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snapping at the tory vote in the wall and in some the red wall and in some traditional working class laboun's it going to do? >> well, it's going to deprive i think both parties of votes. i don't think it's just the conservatives. i think , you conservatives. i think, you know, there are a lot of labour people who are increasingly disillusioned with the labour party. so far away party. it strayed so far away now its working class roots. now for its working class roots. it no longer represents the working woman. i don't working man and woman. i don't think it's become part of the liberal elite. just like other other parties. so they are going to a difference to the to make a difference to the electoral landscape. are they going any seats? are going to get any seats? are almost certainly not. unless we have situation where an mp have a situation where an mp defects to reform, as douglas carswell and mark reckless did, and both won seats . mark and both won seats. mark reckless only in the by—election. but then douglas carswell for ukip again in the general election and do them well in the not
snapping at the tory vote in the wall and in some the red wall and in some traditional working class laboun's it going to do? >> well, it's going to deprive i think both parties of votes. i don't think it's just the conservatives. i think , you conservatives. i think, you know, there are a lot of labour people who are increasingly disillusioned with the labour party. so far away party. it strayed so far away now its working class roots. now for its working class roots. it no longer...
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i'm not a laboun so i'm not a tory. i'm not a labour. i'm not a centrist . it labour.ust depends on whether those policies i like the policies suit me. and i like the characters that characters who are running that party. this, party. with regard to this, i think it's shaky ground for her because, you said , just because, as you said, just published the guidance so that everyone can just move on from this. otherwise this becomes like partygate, partygate, and people keep going on about it. and then it could be damaging for the party. but then as i said, know, i don't know said, you know, i don't know whether right left whether i'm right or left wing, but probably nearer but i'm probably nearer the right so leave right than the left. so leave her in. >> well, think it's very >> well, i think it's very difficult starmer to difficult for keir starmer to get because she's get rid of it because she's a democratically deputy democratically elected deputy leader . leader of the labour party. sure, he could her shadow sure, he could take her shadow portfolios her, but portfoli
i'm not a laboun so i'm not a tory. i'm not a labour. i'm not a centrist . it labour.ust depends on whether those policies i like the policies suit me. and i like the characters that characters who are running that party. this, party. with regard to this, i think it's shaky ground for her because, you said , just because, as you said, just published the guidance so that everyone can just move on from this. otherwise this becomes like partygate, partygate, and people keep going on about it. and...
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and i don't even know you're you know, you're talking about, you know, laboun you're talking about, youcy is. well, the devil's the details. where devil's in the details. where are the details? >> so maybe sunak actually >> so maybe mr sunak actually realises he done and realises he can't be done and that an election that there might be an election coming towards the end the coming towards the end of the yeah coming towards the end of the year. it's going to be year. and it's not going to be my problem anyway. well, you know, and once labour are in certain the tories will certain key, the tories will have the kick have something to kick the kick them mean, i think with them about. i mean, i think with everything anyway, labour everything anyway, once labour get realise actually get in you'll realise actually it's more difficult when it's so much more difficult when you've feet the you've got your feet under the table than you're coming table than when you're coming from sidelines. from the sidelines. >> when he was >> rishi sunak, when he was chancellor, even agree chancellor, didn't ev
and i don't even know you're you know, you're talking about, you know, laboun you're talking about, youcy is. well, the devil's the details. where devil's in the details. where are the details? >> so maybe sunak actually >> so maybe mr sunak actually realises he done and realises he can't be done and that an election that there might be an election coming towards the end the coming towards the end of the yeah coming towards the end of the year. it's going to be year. and it's not...
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they are largely and largely winning by default and there is concerns even within laboun there is concernsere's source here labour. there's a source here saying very saying we know our lead is very soft. concern that soft. so a concern that infighting could start to really hit them electorally. whether or not the labour left a kind of strong and organised enough to mount some sort of takeover is not entirely mean, i've not entirely clear. i mean, i've kind was struck by kind of i've been was struck by how after corbyn left, how quickly after corbyn left, they marginalised how quickly after corbyn left, they the marginalised how quickly after corbyn left, they the labour marginalised how quickly after corbyn left, they the labour movement,ed how quickly after corbyn left, they the labour movement, but within the labour movement, but at the same time it could cause problems for them because problems for them just because even this not even headlines like this is not going useful the going to be useful for the labour leadership. going to be useful for the lab no, leadership. going to be usefu
they are largely and largely winning by default and there is concerns even within laboun there is concernsere's source here labour. there's a source here saying very saying we know our lead is very soft. concern that soft. so a concern that infighting could start to really hit them electorally. whether or not the labour left a kind of strong and organised enough to mount some sort of takeover is not entirely mean, i've not entirely clear. i mean, i've kind was struck by kind of i've been was...
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laboun on him like a ton of bricks.ell, the snp are clowns. we need to end this farce. if he does survive that vote of no confidence next week, if he manages to get probably ash regan on side , his political ash regan on side, his political future is still very, very uncertain . it's going to be uncertain. it's going to be really, really tough for him. governing as a minority government in holyrood, and it's quite possible that he ends up just not being able to get any policies over the line just becomes impossible for him to govern. >> what if he doesn't win ? >> what if he doesn't win? >> what if he doesn't win? >> if he doesn't win, well, the vote wouldn't be legally binding, so he wouldn't actually have to stand down. and perhaps what he was saying yesterday was an indication that he may try and not stand down, but it would be pretty difficult for him politically to remain in that post after holyrood had voted no confidence in him. and, you know, you could end up in a situation like theresa may found herself in at t
laboun on him like a ton of bricks.ell, the snp are clowns. we need to end this farce. if he does survive that vote of no confidence next week, if he manages to get probably ash regan on side , his political ash regan on side, his political future is still very, very uncertain . it's going to be uncertain. it's going to be really, really tough for him. governing as a minority government in holyrood, and it's quite possible that he ends up just not being able to get any policies over the line...