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we have lisa rubin at the courthouse. she's inside getting a seat right now. >>> also coming up in awe if a few minutes, we'll have chuck rosenberg, barbara mcquade, talking about the jury selection, how it'll work, and who are the key people who will be testifying in the trial, what it could mean for donald trump, the nare tratives that will be coming out of the testimony, and also the timing of all of this in the run-up to the election, how trump will use that. also, could this be dragged out in a way that it makes it to the election or goes beyond it? some say it is unlikely. of course, with donald trump, you never know. >>> let's get to the other big news over the weekend. the united states is urging israel to use caution in any response to iran's unprecedented attack over the weekend amid fears of a broader conflict emerging in the region. nbc news correspondent white house monica alba has the latest. >> reporter: president biden urging restraint as concern grows among senior officials the u.s. could be dragged into
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joining us now, former litigator and msnbc legal correspondent lisa rubin. lisa, what stood out to you yesterday in terms of the jury selection process? it seems to be on track. this judge is really trying to keep things tight. i'm also curious your reaction to donald trump's response to the day. >> you know, mika, yesterday was a combination of the stunning. sometimes, the jury proceedings are ponderous, particularly when the prospective jurors are reading their answers to the jury questionnaire. yet, at other times, as noted, it can move with lightning speed. particularly where the parties are exercising both their challenges for cause to particular jurors and what are called peremptory challenges, the chan challenges that allow to strike jurors for whatever reason whatsoever. watching them make the tactical decisions and live with the consequences were stunning to me. in particular, the defense ran out of their peremptory challenges earlier than expected. in part, because judge merchan was not generous with them in granting challenges for cause. for examp
joining us now, former litigator and msnbc legal correspondent lisa rubin. lisa, what stood out to you yesterday in terms of the jury selection process? it seems to be on track. this judge is really trying to keep things tight. i'm also curious your reaction to donald trump's response to the day. >> you know, mika, yesterday was a combination of the stunning. sometimes, the jury proceedings are ponderous, particularly when the prospective jurors are reading their answers to the jury...
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joining me now to discuss our msnbc legal correspondent lisa rubin and kush kadori. lisa, i was interested in this potential witness list, and i'm sure you were interested and more informed in following this case and deep legal expertise. who among those names stuck out to youuc as being essential? >> people are going to be talking when this trial gets under wayia about madeleine. that's because there were multiple checks. he didn't repay him in one lump sum. he repaid him over a series of months. six of the checks at least that were sent to michael cohen were signed by donald j. trump in his distinctive sharpy scrawl and at a time when he was president of the united states. you havede to ask yourself wher was donald trump when he signed those checks? the way they were formulated you can see they were computerized, generated frm some business. someone would have had to present him those checks to sign. that's where madeleine comes in. she was the key. if you wanted to communicate with trump, you had to go through her. so expect the prosecution potentially to show her
joining me now to discuss our msnbc legal correspondent lisa rubin and kush kadori. lisa, i was interested in this potential witness list, and i'm sure you were interested and more informed in following this case and deep legal expertise. who among those names stuck out to youuc as being essential? >> people are going to be talking when this trial gets under wayia about madeleine. that's because there were multiple checks. he didn't repay him in one lump sum. he repaid him over a series...
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msnbc legal correspondent lisa rubin. we'll be following your coverage, and legal analyst, danny cevallos. >>> coming up, we'll go live to capitol hill on that critical vote to congress to provide american allies with foreign aid. >>> that plus the new legislation that could lead to a ban of tiktok in the united states. >>> we'll have the very latest when "morning joe" returns in just 60 seconds. "morning joe" just 60 seconds. >>> well, president zelenskyy, it is an historic morning. i want to get your reaction to this major news. the house approving $61 billion in aid to ukraine. will you get this aid in time to make a difference? [ speaking in a global language ] >> translator: it's been so important. i want to say thanks to the congress for the bipartisan support, and i want to say thanks to speaker johnson and president biden. >> can ukraine now win this war or is the united states merely giving you enough aid to prolong this war? >> translator: thank you. i think this support will really strengthen the armed forces o
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msnbc legal correspondent lisa rubin joined us this morning. lisa, who's on the list? >> jose, there are people on the list that are not surprising at all including michael cohen and stormy daniels, the adult film star who received payments from michael cohen to keep quiet in the final days of the 2016 and former president trump is expected to repay michael cohen for those payments. that is the crime the manhattan das office has alleged but the list includes other names less expected including former white house communications director hicks, former white house secretary to former president trump madeleine wester hud and includes the attorney for stormy daniels and karen mcdougal, a playboy model who alleges she had an affair with former president trump. they are witnesses on the list too and it remains to be seen whether all of that will be called but these are important witnesses who can essentially build a scaffolding around the story michael cohen will tell about how these settlements came to be, what role he played and how he, former president trump, and allen wei
msnbc legal correspondent lisa rubin joined us this morning. lisa, who's on the list? >> jose, there are people on the list that are not surprising at all including michael cohen and stormy daniels, the adult film star who received payments from michael cohen to keep quiet in the final days of the 2016 and former president trump is expected to repay michael cohen for those payments. that is the crime the manhattan das office has alleged but the list includes other names less expected...
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andrew is a former general counsel at the fbi, lisa rubin is an embassy in b.c. legal correspondent. this is like a trove of legal brains here. you've argued more cases in front of the supreme court, you were in the court on thursday. what was the biggest take away >> most of the time when you walk out of the supreme court, you know what's going to happen. that was not true here, it was very hard to predict where the justices were lined up. this should have been an easy case. as you said at the top of the show, trump's lawyers are making bunkers arguments. and he was very erudite and collegial. if you weren't in the courtroom, it sounded like a scholarly disquisition and not persuasion. in the courtroom, i think a lot of points did land with the justices, and i think the most chilling point came at 11:55 a.m., almost two hours after the argument, he had been talking for more than an hour, he described the justices something that you are saying, this is not hypothetical, this is what the indictment says donald trump did to the justice department, pressuring the ju
andrew is a former general counsel at the fbi, lisa rubin is an embassy in b.c. legal correspondent. this is like a trove of legal brains here. you've argued more cases in front of the supreme court, you were in the court on thursday. what was the biggest take away >> most of the time when you walk out of the supreme court, you know what's going to happen. that was not true here, it was very hard to predict where the justices were lined up. this should have been an easy case. as you said...
