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trump's team rested their case after bob costello's testimony today. he was the 22nd overall witness. the second witness for the defense. he testified about his close relationship with rudy giuliani and setting up a back channel to trump. costello maintains he used that back channel at cohen's request. now trump himself did not testify in the trial and today outside the courthouse his son don jr. said that it would have made no sense with how unfair the trial has been in his view. so, bret, closing arguments are set to happen on tuesday with deliberations set to begin on wednesday in the first criminal trial ever involving a former u.s. president. bret? >> bret: nate foy, thanks. let's get some analysis now from george washington university law professor jonathan turley. jonathan, thanks for coming on. you were in the courtroom over the past couple of days and now we're in this parted where they are working on the jury instructions which i said at the begin something very crucial. what's your take about how that's transpired today? >> well, the jury in
trump's team rested their case after bob costello's testimony today. he was the 22nd overall witness. the second witness for the defense. he testified about his close relationship with rudy giuliani and setting up a back channel to trump. costello maintains he used that back channel at cohen's request. now trump himself did not testify in the trial and today outside the courthouse his son don jr. said that it would have made no sense with how unfair the trial has been in his view. so, bret,...
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and i actually think one of the best witnesses for the prosecution was the defense witness, bob costello, because when joshua steinglass started talking about the relentless pressure campaign that bob costello, a defense witness, was waging against michael cohen, all i could think of is they're trying to catch and kill michael cohen's damaging testimony and evidence and information that could hurt donald trump. which just beautifully re-enforces the whole prosecution theme of the case, what an enormous strategic blunder it was for them to put bob costello on the stand, and you know, joy, that had to be at donald trump's insistence. >> yeah, and we're now hearing part of that closing argument being that pecker essentially made $100,000 campaign contribution to donald trump or more than that, obviously, because they were willing to pay off stormy daniels in order to make the story go away. it does seem to me, danny, what we have seen here is a defense attorney who is getting points out that his client wants said openly and in public. he wants him to say, no, he did not sleep with stormy da
and i actually think one of the best witnesses for the prosecution was the defense witness, bob costello, because when joshua steinglass started talking about the relentless pressure campaign that bob costello, a defense witness, was waging against michael cohen, all i could think of is they're trying to catch and kill michael cohen's damaging testimony and evidence and information that could hurt donald trump. which just beautifully re-enforces the whole prosecution theme of the case, what an...
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bob costello, rudy giuliani as well. a friend of rudy giuliani as well, and just during direct testimony, michael cohen was asked, did you tell the truth to bob costello, he said no, i'm paraphrasing here because he did not question him at the time. >> can i talk about brad smith, the other expert witness regarding the fec. a former commissioner. i have interviewed him for a show that jacob soboroff and i did called "the swamp," talking about campaign finance, and dark money. he is an emphatic arguer that citizens are people. that dark money does not negatively affect campaigns. he is very good with words. very good at pushing his points. he can talk you in circles in order to get his point out. >> the judge said he's not going to let him testify to the law, that is for the law in his charge to the jury. >> it if he did allow him, he's a convincing person, very good with pushing what he believes to be correct. so i understand high they would want him as a witness. he's very argumentative and can be effective. >> i couldn
bob costello, rudy giuliani as well. a friend of rudy giuliani as well, and just during direct testimony, michael cohen was asked, did you tell the truth to bob costello, he said no, i'm paraphrasing here because he did not question him at the time. >> can i talk about brad smith, the other expert witness regarding the fec. a former commissioner. i have interviewed him for a show that jacob soboroff and i did called "the swamp," talking about campaign finance, and dark money. he...
