do that as a matter of law. so get them. i hope someone's got them involved also because that's import to get them there. okay. the juvenile justice commission came and did an amazing us and showed they work with the court. the juvenile courts think that it would be good to have them back in september to give an update to commissioner clay, since he's new. and i think his experience obviously would be beneficial in this process. it'll be our september surprise. greata$ thank you, sergeantmber of the public would like to make public comment regarding line item fivepproach the podium. favorite commenter hi i'm h brown again. i just want to give an attaboy to this commission. i mean, you guys havethrough, more shit than anybody since the school board a coupl and

all that, dump them, go after them, attack them, blah, blah, blah.side, my question to all of you, what are with mayor peskin? i mean, you think the shit hit the fan now? it's going to be very interesting but you have a wonderful group here, a really fantastic group and they're friendlier and more accessible than any, commission that i've seen up here in watching you for 30 years. and hang in there and thank you so much for your work and welcome aboard, commissioner clay. you are such a good addition. thank you good evening everyone. my name is jirillo. i'm a local social worker and skateboarder, give me if the dolores hill bomb topic was already mentioned i just want to continue the topic of reaching out to youth in the city, actuall

t say, it was about a 113 people were arrested at the dolores hill bomb, which is skaters going down dolores street. most were youth, so i just wanted to recommend further discussion about sfpd's community outreach andaboration with other departments, specifically mta and the recent hill bomb at dolores park. last july 6th, a little over ten days example of sfpd. unfortunately prioritizing a approach, and it involved excessive overtime as well as what appeared to be violations of ada laws and transportation codes, if this is workingn anyone guide me on how tohotos? all right. thank you. you may see this was on church street, and again, thank to continue on church street. but just, just a logistical thing. you can see someone's about to fall, there's a potholes there. there's train tracks luckily, people were able to continue, church street without being arrested, but this was an example of, you know, how

many officers were there on dolores street and the event just ending up one s it actually ended up on a more dangerous street, where people fall. so just recommending further discussion about dolores street and also just there's other factors with ada laws and how the public is perceiving the use of police time. again, i think there's definitely potential for more outreach. and people can be on the same page. but, let's if the youth can be invited in that as well in the future. thank you. that is the end line item six presentation and discussion on the law enforcement equipment annual policy, annual report 2023 discussion and possible action. good evening. my name is aja steeves and i am the manager of

the policy development division. and i'm here to present on our annual report relating to, ab 4081, which is the military equipment, assembly bill. thank you. so ab 41 went into effect in september 2021. it codified a california government code, section it requires law enforcement agencies in california from the applicable governing body. in our case board of supervisors it requires the approval of a law enforcement use of equipment policy by ordinance. and it first actually r agency to get an approved use policy for everything that they had within their inventory and everything they had acquired before. january 1st, 2022. so ab 41 defines the categories of the ce enforcement equipment. again, it requires all of these law enforcement agencies to seek approval of the use of that equipment, and that approval must be done by way of ordinance, ou was signed by the

mayor december effective date was january 22nd, 2023. this does mandate an annual review, which is what we're herek& and also annual review by the board. and the board just reviews our compliance with the use policy that was approved last year. next slide. thank you. so this is just a review of theroval process itself of the use policy, we had a bunch of public hearings last year between the date of submission in may 202 approval in december 2020. excuse me, 2022. there were the department captured over 43 policy recomme%ndatio process. you can find those recommendations on our website. there is a tab specifically designated for the law, and it captures. there's a section on our website that has all of the documentation that was gathered during you want to look for those 43 recommendations and our responses, that's avail oable presented to this body last february to go over the use policy as it was approved. next slide, this is the this slide