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we'll see what happens on monday when they each flush out their cases for us. >> lisa rubin, thank you so much for your service on behalf of all of your colleagues and our viewers. thank you for joining us. miles, it's extraordinary this is where we are. to lisa's last point there, the facts are established by trump's own justice department. trump's individual one and michael cohen's sentencing memo it feels like some of this is sort of getting back to established facts that have never been in dispute. >> it is getting back to established facts. and in keeping with lisa's lyrical references today, you'd look at this case and say this guy is down bad. there are 34 counts against him. it would appear that he's guilty as sin, but at the moment, he's out of the slammer and justice doesn't happen in a fortnight. we're going to see starting monday, the tortured poetry of his attorneys. but joking aside, i think the facts have been long established and we can see that in the case. the 34 counts go far beyond just the stormy daniels case. there was a catch and kill conspiracy here timed around
we'll see what happens on monday when they each flush out their cases for us. >> lisa rubin, thank you so much for your service on behalf of all of your colleagues and our viewers. thank you for joining us. miles, it's extraordinary this is where we are. to lisa's last point there, the facts are established by trump's own justice department. trump's individual one and michael cohen's sentencing memo it feels like some of this is sort of getting back to established facts that have never...
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. >> reporter: right, there are two pieces at play here, our colleague lisa rubin, who is inside that courtroom, she brings up the point that what the prosecution by presenting some of this evidence to the judge of what they want to be admitted as evidence before a jury, what they are revealing is that they want to prove to jurors that there is a consciousness of guilt on the part of donald trump, as part of a pressure campaign on michael cohen to not flip against him. of course it was only in january of 2018 in which the wall street journal first broke the story about the payments to stormy daniels. it was in those months that followed in which michael cohen and donald trump's relationship frayed, and there were two pieces of evidence that the prosecution wants to present to the juries to show that donald trump was fearful about michael cohen presenting to authorities evidence and testimony against him. and number one of those was actually from robert mueller, a special counsel report in which a trump allied lawyer, robert costello emailed michael cohen the following at the time, quo
. >> reporter: right, there are two pieces at play here, our colleague lisa rubin, who is inside that courtroom, she brings up the point that what the prosecution by presenting some of this evidence to the judge of what they want to be admitted as evidence before a jury, what they are revealing is that they want to prove to jurors that there is a consciousness of guilt on the part of donald trump, as part of a pressure campaign on michael cohen to not flip against him. of course it was...
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joining us at the table, as she does most days, msnbc legal correspondent lisa rubin. >> nicole, how are you? >> tell me what this was about. >> we're in a universe where we're dealing with motions that were filed this week to derail the trial. we've been talking about potentially recusing the judge, for example, this is a motion that feels like it was filed a lifetime ago but in actuality was filed on march 7th. just a week after the supreme court granted cert, or review of the immunity decision before judge chutkan then. trump went before the judge and said because the supreme court is going to consider whether they presidential immunity argument is valid you should postpone this trial, and so the supreme court can rule on that, and also, you should hold that the state here, meaning manhattan da's office should not be able to introduce evidence of my official acts that might be evidence in this trial, including, for example, tweets that i sent that they say were efforts to intimidate witnesses in the case, namely michael cohen. the judge deciding today, trump's motion was not timel
joining us at the table, as she does most days, msnbc legal correspondent lisa rubin. >> nicole, how are you? >> tell me what this was about. >> we're in a universe where we're dealing with motions that were filed this week to derail the trial. we've been talking about potentially recusing the judge, for example, this is a motion that feels like it was filed a lifetime ago but in actuality was filed on march 7th. just a week after the supreme court granted cert, or review of...
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joining me now to discuss our nbc msnbc legal correspondent lisa rubin and -- former federal prosecutor in and political magazine. thank you for being here. lisa i was very interested in this potential witness list. i'm sure you were even more interested in more informed. given your following of the case in your deeply expertise. who among those names stuck out to you as being sort of essential to the prosecution's case? >> people are going to be talking with this trial gets underway about madeline --. that is because when donald trump engaged his repayment michael cohen there are multiple checks. he did not repay him in one lump sum. we paid him over a series of months. six of the checks at least that was sent to michael cohen were signed by donald j trump and his distinctive scroll. and at a time when he was president of them by the states. you have to ask where was donald trump when he signed those checks? does he have a checkbook on the resolute desk? the weight they are formulated you can see they are computerized generated from some business. somebody had to have presented him wit
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msnbc's lisa rubin who was inside the courthouse for the sentencing joins us now, and also with us criminal defense attorney danny cevallos, and glenn kirschner. weisselberg already served 100 days for dodging taxes. now he's headed back to rikers. fill us in. >> so ana, when allen weisselberg arrived at court this morning, you could tell how the rest of the morning was going to go, and that's because he showed up in what can only be described as athleisure. when a defendant shows up in something other than a suit, he's expected to be immediately remanded or taken into custody, and that's indeed what happened with allen weisselberg. the whole proceeding lasted a matter of minutes, and as soon as allen weisselberg told the judge he had nothing to say, the d.a. said they weren't going to deviate from the promised five months in the plea agreement. allen weisselberg was immediately handcuffed by two members of the court officers here and taken through a back entrance where presumably he was placed in the car and taken into custody. >> so danny, weisselberg was employed, we know, for 50 years b
msnbc's lisa rubin who was inside the courthouse for the sentencing joins us now, and also with us criminal defense attorney danny cevallos, and glenn kirschner. weisselberg already served 100 days for dodging taxes. now he's headed back to rikers. fill us in. >> so ana, when allen weisselberg arrived at court this morning, you could tell how the rest of the morning was going to go, and that's because he showed up in what can only be described as athleisure. when a defendant shows up in...
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. >> our colleague lisa rubin has described the role that you are likely to play in this file as a witness but more of a narrator, more of a tour guide with other people stepping in, documents that will support what you are saying. how do you see your role in this upcoming trial question >> the same way as lisa. just because the media wants to put, what to for training as a key witness, i don't care what they call me. i am the narrator of the story. the narrator to the story that is going to be explaining the documentary evidence as well as the corroborating testimony. one of the things donald and his legal team are trying to do is every day is to discredit me. they think that that is a winning strategy for getting and overturn of whatever conviction a jury may or may not determine. that is not the way you run a trial. have your own defense. the defense is not to attack the witness but that is what they think is going to be the successful result for them. >> let's pick up on that attacking the witness because it is part of the overarching narrative. i've made this point, as many have, that
. >> our colleague lisa rubin has described the role that you are likely to play in this file as a witness but more of a narrator, more of a tour guide with other people stepping in, documents that will support what you are saying. how do you see your role in this upcoming trial question >> the same way as lisa. just because the media wants to put, what to for training as a key witness, i don't care what they call me. i am the narrator of the story. the narrator to the story that is...
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. >> lisa rubin joins us as well. it's good to have you. let me ask you about the tone with cannon responded to jack smith. how did her ruling read on paper? >> begrudging and it's not the first time we have seen this either. she had a prior order in which she denied a motion to dismiss on counts 1 through 32 about the willful, unauthorized holding of classified or national defense information, they said those charges were unconstitutionally vague. judge cannon denied the motion it dismiss. i would say the tone of the ruling is similar to the one here where she's saying the government, i'm going to give you what i want, but i don't want to. she took a number of swipes at them, telling them, for example, you didn't follow local procedural rules or had a number of arguments you should have made in the first instance. in the end, she did what government wanted and kept those witness names secret. >> tim, why does it matter, why are we reading into her tone, looking into what she says in these filings? >> there's been real contention, some of t
. >> lisa rubin joins us as well. it's good to have you. let me ask you about the tone with cannon responded to jack smith. how did her ruling read on paper? >> begrudging and it's not the first time we have seen this either. she had a prior order in which she denied a motion to dismiss on counts 1 through 32 about the willful, unauthorized holding of classified or national defense information, they said those charges were unconstitutionally vague. judge cannon denied the motion it...