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again, going back to bob costello, who is he to trump? one of the small few people who are 100% for him. in the same way, he's got this 32-year-old agent in these papers, anything good about trump and then he stands up and tries to counter the narrative that's been in trial when he gets up there and you know he did this, remembering mar-a- lago, picking up a piece of paper that happened to be classified and about iran. he likes to -- it's sort of his visual aspect of people are saying, a thing he loves to do, even if it's not -- a lot of people are saying. that's what those papers are. >> okay. last question to you, suzanne, i've asked you for predictions before and i recall you telling me you don't like making them, but do you have one for this verdict? harry has gone on record, that's all i'm just saying. >> i'm glad you asked me this because i want to talk a little bit about the hung jury. it's interesting. i had a friend over this morning to of course knows i've been covering the trial and she was on a jury. i said well how did it go.
again, going back to bob costello, who is he to trump? one of the small few people who are 100% for him. in the same way, he's got this 32-year-old agent in these papers, anything good about trump and then he stands up and tries to counter the narrative that's been in trial when he gets up there and you know he did this, remembering mar-a- lago, picking up a piece of paper that happened to be classified and about iran. he likes to -- it's sort of his visual aspect of people are saying, a thing...
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the reason bob costello acted upset which i think he has a right to. every question he was being asked was being objected to by the other side is sustained by the judge. i think he did it many times. even i was sitting there saying -- these are basic questions. i've never seen anyone treat her like that out by a judge. it all comes out of the white house. crooked joe biden, the worst president in the history of our country. the most incompetent, the dumbest president we have ever had. the most incompetent president and the most dishonest president. he is the manchurian candidate. you take a look at the way he treats china, russia. i ended the russian pipeline and he comes in and improves that and gets 3.5 billion paid to his family from the mayor of moscow's wife. and i said where did that come from? nobody wants to talk about it but he's a big danger to our country. ed: former president donald trump speaking after being found guilty. we are going back to anne-marie herndon. a highly political speech with many statements made. wife sees echoing what he
the reason bob costello acted upset which i think he has a right to. every question he was being asked was being objected to by the other side is sustained by the judge. i think he did it many times. even i was sitting there saying -- these are basic questions. i've never seen anyone treat her like that out by a judge. it all comes out of the white house. crooked joe biden, the worst president in the history of our country. the most incompetent, the dumbest president we have ever had. the most...
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and you got to see that with bob costello, a fine man. i've never seen anything like it. neither has anybody in that courthouse where he demanded the courthouse be cleared. the good news is, most of the people in the courthouse were the media. anybody that was in the media, if you are fair, you'll say wow, that was anger. that was -- he was crazed. and the reason that bob costello acted a little bit upset, which i think he has a right to, was that every question he was being asked was being objected to by the other side and sustained by the judge. sustained, sustained, sustained. i think he did it many times. i don't know what the number was. many times. even i was sitting there saying. these were basic questions. and i never saw anybody treated that way by a judge. i've been treated very badly by two other judges also. all the same thing. it all comes out of the white house, crooked joe biden. the worst president in the history of our country. the worst president in the history of our country. the most incompetent, the dumbest president we've ever had. he is the dumbest
and you got to see that with bob costello, a fine man. i've never seen anything like it. neither has anybody in that courthouse where he demanded the courthouse be cleared. the good news is, most of the people in the courthouse were the media. anybody that was in the media, if you are fair, you'll say wow, that was anger. that was -- he was crazed. and the reason that bob costello acted a little bit upset, which i think he has a right to, was that every question he was being asked was being...
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costello i've never seen anything like that i, and respected. but remember this we can put it in an expert witness. what allowed to put in an expert witness? nobody's ever heard that before collection law is very complicated. >> actually went out and i and experts who's the judge wants to go? >> he said, we needed experts. i guess. he said you know, he needs help we have the number one person, either side for the brad smith what are very complex so when we did nothing wrong and i'm telling you that right now, and he didn't want him to testify. that's because he's going to say we did nothing play droughts ups. >> i can say that what because you've got to have a gaggle read joel go to school whole big thing on a witness today. so i can talk about it. bob saxton, the exact same thing. jim palpatory kim parlatore, khuza'a a very good lawyer. cnn it's not only goh to the credibility, it's also goes to alvin bragg's office. his credibility. >> how did they not get this out ahead of time? >> in this whatever was asking them. how did they put something
costello i've never seen anything like that i, and respected. but remember this we can put it in an expert witness. what allowed to put in an expert witness? nobody's ever heard that before collection law is very complicated. >> actually went out and i and experts who's the judge wants to go? >> he said, we needed experts. i guess. he said you know, he needs help we have the number one person, either side for the brad smith what are very complex so when we did nothing wrong and i'm...
