wednesday august 21. egul meeting of abatement appeal's board. firstavez. >> here. >> commonalexander-tut. >> here. >> commissioner shaddix. >> commissioner sommer. >> here >> commissioner

>> here. >> commissioners meng and nuemann are excud. and next we have our land acknowledgment. the abatement appeal's board [ramaytush ohlone acknowledgment] >> thank you. and next members of the public listen nothing the public comment call in nu is

415-655-0001 theode is 26623248361. >> and our next we'll have the oath. >> do you swear testimony you are about to give is the truth to the best of your you may be seated. >> and also wanted to justd for everyone's affirmation the way the proceedings w place. is that the department of its o peek and last rebuttal time of 3 minutes for department and the mites. next item is b. and possible action to adopt the

minute for a special meeting july regular meeting july 17th, 20l a motion to approve the minutes? >> so moved. >> second. >> so there is a a a second is there public comment on the minutes? seeing none,ur commissioner in favor? >> aye. >> opposed? >> the minutes are approved. >> good morning one piece of housekeeping. before we start. appellates fora 28 for 1920 quint street with drawn thend not hear them today. thank you.

anyone for public comment near item. >> next item c. continued appeal order of abatement. case 6925200 ash ton avenue. and the action requested by at the april 12, abatement and assessment of costs. appellate requests the board rescind and reverse the violation noise. notice of violation andrderf abatement. appellate stated that the removal of blight wasple prior to the nov. and would staff like to move forward?

>> good morning to and building inspection commission i'mr building inspector here to represent the department of bung inspection for presenting the aab appeal case agenda. following the appeal, case number 6925 the addr is 201 ashton avenue. property consisting of the one story 5b in [inaudible] occupancy. house in september 2017, dbi conduct a

[inaudible] at the presis in responds to the public complaint new fence were erected surrounding the size of the premesis at the lot of the block. all fences wereis from the streecht in height ranging 4 to 6 feet. at the ba of the sidewalk and within the public right-of-way. unauthorized fences multiple violations against code. across the city agency from planning, publi work, puc to dbi. owner has take action to comply with the violation a remove the fence whin the time line after over over 5 yearsdbi rendzer a decision to issue order ofteme on march of

2023. 7 years agohe owner file a building permit. 0923. and attempt to fence. however thshg permit has not been approved by dbi due to the owner nan respog comply. and fail obtain approval for encroame permit. the owner follow an appeal with the board december of last year. order of released last month. currently the property owner is required revise their permit drawing andincorporate their condition and requirement out line in public works june 13 of 24. odifation as detailed in the order. staff recommendation, uphold the

order of abatement. including imposing the assessment of cost due to the site document of vlation after a physical site inspection in septem 2017. property owner replace the in noncompliance height at the front of the premesis in the right-of-way without an approval the building pe city planning and public work approval. today, 7 yshe first nov the owner has not obtained end complete the corrected work to legalize the fence. reverse back to the last legal condition. hence, the o of abatement was issued appropriately back in april of 2023. thank you. appellate mayforward.

>> before begin, i president shaftys could i hand out a hard board? i think we don't a motion? no. that'sfine. >> yea. >> whole board. should be extra copies.

>> okay. >> in 2017 repaired a bt fence on the property following code. blight removal is public works, housing and building de. sidewalk light to enhance safety by public works code. style of . [speak fast the visibility corrected the pillars in alignment with planning code. in 2017 there was a music complaint the reds dent has been

doing construction and playing loud music from 10 a.m. to 7 p.m. i would like to lowered i hear it in my impeachme a day this is not detail unsafe er and federal law. dbi a searc pvate property without probable cause. proper consent and due violating our rights. >> dbi issued violation an investig new fence on the cornir lot without the benefit of a san francisco code requires at the time notice of violation is issued the direct take paragraphs of the ppe and make copies of them available. building code when the building determines by inspection this properties are unstable the officials give written notice to the owner that properties areunsafe. shall specify the .

dbi violation notice violates our rights. db violation notice does not notify the owner of their dues notice. san francisco code legislates violation notice give the owner 15 days a hearing and set the prefer for requesting a hearing. california constitutions require a not deprives of life, liberty or process without due process of law. law violating or >> on october 11, 2017 filed permit application. the city mandated a var hearing due to the height of the fence without the legal requirement that the action makes the property safer.

our variance was approve 2019 and process in the 2021ful on november 24 of 21dpw alleged right-of-way easement needs legislationnd mandated encroachment permit. decber fourth of 21 we submitted a minor sidewalk encroachment permit. on february 30 of 22, dpw fence height, rarns legalizing the hiechlt movehe fence for 3 foot clearance around the street light. obtain a general excavation laand permits to remove the gas fire tablete 2015 permit legalizing the gas fire and no code violation.