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joining us now, garrett haake and lisa rubin. so, garrett, the gag order was expanded after donald trump was going after judge merchan's daughter. how is the trump team reacting? >> they argued it's unconstitutional, political speech by donald trump. the most protected form of political speech and that any effort to curtail anything he might say, particularly in advance of his trial, is prior restraint and is unconstitutional. the whole thing ought to be thrown out. i think there's also some tension here between trump's lawyers who would probably like him to say less about all this and trump himself who seems almost personally inclined to test the limits of gag orders on what he can say at any time. two weeks really between now and when the trial starts is a lot of time for him to test those fences. >> does he just see any potential consequences as politically expedient for him? >> i think whether it's a fine or the names of jurors being withheld from him, which is one of the things that's been laid out by judge merchan as a cons
joining us now, garrett haake and lisa rubin. so, garrett, the gag order was expanded after donald trump was going after judge merchan's daughter. how is the trump team reacting? >> they argued it's unconstitutional, political speech by donald trump. the most protected form of political speech and that any effort to curtail anything he might say, particularly in advance of his trial, is prior restraint and is unconstitutional. the whole thing ought to be thrown out. i think there's also...
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. >>> as we all digest jack smith brief to the supreme court, thanks to lisa rubin and sherrilyn ifill. we also heard from high-ranking military officials who issued a dire warning in an amicus brief filed with the corporate those officials include generals and admirals as well as former secretaries of the army, navy, and air force who served this country under presidents of both parties, john f. kennedy up to donald trump himself. together they argued the presidential immunity for criminal prosecution would threaten the military's role in american society. our americans constitutional border and our national security. they say that immunizing the president would place service members in the impossible position of having to choose between following their commander in chief and obeying the laws enacted by congress. and they warned it would jeopardize america's standing as it guardian of democracy in the world. it is a very powerfully written document. joining me now, former secretary of the army, lewis caldera who is the chief signatory on the amicus brief. sherrilyn ifill is back with
. >>> as we all digest jack smith brief to the supreme court, thanks to lisa rubin and sherrilyn ifill. we also heard from high-ranking military officials who issued a dire warning in an amicus brief filed with the corporate those officials include generals and admirals as well as former secretaries of the army, navy, and air force who served this country under presidents of both parties, john f. kennedy up to donald trump himself. together they argued the presidential immunity for...
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lisa rubin predicted that and outlined why that would be the case. there's ongoing reporting and speculation about trump testifying. it seems like a disaster, as a nonlawyer, but explain to us what the prosecution may be thinking, if it's trump wanting to do it himself, what the impact could be if he decided to testify and they decided to have him do that. >> everyone should know the defendant, and a defendant like trump does not have to testify. the jury will be told that. that's true of any defendant. he has a right to testify regardless of what his lawyers are strongly advised and i am confident that they will throw their bodies in front of the witness stand, trying to get him not to take the stand and if you are the prosecutors, you are licking your chops, thinking fine, you want to take the stand? great. the amount of cross-examination material, as you know, from having watched him and covered him, is, you know, thousands and thousands and thousands of prior inconsistent statements, that the polite way of saying lie, prior bad acts. he is taking
lisa rubin predicted that and outlined why that would be the case. there's ongoing reporting and speculation about trump testifying. it seems like a disaster, as a nonlawyer, but explain to us what the prosecution may be thinking, if it's trump wanting to do it himself, what the impact could be if he decided to testify and they decided to have him do that. >> everyone should know the defendant, and a defendant like trump does not have to testify. the jury will be told that. that's true of...
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that's the analysis from lisa rubin who's in the courthouse. we were covering trump and this moment of the access hollywood tape in october of 2016, it looked like it was the end for the campaign and a remeender to cohen comes to an agreement with davidson for the story a day after it drops. cohen says he came to this agreement on october 8th. >> reporter: we knew coming into this it was american media, the national enquirer, that it tipped michael cohen off about the daniels story. that's what the text messages that you just read ultimately show here. and these two men sort of acknowledging that this was it for donald trump. his campaign was all but over here at point but that is where we know from david pecker's testimony that he made it clear that this time around, american media, they weren't going pay for another story. so that's where we begin to watch the scrambling in those day that is follow where michael cohen reinserts himself into this ultimately figure out how to pay them through michael cohen. that's where we have the testimony fr
that's the analysis from lisa rubin who's in the courthouse. we were covering trump and this moment of the access hollywood tape in october of 2016, it looked like it was the end for the campaign and a remeender to cohen comes to an agreement with davidson for the story a day after it drops. cohen says he came to this agreement on october 8th. >> reporter: we knew coming into this it was american media, the national enquirer, that it tipped michael cohen off about the daniels story....
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lisa rubin is a former litigator, now msnbc legal correspondent and they join me now. let me start with you, lisa, just on the appeals, then i'll come to you. again i have to keep checking in with myself because i've been through so many of these. the trial is very likely to start monday. what could possibly happen to make it not start? >> put that in three buckets for you. there are motions that are still pending with judge marchand that could delay the trial, once for pretrial publicity, which we have discussed because much of that is of trump's own making but he says the trial should be adjourned on that basis. there is also this pending motion for judge recusal which could also delay the trial . then there are motions to the appellate court which including the one that was argued today. even though a single judge of that court said while you appealed this gag order, i will not grant you an interim stay. you can argue that to a full panel of this court, those briefs are due monday, the same day we are scheduled to start jury selection. he also is continuing to ask f
lisa rubin is a former litigator, now msnbc legal correspondent and they join me now. let me start with you, lisa, just on the appeals, then i'll come to you. again i have to keep checking in with myself because i've been through so many of these. the trial is very likely to start monday. what could possibly happen to make it not start? >> put that in three buckets for you. there are motions that are still pending with judge marchand that could delay the trial, once for pretrial...