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but it was frustrating for bob costello frust, and he startedhe to show his frustration. he started muttering under his breath, ridiculous. >> geez. then he was staring at the judge. then they got into the staring contest. he was staring that it was a lot. >> all right. all right. thank you very much. do you kno"gew when this case is going to be over? >> oh, you kno w, it looks like? it's going to spill over into next week. okay. so we'll hav spillintoe a nice w day weekend. >> we can all chew on it. harry kupec, urbana, thank you.o >> thank you. former federalu. prosecutor katie tarkowski joins me now. katie, donald trump gave you and your husband a big shot out, said you guys were a steam legal eagles and think very legl highly of you. >> he's probably seen you on this show. y seenhow how did you absorb tht that cohen stole 60 grand from donald trump and then was pay ing the stiffed contractor 20 grand in cash and a g? wn paper lunch ba well, there's no such thing as a mercy rule in a trial, but i'm starting to think that the prosecution wishes that there was, because t
but it was frustrating for bob costello frust, and he startedhe to show his frustration. he started muttering under his breath, ridiculous. >> geez. then he was staring at the judge. then they got into the staring contest. he was staring that it was a lot. >> all right. all right. thank you very much. do you kno"gew when this case is going to be over? >> oh, you kno w, it looks like? it's going to spill over into next week. okay. so we'll hav spillintoe a nice w day...
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, bob costello was the final witness for the defense. yesterday, costello was loudly sighing. lisa, ridiculous at one point, he said jeez after judge merchan sustained objections from the prosecution, judge machina that he admonished costello and said, okay, so when there's a witness on the stand, if you don't like by ruling, you don't say, jeez. okay. and then you don't say strike it because i'm the only one that can strike testimony in the courtroom. do you understand that? costello said i understand. the judge said okay. and then if you don't like my ruling, you don't give me side. i don't roll your eyes. do you understand that? you understand that because stella says, i understand that. i understand what you're saying. the judge said, okay. thank you. let's get the jury back. wait. are you staring me down right now? costello know i'm just wondering how marsha and clear the courtroom, please. clear the courtroom. >> and then whatever happened after that, we don't know what's costello a good witness for the defense to end on. i mean, t
, bob costello was the final witness for the defense. yesterday, costello was loudly sighing. lisa, ridiculous at one point, he said jeez after judge merchan sustained objections from the prosecution, judge machina that he admonished costello and said, okay, so when there's a witness on the stand, if you don't like by ruling, you don't say, jeez. okay. and then you don't say strike it because i'm the only one that can strike testimony in the courtroom. do you understand that? costello said i...
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costello. tell us about that jake, in 20 years, of covering trials, i have never seen a judge clear the courtroom the way that judge merchan did today. >> it was after this tension shin over bob costello, who's on the witness stand when the judge would sustain the objections by the prosecution costello was making noises rolling his eyes at one point, you could your hidden say, jeez. and so the judge asked the jury to step out more. sean turn to costello and said he wanted to talk to him about the rules of decorum in the courtroom, and even then fellow was kind of going back and forth with him. and the judge telling him you don't say jeez, you don't say stricken. i'm the one that decides the rulings in this courtroom. and then costello again kind of looking the judge, immer schon, lean toward costello. he's still on the bench. you leaned toward him and said, are you staring me down? and that's when the judge said clear the courtroom. all the media had to get up to leave. you know, we were asking
costello. tell us about that jake, in 20 years, of covering trials, i have never seen a judge clear the courtroom the way that judge merchan did today. >> it was after this tension shin over bob costello, who's on the witness stand when the judge would sustain the objections by the prosecution costello was making noises rolling his eyes at one point, you could your hidden say, jeez. and so the judge asked the jury to step out more. sean turn to costello and said he wanted to talk to him...
