chief scott, it is my honor to present officer john norment of bayview station to be recognized by the police commission tonight. john has been a memberf he has been at bayview for almost 15ears his first three years at bayview, he was on the third street foot beat, where he was also the station's representative for three

separate neighborhood community groups. the next 12 years, john was on the public housing detail, where he was in charge of coordinating police community events, including turkey, backpack, toy and christmas tree giveaways. hertment at multipley events regarding new construction of public housing developments and represented the department in monthly meetings with the public housing development managers. he was in charge of the reading partners program, where offic lunteered to tutor bret harte elementary students who were hind in their reading skills. he was active in the wilderness program, where he droveorhood y, hiking, and rafting excursions. john has been a mentor and a friend to t bayview station. he has a great joy for his job, a great joy for hi family and it's with sadness that i have to say this, but jo■e is his career in the police department is coming to an end, so that's why i wanted to acknowledge him tonight. in september, john will be retiring

from thent in 2020. john was diagnosed with a severe, medical condition that i can'tame.e told me what it was and there's no way i could do it. but he me i was his lieutenant at the time and john had come to work sinhe every day he still has a happy, smiley guy, a mentor to the young officers, greatthe mmunity. he never he never complained about it. he never let them down. and it's just it's going to be tough to lose him at the station because he's gat influence on the officers and he's been if you look at ifng ff an ambassador for community policing, it's officer john norman. therefore, i'd like to present tyou officer john norman of bayview station. ease. come on, come on. up we want to allow youhe opportunity to speak if you want or you can choose not to. io thi completely beside myself for

this, but i'd like to thank my wife and mys o didn't get to see me for 17 years. so reunited ron. and also thank you for your support. this ieat ty and i'm going to miss it. thank you. well hold on, i'm going to give t chief an opportunity to speak real quick. and then i think some other commissioners have some things we'd like to share as well. thank you. president elias. norman, i've seen you a we've talked out in the field and everythingn connor said. i've seen with my own eyes just how you engageith people, i always friendly, always upbeat. at least when i've seen you. and i hear that's just your nature. thank you.been a long career for you. it's a lot of time that, asou said, you've spent away from your family. but you've done a lot, and you've touched a lot of people within the department and in the community. so again, thank you. and, we wl definitely miss what you brought to the city and what you've

brouto you work and to the family. thank you for sharing, john, with us. so thank you very much. thank you. sir. i wanted to first of all, i'mo happy you're representing bayview. that's my obviously home home districtso glad to see that. second question is, are ytiring or aret people do as they then end up working more work part time? a lit before i was, s here with theit i the city of walnut creek for 18 years. oh, wow. so ing this a long time. not all i started out in the police department as the custodian. oh, i put myself through, through college. and so, i don't know, sometimes i'm not sure if i went up or down, but anyway, it's,in. wow. what i want to says. and oe things that really sticks out to me, what the captain said abo

you is not only a good friend, but a mentor. and i think that that that's something that i think is rare nowadays, is finding a mentor that you can look up to. and not only that, but a mentor who takes you under their wing andeally guides you and shows you the steps, i have been fortunate enough av few amazing mentors in my life, and i can tell you that they make such an just who you are and how you handle yourself a how you conduct yourself, both personally and professionally. and the fact that you're beiec that skill set, i think, speaks volumes, because not many people, can do it. and the fact that you do it and do it, ap i want to commend you and thank you from someone who has great mentorship because it is a huge, tng. and i think that, again, it's oftentimes overlooked. i also wao only you for your service, but i want to thank your family because it's really them and all of their sacrifices that they have

endured for many years that allows you to be here today. the missed games, th single parenting, the missed holidays. you know, policing is not a5 joe family for allowing us tobe frod dedication while he is you. and thank you for your sacrifice because without your sacrifice, heere and being able to give everything he has to the city and the fellow officers, which i think really it resonates. and when we have good officers that mentor and teach other officers, especially young officers, it goes such long way. and that's how cultures change. that's how change inor s so important. so i'm really sad to seeou again. congratulations. and i hope that youhlenjoy retirement, actual retirement, not let me still work type of retirement and take some time and just have fun. so thank. that's awfully kind. commissioner benedicto. thank you very much,

president el congratulations again, officer, both on this recognition andn your long tenure. and congratulations on your retirementu what what the chief and what president ly said, i do want to acknowledge your family, you know, and we i mentioned this just last week that, youw,the or city. but the families are also in service to theity for what they give up to allow to allow you to serve the city. i know you have members of your family here if you would like. no welcome to introduce them. if take an opportunity, please wife, jenni, my son merrick, my son le, my daughter whitney and my mother in law, elizabeth. wonderful. thank you all. so much for coming. and congratulations to you. commissioner yanez oh, wait, there's more.re's you got. yeah, yeah, yeah. you may want to stand. thank you, president elias. and, thank you for your serviceity. thank you r

service to san francisco and specifically to theviewi know that, we talk about community policing a lot, but someone that takes the time to not only mentor, but tutor young people, you know, that's listic approach. policing isn't solely enforcing the law. policing people know and letting the community know that we wear many hats right. and that in order to be successful in life, you have to be abl what they call code switch, right? and sometimes if you could actuallyn young people, it demonstrates that you have that willingness, you have that humily. you for yi thank your family for letting us have his energy to keep our our streets safe. i hope you enjoy retirement. commissioner or commissioner clay. all right. thank you, madam president. so i'm the newbie, officer n i'm. d meeting. so last week, i got see the sort of protocol and see one of your colleagues also received this award. so what i

want to do is congratulations to you on your retirement. but ao thank you for your service to the community. what you do each and every day is very difficult. people don't realize that and you get up and you do it because this is something you do and this is something you believe in, and you do it at the best you can, each and every day. i had a gentleman who was on thiso who, if you're a sports fan or a football player, hisame was burl toler. he was on that great usf dons team, the uninvited, untied, and mr. toler, one of the things he said to him, myself and his son who were roommatesl, ilayed baseball, son played football, he says. do your best and your best will be good enough. and each and every day, based upon what i've heard, i know eacan yd everybody looked at you doing your best, and they got to see that. the idea that you had been a mentor to many, they got how you done things and they're going to they're going to you're going to leave, but they're going to remember that and they're going to say, you know what? you know, officer an, is is how he would do

it. and i learned from somebody who was the best because you are the best. you as a public servant each and every day, each and every one of you who serves in the public. i think you each you each deserve a trophy. everybodysn't get a trophy, but all you, everyone yourself and your department. these other departments ub you give your all each and every day for everyone. so yes, you do deserve a trophy each and every day. but you you are the mvp. you are the all star. and i want to thank you very much for your service and best wishes. okay. commissioner yee, thank you very much. there. president elias, i just you, officer john, for all your hard work, i know you put out 17 years in the housing. i guess the housing unit in the bayview hunters point. it's as, many of you guyg development. quite a few youth out tre, i have worked out there, too, myself and, to outreach tohe kids out there wilderness programs that you

successfully have. you know, tutor and me these kids. you probably change so many lives over there tha we want to thank you for that. all you have done keep so thanks again for your service, and we'll sou there when you're coming back part time. and thank the family for all your suppo, as i say, i want to give you guys another round of applause as the weekly recognition. i know you got the monthly. sohank you very much there. officer john norman, commissioner walker k ia. thank. congratulations i won't repeat, but i agree with everything that's been said, to say that there is a lot of opportunities for coming back and being the mentor, a good mentor you are on your hour, you kn your demand instead of, you know, taking away from th family. and it just speaks to

what everybody has mentioned, that you, th the mentoring aspect of passing along has worked so well with the community. engagement is really important, and there are a lot of opportunities now with t department and some more programs. so thank you and thank you and we'll miss you full time. but we'll see you part time. thank youerant. at this time, if any member of the public would like to make publomng line item one, please approach the podium. we have a public commen. i had to get up here. tanita rockmore thompson. i am the dequity and recruitment and senior trial attorney at the department ofilr to that, i was at the san franciscistrict attorney's office, and john norman was