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rubin describes as more like a beatup underresourced teacher's lounge than a courtroom. >>> a new poll puts data behind trump's increasing desperation to put off the trial. look at these numbers, 64% of registered voters say the charges are either very or somewhat serious, including 40% of republicans and more than two-thirds of independents, and if he's convicted of a felony by election day, 24% of republicans and 13% of current trump voters say they would not vote for him. nbc's garrett haake is following all of this from washington. joyce vance is a former u.s. attorney, law professor at the university of alabama, and an msnbc legal analyst. jim messina was white house deputy chief of staff under president obama and ran his 2012 campaign. good to have all of you here. garrett, break down this potential witness list for us. >> chris, the bold-faced names won't be surprising. start with michael cohen at the very top of this list, the person who allegedly orchestrated all of these hush money payments and the two women who he orchestrated them for, stormy daniels and karen mcdougal. you
rubin describes as more like a beatup underresourced teacher's lounge than a courtroom. >>> a new poll puts data behind trump's increasing desperation to put off the trial. look at these numbers, 64% of registered voters say the charges are either very or somewhat serious, including 40% of republicans and more than two-thirds of independents, and if he's convicted of a felony by election day, 24% of republicans and 13% of current trump voters say they would not vote for him. nbc's...
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rubin, both have been inside the courthouse during the trial, catherine christian, former assistant district attorney for the manhattan d.a.'s office, she is also an msnbc legal analyst, and former republican congressman carlos curbelo from florida, an msnbc political analyst. so, lisa, what do we know about the seven jurors who have already been selected? >> jose, they're a cross section of new yorkers. we have got two attorneys on the jury, we got two residents of harlem, we have an oncology nurse, a salesperson, a teacher, and a software engineer. one of the things i find notable is that several of the jurors are young, appear to be in the early stages of their career, for example, one of them said that a year and a half ago, before they started the job that they're in now, they were in college and so we can infer from that the person is in their 20s. the other thing that i find interesting about these folks is that none of them have small children at home. that may be in part because at the very beginning of jury selection, judge merchan said that anybody who was unable to serve
rubin, both have been inside the courthouse during the trial, catherine christian, former assistant district attorney for the manhattan d.a.'s office, she is also an msnbc legal analyst, and former republican congressman carlos curbelo from florida, an msnbc political analyst. so, lisa, what do we know about the seven jurors who have already been selected? >> jose, they're a cross section of new yorkers. we have got two attorneys on the jury, we got two residents of harlem, we have an...
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one other note, chris, that i got from laura jarrett who's in the overflow room along with lisa rubin as well, is that trump has been more animated during this process and when they went to kind of their corners and then subsequently lunch breaked to figure out who would be struck, it seemed as if the former president was very involved in that process as he was in the judge kaplin case. to just things to keep in mind and part of the process. really, this is the process working. >> all right, we may come back to you. thank you very much for that. joining me now, christie greenberg, former federal prosecutor and msnbc legal analyst. i find this fascinating and here's why. we know they have a limited number of strikes that they can use, right, so you're very early in this process. that some accounts may take not just the rest of this week, but potentially next week. so you have a juror in new york city where frankly 90% of people almost are democrats or consider themselves to be leaning in that direction, right? and 2020 election comes, many were very upset when hillary clinton lost. and
one other note, chris, that i got from laura jarrett who's in the overflow room along with lisa rubin as well, is that trump has been more animated during this process and when they went to kind of their corners and then subsequently lunch breaked to figure out who would be struck, it seemed as if the former president was very involved in that process as he was in the judge kaplin case. to just things to keep in mind and part of the process. really, this is the process working. >> all...
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rubin, she has just come out of the courtroom forest. >> the courtroom that we are in on the 15th floor here is one of the more dreary places i've ever been in a courthouse. it is woodpaneled, but it has no hearts whatsoever. there are more courts than there are anything else, stapled to the wall point the one thing that is says in this courtroom very clearly is in god we trust and get that very pedestrian dreary courtroom is where something really extraordinary happened this afternoon because judge rochon had to go through the failings of three motion letters that the defense has buried him under and most of them are about things that have already been litigated and if not litigated once they have been litigated twice so setting his rulings on things like whether or not evidence can be precluded on grounds of presidential immunity, for example. he said, and i am reading from my notes, you cannot continue to submit three motion letters asking to revisit every ruling. interchange the motions and good faith at some point you have to accept this courts rulings, or having opening statements
rubin, she has just come out of the courtroom forest. >> the courtroom that we are in on the 15th floor here is one of the more dreary places i've ever been in a courthouse. it is woodpaneled, but it has no hearts whatsoever. there are more courts than there are anything else, stapled to the wall point the one thing that is says in this courtroom very clearly is in god we trust and get that very pedestrian dreary courtroom is where something really extraordinary happened this afternoon...
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. >> let me go back to the scene for just a minute because lisa rubin it has occurred to me that honestly anybody who has been to the scene of a fire, most journalists, i imagine have at one time or another, this is not the kind of incident where emts come in, they take the person that's hurt and take them away, so i want to sort of get the lay of the land right now, what you'regh seeing, what you're hearing, what maybe you're smelling. >> as we look out, chris, beyond our camera, we can see an increased police presence, the side street along the row where the cameras are set up is increasingly filled with more and more police, people are milling about in the street, there are law enforcement officers, that was an empty street where only press was allowed to transgress. right now on the opposite side of the park, you can see a growing police presence andou t park is taped off as you're showing right now, but the thing that i'm struck by, having not covered a fire previously as you well know. i'm not a traditional journalist. i'm an ex-lawyer and baby journalist, is the smell here, and it
. >> let me go back to the scene for just a minute because lisa rubin it has occurred to me that honestly anybody who has been to the scene of a fire, most journalists, i imagine have at one time or another, this is not the kind of incident where emts come in, they take the person that's hurt and take them away, so i want to sort of get the lay of the land right now, what you'regh seeing, what you're hearing, what maybe you're smelling. >> as we look out, chris, beyond our camera,...
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and msnbc legal correspondent lisa rubin joins me now on set. anybody who read this, the judge didn't mince words, even just rejecting trump's legal team's argument, i think he pretty much made mince meat of it, saying it is obvious to anyone who listens to trump's remarks that they pose a threat. so, i wonder what you make of not just the judge's order, but the way he framed it. >> first of all, to your point, he's not mincing words. i've never seen or rarely have i seen a judge do so much in so few pages. this is only a five-page order, but the words chosen are careful and precise and when i read it, i went, whoa, last night. but, the other thing that i think is important to see here is that judge merchan is drawing a connection between the attacks on his daughter and, for example, attacks on d.a. bragg's family, and what that signals to anybody else who could find themselves a participant in that proceeding. and that's why he says that future violations will be met with sanctions including criminal contempt, which can mean up to 30 days in pr
and msnbc legal correspondent lisa rubin joins me now on set. anybody who read this, the judge didn't mince words, even just rejecting trump's legal team's argument, i think he pretty much made mince meat of it, saying it is obvious to anyone who listens to trump's remarks that they pose a threat. so, i wonder what you make of not just the judge's order, but the way he framed it. >> first of all, to your point, he's not mincing words. i've never seen or rarely have i seen a judge do so...