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i have to believe especially after the judge merchan had to clear the courtroom because bob costello couldn't be a respectful witness. he was showing behavior. and the jury is not going to miss all of the signs and signals. i can only believe he directed them to put costello on the stand because it was an enormous strategic blunder. >> and there are two groups of people i want to ask you about. next week a group of people after a long complex trial where they had to sit through testimony with a lot of complex decisions. what kind of burden is on these americans? >> it's enormous and a part of a tradition that stretches back to the 13th century. it's the common law, it is that defendants are given the right to be tried and that juries render these verdicts. and i'm glad i'm not there, but i think if you believe in the system for all of their imperfections, then the system will move on and unfolds. >> i love that you always qualify that. if you believe in the system with all their imperfections. >> well, it is. >> and as winston church hill said, it's the worst of all forms of governme
i have to believe especially after the judge merchan had to clear the courtroom because bob costello couldn't be a respectful witness. he was showing behavior. and the jury is not going to miss all of the signs and signals. i can only believe he directed them to put costello on the stand because it was an enormous strategic blunder. >> and there are two groups of people i want to ask you about. next week a group of people after a long complex trial where they had to sit through testimony...
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. >> i mean, it's really kind of amazing and i think we may see this play out with bob costello, the castello may well get into the opinion of his truthfulness and just say, and probably an inimitable way that bob will come up with it. i'm not knowledgeable before you, before you go on now, i think people we heard about bob costello, this is not really a household name for a lot of people, for many reasons and all the names people who have been listed who exactly is bob costello and why would it be the case that if he was the attorney of cohen he can talk about them right now. >> he is a new york lawyer for 51 years, no rookie, very street smart, very kind of prototypical new york brash lawyer he and his partner were representing cohen and the substance that really is devastating in terms of rebuttal, potential rebuttal testimony is that cohen was on the hook with the southern district of new york, and this lawyer pushed him saying, if there's something you can do to cooperate if you can give us anything on president trump, i can get you out all your trouble and he's a former sdny pr
. >> i mean, it's really kind of amazing and i think we may see this play out with bob costello, the castello may well get into the opinion of his truthfulness and just say, and probably an inimitable way that bob will come up with it. i'm not knowledgeable before you, before you go on now, i think people we heard about bob costello, this is not really a household name for a lot of people, for many reasons and all the names people who have been listed who exactly is bob costello and why...
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. >> brian: why would bob costello, not be a good witness for the defense? >> he said he handed this information over to the defense and over to the prosecutors that alvin bragg knows about it and brought this case anyway. he could be subpoenaed and called. >> steve: eric, i think the headline of this particular segment was ainsley earhardt observation that it appears the video of michael cohen leaving his house today, he lives in a trump building. >> ainsley: he occupies his trump conco, he bought for $5 million in 2005 and had a mortgage of $2 million. >> steve: i want to go to that condo board meeting. >> that is true, he lives in a trump building, his family bought trump apartments. my god children are neighbors of his and see him in the elevator all the time. >> ainsley: skully and skully, a beautiful store is in that building. >> steve: that is where i got my wallet. >> ainsley: prettiest gifts. goodbye, eric. >> lawrence: bob costello will join "americas newsroom" this morning. why wouldn't defense use him? allegation cohen is making is that costello
. >> brian: why would bob costello, not be a good witness for the defense? >> he said he handed this information over to the defense and over to the prosecutors that alvin bragg knows about it and brought this case anyway. he could be subpoenaed and called. >> steve: eric, i think the headline of this particular segment was ainsley earhardt observation that it appears the video of michael cohen leaving his house today, he lives in a trump building. >> ainsley: he...