actually o officer involved shog matter at trial that i had and was absolutely one of the best officers that i've ever worked with, is a mentor to these officers, because if i needed a cell phone number, he was going to give it to me. you know, they hateo gi their cell phone numbers to the da's were absolutely amazing. andh, thank, for supporting him. absolutely. i just had t up here and say that because it was always work with john. and he became basically ari and family throughout my years at the da's office. oh, thank you for sharing. miss thompson's a hard sell, so if you're getting her praise and the family can get ut police commission right after work hours, i know. yeah, go on up right. and there is no further public comment on

line two housekeeping items before we continue line item seven and line item 12 e and 12 f have been removed from tonight's agenda line. neral public comment. at this time, the public is now welcome toddress the commission for up to two minutes on items that do not appear on tonight'sgenda, but are within the subject matter jurisdiction of the police commission under police commission. rulesf order. during public comment, neither police or ppe personnel nor commissioners are required to respond to questions by the public, but may provide a brief response. alternatively, you may submitin either of the following ways. email the secretary of the police commission at at sfgov. org or written comments may be sent via us pubc safety building, located at 1245 third street, san francisco, california. 94158. if you would like to make public comment, please appac podium. hi folks, i'm h brown and i want to send john to paris. i want to

send some of our firefighters to rome, to and tokyo is a good place. i think we shoulde. here's another legacy item for you.ft my, very good, california san francisco. marijuana. ha hanscoe got a peace corps. it's worked fine for 60 years or something. let'swhera i think that one of the big problems the san francisco police and fire departments is that they're inbred. i mean, that's okay. i'm a hillbilly from the oz a but there's an extent to which you got to spread outnd bring in some different culture into your into your firehouses and into your stations. and we can do that by sending start with a couple dozene a year, nurses, firefighters, cops f sfighters,,

the san francisco plugs plugs anywhere in the world? the hook ups are differentou get a 10 or 12 people here for two years, they're going to know that system backwards. and after ten years, you'll have a thousand people coming from all over the world to assist us in an earthquake. and they will know our systems, they will know our stations, and they will have mellowed out. our. good evening. police commission chief scott and the executive director of police accountability. for the record, my name chris klein. last week i provided information on a statement that was very direct of some egregious conduct of a senior official within the city and countyisco. i turn that over to the fbi on july 11th. as each of will be making tough decisions in the

coming days related to that issue. ton, to focus on peace, unity and community. a few of you know that i'm the ceo of pavan. prejudice and violence ends now. weal a have offices in boston, dc, maryland, west virginia and pennsylvania and expanding elsewhere. we provide, as you know, complex investigative, investigative skill set as detailed in the issue at hand. last week. however, we also research on reducing prejudice, violence and bringing communities together. we do both for critical andal iight from the local community, first responders, and other civic and politicalde. e last few days, weeks and longer have brought great dividlly lod nationally, and it is time to bring our community togetherhatl intentions. no one should have to worbo voting and then worrying about getting assaulted just because they voted forhat they believed in. tonight i'm pledging to the police commission, police department, and the chief of police that i, along with my

nonprofit, willk alongside each of you, the city and county of san francisco, bringing a peaceful san francisco back at pavan. we believe in strong individuals f strongest communities. but not jusrity, tr community. the prejudice and immediately. thank you. good evening, commissioners. ng codef. my name is jay connor. b ortega and i'm co-president of iconic d3. i want to take this time to thank the men andsa francisco police department for the incredible work they do to keep us safe. i also want to welcome commissioner clay to the lin an mirror what he had stated at the last meeting. your job as commissis is not to interpret what you think. the

laws we pass mean. your job is to follow them as written. now, itly to warn you all that if you do notow sfpd to do their jobs, people like me explain to the ic that you all put criminals over community, which you do, and wet force you all to rewrite a we're currently doing now, if last week's meeting is any indication of what is to expect, this commission is going to go outside of the scope of prop e, and we will see. another ballot measure which will continue to limit this commission personally, i have no problem if we, the people, continue to pass ballot initiatives until thereof you all want the people of san francisco to believe thiscommsie our residents, then i expect you all to follow the l as it is written. thank you. and there's

no further public comment. line item three chief's rort discussion weekly crime trends and public safety concerns provide an overview of offenses in san francisco having an impact on public safety. commission discussion on unplanned events and activities. the chief describes will be limited to determining whether to calendar for future meeting. chief scott, thank you. good evening, president elias.idt cad executive director henderson in the public. starting this weeks crime trends, we are still at 32% reduction in total. part one crimes. that's a difference of about 9000 crimes fewer than this time last year. operty crimes is at 34% and violent crimes is at 11% below where we were this time last year. homicides, are down by 38. we

to date. we had 29 year to date this time last year. our homicide clearance rate year to date is 94, 13 incidents. 13 of those 18 homicides were firearm related. and in terms of gun related 29% from where they were.ms are this year, 121 comparedo 86 this year. i crimes, the property crimes are as i said last week, are really the reason that we have such a significant drop in overall crime. our larcenies are down significan, and our car break ins are down 55, year to de. so we have just over 5000 car break ins compared to over 11,000 or almost 11,000 this time last year. in termof significant events for the week, i talked ast wk just briefly, but it's in this week's reporting period. we had

aomicide that occurred on mission between 16tthis was on t 12:17 a.m. the victim succumbed to his injuries on the scene and was actually was transported. in stable condition. another victim was transported in stable sorry. so there were two victims at all. there was also multiple vehic scene that resulted in at least four vehicles being damaged in that vehicle collision. and we believe thatas of the shooting as well. that investigation is still ongoing with no arrests at this time. if anybody has any information, you can please call sf anonymous tip line at (415) 575-4444. in terms of shootings, there were four non-fatal shootings this week, resulting in four victims. the fi one was on july 8th at post in laguna, this was during a carjacking where a victim was shot by two subjects who produced a gun and shot one of

the victims. that r recovered, but the victim, i mean, the suspect is still ongoing on julythat 8th, there was 400 block of eddy street in the tenderloin. this happened at 3:46 a.m, when the subject entered the lobby of a residential buildi. the victim, who was the manager of the building, did not recognize the subject and refused to let him enter the subject, then shot the victim and ran away from tte ictim is listed in stable condition with that investigation is ongoing. no arrests at this time. t third shooting was on july 14th at 958 600 block of o'farrell tt 9:58 a.m. as i sd, the victim was walking in the area when he wask by bullet. no further information was obtained by the victim. nonlife threatening injues that is still under investigation. july 12th at 3:05 a.m. at larkin

and olive in the tenderloin. the victim was walkinghen he saw two subjects arguing. the victim heard gunshot his residence, and then later realized he had been shot. he had a gunshot wound. the victim was transported, was in stable condition, non-life threatening injuries, and that investigatioo arrests at this time. a uple of other significant incidents. this one is tragic. july 13th, which was this past saturday, tenderloinic geleman by the name of ellie. i'm sorry. this was the baby. the father of a three year old named ellieloreo. the father committed suicide in san francisco. we had received a request from fremont police departmenthat his three year old daughter was missing. the three year old's name was ellie lorenzo, andas

the search since the father was found here after he committed suicide. was later found in the city of san jose. deceased, very tragic situation. as far as the suicide, there was no foul plays suspected at this te. and fremont is in san jose are both handling their respective investigations, the san francisco connection was the father committed suicide in san francisc, the last thing, there were a couple of atm robberies. these were on the 13th of july. there t calls regarding theft of an atm machine, both inside retail 400 block of o'farrell at 4:45 a.m, the oth he 800 block of o'farrell. just minutes later in both incidents, the subjects gained ace store and attempted to steal atm machines. e ent, the machine had been moved, but by the time officers got there the sused ans still on the premises. w do have some follow up, to conduct on this. no suspects in cus thie

investigation is ongoing. there's a fatal traffic collision on july 11th at 12:41 a.m. a pedestrian was hit by a vehicle at the area of geneva. and delano avenue in the ingleside police district. the pedestrian, unfortunately, was pronounced deceased at the scene remained at the scene. this investigation is ongoing and, the last incident of significance to report there that ended up in an accident orw traffic collision, on market street. this was, actually not the case. our investigation revealed that it was actually a single vehicle that was doing donuts in the street. driver apparently lostnd drove into the building. so the report thatas result of the sideshow, was actually not to be case, video evidence corroborates what we found to be a single vehicle