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and joining us now, msnbc's legal correspondent, lisa rubin, and criminal defense attorney and nbc cevallos. this was one of trump's last ditch efforts to try to delay this trial. what's the judge saying about why it's a no go? >> it's a no go, ana, principally because it's late. he's basically saying you have known that you might have had grounds for a presidential immunity motion for many, many months, and not only did you not do it, by the statutory deadline for pretrial motions but at various other junctures in the case when you could have raised it, you didn't do it then. you didn't even do it within a number of days after the supreme court granted sert in the presidential immunity question. you waited even eight days after that, so this is being rejected as untimely. but the judge notes this is yet one of many attempts to delay the start date of the trial, and he -- you know, he takes a little bit of a swipe at the defense about that noting this is not exactly the first time they've tried something like this. >> and so, danny, jury selection's about to get underway in about a week and
and joining us now, msnbc's legal correspondent, lisa rubin, and criminal defense attorney and nbc cevallos. this was one of trump's last ditch efforts to try to delay this trial. what's the judge saying about why it's a no go? >> it's a no go, ana, principally because it's late. he's basically saying you have known that you might have had grounds for a presidential immunity motion for many, many months, and not only did you not do it, by the statutory deadline for pretrial motions but at...
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and one other note here, as we work our way through the process, lisa rubin informed us from inside the courtroom, that donald trump is, again, throughout moments been closing his eyes and it is not apparent whether he's sleeping or not, but resting his eyes through this jury selection process. but, this continues, we're now at officially ten individuals who have passed the questionnaire and not been dismissed. so we're making the process. once we get to 18, that's when the voir dire process begins in further examination of those jurors will commence. >> thank you so much for the update, vaughn hillyard, outside that manhattan courthouse. >>> turning to a couple of breaking news stories we're following on capitol hill, another republican lawmaker has announced he is joining congresswoman marjorie taylor greene who is looking to oust house speaker mike johnson from his speakership if he moves forward with funding for ukraine. and nbc's ali vitali is following it all for us from capitol hill. ali, who is now saying that they'll support this motion to vacate and how is speaker johnson resp
and one other note here, as we work our way through the process, lisa rubin informed us from inside the courtroom, that donald trump is, again, throughout moments been closing his eyes and it is not apparent whether he's sleeping or not, but resting his eyes through this jury selection process. but, this continues, we're now at officially ten individuals who have passed the questionnaire and not been dismissed. so we're making the process. once we get to 18, that's when the voir dire process...
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let's bring former litigator lisa rubin and former u.s. attorney and msnbc contributor chuck rosenberg. good morning. lisa, you are in the overflow room yesterday. watching all of this, keeping track of donald trump's facial gestures and perhaps nodding off. what was your big takeaway from yesterday, day one? >> the big takeaway is this is a crime about falsification of business records. yet, what the government seems to have the most evidence of is of the underlying conspiracy. what still is unknown to me is how they are going to prove donald trump's own involvement in the falsification of the business records with which he has been charged. we heard a lot of views of the evidence of the construction of the conspiracy, who was involved in it, who will place donald trump the knowledge and intent to commit election-related crimes. what i didn't hear as much about is how donald trump then directed the cover-up thereafter. there is a 2017 office meeting between donald trump and michael cohen where the prosecution says they cemented the repaym
let's bring former litigator lisa rubin and former u.s. attorney and msnbc contributor chuck rosenberg. good morning. lisa, you are in the overflow room yesterday. watching all of this, keeping track of donald trump's facial gestures and perhaps nodding off. what was your big takeaway from yesterday, day one? >> the big takeaway is this is a crime about falsification of business records. yet, what the government seems to have the most evidence of is of the underlying conspiracy. what...
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. >> i want to bring in msnbc legal correspondent lisa rubin and investigative reporter sue craig who have been in the courtroom overflow all morning where members of the press can listen, can watch what's going on, because there obviously is limited space inside the courtroom. i want to pick up on that conversation if i can, lisa, because you actually wrote about this in our google document about how fast michael cohen tried to push through thisn the false representations he made in related paper work. what does that tell us about the urgency? >> that cohen had a ton of urgency and yet from first republic's perspective, there was nothing new or awry going on here because of two reasons. one is they knew michael cohen. michael cohen was a person to whom everything was urgent as gary farro testified. the other reason they didn't see anything awry is because they knew that michael cohen was in the real estate business. when he set up essential consultants llc, he said he was establishing a real estate consultancy. that's exactly what happened here with michael cohen on october 26, 2016,
. >> i want to bring in msnbc legal correspondent lisa rubin and investigative reporter sue craig who have been in the courtroom overflow all morning where members of the press can listen, can watch what's going on, because there obviously is limited space inside the courtroom. i want to pick up on that conversation if i can, lisa, because you actually wrote about this in our google document about how fast michael cohen tried to push through thisn the false representations he made in...
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he wants to know how this is -- i'm now reading lisa rubin is messaging us in real time. judge merchan demands to know the most recent attack to which trump was responding, blanche does not have facility with the statements to the extent they exist. and judge merchan is losing his patience, accusing blanche of not answering his questions. so we're just three social media posts through the ten and judge merchan clearly frustrated with the attorney for donald trump's lack of ability to articulate on behalf of his own client his intention with those social media statements. >> okay, thanks for that, vaughn. come back to us with new highlights as you get them. danny, let's look ahead as we're anticipating the first witness to return to the stand later this morning. we're expecting maybe around 11:00 depending when the gag order hearing wraps up. david pecker will be back. he spoke for about 30 minutes or so in testimony yesterday after those opening statements. anything that stuck out to you and just how important is he to this case? >> david pecker may in fact be the people'
he wants to know how this is -- i'm now reading lisa rubin is messaging us in real time. judge merchan demands to know the most recent attack to which trump was responding, blanche does not have facility with the statements to the extent they exist. and judge merchan is losing his patience, accusing blanche of not answering his questions. so we're just three social media posts through the ten and judge merchan clearly frustrated with the attorney for donald trump's lack of ability to articulate...
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rubin inside, said pecker was hesitant in responding, but said yes. this was a long-standing relationship dating back to the '90s that donald trump and david pecker had, and that this was also just par for the course for the way that american media and the "national enquirer" operated, that they would obviously run negative stories about other republican candidates and the clintons, because, frankly, it was good for their business and it turned cover stories that allowed them to sell papers. >> vaughn, thank you for the update. john, how do you see the defense strategy working here? what are they trying to do? >> i think they're trying to have it both ways. i think they're trying to make nice with david pecker, and they're going to do the obvious. they're going to challenge his memory. they're going to point out that he has a non-prosecution agreement so he has a motive to not go against the prosecution, but i think what they want to do is bring this back to michael cohen as much as they possibly can, and example after example, they're just getting st
rubin inside, said pecker was hesitant in responding, but said yes. this was a long-standing relationship dating back to the '90s that donald trump and david pecker had, and that this was also just par for the course for the way that american media and the "national enquirer" operated, that they would obviously run negative stories about other republican candidates and the clintons, because, frankly, it was good for their business and it turned cover stories that allowed them to sell...