just goes over the ab 41 inventory categories. and theseij again are the items that were acquired by the department before january 1st, 2022. remotely piloted powered ground vehicles, armored personnel carriers, wheeled vehicles that have a breaching or entry apparatus attached command and control vehicles breaching apparatuses that are explosive in nature. flashbang grenades and pepper balls excluding standard service issued handheld. long range acoustic device. elrod specialized firea than 50 caliber, with the exception of standard issue aps does exclude the rifles that are assigned to patrol projectile launch platforms and their associated munitions. next slides a list of the annual report requirements that actually landed in the annual report. it's a summary of how the covered equipment was used and the purpose of use, a summary of any complaints or conservederns received about that particular equipment, the results of info about violations of the equipment. use policy. total

annual costs for each type of equipment, including training, ma, upgrades and also the source of funds. sos operational funds that was paying for it, grant funding etc. next slide please, the annual report also includes the quantity possessed for each type of equipment and also notifies the reader and the public if sfgp intends to acquire additional equipment subject to the and the next year and the quantity sought. the department also opted to include information about whether injuries were sustained during the use of each type of equipment. next slide. thank you. so why arere? the inaugural annual report was publicly posted on the website june 11th, 2024. we did seek and receive an and their deadline that they put on to us 15th. so within 30 days of publicly is required to have at least one public general public can ask questions regarding the funding acquisition or use of equipment listed in the report. the board of supervisors shall determine based on review of the annual

report whether each type of equipm policy complied with the standards of. excuse me government code 70sentially just means did we comply with the authorized uses approved by the board, if the board determines that sfpd has not complied with the government code 70, 71tandards or our use policy they may vote to disapprove a renewed or require modifications to the use policy. and the department is also considerin an additional public meeting through the captain's town halls. we don'tecifically scheduled but we are aiming for mission station they have a station. town hall scheduled for august, so we may hold another meeting to discuss this policy there. so that's just an overview of the annual report itself. i am joined by deputy chief raj vaswani who the special ops bureau and the special ops bureau actually maintains t this equipment. so he's here to help answer any questions that but happy to take any questions so we can start the discussion. question. so procedurally, you bring this here and the public can ask

questions, and then we take a vote to do what? to send it to the board of supervisors. or my understanding is this is just for discussion to allow the public to ask questions and this body to ask questions. and the action board of supervisors. so on page three of your say that there were 11 public hearings. whatic hearings? sure. so, our use policy was submitted to the board and then it was sent to committee, the rules committee. there are several hearings at the rules. and then several at full board. okay. so when you say publ you mean in front of the board of supervisors. so how many community meetings with supervisors, not, any legislative body, not the department, not meetings have been held regarding this. now, the meetings were at the. we don't believe we sought any community meetings for that. so the community meeting because if it's in front of the board of supervisors, the community can engage with you. they're only limited to a two minute public comment, just police commission when we have this before the police commission. unfortunately, all that can come up and give their opinion in two

minutes. so i'm just want clear and i want to understand. so there have been no community meetings regarding this issue that have taken place thus far. yes. or meetings. but to address that we did. why? we sat in the hearings and captured those 43 recommendations came from the public commes that cam in, and we wanted to ensure that we were responsive. and they did impact the use policy itself. but i think the way the ordinance is written, it says community meetings andarting to look at policing different, especially with prop e and prop e'ush to have community involvement and have meetings in eachis would be counter to that if we're not also engaging that type of intention of having community involvement in this process. so i wouldn't feel comfortable moving anything forward until involvement and the opportunity for the community to give their face with you and directly, rather than in a two minute conversation, a two minute public, you know, public comment type of setting. understood. well, the use policy has been approved, but with the annual report, that's district station meet to discuss the annual reporthat

should probably be done. and maybe we bring this back in september. a show this commission what efforts the department has made to engage community.x- and like district stations is a good start. but i still think thaal emails about this issue. and the outcry has been there's been no awareness to the community or community involvement or opportunity for the communityraise concerns. so i think that needs to be addressed before we move forward or say that we've because i mean, when yo look at these slides, it looks like you've had community engagement. an i just don't think that that's completely accurate. so, okay, vice president carter overstone thank you, president elias. i guess i'll president elias left off so government code section 7072 b says that there needs to be within 30 days of posting least one well publicized and conveniently located which the general public may discuss and>c ask questions regarding the annual