involved in this in this particular incident. so that investigation is still ongoing. but i just want to report that that was not as a result of the sideshow in termsour sideshow or stunt driving events. there has been a decrease in the a those events reported this year to the police. there was approximately 40. we're not approximately exactly 45 incidents for all of last year,s year there has been 22. so we're seeing, the rate of these, these events are actually a little bit less than this time last year. so we will keep themissn posted on that. we have impounded some cars, not a whole lot, bu impour the fact. and that strategy and that tactic will conti is repo. so. for members of the public

that have any public comment regarding line item three, the f'lease approach the podium. hi i'm h brown again and i don't speak for ressives, but have you seen that progressive kerfuffle going on over there? over you guyse dy clinton, aaron is going ad and, asserting authority, chief, you have to do that every now and then yourself, i guess. butardon't have anything against cops making money. i w telng some cops in the corner there i was a firefighter. i'd give a million buckse t anybody who can make 30 years here. and you don't have to stay another five years. and you know what? there's enough money in this damn city to coverth it. the trillion left over. if, if we had some kind of an evening out of wealth, a transfer of wealth from the trillionaires and billionaires who own it, we

wouldn't have anyons on your drp victory. what else i got there? the kerfuffle. oh, yeah. the if people. i ran into two ambassadors down on the street walking, on, where the hell i live? valencia today and that's the first time in nine years i've seen anybody on foot. and i stopped and i said, what the hell are you doing down here on foot? i thought you guyser the . no, we're stretching around. but you know, therop program is going to take away from the ambassador program. it's also going to take away from kids, lunches and bullshit like that. i mean, i love drop, but let's drop. drop for now. thank you. sergeant, do i turn and look? no, i got it. tgog to swiftly. s

paul allen. i would belabor this chart that i've already provid h noting that i we now have a general, inverse correlation between, overde on the one hand and arrests o dealers and users on the other. and that's evident from for periods of time. one, this period around the time of summit, in the lead up to that, secondly, the four month period from january through april, when, arrests went up significantly and deaths went down, then y have the may period of time when arrests plummeted and deaths increased, and then youth most recent month where the reverse occurred. as i pointed out memo, obviously, correlation is not causation.

number o. number two, this could be random data. as i suggested in my memo, i think the police commission has a, perhaps notn ligation, but it has an opportunity to obtain additional information from the department of public health as to what other variables might influence this behavior. i noted that professor humphreys at stanford, speculated evenye an , well, perhaps this was because those who are consuming fentanyl now,d of serious users and therefore haven't stumbled into it, and thatou be an explanation. but of course, we don't know. that's speculation as as anything i did. look on site see any data with respect to at least that i could determine, with respect to interventions, the numb interventions, for example, by month, successful or

otherwise. and indeed, there is obviously other variables that would be useful. againth it's an opportunity for the commission, which i know you don't have, to request this data from the department of public health so thatree a general, generally a better. thank you. your two minutes is up. thank you. and there's no further public comment. line item for dpa director's report discussion report on recent activities and announcen limited to determining whether to counter any of t issues raised for future commission meeting. executive director henderson thank you, as i think i mentioned this before, but we've been putting a lot of effort into clearing up our case backlogs, thateport day, that i typically report on eve , is now down to, last week,

i reported it was down to one. and i just learned that our closure rate is now down to zero. so we now have zero cases that are not tolli for the record, that is the lowest that it has ever been in the history of the agency. it's a very big deal, again, i want to thank our investigators for all of their hard work and prioritizing and closing cases, because it's a combination of both of those things that are being done at the same time.hagot us to this point, really proud of that. and those numbers in terms of, our continuing effort to clear out our the backlog of cases, including the ones that are here with the commission our offi is presenting four of those cases in closed session tonight resolved. that's a big deal because that represents one third cases that we have that have been pending, that we normally report

on every week in terms of the backlog that we have. so that's a big deal, we met this week, with the internal affairs division to brainstorm how to effectively improve both of our efficiencies in terms of our ongoing and our reporting. i think that was a productive meeting, i forward to continuing these conversations over the next few monthhi■@ of t we've ever come together collaboratively to do exactly. e things that we mentioned befor use just got that big report from iad that i thought was verylluminating in terms of comparing apples to apples for the work that getswith the dpa. and i still have an ongoing suggestion that i'm going iad. i think i mentioned this to the chief, and iit in the meeting to do a similar sort of openness report. so it's more than just the beginning measurement. we have an exit information summary of the kind

of cases that got sustained. in addition to the information that's aeing provided to the commission. so i'll keep you d time to dohat project. i think something like that. while dpa has, summer fellows that doing some of this work any hel, interns are also working with internal affairs, so that might be one of the ways without creating new work, we may be able to address that, we've been having a lot in terms of internal, issues. we've had a lot of workload, and balances andh unexpected leaves. a lot of the results oftas given us some of the results or many of the results that i just talked about. and managing our backlogs, but we've been meeting with, our staff and with the unions to address, those changes that have happened in the past.

we've introduc new org chart, and we just had another all hands meetingnow continue meeting with both my staff and the unions to make sure that well on the same page about the work that place. and wend i think we're will continue moving forward to addresotrepoing obligations and our ongoing charter and mission statements within the agency that's internally. externally, we have we are working with san diego county, reached out to us, the city and county, that wants to build their practice of b sheriff accountability on the models that we're usin specifically at dpa and replicating the legislation that produced both the jurisdiction and the staffing at dpa to try and replicate somof measures there. and we'll continue working with them, and i'll give you updat

process continues. as well. in terms of monitoring the our numbers, our investigative u has opened up nine cases since our last meeting and closed 28 cases since our last commission meeting, so we are continuing to exceed ours, wh our cases, our audit field testy the end of this month. and after our hold an exit conference with sfpd and prepare a draft response that will be presented to this commission, also this week, our policy unit met with the pol matter expert on dgo 6.13. that's o hate crimes. dgo to discuss goals for the updatee ce presenting those recommendations to the departmne week. for this evening. we earlier, four s

and closed sessiononight, and we will address those when they come up, also present in the courtroom or in the hearing room tonight is our senior investigator, brant bagian, our trial attorney, tanita thompson. policy director jermaine jones. and y know, i'm so terrible with the names. it's a lot, and it's terrible. and also, our head. oh heaof legal team, deanna rosenstein. i'm badh we'. overstone, thank you, director henderson, for the rt, ju

one question, which is wondering if you had a sense, time wise, of when the publicdpa'igaudit o, and then second piece is, i think previously you'd represented that, executive director mcguire had given dpa all of the data it requested, but wanted to ask if that was still the case, we have i have the stop data, audit on my desk as we speak. it was just given to ming edits now, so very sooni may actually have it here because i'm supposed to be reviewing.evwing it, i don't have a specific date, but very soon, i think the draft already finished, and the information either the information that was given to ull be reflected in the audit and the information that was not given to usl be

reflected in the audit. with a drill down outline of the detail for what we were authorized to receive, whate did receive and what we didn't receive. that question will be answered directly and specifically. i know that's one of the questions answered in this audit, as well as recommendations about shared information. there will be no ambiguity in it. i don't know if that answers the question, but. for members of the public who would like to make public comment regarding line item four, please approach the podium.irector henderson's a great guy and he's got a tough job there i can look back in the back where, the cops were, befo you, they felt free to burglarize the acc and try to run down the chief attorney. and tyne of then

assaulted baronetcy and, easy. gave the report to the chief andai so she came back, i think i told the story, but being old,es, and she came back and saw a couple of weeks said, what do you want me to do with this, chief? what would you do if, one one of these cops back here assaulted, one of your commissioners and they gave they personally gave you a piece of paper on it. would you act on? t violates the rule, sergeant. i'm sorry. the, anyway, i like, paul henderson very much. and, you know, he could be president, because willie picked kamal over him to go in to be the da and so. and i ran, i run for the ideas. in 2007, kamala was running unopposed for da and went on. and there's aór good chance that biden might resign this weekendd