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rubin, and msnbc contributor, and "new york times" investigative correspondent sue craig. both inside to watch the proceedings. let me ask you first, and obviously were you aware inside of what was happening outside? >> right at the end, chris, we became aware. so there was a little bit in the overflow courtroom that we had, in fact, picked a jury of six jurors and six alternates. there started to be murmuring that there wassome who outside the courthouse has essentially self-emulated. i was sent video from one of our nbc news colleagues and as other people in the courtrooman saw their own footage, there began to be gasps and a hush fell over the crowd, so we were aware of the incident outside the courthouse. just at the very t last moments before coming out and coming to see you. this is obviously a much different conversation than i think sue and i anticipated we would be having with you, even as recently as five minutes ago, chris. >> you know, right as we learned that they had a jury, right, that the jury was impanelled, that's exactly the moment it started tot spread
rubin, and msnbc contributor, and "new york times" investigative correspondent sue craig. both inside to watch the proceedings. let me ask you first, and obviously were you aware inside of what was happening outside? >> right at the end, chris, we became aware. so there was a little bit in the overflow courtroom that we had, in fact, picked a jury of six jurors and six alternates. there started to be murmuring that there wassome who outside the courthouse has essentially...
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we bring in suzanne craig alongside lisa rubin. you guys were both in the courthouse. tell us what it was like to see donald trump as he is in the hearing portion of this pretrial scenario that we find ourselves in. what was he like? was he staying awake the whole time, for instance? >> reporter: well, it's a great question. at one point when i was watching it, i thought i've now watched three court proceedings where i've seen him and i thought at one point, i've never seen him more alert. he was watching the government lawyer arguing, conferring with his lawyers. then around noon, everything changed. and he looked like he was nodding off and at one point in a pretty true tell that he was falling asleep, his head nodded down and then he sort of jolted back up at one point. that was sort of, after several hours we has been in court, so i would say he's oscillated between being quite alert and asleep. >> what do you think is the most part -- >> for my part -- >> i was going to ask what the most observation you made. >> i think the most important observation is how prepar
we bring in suzanne craig alongside lisa rubin. you guys were both in the courthouse. tell us what it was like to see donald trump as he is in the hearing portion of this pretrial scenario that we find ourselves in. what was he like? was he staying awake the whole time, for instance? >> reporter: well, it's a great question. at one point when i was watching it, i thought i've now watched three court proceedings where i've seen him and i thought at one point, i've never seen him more...
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let's bring in lisa rubin and former u.s. attorney and msnbc contributor barbara mcquaid. lisa, clearly the judge yesterday very frustrated had enough of the argument from the defense team that donald trump doesn't mean to be posting these things but somehow he's not posting the whole article so it's not bad. where do you think this is finding in. >> a finding on contempt. with what remedy. at this point the d.a.'s office was very clear, they're not seeking any term in jail for trump, one of two alternatives under the criminal contempt statute here in new york. expect to see a written opinion by judge merchand. one of things that the d.a.'s office pointed out that was really savvy was to show in addition to these offensive posts trump has talked about the gag order including a video he posted to truth social fairly recently. saying trump knows exactly what he can and cannot do under the gag order. he's posted about the judge, about the process as a whole as he understands full well, don't flout the gag order. again, expect to see a written opinion from the judge in the nex
let's bring in lisa rubin and former u.s. attorney and msnbc contributor barbara mcquaid. lisa, clearly the judge yesterday very frustrated had enough of the argument from the defense team that donald trump doesn't mean to be posting these things but somehow he's not posting the whole article so it's not bad. where do you think this is finding in. >> a finding on contempt. with what remedy. at this point the d.a.'s office was very clear, they're not seeking any term in jail for trump, one...
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joining us now msnbc legal correspondent lisa rubin, "new york times" investigative reporter suzanne craig, nbc national law enforcement and intelligence correspondent tom winter, lisa and tom were inside the courtroom. sue was in the overflow room set up for reporters to observe the proceedings and joining us here at the table is former manhattan district attorney catherine christian. catherine and sue susan are msnbc contributors. we also have andrew weissmann still with us. lisa, i do want to begin with you and talk to you about what has been happening inside the courtroom today. we've been in supreme court hearings, oral arguments all day, so the attention has not been focused inside this courtroom, but as i understand it, david pecker has been revelatory. it's been a very interesting day for the prosecution, and they just went to break on news that pecker said that he believed what donald trump was trying to do, the stories that he was trying to get buried and not have -- not see the light of day were not for the benefit of protecting his family but as david pecker says for the
joining us now msnbc legal correspondent lisa rubin, "new york times" investigative reporter suzanne craig, nbc national law enforcement and intelligence correspondent tom winter, lisa and tom were inside the courtroom. sue was in the overflow room set up for reporters to observe the proceedings and joining us here at the table is former manhattan district attorney catherine christian. catherine and sue susan are msnbc contributors. we also have andrew weissmann still with us. lisa, i...
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let's bring in foreign litigator and msnbc legal krojt correspondent lisa rubin. has he broken him down? >> in spirit, not little. the judge himself and his family mens will coveraged with this tape. i think they have probably not the better of the feemt up hero. on the other hand should it apply to justice mer schon and district attorney alvin bragg, it probably should. but asking for confirmation or clarity, what the d.a.'s office is trying to do is promote a lengthy briefing. they want the judge to say it covers her already. >> lisa, we watch you report all the time how trump continues to cross the line. you're saying it's fuzzy. they're saying he's going to spend a day in the clink. he's making a mockery out of it. >> he is. i will say it's a huge problem, donnie, because we need a single judge to be willing to put themselves out there and to implement those rules. so, first of all, he's not yet violated the gag order. in order for someone to say he's crossed the line, there has to be a line he formally and league lis particularly crosses the line. however, on
let's bring in foreign litigator and msnbc legal krojt correspondent lisa rubin. has he broken him down? >> in spirit, not little. the judge himself and his family mens will coveraged with this tape. i think they have probably not the better of the feemt up hero. on the other hand should it apply to justice mer schon and district attorney alvin bragg, it probably should. but asking for confirmation or clarity, what the d.a.'s office is trying to do is promote a lengthy briefing. they want...
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msnbc legal correspondent lisa rubin was in the courtroom today. lisa, we don't have a proper transcript yet, so we're piecing it together from everyone's fingers. the way we pieced that together was it true to the flow it felt like in the court proceedings today? >> it was true to what it felt like, but there were also a number of explicit moments. to my mind the biggest thing was pecker's admission he understood that the payment to karen mcdougal was an unlawful campaign contribution, and he understood that in realtime, not after the fact. how did he come to understand that, because of his own entanglement with arnold shwarzenegger who was then running for governor in california, and he had a catch and kill scheme of his own with arnold shwarzenegger. the owner of those magazines said before we close this deal and i really want to sell to you, you've got to talk to arnold. arnold said to him i'd like to serve as an editor at large for you and continue my conversations with the magazines which has been lucrat chb for the magazines, but in exchange
msnbc legal correspondent lisa rubin was in the courtroom today. lisa, we don't have a proper transcript yet, so we're piecing it together from everyone's fingers. the way we pieced that together was it true to the flow it felt like in the court proceedings today? >> it was true to what it felt like, but there were also a number of explicit moments. to my mind the biggest thing was pecker's admission he understood that the payment to karen mcdougal was an unlawful campaign contribution,...
