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. >> johnny cochran, after the trial he grew his law firm, defending big names.ase think of the real oj and not this lost person. >> robert khardasian was once part of the defense team and was a close friend of oj. he died of cancer. his children went onto become superstars in their own reality tv show. his daughter, kim, telling david letterman about what was like to be on the sidelines of that legal sir kiss. >> it tore the famil apart. >> back on the record. >> the judge continued to do the same in his courtroom for hundreds of trials after the simpson case. he retired in 2015. the most famous house guest, kato kaylin has been playing bit parts in movies and tv shows, even taking part in celebrity big brother in 2019. and would you believe that next year will have been 30 years since the trial. for all of these people it was a turning point in their lives and something that will forever be a part of their legacy.
. >> johnny cochran, after the trial he grew his law firm, defending big names.ase think of the real oj and not this lost person. >> robert khardasian was once part of the defense team and was a close friend of oj. he died of cancer. his children went onto become superstars in their own reality tv show. his daughter, kim, telling david letterman about what was like to be on the sidelines of that legal sir kiss. >> it tore the famil apart. >> back on the record. >>...
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defense team like bailey and johnny cochran you see on your screen.e robert kardashian who was a part of that as well. so these were all reality tv stars and o.j. simpson was the first reality tv villain, john. >> sandra: when you put it that way, you look back at his football career before all of this was happening and jim was talking about this earlier. i mean, this was a guy who turned heads. he walked in and lit up the room. he was a hero on the football field, 11 years with the nfl. i mean, that moment was something for so many who knew o.j. on the field. to get that alert, that news that these charges that he possibly carried out these heinous murders. >> not just on the field rush more than 2,000 yards on a very good team with the buffalo bills and was this huge star but afterwards he really made his mark. not a lot of people know this but back in 1975 a lot of younger viewers know this, hertz sine o.j. simpson to be its spokesperson. this was unheard of because sports marketing was not a thing back then. o.j. dashing through airports we've all
defense team like bailey and johnny cochran you see on your screen.e robert kardashian who was a part of that as well. so these were all reality tv stars and o.j. simpson was the first reality tv villain, john. >> sandra: when you put it that way, you look back at his football career before all of this was happening and jim was talking about this earlier. i mean, this was a guy who turned heads. he walked in and lit up the room. he was a hero on the football field, 11 years with the nfl....
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including johnnie cochran and barry scheck that poked holes in the prosecution's case scheck questionologist who conceded there were procedural errors and how the blood samples were collected at simpsons brentwood home under cross-examination, defense attorney f. lee bailey accused detective fuhrman of racial bias and using racist language, something fuhrman denied. >> tell us please what it was you offered lawyers in that room of your vocabulary, detective, from today would you answer? yes >> that i don't use any type of language to describe people of any race such as what is alleged tape recordings played in court proved otherwise credibility the goldman family who did not miss a day of court lashed out at the defense. >> ron and nicole were butchered, but it was this pivotal moment considered a huge miscalculation by the product so chris darden as simpson, to put on the bloody glove,nd athe ene resulting in cochrane saying the moment famous ne of the trial in his closing, our district, if it doesn't fit you must acquit after listening to more than eight months of testimony, the seq
including johnnie cochran and barry scheck that poked holes in the prosecution's case scheck questionologist who conceded there were procedural errors and how the blood samples were collected at simpsons brentwood home under cross-examination, defense attorney f. lee bailey accused detective fuhrman of racial bias and using racist language, something fuhrman denied. >> tell us please what it was you offered lawyers in that room of your vocabulary, detective, from today would you answer?...
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johnnie cochran, the country watching the murder captivated everybody. i remember watching as a kid and watching every single day on court tv and just it just gripped the nation. and it's yeah, it's, you know, talk about a complicated legacy. and then obviously, like you said, he is in 2008, he goes into the hotel room of a memorabilia dealer in vegas, armed. he is a then convicted of kidnaping of, you know, of assault with a deadly weapon and gets 33 years in prison, ultimately is released after nine years and then was out on the streets in las vegas and was a celebrity around town until until he died yesterday. yeah. >> michael, let's talk a little bit about that. that long time that the decades between his acquittal and today we're learning of his death. there were many times that he referenced the trial and referenced the killings, sometimes in the not most respectful way. you know, it is unfortunate that oftentimes when a high profile person dies, there entire life is summed up in one headline for many, that will be the murder trial. yeah. how much
johnnie cochran, the country watching the murder captivated everybody. i remember watching as a kid and watching every single day on court tv and just it just gripped the nation. and it's yeah, it's, you know, talk about a complicated legacy. and then obviously, like you said, he is in 2008, he goes into the hotel room of a memorabilia dealer in vegas, armed. he is a then convicted of kidnaping of, you know, of assault with a deadly weapon and gets 33 years in prison, ultimately is released...
