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conway famously would say stop, end george conway, right? stop judging me for my spouse, right? so people have the ability to have family member first have different political views and do different things in that context does merchant need to recuse or not? >> he does not in fact, this has come up before and the litigation with merchant himself and about his daughter trump had raised this before is an idea of recusal and then in august of 2023, judge merchant actually issued an opinion in which he says i, sought the advice of the new york state's committee on judicial ethics, and they told me specifically, and then the query has as he says, quote, we see nothing in the inquiry to suggest the outcome of the case could have any effect on the judge's relative. the relatives business, or any of their interests and quote nothing has changed. these are the same kinds of allegations and nothing about his daughter's business is directly tied to the case, would have to be that she is like one of the parties, one of the witnesses are rather council i
conway famously would say stop, end george conway, right? stop judging me for my spouse, right? so people have the ability to have family member first have different political views and do different things in that context does merchant need to recuse or not? >> he does not in fact, this has come up before and the litigation with merchant himself and about his daughter trump had raised this before is an idea of recusal and then in august of 2023, judge merchant actually issued an opinion...
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see kellyanne conway there as well? >> sarah when i was counsel for the first impeachment of the former president we investigated this identical set of facts including many of these witnesses. i took hello, picks deposition because the same as the judge put it, alleged interference with a an election gives rise to impeachable offenses as well and i think that the prosecution, alvin bragg, has up case here. if they're calling whole picks, their calling these other witnesses. it's because they've meticulously put together a case that they're going to present to the jury of how donald trump allegedly, let's remember, he's innocent until proven guilty, but he allegedly kept vital information from voters in the 2016 election. that's the case of voter deception and allegiant election interference. it's a gateway drug dam doing the same thing, allegedly in 2020, that's why we're going to hear from o picks. and the others. they have critical information in the determination of da alvin bragg shows you how wide the case spreads
see kellyanne conway there as well? >> sarah when i was counsel for the first impeachment of the former president we investigated this identical set of facts including many of these witnesses. i took hello, picks deposition because the same as the judge put it, alleged interference with a an election gives rise to impeachable offenses as well and i think that the prosecution, alvin bragg, has up case here. if they're calling whole picks, their calling these other witnesses. it's because...
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conway. specifically when you look at hope hicks, what can her testimony provide, compare that to other witnesses that we know are likely to be called like michael collin so there are two things about who picks that i think make her a potentially a very powerful witness. first of all, she's the ultimate insider and most significantly for this case, she apparently is on some of those key phone calls that are happening between and among donald trump, michael cohen and others when they are first arranging for these payments to be made to stormy daniels in 26 16, keep in mind the payments themselves are not illegal. it's the falsification of records around those payments. so we don't know whether she has information about either of those things, but it appears she was part of crucial conversations. the other thing about hope to hope hicks is she is still more or less in the trump camp. she has not a defector who has publicly turned on donald trump and earned his ire like a michael cohen. she rema
conway. specifically when you look at hope hicks, what can her testimony provide, compare that to other witnesses that we know are likely to be called like michael collin so there are two things about who picks that i think make her a potentially a very powerful witness. first of all, she's the ultimate insider and most significantly for this case, she apparently is on some of those key phone calls that are happening between and among donald trump, michael cohen and others when they are first...
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if kellyanne conway takes the stand i bet she has negative things to say about michael cohen. maybe hope hicks two. and what you do as a defense lawyer, not my profession, ards, but i've seen enough good ones inaction when it comes down for closing go folks. their own witnesses, the first guy they put in front of you, david pecker, said that their star witness is prone to exaggeration if you find that he exactly related to this case is over. so that's a really smart and effective tactic like michael cohen can be restored as the star witness so easily because people forget or maybe don't forget that he pled guilty to the same scheme that trump is now being put on trial for and people generally as a defense lawyer do not plead guilty to things they didn't do. that plea is locked in. he took a three-year jail sentence for the acts that he claimed in open court when he entered his plea. i did this at the direction of donald trump and you just can't get around that no matter or how bad the defense makes. michael cohen look, and it's going to be a slug fest when he gets on the stand
if kellyanne conway takes the stand i bet she has negative things to say about michael cohen. maybe hope hicks two. and what you do as a defense lawyer, not my profession, ards, but i've seen enough good ones inaction when it comes down for closing go folks. their own witnesses, the first guy they put in front of you, david pecker, said that their star witness is prone to exaggeration if you find that he exactly related to this case is over. so that's a really smart and effective tactic like...