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i want to bring in msnbc legal correspondent lisa rubin and msnbc contributor and "new york times" investigative journalist suzanne craig. both are at the courthouse for us. you guys have been so amazing since the beginning of this. it's only a week ago. hard to believe. giving us what you thought were the key impressions. what's your big takeaway here today, lisa? >> there's a bunch of them. chris, sue and i were sitting here listening to rachel talk with you about her impressions. it want to underscore a couple things she said. first of all, the prosecution's opening statement was, as she said, tight, scripted, chronological, methodical in its narrative. the defense was sort of anything but, a bunch of themes tied together very loosely, not presented in any particular order. part of that is to be expected. as the defense you're looking to rebut some of what you've heard from the prosecution. it also speaks to the particular experiences of the lawyers involved. todd blanche who represents former president trump sheer a career former prosecutor. he spent nine years in the southern district of ne
i want to bring in msnbc legal correspondent lisa rubin and msnbc contributor and "new york times" investigative journalist suzanne craig. both are at the courthouse for us. you guys have been so amazing since the beginning of this. it's only a week ago. hard to believe. giving us what you thought were the key impressions. what's your big takeaway here today, lisa? >> there's a bunch of them. chris, sue and i were sitting here listening to rachel talk with you about her...
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luckily joining us is lisa rubin at the trial. i understand part of your sacrifice was allowing me to be in the courtroom in a seat you would have otherwise had your butt in. i bequeath to you back to you your seat. >> thank you i think. so it was was weird not because of one objection but how many there were relative to the brevity of tom blanche's opening statement. let's start with the fact tom blanche was an experienced prosecutor in the southern district of new york. what he's not is an experienced defense lawyer. we learned today from the magazine it confirmed something i suspected. tom blanche has tried one trial as a defense counsel in the last decade. if you were in that courtroom you probably would have expected as much because his flow was interrupted so many times by these sidebars. i think a number of things he did today were perfectly intentional. because while they were objected to and sustained he still planted the seeds of doubt in jurors mind. in particular, for example, he said stormy daniels made donald trump a
luckily joining us is lisa rubin at the trial. i understand part of your sacrifice was allowing me to be in the courtroom in a seat you would have otherwise had your butt in. i bequeath to you back to you your seat. >> thank you i think. so it was was weird not because of one objection but how many there were relative to the brevity of tom blanche's opening statement. let's start with the fact tom blanche was an experienced prosecutor in the southern district of new york. what he's not is...
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former litigator and legal correspondent lisa rubin is here. along with former u.s. attorney and msnbc contributor chuck rosenberg. good morning. good to see you both. there's a lot there. let's start at the beginning. we'll take these in order as mika went through them. start with the bid, the trump team's bid to delay the trial, which has been the strategy across the board. kick it down the road, delay, delay, but this one slapped aside by the appellate judge quickly. >> part of it. trump made filings with an appeals court asking to delay the trial on two grounds. one, the venue, meaning where the trial is situated in manhattan, is inappropriate because president trump can't bet a fair trial. that was denied yesterday. the court said, we will not stay the trial while we consider your change of venue motion. this morning, however, willie, that court is going to reconvene to hear the second part, which is trump's appeal of the gag order in that case. it's still unclear because papers are not accessible, whether he is asking to stay the trial while an appeals court co
former litigator and legal correspondent lisa rubin is here. along with former u.s. attorney and msnbc contributor chuck rosenberg. good morning. good to see you both. there's a lot there. let's start at the beginning. we'll take these in order as mika went through them. start with the bid, the trump team's bid to delay the trial, which has been the strategy across the board. kick it down the road, delay, delay, but this one slapped aside by the appellate judge quickly. >> part of it....
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joining us now, former litigator and msnbc legal correspondent lisa rubin. >> it is interesting. the argument that the defense was making really fell flat when they suggested that pecker was doing this for profit, all of this for profit. in fact, if he had run the mcdougle/trump story, it probably would have broken records. but he decided to sit on it because, as he said throughout his testimony, he wanted to help donald trump, his friend, get elected president. >> that's true. joe, it was underscored by the fact that in much of his testimony, david pecker's bottom line was clear as the primary motivating factor for him. but as joshua steinglass, representative for the d.a., established on redirect, yes, it was to his benefit to run positive stories about donald trump, who had long been a reader favorite among "national enquirer" readers. but as steinglass asked, this was never your intention to right the story, right? pecker said, no. he said, if you'd run it, it would be equivalent to "national enquirer" gold, right? pecker said, absolutely. it was the story of a playmate of th
joining us now, former litigator and msnbc legal correspondent lisa rubin. >> it is interesting. the argument that the defense was making really fell flat when they suggested that pecker was doing this for profit, all of this for profit. in fact, if he had run the mcdougle/trump story, it probably would have broken records. but he decided to sit on it because, as he said throughout his testimony, he wanted to help donald trump, his friend, get elected president. >> that's true. joe,...
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lisa rubin was in the courtroom today. lisa, we don't have a proper transcript so we are piecing this together from everybody's furious fingers. the way that we cut that and pasted it together, is that sort of true to what it felt like in the flow of the courtroom proceedings to the question >> it was true to what it felt like but there were also a number of other explosive moments.,, the biggest thing was david admission he understood that the payment to karen mcdougal was an unlawful campaign contribution and he understood that in real time, not after the fact. how did he come to understand that? because of his own entanglement with arnold schwarzenegger, who was then going to be running for governor in california and he had a catch and kill scheme of his own with arnold schwarzenegger. arnold schwarzenegger had been on the cover of two magazines and david pecker was in the process of acquiring and the owner of the magazine said before we close this deal, i want to sell to you, you have to talk to arnold. arnold said to
lisa rubin was in the courtroom today. lisa, we don't have a proper transcript so we are piecing this together from everybody's furious fingers. the way that we cut that and pasted it together, is that sort of true to what it felt like in the flow of the courtroom proceedings to the question >> it was true to what it felt like but there were also a number of other explosive moments.,, the biggest thing was david admission he understood that the payment to karen mcdougal was an unlawful...