a president that we can say, i knew her when, you know, but it could have been you, paul henderson. but but but i'm but i'm going to back this ballot measure. i'm going to back this ballot measure. and the f elected police chief, because i think they should both be on the ballot. d you've done a great job, paul, because you came into a hellhole. all thery thank you sergeant. our line item five commission reports, discussion and possiactioncommission reports will be limited to a brief description of activities and announcements. commission discusl limited to determining whether to counter any of the issues raiseds report commissioners reports and commission announcements for a consideration at a future commission meeting. commissioner walk, thank you. i wanted to mention a couple of things. just updates. i knowhahe chief and i have talked with

folks about the patrol speals. that's going to be coming up after our, our august■ off. but also, i, checked in by the women's committee, who are working within the depart to really make sure the department fulfills the 30 by 30 commitment of hiring 30% of officers by 2030. and i know that, diana diussing how many women in theme department have gotten together to bet of the conversation about really making recommendations to the crely che sure commit, that we actually implement and out and succeed in our 30 by 30. so i'm really looking forward to te

update from the 18th meeting department, on the 30 by 30 and the efforts made. it's very there's a lot to do. obviously, there's, a lot we've already been wki on over the, over the past few years, t s so much more to do. and i really look forward and i know the commission is t an update for department moving forward. and tf, for really prioritizing this. you know, it's really an important is thank you, commissioner.ou, r my update. just a quick update, what? go ahead. what i forgot to g on this and i've beenthat put on the, on theince i've commission are also, commander jones, tonight? commander moran and captain alexa o'brien. those are the

leadership who are reallypu. t s dozens of women who are in the department who really, are really interested in the discussions about policy and moving forward. so thank you. great. we encourage policy writers and policy peopl so that's right. we're doing it, so i wanted to give an update. i was able to meet with, the bwc unit i want to thank. first, iwe i reached out and wanted to meet with the bwcto bter understand how body worn cameras logistically will be operating. once we implement all of these dgos and the chiefs staff were able to accommodate a meeting with myself and commissioner benedicto to walk us through the body worn camera unit. the procedures, policies and sort of the accomplishments and challenges that this unit, has. to thank ae

ou to sergeant michael young from the bwc unit, as well as i think it was karen lu or lu. yes who took the time to walk us through, the intricate detail of what it really takes, when body worn camera footagere review it, redact it, and the amountf just intense detail that it takes, which wasd theypi of ten, they are only operating with eight. and the amount of work that they do and are able to generate is just really, really impressive. so i want to thank them immensely for taking the time ouof schedule to walk me through it and give and answer questions that i wane director of the. it unit, as well, who took ■the time to

explain to me some of the, the contract and new additions that the body as the department woule having. and so it was very intereinee, and i think that, in the upcoming months, we will definitely be agendizing that because ink it's important for the public to know what really goes into, body worn cameras and wt that unit does, and sort of the heavy task that it body worn camera footage, because it seems thatecti is going to be that the body worn camera footage, it, or worn cameras are going to be utilized much more moving forward. and so we really need to make sure that the public is aware of how that process works, what that looks like, and sort of some of the, hindrances that it's going to have on the department as we make this transition. so i wantedse shout out to the chief, also the, the atnded the meeting, commissioner benedicto, i can't wait. thank you, president

elias, just a few things, for my reports. i, as our fellow commissioners know, last week we passed a number of theth are, implemented as part of prop e, and today we havme remainder we put on, i want to again, thank my fellow commissionerse bilift to get these dgos to where they're atnd he that we can, get those get those through this eveningresee specific comments on those for thank acknowledge, i also want commissioner yanez, i've had the privilege with commissioner yanez on several of the dgos that affect the rights e are 7.01 which hope to have before us soon, and 7.04, which was on the agenda but pulled in part because of some concerns that commiser yanez had heard from community groups. so we're to rework that, commissionery to yanez has long and established community, to these communities in particular in

this area of juvenile advocacy. and i really want to thank commissionan f his his leadership on this. and, both, tj 7.04 an significantly improved thanks to the input that isyane as well ae brought to the table, have provid that concludes my report. thank you, commissioner yanez. thank you, president eliason. thank you, comio benedicto, i think you know, it takes takes a village, they say. right. and we definitely need as many voices ander to improve, san francisco safety for all young people and whatever age they identify as, my report will b brief. i do want to publicly. because the reason why you know, the voters created this commission, the reason why we're here is because we are about transparency, accountability. i'moi myself aci miss an email, i've been in mfad

away may 13th. jesus. yanez. vasquez, and reason why i'm here. you know, he wasganir, back in the 70s. and then organizers in mexico were murdered in those days. so, you know, i have a history speaking truth to power. and this is the reason i'm here. and i'm going to h myself accountable. if i owe anyone an email, it will be returned,thbea little longer than i expected. but i rolled my sev back at wort to give an update around the language. 052. oh, i know that the g are going to begin. thank you, to your staff chief, for being very communicative about the process. and i have out to, networks and groups in the community. san francisco language access network is actively engaged and wants to participate and will be contributing their feedback, so i'm really grateful to this

commission and yourself, chief, and your staff for prioritizing this as one of these, one of the outcomes of prop e for us to have as much community input so that the members of this community that do not understanding or the proficiency in english to betacrvices for tn and interpretation, if ever they need those, the other update i have is an■l i thank you, commissioner benedicto, for putting 701 back on the radar, because it is one of those that has received, points of, feedback. and throughout the cour of over two years now, i think we have mad progress, there were some challenges, some obstacles. manl haven't resolved all the obstacles, but i thinkclos to ae both the advocates and the community g people are going to benefit from the product that is going t come

out out of 701. so i am happy. agendizing that in the near future, for completion and and o make sure that we dat over a yed have a presentation about intention of this body and this department to initiate ance beds been adopted by los ans, by oakland and other jurisdictions across the nation, which is to establish a pre-booking diversion program that would give young people the benefit of programing in lieu of suspended charges or charges being held in abeyance if and when they complete successfully. these programs that are evid the rease been adamant about the implementation or the creation of this program is because of my

history of 30 years working with young people, adolescence, and the fact that complete faith in both our providers, our communan to understand that young people deserve toe ereny. adolescent development goes intoirand st bs that once you're 18, you're supposed to understandight from wrong. and every law does not necessarily mean that every individual out there really gras these things. right, so i hope that we can i had requested that presentation to kind of coincide with the year anniversary of when we had a joint presentation with commis, who endorses this programre ware have not necessarily launched, as i had hoped we had or would have hoped. we haven , the program. and so i asked one of our community partners for ad since i've engaged in this

conversation, we looked at numbersm january 22nd through a year to date, july 2nd of 24.n at period there have been a total of 370 wit community calls unduplicated referrals. so new young people referred into the juvenile justice system, and we there has been plenty of evidence, plenty of studiesonr and any contact with the juvenile justice■ú stem, leads fuher involvement in theon and criminal justice system for young people. there have been 370 people who have entered the system who potentially could have been, involin program to divert them from formal involvement in the system. now, i don't know, out of those 370, how many of them would have been eligible? i'mine

probation department to obtain that information, but i justwa t people who may not ever have had to have formal involvement with e that are unfortunately involved in the system in some way, shape or form. and so i think it really compels us, and, and i pressures tell a story and that we can fast track, the process that we get, get to the point where we can actually implement and begin to offer an evidence based program that has demonstrated demonstrated it can redirect young pe i programing and into spaces where they canaddrsh substance abuse needs or whatever con may have that are g them to contact with the system. so i hope we can agendize that, we, i can have everybody come ct

this in september. thank you. okay. vice president carter, well, first and foremost, just wanted to publicly wish commissioner yanez and hismily s father's passing and, you know, thank youy biographical facts about your dadnd h legacy that you're carrying forward in many ways, including the impnt that you do on this commission, and thank you for continuing to serve the public d very difficult time, just wanted to acknowledge that it's my understanding that today ith joe effective.icy to de-emphasize, traffic stops that have no public safety benefit, just wanted to acknowledge that you know, dozens of jurisdictionsoss e country have implemented some version of this policy. it's been an unmitigated success

attempted. and that data has been collected on it. and i'm heartened that the people of san francisco will be able to share in the benefits that mill o have last few years. i wanief scott e policy, and i want to thank every sgle commissioner up here who was a commissioner at the time that the polic was being enacted, who all voted for the policy at one point or another and wanted to thank all the members of the community, from as the ideological spectrum, who came out and supported this poly. thank you. thank you, commissioner clay. yeah commissioner yanez, as relates to the group, group getting ge it relates to the restorative justice type of thing, the guidance for the issues of diversion, what you're going to need to do is get the courts involved. also, as a matter of law, they have ed so t