military equipment seems to require a meeting in which, as it says there can be a free form di two minute public comment, you know, form like this, where there'k0s two minute public comment doesn't seem to meet the requirements of state law. so i that that has to happen before the board votes on it. but different view on what state law requires? no not necessarily, but the authorized use policy, when you actually look at the policy itself, it does name that first meeting to happeybn at not the law, but the policy that was approved by the bo that was approved by way of ordinance does name the police commission as the first stop. understood understood. but but the state law control can't amend state law. right of course. mentioned that the, this is actually, too, that that the board granted'an to file the report. is that right? because i think i saw on on the report online that the last authorization was december of

the ordinance of the of the use policies, the yes, use policy itself was approved in december of 2022. and so state law requires reauthorization every year. correct? right. okay so normally that that should mean december or january of this year. but but here we are seven months later. so you're saying we're seven months lat because the board authorized it. no the reauthorization of the use is based on the review of the annual report, nu inaugural annual report was the thing thator. and the board said we could submit it no later than june held their hearing to review the annual report and then determine whether it can be renewed or not. but under state law the one year clock started running at the end of december, when the board last approved the effective date of the actual policy was january of 2023. so started running in january. correct. and so , january of this year is when you should be bac when we should ideally submit the inaugural report. okay

publicly? well, not ideally right. because the because state law doesn't say ideally right. it gives a fixed one year deadline to publicly post the report. so we're out of compliance with state law in correct i would say we did not submit that we did not publicly post the report in january of 2020. i'll take that ask about assault rifles, i think in the report there was this most recent one submitted. there'[÷óçs 300 some odd assault rifles. just wanted to ask about that. ven that the department's representation on its inventory of assault rifles has changed quite a bit in the in its board the last time around, i think there was at one time other times reported that there ise a bit over 300. could you just explain why those representations have changed so substantially? sure. initially, i believe the way it is defined in ab 41 is whether it i, it removes what is it, standard issued rifles. so we

removed the standard issued rifles that are reported the rifles for specialized units. so that's the number that we ended up with in the actual use policy. so that we reported on i see. so this 300 number doesn't include standard issue. and do you&z know or do any of our friends here know what the what#b the num if you included standard issue assault rifles? i don't let me turn my mic on. sorry. yeah, but we can get that very easily. i don't know, off top of my head, no. okay. thank you. and then i think i also saw in the report that you, when you report the use of an assault rifle, you do report when it was just pointed necessarily fired. is that fair? yes. okay that, so, lastajor question. the report says that flashbangs

were used 35 times. quote during the service of high risk search warrants in 2023. i just wanted to ask if there was aon in the department of what constitutes that it would justify the use of flashbangs. so generallyrder is evaluated and if it can, it can occur by a specialized unit, not e tactical company. usually when it comes to tactical company, it means it is a hig risk. it usually means that the person either has accessa weapon. a weapon was used in a crime of violence, it!z c terrain of where the be other high risk people at the address, which would it. there is a standardized matrix that we would look at to see, if it comes to us in the tactical company and is so there's a matrix. so is that know, memorialized in writing and in in a department policõ or manual

or. yes, it is. and procedure to just evaluate, search warrants of premises. and, and so, i take it a number of different factors. and after you tick off enough of them, the search qualifies as high risk. it does. and there's a discussion. there's a discussion between the unit originating the order and tactical company on their capabili and does the matrix require, you know, in addition to the risk factors of executing the require consideration of, the effects that flashbangs might have on, on, you know, innocentviduals that that might live at the residence being searched, such as children or elderly people. they do evaluate, who's they they take a lot of different factors into consideration, and technology doesn't. it's self-contained. it. it's not flammable. it's

contained in a in a container. okay. so it like the older technology was of like it could ignite something. are safer. okay. but and just understand is consideration of the effec might have on, you know, say children or the elderly. is that actually writtene matrix or you're saying this is something that is more informally discussed the swat com they're the swat team is actually trained in taking all kinds of things into consideration, premise. but i guess what i'm theirchange, right? i appreciate i appreciate your answer to that because i'm asking just something slightly different, which is, is it in writing in not? there. there is in writing in the matrix, if there's children present, etc. so ud if we need to have occ there, if