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defense lawyer johnnie cochran, prosecutor marsha marcia clark, judge lance ito became famous, even fringein are despite if substantial the evidence that the one-time football player had stabbed nicole and ron, the jury acquitted simpson, and this was a racial uproar. >> not guilty of the crime of murder -- [cheers and applause] in violation of -- [inaudible] section 187a -- >> the jury has spoken. obviously, you're very happy. >> i'm very happy for his family, for his children. i think justice was served. [inaudible conversations] howard: the first interview went to bet's ed gordon. >> i think the media is the main reason why america is feeling the way they're feeling. they were lied to. howard: all the media's fault. kevin corke, how did you feel at the time that o.j. was acquitted by black jurors through what's called jury nullification? he's one of us, he beat the system. we're going to cheer. most whites were angry because a double murderer had been turned loose. >> i don't think this was really about o.j. at the time. it was really about the lapd. people forget that. the whole rodney
defense lawyer johnnie cochran, prosecutor marsha marcia clark, judge lance ito became famous, even fringein are despite if substantial the evidence that the one-time football player had stabbed nicole and ron, the jury acquitted simpson, and this was a racial uproar. >> not guilty of the crime of murder -- [cheers and applause] in violation of -- [inaudible] section 187a -- >> the jury has spoken. obviously, you're very happy. >> i'm very happy for his family, for his...
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. >> johnnie cochran, these all became household names.s where we could be inside the room. that was the first time. anything like that. really happened before. >> absolutely. a lot of you know, were as a result of this you know, you mentioned some there, even, you know, witnesses like a tokyo and others became famous and it was a, you know, an opportunity to kind of break down that wall. lot of famous people were able to to hide a lot of their personal lives. but with this trial, obviously oj was not. and so was a big peek behind the curtain to james personal life differed greatly from the public persona he had created. >> would you agree that he's a monumental figure in american history and american culture and how do you think he'll be remembered for us? we watched all this happened on television, but there's a whole generation of people that don't even know who he is. how do you think he'll be remembered? >> think, you know, the doj simpson story is kind you know, 3 the first act. is this a talented athlete who makes it into films and
. >> johnnie cochran, these all became household names.s where we could be inside the room. that was the first time. anything like that. really happened before. >> absolutely. a lot of you know, were as a result of this you know, you mentioned some there, even, you know, witnesses like a tokyo and others became famous and it was a, you know, an opportunity to kind of break down that wall. lot of famous people were able to to hide a lot of their personal lives. but with this trial,...
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when reached comment, the ghost of johnnie cochran remarked, actually, gloves did fit, but i'm dead and you can't do. meanwhile, reality star khloe kardashian is once againg with the conspiracy theory that o.j. is actually her real father. when we know who really is. >> former biden chief of staffbh ron klain says his old boss should stop takingtaff laps over the economy. staffers told claim he was mistaken t. >> that was joe just wanderinge in circles. a viral video went viral role o of a horse waiting for a train to arrive at a subway station. >> animal control explains that the beast was just commuting to work. all right. >> speaking of the view, whoopi goldberg said republicans want to bring slavery back. that'srepublic not true.t claimed republicans. there'd be no way to get you in a boat back after a bull. >> love it. donald trump visited a chick fillet in atlanta this week. when asked what the best part of his visit wasn aske bes, trud watching stacey abrams clean the deep fryery fryer, chlamyda ,hepatitis c and syphilis. are some of the stds infecting . americans age 55 and olde
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and of course, here we're somebody with a lead two black defense attorney in one, johnnie cochran, you had a defense team that was built of the most statured of defense council and you had a very wealthy black man who had for all the reasons we talked about, had all the accolades and praise. and so that was the land which people's hard to view. the justice system. otherwise, it was fair or not >> bring jane velez mitchell into this conversation. jane, you also cover this trial for us. back then, take us back to los angeles at the time of the trial, what was the gotten a sphere like as this trial was actually taking place >> well, it was so charge wolf, it was all anybody could talk about and it was a divisive situation. you never knew who was going to say, what about this case, but i have to say the lessons of this tragic saga are still with us today. >> the >> prosecution had overwhelming evidence. it was well, as marcia clark said, it was a trail of blood right from the crime scene to oj simpson car to oj simpson's the state right into his bedroom and to his socks a blood found on hi
and of course, here we're somebody with a lead two black defense attorney in one, johnnie cochran, you had a defense team that was built of the most statured of defense council and you had a very wealthy black man who had for all the reasons we talked about, had all the accolades and praise. and so that was the land which people's hard to view. the justice system. otherwise, it was fair or not >> bring jane velez mitchell into this conversation. jane, you also cover this trial for us....