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she was on that campaign plane when it was like two of them and maybe kellyanne conway, and she knew where the bodies were buried. she knew the dirt on donald trump. i'd have to imagine if she takes that stand it will be scary and mortifying for trump to sit there knowing that he's muzzled, he can't say anything in response and he doesn't want to offend her, and yet he knows what she knows. that seems to be the biggest risk to him. >> jon, who do you think the next witness is going to be? >> they're going to call anybody who they think can corroborate michael cohen because michael cohen recently, a very respected federal judge judge furman wrote in an order that he thinks michael cohen may have committed perjury recently. michael cohen, there was never a camera, never a tv show he didn't go on. now, i don't blame the media for that, he was a great find, but i have never seen either as a prosecutor or a defense lawyer, a cooperator go on tv time and time again before they testify just to demonstrate his bias against trump and his desire to make trump go down. i think they're going to
she was on that campaign plane when it was like two of them and maybe kellyanne conway, and she knew where the bodies were buried. she knew the dirt on donald trump. i'd have to imagine if she takes that stand it will be scary and mortifying for trump to sit there knowing that he's muzzled, he can't say anything in response and he doesn't want to offend her, and yet he knows what she knows. that seems to be the biggest risk to him. >> jon, who do you think the next witness is going to be?...
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kellyanne conway said alternative. i wish i had been with you. so what what was your reaction to that? i don't think i said. i was by myself in the room watching tv. don't think i said much. i just kind of watching my jaw dropped and i wasn't completely happy. i can't remember who. it was that she said it to. was it chuck todd? is it jake tapper? i wasn't happy with his response to. but if it was a jaw dropping moment, i mean, i think he laughed, actually is an interesting reaction to it because. it was such a. yeah, because it was such new concept. the idea of calling it alternative facts. i mean, people who create something for people to believe, you know, disinformation and don't often label it themselves as that. well, she was pushed was under some some pressure. you know, it's new for politics. it's not in the academy where it came from. i mean, that idea that there's no truth there's only narrative that comes from the academy that came from literary, from postmodernism and relativism. so i was already familiar with that. i just never seen i
kellyanne conway said alternative. i wish i had been with you. so what what was your reaction to that? i don't think i said. i was by myself in the room watching tv. don't think i said much. i just kind of watching my jaw dropped and i wasn't completely happy. i can't remember who. it was that she said it to. was it chuck todd? is it jake tapper? i wasn't happy with his response to. but if it was a jaw dropping moment, i mean, i think he laughed, actually is an interesting reaction to it...
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conway, people in trump's inner circle who are going to talk about exactly what was going on at that time and so we're going to have their narratives and also this case is going to rely a lot on document that's they're going to really prosecutors are going to have to really hold the jury's hand and kind of weaving together this story that is true. so any case that's dependent on documents can be a little boring because unfortunately, the defense is not stipulating to the entry of any of the documents, so there's gonna be a lot of custodian of records that have to testify to enter certain bank documents and other invoices, et cetera. into evidence can be kind of boring. but at the end of the de the records, i don't think or what is going to be in dispute. they are what they are. they say, what they say. >> it's going to boil down to what the witnesses say about the records and what what donald trump's intent was was his intent, for example, as he saying to hide information that could be embarrassing from his family that he was having a couple of affairs at the time with both karen mcd
conway, people in trump's inner circle who are going to talk about exactly what was going on at that time and so we're going to have their narratives and also this case is going to rely a lot on document that's they're going to really prosecutors are going to have to really hold the jury's hand and kind of weaving together this story that is true. so any case that's dependent on documents can be a little boring because unfortunately, the defense is not stipulating to the entry of any of the...
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that's when kellyanne conway came out. alvin bragg is trying to make this not just a payoff scheme, not just a falsify of document scheme, which is a misdemeanor. he falsified documents to interfere with the 2016 election. to make it so that women voters would not be further turned off by him. to make it so that he had a better chance in november, and that's going to bump it up to a felony if he's able to prove that. and the context around the moment is the day after the "access hollywood" came out. while the tape itself is not admissible in court, it sounds like the transcript will be. is it a major loss for alvin bragg not to have the tape but just to have the transcript? >> no. in many ways it helps for appeal that the judge is trying to -- >> don't you need to hear his voice to bring it home? >> why would it not be admissible? >> there's something called essentially rule 403, something is relevant, but the judge says it's too prejudicial, you can get the relevant par, which is the actual transcript. this is motive evid
that's when kellyanne conway came out. alvin bragg is trying to make this not just a payoff scheme, not just a falsify of document scheme, which is a misdemeanor. he falsified documents to interfere with the 2016 election. to make it so that women voters would not be further turned off by him. to make it so that he had a better chance in november, and that's going to bump it up to a felony if he's able to prove that. and the context around the moment is the day after the "access...