>> on december 23 [inaudible] despite absence ofencroachment ensure the per myth could not be abement was filed. in responsibles to the appeal dbi n claims for first time since they filed the violation the fence encroach the public right of way mining the safe path of travel which is a mistake dbi defense relies. law says that public pvate rights of ways areif public ways are termed highways or pc roads and situated every citizen has a right. private way ease am a person oron has a right from the general public. map ratifies the right of an a private easement.

the 1922 reserve the private right-of-way easement fort ght pole access. title for our property legalize the ease am forpuc access and the historic map confirmed the right of ray ease am throughout the neighborhood is for access to water pipes. individual and together the evidence proves private easement is private property. dbi claims our private easement is a owned unpaid sidewalk violate sidewalk code require sidewalk surfaces to be firm and made of concrete, tile, exposed concrete sidewalk paving material. dbi claim of city owned unpaved sidewalk is a mistake of fact and law >> this hearing i dbi violations and abatement from 23, dbi conducts unlawful

ar propertiful july 8 of 24 search for evidence of nonexistent property proves there was never evidence of une property. continued searchs of private property withoutus of unsafe property without proper consent or due process protections violate ourts. because the jurisdiction of the board is limited to sustaining orveuling dbi abatement and dbi searchs and violation notices violate law outside of the board's we request this board to remand the caseo e superior court society judge can require i to rescind the unlawful noticeskno searching private property and violation noise void of

property. thank you. thank you. is there public comment onhi item? any remotely? no. there is no p comment. there is staff rebuttal? stot department dbi [inaudible]

theerppellate is required to obtain permit for fence inemr property. in fact the ownerai obtain permit before the repair. we. we are wor oit. just a moment. we have that in the staff report

the package let's look at the exhibit b. that's the existin it is a typical of that extend from the pmir city planning approval which is like with the. and maximum height in front of the property. however, you reveal the common b on the bottom the photo capture in 2017 e rekt repaired fence without obtaining dbi that fence is beyond the 3 feet and solid panel. which is beyond the requirement that from the permit. the appellatehi action erecting thisene permit constitute a violation. okay. and currently they have not getting approval from for approval to encroaching the public right-of-way is defending

the owner to comply with violation. so. that's it. >> okay. thank you. and does the appellate have bu no. >> okay. >> thank you. and the board deliberation. before we get started i want to make sure we understanding what the discretion and jurisdictif e are. board today is. we are looking specifically whether or not there was a permit for this work? that's what the notice of violation was. there this is unpermitted building? i'm asking who can >> that's correct. notice of violation the fence without a permit required and ere is still no permit as of today. you are determining whether the abatement was properly.

>> thank you. >> thank you. commissioner alexander-tut. to upon follow want to ask what we are not hearing today. confirm i will understand. there is a brought up know issue of no notification ths are there is not a challenge of jurisdiction we are hearing the case, correct? yes. that'sit. >> so and then the of the easement is not before usay? that is correct. >> thank you and the question about the access to the street light is not before us today. >> correct >> we are talking about the permit for the fence. was it issued properly

>> the issues you mentioned may come up at the approval process but those questions are not tod? >> that's correct. >> thank you. further question. commissioner sommer. i know that you one does not need a per■t to install a fence up to certain heights i l it told me specifically that requirement. a building permit is not required a fence 3 feet or less in front ofproperty. says the planning information sheet on the website? >> yes. understand that we got a variance and now up to 4 feet in height. >> right if you read the violation legalize it ass or reduce it to 3 feet. they wou needed a

permit >> and a variance up to allow i? >> the permit staff? >> planning department variance. >> they are working on it. however we need to the nov issued 7 years ago is a and the abatement issue last year is accurate they did not get the permit to upgrade the violation. >> i see what you are it is over the only time you would not need a permit de feet on the front of property. under 3 feet it was over 3 feet >> that's correct. should have at they have okay. the notice you are saying the notice saying that violated is correct? and now we near are we are seeking a vains to approve it at the height.