someone from the courts has been contacted, along wite as well ae juvenile justice commission, with the police department, so they can do thatethe because they have to they can't just release without if the court that once you do that, you can't do that as a matter of law. so get them. i hope someone's got tvolv also because that's important to get them there. okay. the juvenile justice commission came and did an amazing presentation for us and showed they work with the court. juvenile courts, and, so i think tha w be good to have them back in september to give an update to commissioner clay, since he's new. and i think his experience obviously would be beneficial in this process. it'll be our september surprise. great thank you, sergeant, for any member of the public would like to make public comment regarding line item five commission reports. please approach the podium. favorite hi i'm h

brown again. i just want to give an attaboy to this commission. i mean, you guys have been through, more shit than anybody since theood a couple of years ago and all that, dump them, go after them, attack them, blah, blah, blah. side and side, my question to all of you, what are you going to do with mayor peskin? i mean, you think th hit the fan now? it's going to be very interesting a p here, a really fantastic group, and they're friendlier accessible than any, commission that i've seen up here in watching you for 30 years. and hang in there and thank youo foe aboard, commissioner clay. you are ch addition. thank you.od ening everyone. my name is joe cirillo. i'm a local

social worker and skateboarder, so forgive me if the dolores hill bomb topic weady mentioned earlier in the meeting. i just want to continue the topic of reaching out to youthn the city, actually, as well as unwarranted stops oe bey impacts youth who are skating so briefly. if c it was about a year ago that 113 people were arrestedthe dolores hill bomb, which is skaters going down dolores street. most were yout, so i just wanted to recommend further discussion about sfpd's community outreach and collaboration with other departments, specifically mta and the recent hill bomb at dolores park. last july 6th, a little over ten days ago, was an example of sfpd. unfortunately, prioring heavy handed, fear based approach, and it involved excessive overtime as well as what appeared to be violns laws and transportation codes, if this is working, can anyone guide me on

how to get a few photos? all right. thank you. youth was on d again, thank you for letting it to continue on church street. butt a gistical thing. you can seeouto fall, thw potholes there. there's train tracks, luckily, people were able continue, church street without being arrested, but this s of, you know, how many officers were there on dolores street and the event just ending up one street over, and it actually ended up on a moreus street, where people were more likely to fall. so jusco further discussion about decriminalizing what happens on dolores street r factors with ada laws and how theublic is perceiving the use there's definitely potential for more community outreach. and people can be on the same page. but, let's see if the youth can

be invited in that as well in e future. thank you i the end of public comment line item six presentationnd on the w enforcement equipment annual policy, annual report 2023 discussion and possible action. good evening. my name is aja steeves and i■.7 am the managerf the policy development division. and i'm here to present on our annual report relating to, ab 4081, which is the military equipment, assembly bill. thank you. so ab 41 went effect in september 2021. it codified a

nment code, section 770 through 7075. and it requires law enforcement agencies in california to obtain approval from the applicable governingn oucase, it's the board of supervisors, it requires the approval of a law enforcement use of equipment policy by ordinancersactually rw enforcement agency to get an approved use policy f everything that they had within their inventory and everything d before. january 1st, 2022. so ab 41 firi of the certain types of law enforcement equipment. again, it requires all of these l enforcement agencies to seek approval of the use of that equipment, and that approval must be done by way of ordinance, our use policy ordinance was signed byhe decemd the ordinance effective date was mandate an annual review, whato initially, and also annual

review by the board. and the board just reviews our compliance with the use policy that was approvedye. next slide. thank you. so this is just a review of the approval process itself of the use policy, we had a of public hearings last year between the date of submission in may 2022 and the final approval in december 2020. excuse me, 2022. were about 11 public hearings the department captured over 43 policy recommendations through the hearing process. you can findhoio on our website. there is a tab specificallyfor e law enforcement use policy, and it captures. there's on our website that has all of the documentation that was gathered during these hearings. so if you want to look for those 43 recommendations and our re available on our website. and then we presented to this body last br go over the use policy as it was approved. next slide, this is the this slide

just goes over the ab 41 inventory cate these again are the items that were acquired by the department before january 1st, 2022. unmanned remotely piloted powered ground vehicles, armored personne carriers, wheeled vehicles that have a breaching or entry appusmmand and controls breaching apparatuses that areig grenades and pepper balls, excludingice issued handheld pepper spray. long range acoustic device. elrod specialized firearms less than 50 caliber, with theard issue service weapons, so this does exclude the rifles that are assigned to patrol projectile launch platforms and their associated munitions. next slid. so here's a list of the report requirements that actually landed in the annual report. it's a summary of how the covered equipment was used and the purpose of use, a conserved receipt, excuse me, concerns received about that relts of any internal audits

or info about violations ofy. tl uipment, including training,f maintenance, storage, upgrades and also theourcof funds. so we would let you know if it was operational funds that was paying for it, grant funding, etc. next slide please, the annual report also includes the quantity possessed for each type of equipment and also notifies sf intends to acquire additional equipment subject to the provisions of ab 41 and the next year and the quantity sought. the department also opted to include information about whether injuries were durh type of equipment. next slide. thankre we here? the inaugural annual report was publicly posted on the website receive an extension from the board and their deadline that theyn us was june 15th. so within 30 days publicly

releasing the annual report, sfpd is required to havetblic mh the police commission where the general public can ask questions regarding thnd, acquisition or use of equipment listed in the report. the board of supervisors shall determine, based on review of the annual report, whether each type of equipment listed in the use policy complied with the standards of. excuse me, government code 7071 d and that essentially just means did we comply with the authorized uses in the use policy that was approved by the board, if the board derm that sfpd has not complied with the g standare policy, they may vote to disapprove a renewed require modifications to the use policy. and theepartment is also considering holding an additional public meeting through the captain's town havee specifically scheduled, but we are aiming for mission station l scheduled for august, so we mays this policy there. s an overviel

report itself. i am joined by deputy chief raj vaswani, who oversees the special ops bureau and the special ops bureaacallyy of this equipment. so he's here that i am unable to, but happy to take any questions so we can start the discuson. question. so procedurally, y bring this here and the public can asktiona vote to do what? to sendard of y understanding is this is just for discun members of the public to ask questions and this body to ask questions. ection is taken with the board of supervisors. so on pagy that there were 11 public arwhat do you mean by public hearings? sure. so, our use policy was submitted to the board and then it was sent to committee, the rules committee. so there are several hearings at the rules. and then several at full board. okay. sonñ you

say public hearings, you mean in front of the board of supervisors. so how ma not boarf supervisors, not, any legislative body, not the department, not with the police commission. community based meetings have been held regarding this. now, the meetings were at the board and the rules. we don't believe wess for that. so the community meeting because if it's innt the community can engage with you. they're only limited to a two minuteliust like here at the police commission, when we have this before the police commiunfounately, all thn happen is the community can come up and give their opinion in two minutes.m ju want to make sure we're clear and i want to understand. so there have beo meetings regarding this issue that have taken place thus far. yes. no? no. there were no community meetings. but to address that de hearings and captured those 43 recoda public comments that came in, and we wanted to ensure that we were responsive. and they

pact the use policy itself. but i think the way the ordinance is written, it says commun and involvement. and as we are starting to look at policing different, especially with prop e and prop e's, huge push to have community involvement and have meetings in each district station, it seems that this would be counter tonot also engt type of intention of having community involvement in this process. so i wouldn't feel foard until there's community involvement and the opportunity for the community to givtheir opinion more face to face with you and directly, rather than in a two minute conversation, a two minute public, you know, public comment type of setting. understood. well, the use policy has been approved, but withnu re want to do more of the district station meet toal rort. so i tht should probably be done. and maybe we bring this back in show this commission what efforts the department has made to engage community. and like district stations is a good start. but i still think that, you know,