you know things such as that. okay. understood. thank youident carter stone's questioning who authorized the extension i was told that the board did. i don't know if itñ- was by resolution or by communication via email. i was toldion that went through june 15th and. good afternoon, president. you're going to excuse me commissioners, i of a raspy voice today. i'm losing my voice. thank you, doctor for appearing. thank you. my name is diana roach doctor known recently, and i'm the director of policy and public affairs, so i will just clarify that we did submit a letter of request for board clerk and a request that inquiry that came from supervisor dean preston, thatest, after further dialog, was granted. according to what miss steeves just mentioned, in terms of the date of when we'ex to submit the updated report and then that the first the

requirement was that a first police commission occur, and goes, did i get that lineage correct? if it's within 30 days of publicly posting the report, then we have the meeting wiwe can continue to have community meetings that. and then the board will have the hearing. okay and t the other quick question, i'm going to turn over to my fellow commissioners is on page two annual report. number two it says a summary of any complaints or concerns received concerning the equipment. and you indicate no complaints or concerns were received by the department regarding this equipment, which is odd to me email box has been flooded with concerns and complain. so where should the public send these concerns and complaints regarding this policy, they're in t policy, i believe in the initial policy, there's an email ad have the sfpd chief's email address, posted in the use policy requesting any inquiries to come in that way, but it is the way it is worded, it sounds like we need a complaint about the specific equipment, not

necessarily the incident. maybe there's complaints about an incident, where, let's say the bearcat was this is about a complaint about the bearcat specifically. and so we haven't received any complaints about that specific tool. okay so why don't you address so we can to the commission secretary. and we could post it on the post it on the commission website. and then i'm going to ask to re agendize update in terms of you complying with the state law and community involvement commissioner benedicto, thank you very much. of the questions were asked by youe president carter so i won't repeat questions on those points. one question i had the annual report on page ten, equipment not include an annual report. the report notes that unmanned remotely piloted air vehicles were not included as the department did not acquire is passed and which explicitly authorized the use of unmanned aerial vehicles, for pursuits has the department taken# acquire unmanned aerial vehicles? and what is what is

its understanding of in future reports under this ordinance? sure. so just a reminder, this is the annual report that correlates with the use policy of everyt january 1st, 2022. so our understanding is we have submitted, there is legislation at the board introduced for a uav use policy, ab 41 use policy. once it is approved it will require an annual report. so we will come back to this body. we'll have an annual report. we'll then do community meetings. so same same route. but this again is just attached to the annuallicy for everything we had before 2022. okay. so it's your understanding state law under this government code 7072 would still apply to, to anyuq unmanned aerial vehicles the department purchased. that is mykay. and so there would be a use policy that have toe approved by the board that isn't yet approved. notwithstanding any provisions of prop e, still apply. correct? correct. okay, i know we've talked a little bit when it comes to vehicle pursuits at this commission about the star

chase and similar gps launcher technology. would that fall under any of the enumeratedries of government code 7072? thank you for the question. no, but sf admin code 19 b as a surveillance tool.heresenting our authorized use and impact report. okay, that's very helpful. thank you. i'll also agree with what president elias said. based on my reading of 7072, i don't think any vote that's required since you've met tonight that you've met the, you've had the meeting under the commission the government code, 7072. but i do think that this should be7ñç7 would echo president elias's request that the community meetings that's that you could read the 77 two very an opportunity for the public to ask questions. and i thinkthat the commission followed for 9.07 involved, substantial community community feedback. there are now new community feedback requirements imposed on this commission by prop e. and so i think in the spirit, we should all be working to increase that engagement, that we're under the obligation to so, and i also