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i remember johnny cochran asked me to visit in jail and i said, this is not a civil rights issue., and we were torn between that. we were not necessarily pro-o.j., but we were for johnny and showing that he could defeat those that were ill-prepared to prove their case. >> yeah, i think you're right, rev, and thank you for allowing me this time talk about something it's hard to believe sometimes that it's been 30 years. i think you hit the nail on the head. the idea that this was not about o.j. simpson -- people forget o.j. had been a beloved football star, but as his time went on as a celebrity, his time in black american had waned frankly by the time all of this happened, and it really was about the idea of finally seeing an african american male in particular beat a system that had beat us down for so very long. that coupled with the idea of the relationship that the lapd had with the black community all of those years. so it was kind of like a david beats goliath for the first time moment, and i think that we have to understand that this trial was really not only about the tria
i remember johnny cochran asked me to visit in jail and i said, this is not a civil rights issue., and we were torn between that. we were not necessarily pro-o.j., but we were for johnny and showing that he could defeat those that were ill-prepared to prove their case. >> yeah, i think you're right, rev, and thank you for allowing me this time talk about something it's hard to believe sometimes that it's been 30 years. i think you hit the nail on the head. the idea that this was not about...
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johnnie cochran then said to me i wanted why they didn't do that myself. but i'm glad they didn't and then i said given everything, it might not have made any difference. and jonny said, bob, i didn't create the facts of the case. i just worked with them and i said and brilliantly. and then with a handshake, we parted company bob costas. thank you so much. appreciate it. >> thank you, jake, >> coming up, why a foundation refused to honore former congresswoman liz cheney and the protest resignation that came up at plus comedian conan o'brien is here to talk about his big new tv venture. but first donald trump it's running out of options as he faces his first criminal trial next week, can he do anything to delay the case >> there's debris and this guy, parents husbands and wives, sky yes, i could've done something differently. you can just make it better for those that follow space shuttle columbia, the final flight, two part finale, sunday at nine on cnn cracked windshield. >> schedule would say flight and will >> come to you to fix >> it. this customer was
johnnie cochran then said to me i wanted why they didn't do that myself. but i'm glad they didn't and then i said given everything, it might not have made any difference. and jonny said, bob, i didn't create the facts of the case. i just worked with them and i said and brilliantly. and then with a handshake, we parted company bob costas. thank you so much. appreciate it. >> thank you, jake, >> coming up, why a foundation refused to honore former congresswoman liz cheney and the...
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johnny cochran ran that courtroom. judge ito, i'm sorry to say, did not.lawyer. you know, when you talk to the young-ins around here, what they know about that trial is if it doesn't fit, you must acquit. >> yeah, the line. >> all right, cynthia, thank you. >>> still ahead, a major development in the betting scandal that has rocked baseball. the new charge now facing show hay ohtani's former prosecutor and how police say he managed to steal millions from the star. >>> first, new frustrations over sky-high fast food prices. >> good morning. for those buying happy meals, a not-so-happy surprise. prices are going up on fast food. we'll have the story on the other side of this break. our families safer, and our planet cleaner. to help us get there, america's plastic makers are investing billions of dollars to create innovative products and new recycling technologies for sustainable change. because when you push for smarter solutions, big things can happen. ♪ music playing ♪ sugar: i'm john sugar. i find people that are missing and bring them back home. [gun co
johnny cochran ran that courtroom. judge ito, i'm sorry to say, did not.lawyer. you know, when you talk to the young-ins around here, what they know about that trial is if it doesn't fit, you must acquit. >> yeah, the line. >> all right, cynthia, thank you. >>> still ahead, a major development in the betting scandal that has rocked baseball. the new charge now facing show hay ohtani's former prosecutor and how police say he managed to steal millions from the star....