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and the reason that bob costello matters here well, mr. costello and mr. cohen dispute whether it was a formal attorney client relationship, right? he was never formally retained. michael cohen did have to waive attorney-client privilege and costello is subsequently testified before the grand jury in this case. he testified before congress last week is because costello insists that while he was talking to cohen, cohen repeatedly told him that he had no evidence of criminal misconduct by trump at that time, and that, of course, his story change. so todd blanche is likely building to highlight that and how cohen's story eventually shifted. this is also why they'd want to put castello on the stand. he has testified publicly again, and before the grand jury tried to undercut cohen's credibility, it's unclear though, after what blanche has done here, that they'll really need mr. costello would appears to be workaround by bringing him up in front of mr. cohen as opposed to having to bring him in person. well, and this is an interesting point where they're showin
and the reason that bob costello matters here well, mr. costello and mr. cohen dispute whether it was a formal attorney client relationship, right? he was never formally retained. michael cohen did have to waive attorney-client privilege and costello is subsequently testified before the grand jury in this case. he testified before congress last week is because costello insists that while he was talking to cohen, cohen repeatedly told him that he had no evidence of criminal misconduct by trump...
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you mention this comes as bob costello is on the stand, under cross-examination and the jury has been dismissed for the day and waiting remarks from trump himself and judge reprimanded costello while on the stand and frustrated with constant objections by prosecutors and said stop reacting to the rulings and he was talking about conversation withs michael cohen in 2018 and described cohen as suicidal and acting manic and looking for escape route during the meetings and cohen considered jumping off a hotel balcony two days before and cohen testified he never hired costello because he never trusted him and cohen is off the stand and testified for over a week. during his cross-examination, he didded a milt he knew at the time of his conversations with costello he was protected under his attorney client privilege, which is important u, david, because cohen said he lied to costello because he thought he wouldn't keep the conversations private and would funnel that information to trump through rudy giuliani. cohen admitted to stealing roughly $60,000 from the trump organization and overbill
you mention this comes as bob costello is on the stand, under cross-examination and the jury has been dismissed for the day and waiting remarks from trump himself and judge reprimanded costello while on the stand and frustrated with constant objections by prosecutors and said stop reacting to the rulings and he was talking about conversation withs michael cohen in 2018 and described cohen as suicidal and acting manic and looking for escape route during the meetings and cohen considered jumping...
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now some forceful accounts undermine company cope comprehendibled from bob costello revived cohen before indicted 2018 said cohen claimed then trump had nothing to do with the stormy daniels nondisclosure agreement costello said cohen is lying to the jury now. watch. >> it was his idea to take care of the nba contacted by lawyer for stormy daniels said she was going to claim donald trump had sex with her cohen said i didn't believe allegation but nevertheless it would be embarrassing, to melania. that is michael cohen's words. >> expect to concluded cross on monday then defense will have an opportunity to put on their case includes calling witnesses possibly even bob costello we will see where that takes us next as we speak >> we will see if he ends up agency a witness, lydia hu, your reaction. my reaction prosecution cavalier to think michael cohen can withstand any sort of cross-examination yesterday proved that realistically they are so cavalier there is so much conflict with respect the to interest from the judge daughter being paid by goldman coaching michael cohen the lead prosecut
now some forceful accounts undermine company cope comprehendibled from bob costello revived cohen before indicted 2018 said cohen claimed then trump had nothing to do with the stormy daniels nondisclosure agreement costello said cohen is lying to the jury now. watch. >> it was his idea to take care of the nba contacted by lawyer for stormy daniels said she was going to claim donald trump had sex with her cohen said i didn't believe allegation but nevertheless it would be embarrassing, to...