think that it tr that's done, it's important that this come back was not able to review the report as thoroughly as i would like given that prop e has really consumed a lot of the commission's bandwidth in the months since it passed. and i know i've spoken to many of my fellow commissioners that we're looking forward to sort of being able to return to our other other sortr day to day oversight duties onceate aftermath of prop e. and so i include this. so we look forward to seeing you, for the report in the fall. thank you. commissioner clay. unfortll this the ab 41 here on this commission. so i just a real simple question. i want to follower oberstein's question. so what is the sancti file the report on time? i don't i'mare of the sanction. that's the problem. as a judge and having seen this, the legislature, they make these laws. but there's no sanction for you to as it relates to get some gravitas, making people do what they're supposed to do. so what's important, what i

hearing here, it needs to get done. and there's a law thatedo it. just follow it and get it done. and then we cann# know, that's the unfortunate thing. when you don't have a sanction and may here. but this law doesn't have a sanction. but we're saying to] you, urging you to get it done asap. all right. that's what i have to say. thank you. sir if any member of the public that has pmment regarding line item six, please approach the podium. say you're going to get nobody ever gets tired of me disgusted if it hits out on me. shit like that. but not tired. no the best weapon you got chief. period. is the public and foot patrols. i mean, a few year a cop shot on a pole, guy over, ankíd a guy shot him and killed him in the east bay, and, a hunter cop cars rushed over there. that's great. maybe helicopters, whatever the hell and all that. and f

cops, she said his name is, john doe, and he's over at his aunt's place is two blocks from here. and here's the address. and three more cops got killed. but that's here. nor there. but the fact of the matter is, i lived in the tenderloin. i grew up in a housing project t happens is a criminal does something. they go running down the street and they ghe project. they go running through the sro they go and, the if you kno on the beat, if the cops been there forever, say, hey his name is john doe. and he went to mary, those house and is millions of eyes on the street, you know, of foot patrols, foot patrols, foot patrols. you what you got is, is if you just got change the difference in people riding the desk with a gun here to equal that in los angeles, you would free up 200 officers for the$:,= been promising to do that. and all the 30 yearsvbeen watching foot patrols. my name is john lindsay poland with

theca committee, which is tracked implementation of ab 41 military equipment poli but i have two responses and two points. first, the board reviews not only whether the police department complied with its own policy, but whether it meets state law requirements for safeguarding civil liberties. no reasonable alternatives to meet the same needs, and that the equipment is cost effective. in addition, i have to the email address listed in the policy and two points sfpd ownssí 15 submachine guns and 64 machine guns.se are fully automatic weapons made for war. it also owns asli 600 semi-automatic assault rifles. yet sfpd proposes 12 more machine guns and 16 morexxw no rationale for why more military power firepower is needed than previous years. theo0 victims as we heard earlier in the city has fallen. in fact, year since 2021, these additional weapons should not be a

without showing the need for them. changes in conditions that would just arsenal and evaluation of alternatives andw use of the weapons will safeguard civil liberties. finally, sfpd does provide the make or model of its machine guns in its military equipment policy, though this is required by ab 481 and as noted before it is disclosed only 600 assault rifles. we believe the department should disclose all information required by ab 481. the board also has they to add types of equipment, even if they're not included, including what are called standard issue weapons which i would say when you 300 weapons that are considered standard issue, they're notdard issue. lbl eight discussion and possible action to approve revised order 5.03. investigative detentions for the department to use in meeting and conferring with the affected bargaining units as required by law. thank you. president

elias. commission commissners. 5.03 was posted, for the last commission meeting, and it was pulled from the meeting by president elias last week. since that time, the department has some recommended revisions, are in compliance with propo and, actually, if i could turn over to, commissioner benedicto because there are some additional, minor edits on department is submitting that, commissioner benedicto and i have discusseus i'll turn it over to him to read what the edits are. and i would ask for the commission's support on this dgo, including the eds about to hear. thank you very much chief, and thank you to president elias for providing us this time. i think that, theq joe that everyone has in front of them for 5.03 is both in compliance with prop e, as it was last week. butlly improved. i