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conway takes us down, i'm not so sure that's going to happen, but these are gonna be people who are really close to them and problem for donald trump here is, this is a structured environment. this is not the bare knuckle political environment. there. he can't jump up and say things to this person's face. i mean, there's a gag order in place that he's violent letting the other thing that struck me today is, isn't a jarring to be reminded of what michael cohen was before he flipped. i mean, he flipped six years ago, right? it seems like not that long, but 2018 and we're being reminded that michael cohen was a no holds barred unapologetic. we hear this phrase fixer. i mean, that's an understatement to be you guys knew him? yeah. my family is still talks about being in a car when michael cohen called me on the phone and he was screaming at me so loud that they could here in the front seat, even though it was it was the phone was held to my ear. i mean, he was the he was the ultimate loyalist, but devin, i thought what's your point about, you know, he doesn't seem like a night he's pers
conway takes us down, i'm not so sure that's going to happen, but these are gonna be people who are really close to them and problem for donald trump here is, this is a structured environment. this is not the bare knuckle political environment. there. he can't jump up and say things to this person's face. i mean, there's a gag order in place that he's violent letting the other thing that struck me today is, isn't a jarring to be reminded of what michael cohen was before he flipped. i mean, he...
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conway takes us and i'm not so sure that's going to happen, but these are going be people who are really close to them and problem for donald trump here is, this is a structured environment. this is not the bare knuckle political environment. there. >> he can't jump up in sittings to this person face. >> i mean, there's a gag order in place that he's violating. the other thing that struck me today is isn't jarring to be reminded of what michael cohen was before he flipped. i mean, he flipped six years ago, right? it seems like not that one, but 2018 and we're being reminded that michael cohen was a no holds barred unapologetic. we hear this phrase fixer. i mean, that's an understatement to be revived those all right. >> you guys i knew him yeah. my family is still talks about being in a car when michael cohen called me on the phone and he was screaming at me so loud that they could here in the front seat, even though it was it was the phone was held to my ear. >> i mean, he was the he was the ultimate loyalist, but devin, i thought what your point about, you know, he doesn't seem like a
conway takes us and i'm not so sure that's going to happen, but these are going be people who are really close to them and problem for donald trump here is, this is a structured environment. this is not the bare knuckle political environment. there. >> he can't jump up in sittings to this person face. >> i mean, there's a gag order in place that he's violating. the other thing that struck me today is isn't jarring to be reminded of what michael cohen was before he flipped. i mean,...
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hope hicks six, maybe kellyanne conway, it's not totally clear it's a pretty remarkable witness list that we could be watching play out here he's rattled already. how do we know he's rattled? because lies, he's telling, right? four years ago today, this was the bleach de if you remember that, right. trump had no control over covid over the pandemic and he talked about bleach that was four years ago today. what's the lie he told today said that thousands of people are being kept out of the courthouse and out of the neighborhood because it's become a you arm the courthouse. did i was just i was there. it took an uber like a normal person got out, walked around, came over, visited all of you. it's a normal de a beautiful park in lower manhattan. and yeah, there's some police officers and they're pretty bored because nothing's going on outside. if you live in the city, come on down tomorrow, see for yourself, he's doing that thing where he lies about what you can see, what for their own eyes. and he only does that when he's really rattled. so it'd be rattled already sitting in this freez
hope hicks six, maybe kellyanne conway, it's not totally clear it's a pretty remarkable witness list that we could be watching play out here he's rattled already. how do we know he's rattled? because lies, he's telling, right? four years ago today, this was the bleach de if you remember that, right. trump had no control over covid over the pandemic and he talked about bleach that was four years ago today. what's the lie he told today said that thousands of people are being kept out of the...