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and that's who i think bob costello is. judge -- justice merchan gave very clear guidance to the defense for why he was going to allow costello to be admitted as a witness. and he wanted it to be specific and narrow. and i think he probably sat there once costello sat down and was casual with his responses to the prosecutors, on the borderline of being flip and disrespectful, that he thought oh my god, i gave these people an inch and now they're taking a mile, which is of course what they intended to do. and so he has to clear the courtroom. i'm very interested to see what he said to them because it also didn't change their behavior. they came right back in and did it again and then did it again. i think he cleared the courtroom three times. twice. i'm not sure. and it's a reminder, as you said, of the complete disregard this collection of people have for the rule of law, process and institutions that all of us rely on for civic society to function properly. and this is yet another demonstration how they're willing to just
and that's who i think bob costello is. judge -- justice merchan gave very clear guidance to the defense for why he was going to allow costello to be admitted as a witness. and he wanted it to be specific and narrow. and i think he probably sat there once costello sat down and was casual with his responses to the prosecutors, on the borderline of being flip and disrespectful, that he thought oh my god, i gave these people an inch and now they're taking a mile, which is of course what they...
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meaning bob costello, i believed upon all our conversations he would immediately run back to mr. giuliani and that conversation would be divulged to president trump. multiple e-mails confirmed exactly that, showing that costello was indeed acting as a back channel to trump and giuliani precisely as michael cohen claimed he was. joining me now are kristi greenberg, former federal prosecutor and former sdny criminal deputy chief, and duncan levine, former district attorney for the eastern district of new york. there's a lot of legal stuff i want to get to, but first on the big picture, kristi, was it a good idea for the defense to end with bob costello? >> it was a bad idea. it chaep helped bolster michael cohen's credibility. anything that makes michael cohen smelling like a rose, you have to think that's a bad idea interest the defense, but these e-mails today oozing with slime. michael cohen testified this guy wanted to me by lawyer, but i didn't really trust him, i thought he was working for donald trump, and sure enough we get e-mails today where the e-mails are pretty explici
meaning bob costello, i believed upon all our conversations he would immediately run back to mr. giuliani and that conversation would be divulged to president trump. multiple e-mails confirmed exactly that, showing that costello was indeed acting as a back channel to trump and giuliani precisely as michael cohen claimed he was. joining me now are kristi greenberg, former federal prosecutor and former sdny criminal deputy chief, and duncan levine, former district attorney for the eastern...
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costello -- i thought that was very effective and without cohen you can't make any kind of judgement about what is in trump's in mind. you nailed it, not only do you have to show the text but you have to show that trump had the mental state to commit fraud and to co- violate federal election. >> martha: mens rea is part of this jury instruction process that he did this willfully and with intent so we will see if they will have -- approval of that as we get through this. thank you, john yoo, always good to see you. >> thanks, martha. >> martha: thank you very much. and mark looney who is married to george clooney and his around some pretty powerful numeric -- democratic circles is among the legal experts backing and the rest of israel's prime minister benjamin netanyahu for war crimes. drei angst and then how -- howard kurtz after this. >> ♪ ♪ 's sara federico: at st. jude, we don't care who cures cancer. we just need to advance the cure. it's a bold initiative to try and bump 's ♪ my back got injured very bad. i was off work for about a year. i heard about relief factor from my
costello -- i thought that was very effective and without cohen you can't make any kind of judgement about what is in trump's in mind. you nailed it, not only do you have to show the text but you have to show that trump had the mental state to commit fraud and to co- violate federal election. >> martha: mens rea is part of this jury instruction process that he did this willfully and with intent so we will see if they will have -- approval of that as we get through this. thank you, john...
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attorney bob costello whom cohen killed with in 2018 told fox today after testifying on capitol hill wednesday that cohen completed the daniels deal by himself to gain trump's favor and ultimately become his white house chief of staff or attorney general. >> he said, specifically, and i cross-examined him on this, this was my idea. it was his idea to take care of the nda because he had been contacted by a lawyer for stormy daniels who said she was going to claim that donald trump had sex with her. he kept on saying i have nothing on donald trump. >> cohen is the prosecution's final witness. as this trial nears its end. >> this is finishing up at some point it will be finished. >> trump's lawyers say they expect to finish cohen's cross-examination by the morning break on monday. after that, lawyers for former president trump plan to call brad smith to the stand. he's an expert witness -- an expert on campaign finance law. trump's lawyers also indicate they are considering calling more witnesses forward. they didn't mention bob costello by name but costello told fox this morning it's p
attorney bob costello whom cohen killed with in 2018 told fox today after testifying on capitol hill wednesday that cohen completed the daniels deal by himself to gain trump's favor and ultimately become his white house chief of staff or attorney general. >> he said, specifically, and i cross-examined him on this, this was my idea. it was his idea to take care of the nda because he had been contacted by a lawyer for stormy daniels who said she was going to claim that donald trump had sex...