shaking her head. trying tonld. >> i will finish my line of thought. may be can come up. the fence this replaced the existing fence is over 3 feet. so -- the dar need a permit you don't have one notice of violation.li -- in sh photo show on the exhibit bhay city plan and public work and also puc agree because as of now isting street light owned by puc and part of the p right-of-way >> we are oldsmobile we are talking aboutnd -- better or worse i don't know if it is more or less helpful or confusing isolating the issue what is in our purview. >> >> want to focus on the the

fence ne permit. did it, no. yes it did need a permit at this time it is tall are then and there 3 feet and no tedid not ha a permit. >> yes. that's the case. >>ay i gift appellate a chancet when dbi a andhee we trying to get the permit dbi said we need variance to allow 4 foot height we went throughout variance proc planning department. and the planning department did approve the 4 foo height of the fence in 2019 and that was assessor office in 2021. why do they continuing is in the a variance approved. do -- so what this. good questio see that dpw

approved a variance this. >> so 2019.ring on june 13th once we the variance for the 4 foot heist fence it went to planning for approval. approve top dpw for approval and then held the fence permit have dp w requiring other things the recent fence repai permit was not completed dbi is preventing it from being completed they say other things untrue part of a big are case. because of that dpw is the permit that is why we could not complete it. >> yea. >> i would dpute that fact dbi is not upholding the permit it is dpw at the moment. and dbi already approve today waiting fdpw's okay.

>> got it. >> how does last -- sorry. how does this determination in june an all right from dpw here. how does that affect where we are now? >> i believe the later from publiorks the appellate appeald that to the board of appeals and the appellate prevailed there. >> i will lether. >> i wanted say thank you for your your report. i know you must have been spent a lot of >> thank you very much. >> so, w we tried to get the fence perimism we had thece,depg we needed an encroachment. we applied for thatnd then dpw denied it because of the other things they said a wrong, which are untrue.

and we appealed the denial of the minor sidewalk encroach am permit to the board of appeals. d did prevail in that case. d dpw isseen though prevailed dp saying we have to do those things before than i ll release the fence repair per nay is in process a will file a mandate based on that >> thank you. >> commissioner wimsappellate? earlier you said that the department dbile william permit issued they did somee made erroneous decisions? what decision are the facts behind that statement. there were errors tha causing the permit not to be issued. >> that is not to

convey. there was no blight orrs property when the original request for fence repair permit was issued. and we stipplyd and applied for a fence repair permit. and this permi is held by dpw and not letting us complete it dpw is saying that they want you to do a bunch of other and so it is held by dpw we would finished it if they would have allowed other than tr the materials. and i think issue we have is a lot we don't jurisdiction. this is we are a building inspection commission. we can't sends an order to court and save you to hear this we sdroept this but is there other errors i factual legal errors?

byhet you believe are yet permit has not been issued? the permit has not been issue dpw is holding on to it. dpw release we could finish the permit. and the order of abatement was held, it is n our paul the order of abatement we are asking to be over turned the order abatement was filed because there is a holds on the permit and we can' finh because dpw is holding the rmit. commissioner sommer.wo chicken . sorry. i like to point the permit was applied for in 2017. it is taking >> indeed. not saying that is the appellate's or w's fault it has been there for a bit.

>> right. >> i to wan provide additional information. throughout permitting ess, dpw discover additional violation in of the property. unauthorized gas pipe below the public right-of-way. before approval. this dbi violation alone is easily issue. they either legalize the fence like this or they can reverse it back to the last legal continue like the requirement no more then and there 3 feet high or not like this solid panel. appellate choose to goy way is their decision that delay the complian dbi determination order of is accurate and should be year uphold.ei

i don't remember what i was going to ask. commissioner can i hear more about the dbi thefence?d over counter permit can i hear more when we approved >> i'm saying pa application planning has to look, look and dpw look at it. city planning beginro dbi given approval pending dpw's si one step. >> that's when i was wanting to hear. commissioner. >> so. for the appellate i had a couple qus. rms.y be opening up a can you know your request for rew

leaf resends the notice of violation issue new holdings and other things. you know if you are looking for lieve we can look at the er i whether there is a substantial error in law or fact by the department. and also consider modifications if you kno appellate can show there is -- i'm wondering is there a hardship that prevented reducing the f 3 feet or removing the fengs area around the street light. and why senors to get permit? some of te facts are missing here. the extent we can consider that may be a modification i guess would be the only o part of

it. >> certainly. apply for the permit right after dbi did their investigation. when we applied, they requested the 4 foot height haftically 4 foot fence was 4 feet. variance approved by planning and was registered . that has been completed. and when sign off on the permit, planning signed off on the per a dbw is based on a claim that our ease am in easement it is a city owned unpaved sidewalk. because dpw is claiming our private property easement where the fire table -- they are is city owned sidewalk that's why they a holding on the fence repair permit. they are telling us we need to remove everything off of private property before they will allow