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we will hear from former advisor to president trump kellyanne conway. tomorrow, c-span will be back at the court for live argument in trump versus united states, the king at whether the former president is immune from criminal prosecution for his alleged role in trying to overturn the results of the 2020 election. also this evening, a discussion with former congresswoman liz cheney and historian jon meacham on principles and politics, broadcast live from the national cathedral at 7:00 p.m. eastern. ♪ protesters also, we will take you to a different shot here as some of the people are taking to the odium. -- podium. >> abortion is health care. >> and there are people who are arguing about passing laws to let us died. we wish we were being hyperbolic. i wish i could say that we should be surprised, but right now, the state of idaho is in the courtroom arguing for the right to deny is health care. this is the moment that we are in. florida and arizona, banning nearly all access to abortion, access to contraception and ivf. now, you have anti--- >> up-to-
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dining with kellyanne conway or white house adviser at that point. the idea that this was his sort of media fixer, seems to be so cemented in terms of these days of testimony, just tell me what you think the defense even has to work with in terms of trying to either decouple the two men and their intimate bond. pecker said nothing bad about trump that i understood or heard or read, and the -- i understand he also said that trump said that mcdougal was a nice girl. >> he was. and they called her, how's our girl doing or that she's a nice girl, how is karen. they talked about her frequently. david pecker towards the end of the afternoon went under cross-examination but before he did, he talked about donald trump and was asked how does he feel about him today, and he said that he still considers him to be a mentor and a friend, and he told a story about how after the terrorist attacks at 9/11, some anthrax was sent to the "national enquirer" offices in boca raton, florida, and the offices had to be completely cleaned out. it was financially, you know, i
dining with kellyanne conway or white house adviser at that point. the idea that this was his sort of media fixer, seems to be so cemented in terms of these days of testimony, just tell me what you think the defense even has to work with in terms of trying to either decouple the two men and their intimate bond. pecker said nothing bad about trump that i understood or heard or read, and the -- i understand he also said that trump said that mcdougal was a nice girl. >> he was. and they...
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i thought of your testimony at the table when you reminded us about being at dinner with kellyanne conway and trump's interest in the karen mcdougal interview. one of things that the jury will understand is that he was lying when he said those things. talk about the significance of the c-span videos. >> there's no question he was lying. i this was part of of the impeachment material. this would be used to impeach trump, if he ever testiies. it's very, very good evidence for the prosecution to get in. i think what was interesting about this testimony with there was a lot of time wasted on procedural aspects on the rules of evidence to get these tapes in. because there's no question these tapes are authentic. they say what they say but trump made them spend like an hour trying to get this stuff into evidence. they did that also with the witness from first republic. it's like so bizarre because trump goes out there complaining i'm here stead instead of out on the campaign trail. his lawyers could have short circuited this by say we don't dispute the authenticity of the tapes. but any way, i
i thought of your testimony at the table when you reminded us about being at dinner with kellyanne conway and trump's interest in the karen mcdougal interview. one of things that the jury will understand is that he was lying when he said those things. talk about the significance of the c-span videos. >> there's no question he was lying. i this was part of of the impeachment material. this would be used to impeach trump, if he ever testiies. it's very, very good evidence for the...
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we're hearing about hope hicks, kellyanne conway, the fact that they may be -- one of the things i saw in the tweets of someone in the courtroom, normalizen, they were going to help establish that the state of mind of donald trump and the campaign was that this was damaging to them. this is in the same proximity of time that they're doing the catch and kill scheme that is underlying what jurors are going to hear about in terms of why business records were falsified. but we're also hearing the fact that they're going to hear the transcript of the tape to reinforce, look, this is what was going on including in donald trump's mind when he was making these decisions, signing these -- agreeing that he would sign these checks with a michael cohen with whom he did not have a retainer agreement but claimed that that's what they were paying. and that it was the trump organization paying part of this, that's what -- they don't have to prove that the underlying campaign finance crime was committed, but it goes to his intent that he was trying to conceal, and that's a keyword in this indictment, a
we're hearing about hope hicks, kellyanne conway, the fact that they may be -- one of the things i saw in the tweets of someone in the courtroom, normalizen, they were going to help establish that the state of mind of donald trump and the campaign was that this was damaging to them. this is in the same proximity of time that they're doing the catch and kill scheme that is underlying what jurors are going to hear about in terms of why business records were falsified. but we're also hearing the...