i've, i've received several emails about this issue. and the outcry has beenre'seen no awareness to the community or community involvement or opportunity to raise their concerns. so i think thato be addressed before we move forward or say that we've because i mean, when you look at these slides, it looks like you've had community engagement. and i just don't think that that's completely accurate. so, y,president carter overstone, thank you, presidentasi guess i'll just pick up where president elias left off, so government code section 7072 b says that there needs to be within of sting the report at least one well publicized and conveniently located community engagement meeting at which the generalcuss pund ask questions regarding the annual military equipment report. so

the law seems to ree meeting in which, as it says, there can be a freeorm discussion, two minute public comment, you kno like this, where there's two minute public comment doesn't seem to meet the requirements of law. so i think that that has to happen before the board votes on it. but do you have a different view on what state law requires? no, notesthe authorized use policy, when you actually look at the policy itself, it does name that first meeting to happen at the police commission. so not the law, but the policy that wa approved by the board that was approved by way of ordinance, does name the police commission as the first stop. understood understood. but but the state law control, right. the local ordinance can't amend state law. right of course. in your presentation, on that point, too,he, this is that that the board granted an extension to file the report. is that right? because i think i

saw on on the report online that the last authorization 22. is tf the ordinance of the of the use policies, the yes, the use policy itself was approved in december of 2022. and so state law requires reauthorization every year. correct? right. okay so normally that that should mean december or january of this year.úxv but but here we are sen months later. so you're sayin we're seven months late because the board authorized it. no the reauthorization of t use policy is based on the review of the annualep, the annual report, the inaugural annual report was the thing that we asked for, the extension for. and the board said we could submit it no later than june 15th. so then they still haven't held their hearing toannual repe whether it can be renewed or not. but under state law, the one year clock started running at the end of december the board last approved the

effective date of the actual policy was january of 2023. so you so the clock started running in january.orre. and so under state law, january of this year is when you should be back before the board. is that right? when we should ideally submit the inauguraleport. okay publicly? well, not ideally right. because the because state law doesn't say ideally right. it gives a fixed one yearpubllye report. so we're out of compliance with state law in that respect. as well. correct i would say we did notub we did not publicly post the report in january of 2020take to ask about assault rifles, i think in the report there was this most recentneubmitted. there's 300 some odd assault rifles. just wanted to ask about that. given that, the department's representation on its invry rifles has changed quite a bit in the in various filings with the

board the last time around, i think thereas at one time reported that there were none. other times reported that there 687. now we have a bit over 300. could just explain why those representations have changed so substal initially, i believe the way it is defined in 1 is whether it is, it removes what is it, standard issued rifles. so we removed the standard issued rifles that are for patrol and only reported the rifles for sp. so that's the number that we ended up with in the ac use policy. so that's is 300 number doesn't include standard issue. and do you know or do any of our friends here the number would be if you included standard issue assault rifles? i don't let me turn my micrry. ont

very easily. i don't know, off top of mhe thank you. and then i think i also saw in, when you report the use of an assault rifle, you do report when it was just pointed. it not necessarily fired. is that fair? yes. okay just wanted to confirm that, so, last. yeah. last major questions were used 35imesquote during the service of high risk search warrantsn 2023. i just wanted to ask if e working definition in the department of what constitutes high risk such that it would justify the flashbangs. so generally, every search warrant op order is evaluated and if it, it can

occur by a specialized unit, not the tactical company. usually when it comes to tactical company,t it is a high risk. it usually means that the person either has access to a weapon. a weapon was used in a crime of violet could be the terrain of where the objective is, there could be other high risk people at the address,ld escalate it. there is a standardized matrix that look at to see, if it comes to company ando there's a matrix. so is that somewhere, you know, memorialized in writing and in, in a dep or manual or. yes, it is. and procedure to just evaluate, search warrants of premises. andd the matrix has, i take it a number of differentac and after you tick off enough of them, the search qualifiess high risk. it does. and there's a

discussion. there's a discussion between the unit originating the order and tactical cpacapabilit, does the matrix require, you know, in addition to the risk factors the warrant, does it require does it require consideration of, the effects that flashbangs might have on, on, you k, innocent individuals that that might live at the residence being searched, such as children or elderly people. they do evaluate, who's at the premise? they they take a lo of different factors into consideration, and the newer flash bang technology doesn't. it's self-contained. it doesn't ignite. it's notlammle. it's contained in a in a container. okay.it like the older technology was, flammable in the sense of like, it could temeingt

these are safer. okay. but and just to, just so i understand it flashbangs might have on, you know, say children or the elderlywritten into the matrix r you're saying this is something that is more i the swat commands school, they would they're the swat team ially trained in taking all kinds of things into , including other people within a premise. but i guess w tactics would change, right? i appreciate i appreciate y to thm asking just something slightly different, which is, isitinin tr not? there. there is i matrix, s children present, etc. so including animals, we look at if

we need tof you know things such as that. okay. understood. thank you to e president carter stone's questioning who authed t extension. i was told that the board i don't know if it was by resolution or by communication via email. i was told we had an extension that went through june 15th and. good afternoon ■-,e going to excuse me, commissioners, i have a little bit of a raspy voice today. i'm losingu, doctor, for appearing. thank you. my name is dianachwn recenm the director of policy andic aft clarify that we did submit a letter of request for an extension to the board clerk and a request that was based on an inquiry that came from

supervisorea request, after further dialog, wasg what miss steeves just mentioned, in terms of thee we're expected to submit the updated report and then, miss steeves, you said that the first the requirement was that a first police commission and then the report goes, did i get that lineage correct? if it's within 30 days of publicly posting the report, then we have the meeting with the police commission. we can continue tohr that. and then the board will have the hearing. okay and then the other quick question, i'm going to turn over to my felis f the annual report. number two, it says a summary of complaints or concerns received concerning the equipment. and you indicate noomplaints or concerns were received by the department regarding this equipment, which is odd to me because i've been my email box has been flooded with ccerns and complaints. so where should the public send these concerns

and complaintseg policy, they're in the policy, i believe in the initial pol an ee have the sfpd chief's email addressste policy requesting any inquiries to come in that way, but it is the way it is worded, it sounds like we need a complaint about the specific equipment, not necessarily the incident. maybe there's complaints abo a incident, where, let's say the bearcat was this is aut a complaint about the bearcat specifically. and so we haven't received any complaints about that specific tool. okay so why don't you provide the email address so we can to the commission secretary. and weposn the commission website. and then i'm going too re agendize this with an update in terms of you complying with the state law and comty commissioner benedicto, thank you very much. president elias, a lot of the questions you and t carter, so i won't repeat

questions on thosent estion i had was that in the annual report on page ten, equipment not include an annual report. the report notes that unmanned remotely piloted air vehicles were not included as the department did not acquire or maintain these items, what is your you know, since prop e now passed and which explicitlyed td aerial vehicles, for pursuits, has the department taken steps to acquire unmanned aerial itunderstanding of where that would fall in future reports, under this ordinance? sure. so just a reminder, this is the annual report that correlates tse policy of everything we had prior to january 1st, 2022. so our understanding w have submitted, there is legislation at the boardroced for a uav use policy, ab 41 use policy. once it is approv it will require an annual report. so we will come back hibo. we'll report. we'll then do community

meetings. so same same rte. but this again is just attached to the annual excuse me, the use policy for everything we had before 2022. okay. so itouing tw under this government code, 7072 would still ap to, to any unmanned aerial vehicles the department purchased. that is understanding. okay. and so there would be a use policy that have to be approved by the board that isn't yet approved. of prop e, since the state law would still apply. correct? correct. okay, i know we've talked a little bit when it comes to vehicle pursuits at this commitar chase and similar gps launcher technology. would that fall underf thenumerated categories of government code 7072? thank you for the queson. no, but it does fall under sf admin code 19 b as a surveillance tool. and where we are currently presenting our authorized use and impactrt. ayy

helpful. thank you. i'll also agreentlias said. based on my reading of 7072, i don't think8m there's ay vote that's required since you've met tonight that you've met meeting under the commission, the government code, 7072. but i do think that s agendized. i mean, i would echo president elias's request that the community meetings be held. i understand that that's that you could read 77 o very narrowly, but there's not an opportunity for the public to community process that the commission followed for 9.07 involved, substantial community community feedback. therew necok requirements imposed on this commission by prop e. and so i k in the spirit, we should all be working to increase that engagement, w the obligation to do so, and i also think that it the, this that after that's done, it's important that this comck before this body. quite frankly, rert as thoroughly as i would