think it's important as president elias noted with our presentation from to be cognizant of the additional workload that is being imposed when we're asking for things to be on bwc, and what we don't want is the opposite thing to happen, where we're creating more burdensempt to reduce them, which i think is something that's been very important. and we've here. so to my fellow commissioners, you'll see that the chiefs additional language is in the track changes primarily on page four in green et, chief scott and i discussed a few non-substantive changes to that green language, which i w read out. it's mostly just for consistency and changing a few things that are in the present tense, and cause some ambiguity into the past tense. so on page four of the red line under number two documenting deteions worn camera the changes are all to that b that begins with members must cite on the bwc and so i'll, i'll read the new language and members must cite on the bwc as manyactors as possible. and

focus the articulation on why a search was conducted. no changes there. members must state why they believed.change to believed the subject was armed. such a change from is to was and dangerous before a search was. that's changed to a was as well as of any information they relied upon, as oppo you rely on to conduct a pat search. members must be cautious about solely about relying s environmental factors, rather than the subject's conduct changes are also one for. for clarity purposes. and so with those and subject, any further questions from my fellow commissioners, i wo to approve revise department general order 5.03 for the department to use in meetingconferring with the effective bargaining units pursuant to our labor dash a second, i just wanted to highlight some really important again, and i think

i've addressed this, before, but i really want to highlight the fact that as we move towards body-worn cameras and rely more on body-worn cameras i think it's important the discussion of what that means in the department and more importantly, what that means to the are now creating a system where instead of being able to go and request a written police report, we're now forcing the newspapers, press, attorneys whatever, to request body worn camera footage and before body worn camera footage can be releasede. public, an actual physical member of the department has to review it and redact it law before they can release it. and according to tody worn camera footage unit, they get 4 to 5 requests a day. a day for body worn camera footage. and i anticipate that that will increase once we move towards making everything on body w

to 5 minutes to redact one minute of footage, and that doesn't seem imagine it. i mean and they gave me one example where 21 minutes of video took a member eight hours to redact. so i think we have to keep this in mind. i've raised this issue with the ci've raised the issue that although we have a contract in place that's going to provide ai services, there is still that physical human element that is needed to utilize these tools that are coming to the department. budget gap because i think this department needs more= funding to staff this department so that we can keep up, because there's currentllog in this department, rightly so. given the number of requests and the it takes just to get one, you know, one minute of footage released. so i think we have to be coge chief and i have had extensive discussions about this, and, he hasse issues that are going by this process as

we move things to body-worn cameras, is also going to be addressed. and with that, i am hesitant but willing to, to move. so president carterker, just a clarifying question. so last on last week'sches recorded on bwc or is that a incident report, and what what was the rationale for that change? yeah, the rationale for that change is the property specif by law, and a written report on a pat search outside of arrest, is so the same objective of those things that the officers were to write a written report, can bee bwc. and to our commissioners who took the lead on thisee with that interpretation. i

think that prop e is prescriptive in the way it directs us to reduce the requirements of record keeping and i think this and coupled with the fact that this dgo was one of the enumerated. dgos that were the prescribed us to look at that for record keeping, that this seemed like a change that, that was this change to be one mandated by property and a solution that is hopefully workable. and i think something i've shared with the chief that said is that, you know, some of this might be we'll have to look and see what impact this has on on the body worn camera unit, on their ability to turn around reports in a, because i also share present concerns, a an incident report is actually easier and not harder. but i think given the mandate of property and it's one of the enumerated ones, i'm supportive of this change. do you have questions? because i think you're just asking a question. and so i'll give you a real

answer. the real answer for me is, am i do i think pat searches to be in a written report? yes. is it the hill i think that given some of the language that must be articulated, are. are not as great as i thought they were. but to be clear, i think pat searches are very intrusive. it's a violation of your civil rights. it's an in your constitutional rights. and i think that it's extremely serious. i think we have a problem with pat searches in this department. the data tells us that peoplesearched at a more higher rate than non people of color. and more importante 50% mark when it comes to contraband because in order somebody, you have to have facts in order to and the facts you have to have have to or you have to articulate there's a crime or there's some contraband on you in order to search them. and the data6 a reports tells us that when we're searching people we're not finding stuff. so that tells you know, we're searching people and there's no basis, or we're not how to be on the lookout for certainearch. so those are my concerns. and i think