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well, his work alongside johnnie cochran and f lee bailey saw oj simpson walk free following the allegationse watched by millions around the world, mr dershowitz, welcome to mark dolan tonight. do you mourn the passing of oj simpson? >> well, first i want to comment. my mind is not on oj simpson right now. my mind is on israel. this is perfect opportunity for england for the united states, for israel to bnng united states, for israel to bring about regime change in iran, which would solve virtually all the problems in the middle east. it would get rid of hamas, hezbollah, the houthis . it rid of hamas, hezbollah, the houthis. it would rid of hamas, hezbollah, the houthis . it would allow for houthis. it would allow for peace between israel and the saudis. it's a perfect opportunity to bring about regime change, which 70% of iranians want. but do we have the courage to do it? it would be a wise decision . it would be be a wise decision. it would be a decision that would have saved britain so much if they had done that in germany in the mid 19305, that in germany in the mid 1930s, as goebbels
well, his work alongside johnnie cochran and f lee bailey saw oj simpson walk free following the allegationse watched by millions around the world, mr dershowitz, welcome to mark dolan tonight. do you mourn the passing of oj simpson? >> well, first i want to comment. my mind is not on oj simpson right now. my mind is on israel. this is perfect opportunity for england for the united states, for israel to bnng united states, for israel to bring about regime change in iran, which would solve...
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cochran.has been acquitted, that case has always followed him. but you know, they say, don't talk ill of the dead. but still his past will come back to haunt him. >> and what's interesting, staff, is that his case represented the american dream, the rise from nothing to the very top and then the plummet to nothing, the plummet back to the bottom. it had everything that captivated the celebrity world. that trial was a global sensation . sensation. >> it was. and it was like a celebrity horror story , because celebrity horror story, because you never expect to see one of the one of the country's most famous sportsmen standing on trial for murder of his ex—wife and her friend. you know, it just didn't make sense at all. and martin, at the time when that case was going on, there was at the height of racial tensions in america following the rodney king situation with police brutality. so it was a very tense time for america. and, you know, a lot of people will continue to say that oj did get away w
cochran.has been acquitted, that case has always followed him. but you know, they say, don't talk ill of the dead. but still his past will come back to haunt him. >> and what's interesting, staff, is that his case represented the american dream, the rise from nothing to the very top and then the plummet to nothing, the plummet back to the bottom. it had everything that captivated the celebrity world. that trial was a global sensation . sensation. >> it was. and it was like a...
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>> well, you know, when johnnien cochran would still alive after o.j., johnnie used to basically rent himself out to go around the country for jury selection. and johnnie would sit at the table and basically he wouldcal, eliminate all the people that d they didn't want, the people who hired him. he was likt,hee a magnet. was he actually was kryptonite fortt the jurors that they the people who hired him did not want. dwe've got the opposite here. there are people coming in.s pe and byople the way, this judge o trump has been vilifying hasbend gone bend over backwards to ensure that this trial is going to last longer than la you can even imagine. and it's actually under the guise of being extremelyr fair because he's doing an individual voibehe's doir dire. he's actually letting the jurors answer all of's letti the jury questions individually, which is something that's unheard of in 40 years. i've never had that. even a death penalty cases. an and they're going to be able to read out. i think, in my humble opinion, i all of what i call stealth jurors, because you worry in high profile c
>> well, you know, when johnnien cochran would still alive after o.j., johnnie used to basically rent himself out to go around the country for jury selection. and johnnie would sit at the table and basically he wouldcal, eliminate all the people that d they didn't want, the people who hired him. he was likt,hee a magnet. was he actually was kryptonite fortt the jurors that they the people who hired him did not want. dwe've got the opposite here. there are people coming in.s pe and byople...