like, given that prop e has really consumed a lot of the common in the months since it passed. and i know i've spoken to many of my fellow commissioners that we're looking forward to sort of being able to return to ourer of morey oversight duties once we're through the immediate aftermath of prop. and so i think that that would include this. so we look forward to seeing you, fo k you. commissioner clay. unfortunately, this came all this the ab 41 happened before i got here on this commission. so i just a real simple question. want to follow up on commissioner oberstein's question. so what is the sanction for failing to file the report on time? i don't i'm unaware of the sanction. that's the problem. as a judge and having seen this, the legislature, they make these laws. but there's no sanction for you too get some gravitas, making people do what they're supposed to do.■ç m

hearing here, it needs to get done. and there's a law that tells you how to do it. just follow it and get it done.ndthe, you know, that's the unfortunate thing. when you don't have a sanction a maybe we may promulgate a sanction for that here. but this law doesn't have a sanction. but w s you, urging you to get it done asap. all right. that's whato sf any member of public comment reg line item six, please approach the podium. h brown again, i'd saye going to get tired of me, but nobody ever gets tired of me sg it hits out on me. shit like that. but not tired. no, the best weapon you got, chief. period. is the public and foot patrols. i mars ago, we gon a pole, guy over, and a guy shot

him and killed him in the east bay, and, auntecop cars rushed over there. that's great. maybe helicopters, whatever the hell and all that. and finally a woman went over and told the cops, she said his name is, john doe,e's over at mary doe. his aunt's place is two blocks the address. and three more cops got killed. but that's here. nor there.he ft of the matter is, i lived in the tenderloin. i grew up in ag pren a lot of crime. i'm special ed teacher. got an it and what happens is a criminal does something. they go running down the street and they go running through the project. they go running through the sro, they go and, the if you know, the cop on the beat, if the cops been there forever, say, hey, his name is john doe. and he went to mary, thos and what you get is millions of eyes on the street, you know, of foot patrols, foot patrols, foot patrols. you got people for it, what you got is, is if you just

got change the difference in people riding the desk with a gun here to equal that in los angeles, you would free uprs f■d you've been promising to do that. and i've been watching foot patrols. my name is john lindsay poland e american friends service committee, which is tracked implementation of ab 41 military equipment policies across the state. the commissioners have weighed in about the community engagement meeting, but i have two responses and trst, the boat only whether the police department complied with policy, but whether it meets state lawarng civil liberties. o reasonable alternatives to meese equipment is cost effective addition, i have sent emails to the to the email address listed in the policy and never gotten a response, two points sfpd own

these are fullyns and 64 automatic weapons war. it also owns as per earlier, more than 600 semi-automatic es to buy 12 more machine guns and 16 more assault rifles with no rationale for why more er firepower is needed than previous years. the number of gun violence victims, as we heard earlier in the cityr since 2021, these additional weapons should not be approved without showing the need for them. changes in conditions that would justify expanding the arsenal and evaluation of alternatives and policy on how use of the weapons will safeguard civil liberties. d dofill not provide the make or model of its machin guns in its military equipment policy, though this is and as n,

it is disclosed only 233 of more than 600 assault rifles. we believe the department should disetion about these weapons as required by ab 481. the board also has authority to add types of equipment, even if they're notie called standard issue weapons, which i would say when you have over 2000 officers and you have 300 weaponsha issue, they're not standard issue. line item eight discussion and possible action to approve revised department. general order 5.03. investigative detentions for the department to use in meeting and conferring with the affected bargaining unitsrequired by law. discussion and possible action. thank you. president elias. coission commissioners. 5.03 was posted, for the last

commission meeting, and it was pulled from the meeting by president elias last week. since that the department has some recommended revisions to 5.03 that we believe will, are in compliance with proposition e and, actu, turn this over to, commissioner benedicto because additional, minor edits on the language that the department is submitting that, commissioner benedicto and i have discussed. so i'll turn it over to him to read what the edits ar and i would ask for the commission's support on this dgo, including the edits that you're about to hear. thank you very much, chief, and thank you to president elias for providing us t think that, the joe that everyone has in front of them for 5.03 is, both in compliance with prop e, as it was last week. but i think

substantially improved. i think it's important as president prith entation from the bwc tea, to be cognizant of theadditionas being imposed when we're asking for things to be what we don't want is the opposite thing to happen, where we're c in an attempt to reduce them, which i think is something that's been very importaan we've tried to capture here. so to my fellow commissioners, you'll see that chie additional language is in the track changes primarily on page four in green, before this meeting, chief scott and i discussed a few clarifying non-substantive changes to that green language, wh will read out. it's mostly just for consistency and changing a few thin in the present tense, and cause some ambiguity into the past te. so if you look on page four of the red domenting detentions and searches using body worn camera, the changes are all to that sentence in green on b that nd i'll callso i'll, i'll read

out the changes. it now says members must cite on theb: factd focus the articulation on why a ch was conducted. no changes there. members must sta why they believed. so that's a change to believed the subject was armed. such a change from is to was and dangerous search was permitted. that's changed to a was as well a the source and age of any information they reliedn, a opposed to you rely on to conduct a pat search. must be cautious about solely about relying solely on information about environmental factors, rather than the subject's con. and, thosechans e chief supports for. for clarity purposes. and so with those and subject, any further questions from my fellow commissione, would make a motion for us to

neral order 5.03 for the department to use in meeting and conferring with the effective bargaining units pursuant to our r relations resolution 23 dash 32nd. before we take a second, i just wanted to highlight some really important facts because again, and i think i've addressed this, the fact towards body-worn cameras and rely more on body-worn cameras, i think it's importa, to also have the discussion ofhat at means in terms of labor for the department and more importantly, what that means to the public, system where instead of being able to go and request a written police report, we're now, forcing th public, the newspapers, pr, whatever, to request body worn camera footage and before body

worn camera ftage can be released to the public, an actual physical member of the rect it to comply with state law before they can release it. and according the body worn camera footage unit, they get 4 to 5 requests a day. a day for body worn camera footagnd anticipate that that will increase once we move towards making everython worn camera. additionally, it 5 minue minute of footage, and that doesn't s like a lot. but imagine it. i mean, and they gave me one exale 21 minutes of video took a member, eight hours to redact. swe haven mind. i've raised this is chiefe issue that although we have a contract in place that'sng and n services, there is still that physical h element that is needed toze tse tools

that are coming to thepartnt. be importantly, there still is a budget gap because i think this department needse staff this department so that we can keep up, because there's currently a backlog in this department, rightly so. given the number of requestd the amount of time it takes just to get one, you one minute of footage released. so i think we have to be cognizant of that. the chief and i have had extensive discussions about this, and, he has reassured me that those issues that are going to be created by this process as we move things to body-worn cameras, is also going to be addressed. and with tha a but wo move. so, i think, vice president carter and then we'll go to commissioner walker, just a clarifying question. so last on last week's version where pat searches recded on bwc or in

an incident report is that a was the rationale for that th change is the propertyle for tes things not required by law, and a writtenre of arrest, is not required by hat can bee same objective ofins captured if the officers were to write a written report, can be captured on the bwc. policy, you all agree the lead with that interpretation. i think that proe is prescriptive in the way directs us to reduce the requirements of record keeping,

and i think th was and coupled with the fact that this dgo was e numerated. dgos that were the prescribed us to look at that stage for record keeping, that this seemed like a change that, that was i consider this change to be one mandated isopefully workable. and i th think something i've shared with the chf relates to what president elias said is that, you know, some of this t we'll have to look and see what impact this has on on the bodyur ability to turn around reports, in a timely manner, because i also share present concerns, and personally think that an incident report isuall easier and not harder. but i think given the mandate of property, andone t' the enumerated ones, i'm supportive of this change. do you have questions? because i think you're just asking a question.sl answer. the real answer for me