that wit the officer having to articulate certain things which are required, i think alleviates some of my concern, so that's you w to answer. there it is. that's helpful. and then. yea i i'll be honest, i don't see this change at all as being mandated by prop seems like this is chiefs personal preference. so i did want to do you take a different view about, you know, president elias, a lot of compelling reasons why it may actually be more cumbersome to record all of these. and on bwc in the long run, why do you disagree with that? that disagree with what that is more cumbersome. yeah. i mean, i take it that your be less cumbersome to use bwc versus an incident report when searches that that is my position. okay. but and president elias just a moment ago laid out some the idea that it actually could end up being more work in the long run if we, youake too many of these bwc reports. so just asking why why you disagree with that. this. well, i disagree because i don't believe that piece. and i'm asking why. yeah. yeah.

because an off recording what they're doing as they'rere doing it that's the extent of what they would have to do, as opposed to writing an incident report which usually requires them to go back to the station write a report, be out of the field. i mean, this whole t at least this part of proposition e was designed to free up officers administrative time so they can be in the does well not think this would accomplish that. so i don't see it asunderstand everything, president elias and i4s this, but i don't see that as being more cumbersors record, if there's an arrest they're going t have to write a report anyway. if there'sything that they did would be recorded on that body worn camera. it can be ewviovs a complaint investigation, the information is there. and benefits to it because to recollect what's happening right when it's happening, it's probably going to be more accurate in my, commissioner clay. so i just want to say i support, commissioner benedicto and the president of life or her

statement as it relates to this particular statute or this particular general order. the problem is there's no perfect order. it's not going to happen. we get that all the time. i opinion that she provided to the commission prior after that enactment property, and it's pretty clear that thedictates this is what we have to do. we may not like it. we're goingo have to test it and see what happens with it. but you know, this is the same argume southerners did when the civil rights voting act was passed. they went by every way is not right. and it got contested because they said well, they picked out and said oh, this is this this is this is what we have to do. this given a mandate. we'll do it. if it doesn't work, we're going to come back. but we got to move on. this is way too much time on1ó-% this because it's pretty clear in the city attorney's opinion of what has to be done.we're following it, and we don't may not like it. i wasn't here when all these things happened but you got to follow it and then let's see what happens. and so i'd like to move on and ask commissioner walker would like to second this, and i'd like to

us to take a vote. second sergeant second for any member of the public would like to make public comment regarding line item 85.03. please approach the podium. i represent juvenile justice. system for a long, long, long, long time. and i'll just toss in here for id. the hill bomb went down without chief scott. it was not and the last one. and not the last one. the one before that. that's why i was so screwed up. okay, no offense to your your your what they did there the purpose was one of the reporters on the scene asked the captain, stand there.'t know if it was your station guy, but, there's so many cops. i you going to do? and the captain said, we're going to make

today. we're going to make a lot of arrests today. so they my juvenile kids into the system as fast as before they saw a lawyer. i've said this bore, i'll say it again. you know, that wasusive. you're going to pay millions of dollars for that crap to begin with and all of that. bu did it for ids. i mean, get with the system. you don't need to raid a party to get id, when you've got claude. claude and he's a better brain than anybody in this room. and anybody in this city, you've got a problem. we. you had a meeting here on translators. you can't have translators. you can get a system for $20 a month. again, you have to pay for each of0vfice speaks every language in the world, you know, stop with a strong arm when you can get it that is the end of public comment on motion. commissioner walker i'm sorry, commissioner clay. how do you vote? yes commissioner clay