th permit to be completed. we are challenging that. th a question of law that is challenged with dpw's claims. commissioner sommer do you remember your question? sorry. we are talking built fence, right? not gas lines? just the fence. i to answer your question may be i'm hearing they did not do that they don't think they it is writtening they think they areed do that for a reason that are notab. i'm -- okay. if someone isss a notice of

violation. and you have an time to address it. it wressas i mean the process was started permits wer reasons outside of t department's control -- what will so -- in that forces an order of is am i? >> when the notice of violation is written well is compliance deadline. if not met, or not working the inspector determines it is not moving forward will schedule for a directive hearing that is what thfficer issued the order of abatement. >> but if it is moving forward there is effort tos address i then and there is a l ago and time lines are hard to track what if it is being fatscretion of the hearing officer. could be case where they filed .

it is the discretion of the wt can issue under of abatement. c. issue add vise am which says have you 30-days to sort it out. at the end an order will be issued >> there is no further context given todecision. we know what the decision was which was the issue order of abatement. >> i don't want to read hearing officer's mind there was a fence build a permit. >> right. and that -- i mean -- there are reasons i think there is like nuance to it. i mean. just i reading the statement from the decision from the board of appeals they did overrule or sorryld for the appellate. so -- think she is movingd.

we would not be opposed giving more time to sort this out with department of public works it is the hurdle her >> that means a stay on the order of abatement? or i'm sorryon't have terms correct. >> i will defer. >> hold it in abatement for a certain time. it is on holds because feel there is good reason things are moving forward and t allow more time i acknowledge 7 years, yes a long time. i mean 7 years the board appeals hearing was only -- i believe'm. it is recent. >> right.ible]. >> right. i don't know who is in control of that. the tf that if that is --

thi because appellate did not file that for thisunt time or because we whatever cases don't get heard for an amount of time? >> i'm sorry what were you asking b. saying this is the this is board of appeal's the appellateea decision with public works they had to get the decision from public wo appealed temperature that was heard by the board of appeals. >> they board found in favor of thete d overruled department of public work's order. so that the time frame of that is you needed public works decision to appeal first when they got that decision appeal today a got it on the calendar firstiti. seems i would be in favor of

holding inbay. for some amount time potential low. notice ofio seems like it was present low issued. ok and see a fence, no permit. over 3 feet. fine. right. that does require a permit. appellate received that and said okay. filed for permit and a number of issues come up. i'm trying to be consistent how we have done thi befe and what is our actual purview and appropriate? all of you in the gray area and make its a challenge to make sure we areconsistent. >> right >> so the board you aect in that. your jurisdiction is limited in in that you are focusing on whether the order of abate whether there is a legal error or factual

and so -- i want to reminds the boardf that. it is whether or not what happened when dpw sounds like there may be a superior court that may take time. but now you focusing on whether the order of abate issu. whether a legal error or a factual error in that order. there is flexibility? i'm not is or factual error on the part of the appellate they did everything i everything they were supposed to be doing and what do we do then? yo can either reverse it if you think that there is a b to reverse it or as you modify it t ue it for a certain time. consideringhe

was some there is some public safety risks to in bay. you have that i don't public safety its a fence i don't fl there is a public safety issue. >> that's j b someone can correct me. may i ask may be -- there are others in line to talk. i was going to ask, if we were sir allowing more time would that be -- sndike this hearing was last month. th now. although may be -- still encountering other issues? we are not in charge of dpw. i know your jurisdiction is ■li this it is a complicated case. going back question of notice of violation and filing it andid bring up the city

codes that say that there has b id bring that up in my ion. written brief and the tation. and so there never was blight or unsafe prope notice of violation. building without a permit is a >> right >> it was a repair of a fence and the antiblight don't say you need to get a permit fo. we got permit and moved forward with itw i think that is outside of the jurisdiction of the board. but to file the order of abatement when we have done everything we are asked a lot of the delay is outside of ourcontrol, we feel is nice to overrule the order of because we have done everything we were asked. hear you. if we were to consider us

instead of over turning and al more time to get worked out would that do you feel like things are moving forward such based.hey will be resolved >> i don't know how long with the we have a current coure going on with an additional writ about the ere case. so that is am not happen nothing parallel and the writ of mandate is not we have another months thaurn in i don't know how long that will take going t. i like to not be penalized for doing everything that we asked that's what our request isenali the requests of our city. commiser alexander-tut. so, i'm ting to ground this in