is, am it?o. do i think pat searches to be in a hill to die on? no, i think that given some of the languagete ary concerns are. are not as great as i thought they were. but to be clear, i pat searches are very intrusive. it's a it's an intrusion on yourights. constitutional rights. and i think that it's extremely serious. ihi have a problem with pat searches in this department. the data tellse searched at a more higher rate more importantly, we're not even meeting the 50% mark when it comes to contraband because order to pat search somebody, you have to have facts in order to pat search. and the facts you have to have have to or you have to artic there's a crime or there's some contraband on you in order to search them. ane data from the 96 a reports tells us that when we're searching people, we're not finding stuff me that either, you know, we're searching people and there's no basis, or we're

not properly training officers on how to be on the lookout for certain indicators, which would warrant a pat search. so those are my concerns. and i think that with this language that the officer having to articulate certain things which are required, i think alleviates some of my concern, so that's want to answer. there it is. 'sn. yh, because i i'll be honest, i don't see this change at all as. it seems like this is chiefs personal preference. so i did ask you, chief, why do you take a different view about, you president elias, i think listed out a lot of compelling reasons why it may actually be more cumbersome to record all of these. and on lou disagree with that? that disagree with more cumbersome. yeah. i mean, i take it tyo position is it will be less cumbersome to use bwc versus an incidenteport when it comes to pat searches that that is my position. okay. but

and prt elias just a moment ago laid out some the idea that it ldal end up being more work in the long run we, you know, make too many of these bwc reports. so just asking with that. this. well, i disagree because i don't believe i don't agree with that piece. and i'm asking why. yeah. yeah. because an officer recording what they're doing as they're ae doing it, that's the extent of what they would have to do, as opposed to writing an incident report, which usually reqre to , write a report, be out ofnthis , this at least this part of proposition e was designed to u officers administrative time so they can be in the field. i think that does well not think this would accomplish that. so ion'tee it as less cumbersome. and i do understand everything, president elias ands about this, but i don't see that as being more cumbersome because

of those reasons. i think the officers record, if there's an arrest, they're going to have to write a rt not an arrest, everything that they did would be recorded on that body worn camera. e reewed if there's a complaint investigation, the information is there. an actually, i think there's some benefits to it because to rollect what's happening right when it's happening, it's probably going to be more accurate in my opinion. thank you, commissioner clay. so i just want to say support, commissioner benedicto and the president statement as it relates to this particular statute or this particular, general order. the problem ishere's no perfect order. it's not going to happen. we get that tim i read the city attorney's opinion that she provided to the commission prior after tha of property, and it's pretty clear that the language dictates this is what we have to do. we may not like it. we're goingk/ to he

to test it and see what happens with it. but, you know, this ist southerners did when the civil rights voting act was passed. they wenty to try to say, this is not right. and it picked out and said, they said, oh, this is this, this is this is what we have to do. this is san francisco. all right? we given a mandate. we'll do it. if it doesn't work, we're going to come back. but we got to move on. this is waytimen this because it's pretty clear in the city attorney's opinion of what and we're following it, and we don't may not like it. i wasn't here wh a these things happened, but you got to follow it and so'd like to move on and ask and commissioner walker would like to second this, and i'd like tod sergeant second for any member of the public would like to make public comment regarding line item 85.03. please approach the podium.

i represent juvenile justice. children in the juvenile justice system for a long, lng time. ann here for id. the hill bomb went down without chief part of the e last one. and not the last one. on before that. that's why i was so screwed up. okay, no offense to your your your guys there, but what they did there, s one of the reporters on the scene asked the captain, stand there i don't know if it was your station guy, mean, what are you going to do? and the captain said, we're going a lot of arrests today. we're going to make a lot of arrests today. so they got a hundred of my juvenile kids into the system as fast as they could

before they saw a lawyer. i've said this before, i'll say it again. you know, that was abusive. you're going to pay millions of dollars for that crap to begin with and allf that. but you did it for ids. i mean, get with the system. you don't need to raid aty, when yo. claude cost $20 a month, and he's a better brain than anybodn this city, you've got a problem. we. you had a meeting here on translators. you can't have translators. yoca system for $20 a month. again, you have to pay forth i speaks n the world, you know, stopectinga strong arm when you can getugh s the end of public o com the

motion. commissioner walker i'm sorry, commissioner clay. how dy is. yes, commissioner. walker. yes, commissioner walker is. yes commisercommsioner benedicto is. commissioner yanez. yes, commissioner. i'm sorry. yes, cosi yanez is. yes. commissioner. yee. yes. prident carter overstone. no. vice president carter whetstone is no. and pdeas, president elias is. yes. you have six yeses. lem nine discussion, discussion and possible action to approve. revised department general order 5.05, emergency response and pursuit. driving for the departmentin meeting and conferring with the affected bargaining units as required by law. discussion a. all right, fw commissioners, this is another one of the prop e, general orders that was taken off calendar last week, after a discussion was had as to whether the commission would request apprehthisension draft has reflects only that change.s,

you'll see that it now requestse this is unchangedn we had last u know, there was some discussion last pursuit policy changes were, some of the most significantnow, probably what the public knows most about prop e. and so this was worked on very closely and carefully over the number of months t make sure that it complies with prop e's. prescription to increase thecess can be undertaken of whether that's a good idea, that's the that's what it so ts complies with that fully and also maintains, oversight, and accountability and tries to incorporate as many best practices as possible with that, i would like to make a motion to approve, the revised department order 5.05 for use with meeting and conferring pursuant to our labor relations resolution 23, dash 32nd. so, chief you

the issue of including the. apprehension, data was an issue around. data collection and prop e do you still have that issue? i mean, i now see it in the version that we're voting on. yeah, i, i still think that's an issue. yes. so i thought what was going to happen is the commission was going to vote on which version that or there woulbe a discussion on which version is that. can i ask the, because this, this pcuing that y voting on is a reflection of how prop e affectsgo this is implementing prop e, does that edit include

implementing it required by law, good evening, commissioners alicia cabrera with the city attorney's office, so i believen you're asking me is whether the green language, the number of pitted n underedy prop e. the answer is no. it's not required by erty specifically states the fields of information that's before y up until that green portion. so it asks for aannual report on the reason for the pursuits, the number of pursuits that resulted in a collision, the number of pursuits that resulted in ay, ae officer or member of the public, and the were found to be within or outside of policy. prop e hiursuits, reporting requirements includes a list of information that the department must provide, but the commission has authority under its policy making power to require additional information from the

chief. and so that would be a direction to the chief of police. but it would not be because prop e requires it. and it's not required by law. be ini av to the commission? so the second on the floor, sergeant, for any member of the public would like to make public comment regarding line item 9o5 .05. please approach the podium i'll pretend i'm more senile than i am and go a little off topic, but the way to make this the safest city iworl for pedestrians like me and for dogs and cats and wheelchairs, is to put a speed bump at everyam tran francisco. every single one of them. you get a reputation around the world instantlygereaw

in san francisco. and if somebody got killed at that, pus there. that is the endf puic comment on the motion. commissioner clay, how do you vote? yes, commissioner c. yes, commissioner walker. no, commissioner walker is no commissioner. benedicto. yes. commsiedicto is. yes. commissioner yanez. yes. commissioner yanez is. yes. commissioner yee. oh, no. commissioner yee is no. vice president carter. erstar. cartr is. yes. and elias. president elias is. yes. you have five yeses. line item ten. public comment. and all matters pertaining to item 12 below comment on item 11. a vote whether to hold im 12 in closed session. if you would like to make a public comment regarding closedession, please approach the podium. seeing none. line item 11. vote on holn

closed session. san francisco administrative code sec0 action. i'll make a motion ise second. all right. on the motion, commissioner clay, how do you vote? commissioner clay is. yes commissr.r walker is. yes. commissioner benedicto. yes. commissioner benedicto is. yes. commissioner. yanez. yes, commissioner yanez is yes. commissioner yee. yes. commissioner yee is yes. vice president carter overstone. yes. vice president carter is. yes. and president elias. yes. president liais are

seeing none on the motion. commissioner clay, how do you vote? yes, commissioner clay yes, commissioner walker. yes, mr. walker is. yes. commissioner benedicta. yes. mr. benedic ioner yanez. yes. commissioner yanez is. yes. commissioner yi. yes commissioner yi is. yes. yes. vice president carter is. yes. journment.x yeses. line item

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