is. yes, commissioner. walker. yes, commissioner walker is. yes commissioner. be s. yes. commissioner yanez. yes, commissioner. i'm sorry. yes, commissioner4anez is. yes. commissioner. yee. yes. commissioner yee is. yes. vice president president carter whetstone is no. and president elias you have six yeses. line item nine discussion discussion and possible action to approve. revised department general order 5.05, emergency response and pursuit. driving for the department to use in meeti and conferring with the affected bargaining units as required by law. discussion and possible . all right, fellow commissioners, this is another e, general orders that was taken off calendar last week, after a whether the commission would request apprehension data, this reflects only that change. so if you look at the last page you'll see that it now requestseh data, and otherwise this is unchanged from week, you know, there was some discussion last week that the some of the most significant, and, you know, probably what the public knows

most about prop e. and so this was worked on very closely and carefully over the number of months to make sure that it complies with prop e's. prescription to increase the circumstances in pursuits can be undertaken a good idea that's the that's what it included. so this complies with that fully and also maintains, oversight, and accountability and tries to incorporate as many best practices as possible. so with that, i would like to make a motion to approve, the revised department general order 5.05 for use with meeting and conferring relations resolution 23, dash 32nd.i2 so, chief, last week, you the issue of including the. apprehension, data was an issue around. data collection and prop

e do you still have that issue? i mean, i now the version that we're voting on. yeah, i, i stillv0 t issue. yes. so i thought what was going to happen is the commission was going to vote on which version that or there would be a discussion on which version is that. can i ask the because this, this particular thing that we are actually voting on is a reflection of how prop e affects our current dgos this is implementing prop e does that edit include implementing prop e? is, good evening commissioners alicia cabrera with the city attorney's office, so i believe the question you're asking me is whether the green language, the number of pursuits that resulted in apprehension undered prop e. the answer is no. it's not required by prop e property specifically states the fields of information that's before you until that green portion. so

it asks for an annual report on the reason for the pursuits, the number of pursuits that resulted in a collision, the number of pursuits that resulted in a ur and a peace officer or member of the public, and the numbe were found to be within or outside of policy. prop e vehicle pursuits, reporting requirements includes a list of information that the provide, but the commission has authority under its policy ki information from the chief. and so that would be a direction to the chief of police. but it would not be because prop e requires it. and it's not required by law. so that i leave upsion? so the second on the floor sergeant, for any member of the public would like to make public comment regarding line item 9o5 .05. please approach the podium

but the way to make this the safest city in the world for pedestrians like me and for dogs and to put a speed bump at every goddamn francisco. every single one of them. you get a reputation around the world instantly drive slow in san francisco. and if somebody got killed at that corn bumps there. that is the end of public comment on the motion. commissioner clay, how do you vote? yes, commissioner clay is. yes, commissioner walker. no commissioner walker is no commissioner. benedicto. yes. commissioner benedicto is. yes. commissioner yanez. yes. commissioner yanez is. yes. commissioner yee. oh, no. commissioner yee is no. vice president carter. oberstar. yes. is. yes. and elias. president elias is. yes. you have five yeses. line item ten. public comment. and all matters pertaining to item 12 below closed session, including public comment on item 11. a vote whether to hold iqtem 12 in

closed session. if you would like to make a public comment regarding closed approach the podium. seeing none. line item 11. vote on whetheitem 12 in closed session. san francisco administrative code section 67.10 second. all right. on the motion, commissioner clay, how do you vote? commissioner clay is. yes commissioner. walker. benedicto. yes. commissioner benedicto is. ye yanez is yes. commissioner yee. yes. commissioner yee is yes. vice president carter overstone. yes. vice president carter is. yes. and president elias. yes. president lias is. yes. we are

se none on the motion. commissioner clay, how do you vote? yes, commissioner clay is. yes, commissioner walker. yes mr. walker is. yes. commissioner benedicta. yes. commissioner yanez is. yes. commissioner yi. yes commissioner yi is. yes. vdent carter is. yes. we have six yeses. line item 14. ad >> i went through a lot of struggles in my life and i am blessed to be part of this. i am familiar with what people are going through to relate and empathy

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