building code. so we there is replacement fenc? for fencing that says, after 3e true. inspector came out issuing the nov and permit filed. dbi signed off on the permit. we said meets our codes. itn the building code, itself what is resolved is the other department's portion of the permit in it looks like the code portion concerns resolved wrong? >> i think -- d. buildingspeco permits with the appropriate approvals from the other departmentsthcity. we are the issuing d. but weess

concerned department has signed off onit. so, the building code issues. correct. >>■6 building code issues on th plans were submitted for thecat approved by our plan checker. does not believe we issued a permit. >> i'm trying tonld l the things in our control where are ? >> i add in the next step after a permit is issued you schedule inspection to make sure it is build according to codes. >> correct. they are plans -- the plans meet with the -- second step, correct. >> and - is it correct that dpw combined the notice of violation of the fence with odeno related items?

i'm not familiar with case. >> yea. out of our scope. if anyone knows this to be true? i think the review is independent based on code. but i believe the appellate they can resolve this issue stands alone from dp if they restore the fence back to 3 feet or lower. so -- they don't have to wait for thedpw approval. may be the encroach am permit f to public right-of-way. however they haveheideration be and the gas pipe situation. that take them longtory consider. i,000 perspective. i will just feel a little

bit conflicted in making if the city has a due process rule and somebody is going through it i for it and holding them time line they createed write someone through duess. which prevailed in. and so i'm -- i'm also -- curious about solution -- either give more time. time seems like a long time from now makes me also hesitant.

commissioner williams? >> i -- commissioner sommer, as i see the case the department did not have an error law or in fact. also i disagree with the notify notion the appellate had done nothing wrong the blgsd of the fence without the permit is not like a criminal morally depride on and you didn't comply with it. be incli use our authority to the extent it because the idence this is a threat to d public health and safety at alh

authority to provide a modification. but if the appellate does not give us a proposal for w modification would be, i don't know how we can do it. is a tim appellate if you want to make a consider. that would be appreciatedy me. but that's my position far. and may be all i got on this. so. request is overrule the order of abat we are moving forward. removeing time line because d signed off on it.

would be our re along with the fees for the order of thank you. r you to do this when well is d no error. that is the stick point. purview.hat's clearly our that's why i said there is flexibility and -- us to overrule it wholesale is we do it, it is a hard are ask from case to case. that type of thing. i mean that said i is -- i'mn discussions of what and like open to may be

that's not . that's not the way to go? what are your thoughts? i agree with you commissione sommer. that -- to essential low just 3. because there complications. to me i wanted -- feel mf and would not feel like would be me applying the law a applies to this commission. if we i voted just over turn the abatement without demonstration of an error by the law or fact. modification? yea. but if tell be between this and

if tell be betweenup holding the department's order or out i vote toitup h that's where i am on it. commissioner shaddix. thank you. thank you for presentation. it was well done. i appreciate t. upon grinding my teeth like come on. i am sort of with commissioner williams that fence was built without the permit. i'm with you way on this. you know but i don't think as a commissioner here just completely tossing -- i'm happy to meet youhalfway. so just with my fellow commissioners i'm more than happy to -- add more time. wher. i do appreciate your

presentation and feel the frustration. you are moving this forward you are doing it.so i keep my finge te done and beautiful job and coming out with the chain saw andakg the foot off the to which fence is going through my minds that doesot like a good idea. that's where i am, thank you. commissioner sommer. >> yes. i was going to note, say -- the notice of violation for building without a permit are hard for me. but put things in the same adition to your house as a new fence. replng fence we have evidence of. you know. so -- that's where in my minds there is you know we try view everything black and white and apply the same to everything in

reality there are differences in the way in -- some of the different case so. just a thought there. so then are we about what in holding at bay for 6 months? what does this mean? happens? or sorry. no, go ahead. if you decide for a 180 day they would have at least days to make the corrections bef an order of abatement. right. >> yes to get the permit and complete work. before the order is recorded, the order o abatement.