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>> i would consider calling bob costello but it would be very limited. it would be did you advise michael cohen, did he make certain missions to you, what to the site. and that would be the end of it. i don't think i would get into anything else with him and limit the cross-examination from the d.a.'s office onto that subject. but i don't think i would put president trump on the stand. >> sandra: that's still a question at the hour. a little bit of a teaser we have a legal panel coming up next. right when you said possibly bringing castella as a witness we are left wondering if the former president is still considering as he had said a long ago in the past that he was willing to testify. >> i think he would discuss it but my belief is that the advice of his counsel is do not do that in light of the rulings of the court. it would make the cross-examination a total chaotic circumstance. >> john: in terms of calling bob costello, the testimony that he gave to the subcommittee on the weaponization of government was completely contradictory to what michael co
>> i would consider calling bob costello but it would be very limited. it would be did you advise michael cohen, did he make certain missions to you, what to the site. and that would be the end of it. i don't think i would get into anything else with him and limit the cross-examination from the d.a.'s office onto that subject. but i don't think i would put president trump on the stand. >> sandra: that's still a question at the hour. a little bit of a teaser we have a legal panel...
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let's watch bob costello. >> he kept on saying i have nothing on donald trump. and then when we got into the discussion of the stormy daniels nda he said specifically, and i cross-examined him on this, this was my idea. it was his idea to take care of the nda because he had been contacted by a lawyer for stormy daniels who said she was going to claim that donald trump had sex with her. cohen said i didn't believe the allegation but nevertheless it would be embarrassing to melania, michael cohen's words. >> trey, your response. >> i was in the courthouse last week when he testified. his testimony could have been incredibly helpful to the defense. regrettably, the manner in which he testified was not. you cannot get into a fight with the judge. the jury is going to relate to the judge. so at best i thought his testimony was a wash. it may have actually wound up hurting the defense. i will also say this and say hello to my colleague lee zeldin, a former prosecutor. the prosecution will stand up and say michael cohen is not a great witness. he is convicted perjurer
let's watch bob costello. >> he kept on saying i have nothing on donald trump. and then when we got into the discussion of the stormy daniels nda he said specifically, and i cross-examined him on this, this was my idea. it was his idea to take care of the nda because he had been contacted by a lawyer for stormy daniels who said she was going to claim that donald trump had sex with her. cohen said i didn't believe the allegation but nevertheless it would be embarrassing to melania, michael...
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the judge was a tyrant and you got to see that with bob costello, a kind man, i've never seen anything like it and it has anybody in the courthouse where he demanded the courthouse be cleared. the good news is most of the people in the courthouse where the media is anybody in the media you will say while, he was crazed and the reason bob costello acted a little upset which i think he has a right to was never question he was being asked was being objected to by the other side and sustained by the judge. i think he did it many times, even i was saying these are basic questions that i never saw anybody treated that way by the judge and i was treated very badly by two other judges because it's all the same thing comes out of the white house, crooked joe biden is the worst president in the history of our country, the worst president in history of our country, the most incompetent, the dumbest president we've ever had. he's the dumbest president, most incompetent president and most dishonest we've ever had and so many -- look at the way he treats china, russia and so many others. and at the
the judge was a tyrant and you got to see that with bob costello, a kind man, i've never seen anything like it and it has anybody in the courthouse where he demanded the courthouse be cleared. the good news is most of the people in the courthouse where the media is anybody in the media you will say while, he was crazed and the reason bob costello acted a little upset which i think he has a right to was never question he was being asked was being objected to by the other side and sustained by...