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let's bring in msnbc legal and list, and legal correspondent, lisa rubin. good morning to you both. we can get to the timing of this in a minute, lisa, but let's talk about the substance of it. so, you have these 11 so-called fake electors, seven aides to donald trump, including rejoining giuliani, mark meadows, all of them as we have mentioned. for the benefit of our viewers, what exactly are these people accused of doing around the 2020 election? >> welcome 11 fake electors are accused of forging documents, right? by signing an elector certificate and then sending it on to the arizona secretary of state to the united states senate, to the national archives, which is what real electors do. they are facing three counts of forgery, but they are also facing counts that have to do with broad, fraud and trying to sort of hold themselves out to be the legitimate electors, and that of course, is a scheme that they engineered with the help of the senate, redacted individuals who, as you know, include several trump attorneys, but also, mark meadows and mike roman, the director of operations
let's bring in msnbc legal and list, and legal correspondent, lisa rubin. good morning to you both. we can get to the timing of this in a minute, lisa, but let's talk about the substance of it. so, you have these 11 so-called fake electors, seven aides to donald trump, including rejoining giuliani, mark meadows, all of them as we have mentioned. for the benefit of our viewers, what exactly are these people accused of doing around the 2020 election? >> welcome 11 fake electors are accused...
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this is a note from our colleague lisa rubin on sarah huckabee sanders and hope hicks' role after the interview after mcdougal is interviewed by anderson cooper. pecker said he conveyed to sarah huckabee sanders and hope hicks he wanted to extend mcdougal's contract. this is her catch and kill contract and both sarah huckabee sanders and hope hicks, white house communication staffers working for all of us, the taxpayers, thought it was a good idea to extend mcdougal's hush money contract. pecker testified he felt extending her contract would keep her from saying bad things about american media and trump. trump relented and said it's your business, telling pecker he could do what he wanted. the timing was muddied in the testimony but apparently happened before march 2018 when mcdougal sued ami resulting in a settlement through which mcdougal reclaimed her lifetime rights. the idea, vaughn, the white house press secretary, communications staffer, were involved in the details of a catch and kill scheme is extraordinary. >> rights. yet another detail we in the public were unaware of, sara
this is a note from our colleague lisa rubin on sarah huckabee sanders and hope hicks' role after the interview after mcdougal is interviewed by anderson cooper. pecker said he conveyed to sarah huckabee sanders and hope hicks he wanted to extend mcdougal's contract. this is her catch and kill contract and both sarah huckabee sanders and hope hicks, white house communication staffers working for all of us, the taxpayers, thought it was a good idea to extend mcdougal's hush money contract....
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. >> lisa rubin thank you very much. always so valuable our mvp at the courthouse. back to you. >> stay with me. i want to read a couple more questions because we are learning things for the first time. the jury questions are relatively new and today's the first time we saw them put to anyone. and so, jurors are asked for example we have been talking about michael cohen. they are asking these jurors whether they consumed cohen's books. or a podcast and if they have opinions about the legal issue of whether an expresident can be charged by new york state, and then the big one can you promise to set aside anything you heard to render a verdict based on the evidence. and so joy part of this is really human rather than lawyerly. these are human, not lawyers for the most part. answering the questions. and they have to think back not just in theory you say the right answer i am fair but in practice have you seen michael cohen on i don't know, joy reid's show, or a different show or podcasts. what do you think about that because new yorkers they might think wait maybe i ha
. >> lisa rubin thank you very much. always so valuable our mvp at the courthouse. back to you. >> stay with me. i want to read a couple more questions because we are learning things for the first time. the jury questions are relatively new and today's the first time we saw them put to anyone. and so, jurors are asked for example we have been talking about michael cohen. they are asking these jurors whether they consumed cohen's books. or a podcast and if they have opinions about...
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we have lisa rubin here tonight and suzanne craig of the new york times, who were both at the trial. lisa and suzanne and katie were all in the overflow room at the trial today. i was in the actual courtroom, which makes it sound like i got the better seat but i will tell you, there are advantages and disadvantages to both ways of sitting in on the trial and a lot of them have to do with the five senses. we will talk about that a little bit tonight. the trial got underway at 9:30 eastern time this morning and ran for about three hours before breaking early for both the passover holiday and for one juror to get to an emergency dentist appointment. i hope it went okay. that short day's proceedings brought us a whole bunch of important news about this case. we got, first thing, a substantive ruling from judge merchan about, effectively, what prosecutors will be allowed to ask trump if he chooses to take the stand in his own defense. now, this is something that is called a sandoval hearing that happened at the end of the week last week. this was judge merchan's ruling on that sandoval he
we have lisa rubin here tonight and suzanne craig of the new york times, who were both at the trial. lisa and suzanne and katie were all in the overflow room at the trial today. i was in the actual courtroom, which makes it sound like i got the better seat but i will tell you, there are advantages and disadvantages to both ways of sitting in on the trial and a lot of them have to do with the five senses. we will talk about that a little bit tonight. the trial got underway at 9:30 eastern time...
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lisa rubin thank you and andrew and claire stick around. >>> when we come back, atory breaking today. a group of retired generals are sounding the alarm on what it would mean for american democracy should donald trump win over his claims of complete presidential immunity. we'll show you exactly what they're warning the court. >>> plus the ex president promised he would tell us his position on abortion in america. today we have it. it is in a video message. we watched it so you don't have to. he managed to say a lot without saying much of anything at all. another punt or dodge from him even as he takes complete credit for the extreme abortion ban sweeping the country. >>> later in the broadcast, even some republicans now admit there is a russian wing of the american gop on capitol hill today. we'll bring you all of those stories and more when "deadline: white house" continues after a quick break. don't go anywhere. eak. don't go anywhere. >> tech vo: s enjoying her morning walk. we texted her when we were on our way. and she could track us and see exactly when we'd arrive. >> woman: i
lisa rubin thank you and andrew and claire stick around. >>> when we come back, atory breaking today. a group of retired generals are sounding the alarm on what it would mean for american democracy should donald trump win over his claims of complete presidential immunity. we'll show you exactly what they're warning the court. >>> plus the ex president promised he would tell us his position on abortion in america. today we have it. it is in a video message. we watched it so you...
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lisa rubin was in the courtroom, today. we don't have a proper transcript yet so we are piecing this together. the way that we cut and paste that together, is that true to what it felt like in courtroom proceedings today? >> it was to what it felt like but there were also a number of other explosive moments and to my mind, the biggest thing was david admission that he understood the payment to karen mcdougal was an unlawful campaign contribution and he understood that in real time, not after the fact. how? his own entanglement with arnold schwarzenegger, who was then going to be running for governor of california. he had a catch and kill scheme of his own with arnold schwarzenegger, who had been on the cover of two magazines that david pecker was acquiring, 70 or 80 times. the owner of this magazines said before we close these deals, you have to talk to arnold. arnold said, i'm a big deal with these magazines and i would like to serve as an editor at large for you and i would like to continue my association with the magazin
lisa rubin was in the courtroom, today. we don't have a proper transcript yet so we are piecing this together. the way that we cut and paste that together, is that true to what it felt like in courtroom proceedings today? >> it was to what it felt like but there were also a number of other explosive moments and to my mind, the biggest thing was david admission that he understood the payment to karen mcdougal was an unlawful campaign contribution and he understood that in real time, not...