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that is to some extent, the case witness, kellyanne conway, but in some ways it's also to just get his attention to get trump's attention, the bigger name you have the bot, the more you're appearing in the presence on the trump says, oh, maybe i should listen to this guy. yeah, we've heard countless instances of this from people who worked inside the administration who always trying to there gain favor with trump or to be someone who could have influence on him, or to get to enrich themselves with a better job or position, whatever it was, this is kind of standard operating procedure for trump world and michael cohen clearly, as it's been famously reported now, he had this loyalty to trump. >> but what is the new york times had this amazing piece? at one point, it was a one-way street with donald trump that michael cohen really would have done anything for donald trump. what we saw, how much that reversed itself. >> you may go back to credibility for a second because elie brought up this notion of what they're going to try to do to michael cohen's credibility i think this is where davi
that is to some extent, the case witness, kellyanne conway, but in some ways it's also to just get his attention to get trump's attention, the bigger name you have the bot, the more you're appearing in the presence on the trump says, oh, maybe i should listen to this guy. yeah, we've heard countless instances of this from people who worked inside the administration who always trying to there gain favor with trump or to be someone who could have influence on him, or to get to enrich themselves...
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you could also call kellyanne conway. she was of course, ahead of the trump campaign at that time and the reason hur testimony would be significant is to talk about the access hollywood tape when it came out very close to the election, the impact it had on the campaign, the pressure they were under a particularly when it came to stories about trump's sex life. the incentive to me let me suppress those. that would be relevant to setting up the stormy daniels payments. so she's a possible witness. they could call next whole picks, also a possibility, again, intimately involved with the case campaign and involved in conversations with michael cohen and david pecker about these hush money payments. so we haven't gotten to the real heart of the case yet, but as they walk through and set it up these are two possibilities. they could also call someone that none of us have ever heard of to talk about paperwork because at the end of the day, we've got sex, so we've got politics, but really boris, this is paperwork case notable tha
you could also call kellyanne conway. she was of course, ahead of the trump campaign at that time and the reason hur testimony would be significant is to talk about the access hollywood tape when it came out very close to the election, the impact it had on the campaign, the pressure they were under a particularly when it came to stories about trump's sex life. the incentive to me let me suppress those. that would be relevant to setting up the stormy daniels payments. so she's a possible...
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but if we're talking about maybe kellyanne conway asking about something or someone who's not actually at the heart of this case, they may try to make you know, one of several objections, but we have no idea what the text message is or what has mentioned the support. so it's hard to say, we may not here because they're doing this sidebar, so i don't believe even our colleague in the courtroom can hear. >> yeah. jake, so you have the judge and trump's attorneys and prosecutors? who are going to be speaking off to the side out of earshot of the jury to talk about whatever these texts messages are that are related to american media inke, that clearly the prosecution wants to bring up. >> all right. fascinating stuff. kaitlan collins, thanks so much. elie honig would tell us about these text messages and also the process by which the prosecution is trying to introduce them through through this one witness, david? >> yes. so in order to put documents, texts in front of a jury, you have to have a witness on the stand who can say yes, that is what we say. they are those are texts that i sent
but if we're talking about maybe kellyanne conway asking about something or someone who's not actually at the heart of this case, they may try to make you know, one of several objections, but we have no idea what the text message is or what has mentioned the support. so it's hard to say, we may not here because they're doing this sidebar, so i don't believe even our colleague in the courtroom can hear. >> yeah. jake, so you have the judge and trump's attorneys and prosecutors? who are...
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kellyanne conway, hope hicks, i can provide important context for the way that campaign view the access hollywood tape, the crisis that it was though they're viewing the stories. but michael cohen as the name that we're just going to hear multiple times. and hour. >> we'll invite now the trump team is trying to address other issues that they expect to come up with. david is testimony, so they're trying to discuss right now the jury out with just the judge, what that is going to look like when david is back on the stand tomorrow and it's going to get into more of the questioning and the emails and the converse patients that he had with donald trump they're already trying to address that now before that jury testimony continues, i want to bring in adam kaufmann, who used to work in the manhattan district attorney's office. adam, thanks for being with us. so you worked there for 18 years. take us inside. you can the prosecution's thinking behind this morning to opening arguments when you hear the one you hear ports the opening arguments. what are they trying to do so thanks, anderson. >> b
kellyanne conway, hope hicks, i can provide important context for the way that campaign view the access hollywood tape, the crisis that it was though they're viewing the stories. but michael cohen as the name that we're just going to hear multiple times. and hour. >> we'll invite now the trump team is trying to address other issues that they expect to come up with. david is testimony, so they're trying to discuss right now the jury out with just the judge, what that is going to look like...
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