>> june? commissioner alexander-tut go and you will go. with the order of bay if days to get the per mir or complete the work would that include the180 day in 3 feet?tive reduce the height to >> all right. my verification question. commissioner? okay. commissioner sommer? >> 180 days ifre still in the legal system and stuff not move forward they don't take the one foot off the fence does this mean you enforcedorde again we are baagain?

i have to think. i don't know. i mean -- in my minds would like this to be something to help get the collusion rather than a kicking the can. may be there is no way. >> my recollection is like a -- same as voting today except 90 days in the ture. if it is all resolved by 90 days it isut dision one way or the other and never come back here. >> right. >> i think so. >> yea. >> sounds. >> and then the alternative to table this and t in 90 days or sick months or -- future. those other 2 nondecision today decisions inon us. >> right.

. i don't want to i was read beig the boards appeal's decision. what they did is ovele d. public works denial of the permit and asked them to it ag no more than upon 4 foot the highs public work system asking. to 4 feet >> last page of the -- yea the fence is feet tall. >> as stated they have other hangups. >> that are not building. does not lookdpw will approve as is there are requirements. >>yea. they will -- need to be met before >> is this part of the appeal hearing the appell

>> board of appeals denied the permit for ■encroachment permit and the board of appeals overruled that denial and asked. with the conditions that the t board of appealst page of staff report. >> i read that but requirements th >> yea. >> they still disagree with? i believe so. >> so. again this is out of our -- i'm. we had said we are waiting to seedpw would approve the fence? for our approval go through. they said if you do certain things. so i asked before where does that put the process that we are in now.

the process isd, of the appellate and the d. public works they have to come to what works code beforen i sn off on building permit then can be issued. >> do weknow the time line >> they near lion. >> okay. i'm say figure we say hold 180 days i'm fine with, it may or may note helpful. i would love for it to be and everything to are be are resolved in 180 days. we are not intr of that. and i'm fine,too, if we wish to be hopeful and make that o decision of how to deal with it now. i don't think that is unreasonable. hold if for 180 days.

sounds like thell -- making a motion? sounds like what was discussed the challenge is that after days well is a decision made that is not in our hands necessarily. whether or not. the order of abatement go in affect. tell be as though we said yes we agre■le today that will happen in 180 days. or assessment of fees. >> and litigation process will not be >> correct. i don't know. i'm not in charge of that. >> right. sounds like potentially not. but -- it would be nice if it were probably foreveryone. standards to approve the permit is. right. >> theelith that. >> right. >>

i would like to make motion to thoeld for 180 days. see if the partiese o our control can sort this out. abatement including assessment of costs and bay for 180aycorre. >> a second. >> i will second. >> who? >> motion? by comss symptom and second by commissioner shaddix. a roll call te on the motion? presidentff evidence. >> yes. >> commissioner alexander-tut. >> yes. >> commissioner shaddix.yes. >> commissioner sommer. >> yes. >> commissionerlliams. >> aye. >> that motionarries unanimously.

>> next is public comment. is there general public comment for i not on the abatement appeal's boardagenda? >> seeing 91. adjournment. adjourn? >> moved. >> second. >> and there is a m second. we are adjourned it is 10:44 m. the meeting will reconvene in the 5-10 minutes as building i >> hi, i'm corn field and

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necessary that your house is retrofitted and a couple of yearum s e could get you to a level that you could be in the house after a significant earthquake and it may have damage and there is still a shelter in place wh and worried for the government taking care of you and you are liwhere you can go to work and you want to have your wood frame house is rea easy to get to that level. on top of the wood frame house, i mean every frame house in the west half of the city have a water tank and the water alta over because they are gas fired and start fires. and that is something that you do for yourself, and for your neighbors and for the whole city is make your water tank is braced. >> if you look at the studies that areto have a lot of fires and for every water tank that is braced the is a potential of one less fire that the fire department is going to have to fight anwa to have any more fires than we need to. e first thing that you want is to do. >> and so easy, and you go

on-line and you google, earthquake, water and heater and you osis where you can find the details and you can put them out there on the hardware store and you can hire a small contract tore that for you. that is a couple of hundred bucks, the best inveme youare i building it is complicated. if you are in a high building you just can't anchor your building down because there are no the tenant should be asking questions of and the managers about earthquake preparedness >> and don't take answer, oh, our building is safe it was designed to code. that is not thght answer, ask the tough questions and see if you can get a report that has been given to you. >> what is thright question? will i be able to stay in my home after the expected ak is that a good question to ask? >> yeah, you bemamore specific if you talk to the owner, if it not a recent building, if it is ten or 20

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good afternoon everyone. this meeting will come to order. welcome to the july 29th, 2024 regular meeting of the land use and transportation committee of the san francisco board of supervisors. i'm supervisor marina melgar, chair of board of supervisors president aaron peskin. vchston the committee clerk today is john carroll. and i w