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the testimony of bob costello was blockbuster totally contradicting everything michael cohen said and apparently gave a waiver on attorney-client privilege. i guess my question to you would be what should they do on cross examination do they call costello in light of today and what witness' widgets would you call how would you handle the rest of the case if you are trump's attorney? >> the most important witness in the case other than costello is the 1 nobody will hear from and that is wizened berg. he almost certainly contradicts what cohen has said that's where the government won't call him they can easily call him give him immunity and grab evan from jail and put them on the witness stand he's 15 minutes away and the key points in the case would be the witness instruction ladies and gentlemen of the jury what does the government have to hide why are they putting him on the witness stand and second i would ask cohen you have discussions with the prosecution about him did you tell them you could corroborate or contradict your testimony that they tell you why they are putting him on t
the testimony of bob costello was blockbuster totally contradicting everything michael cohen said and apparently gave a waiver on attorney-client privilege. i guess my question to you would be what should they do on cross examination do they call costello in light of today and what witness' widgets would you call how would you handle the rest of the case if you are trump's attorney? >> the most important witness in the case other than costello is the 1 nobody will hear from and that is...
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joining us now is bob costello. bob, great to see you. have you been given any indication that you could be a witness in this trial? >> no, that's not what wanted happened obviously they have to wait until the cross-examination of michael cohen is over. they will make a motion to try to get rid of this case. i'm also equally sure that this judge, although he should dismiss the case won't. so then the question is poised for todd blanche to decide who he is going to call as a witness. i would think in light of the testimony i gave yesterday down at the house. that i'm very likely suspect. and i'm ready to go. i'm telling the truth it's an easy story to tell and i'm not concerned at all. >> laura: when i was in the courtroom on tuesday -- >> -- can't be believed. >> laura: michael cohen was asked about his various conversations with you. owe at the present time the same patter going that he wasn't being completely forthcoming with you or forthcoming at all with you about trump because he hadn't retained you. you were asking for some exorbita
joining us now is bob costello. bob, great to see you. have you been given any indication that you could be a witness in this trial? >> no, that's not what wanted happened obviously they have to wait until the cross-examination of michael cohen is over. they will make a motion to try to get rid of this case. i'm also equally sure that this judge, although he should dismiss the case won't. so then the question is poised for todd blanche to decide who he is going to call as a witness. i...
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costello. he testified yesterday on capitol hill that cohen insistes to him on multiple occasionsp. over two hours that he had nothinanytg on donald trump. trump did not do anything wrongo but that is not all costelloould brought information to bragg. >> why wouldn't open bragg talkh to you? >> you have to ask him that. when i talk to eight of his assistant das. whehe >> what was that reception liker >> they did everything in their power not to ask me the questions that would elicit the exculpatory information. >> is this the same information> you took to the southernecid district? they were happy to the get it, o did they decide? >> they decided they did not use michael cohen for anything.ks >> laura: boy, so they stomp out from it like bragg didn'tas care that cohen had no credibility asring long as it wd help bring the case to bills bo mike against trump, which is turning for a prosecutor to dupe you are joining us now, bob costello. great to see you. catihave you been given indicatn that yo
costello. he testified yesterday on capitol hill that cohen insistes to him on multiple occasionsp. over two hours that he had nothinanytg on donald trump. trump did not do anything wrongo but that is not all costelloould brought information to bragg. >> why wouldn't open bragg talkh to you? >> you have to ask him that. when i talk to eight of his assistant das. whehe >> what was that reception liker >> they did everything in their power not to ask me the questions that...
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it's due to the defense calling bob costello. >> what do they do now? >> pray? i don't know. >> that's their best shot. i don't know. >> it's going to come down to the closings. it's hearing some of those instructions or the debate about the instructions on the way here. this is not in trump's favor. where we stand at this point, that jury in their mind, that's the last witness they have heard is bob costello is basically supporting everything we have heard and know about donald trump. nothing about the documents, nothing to put on an actual defense. and that's what they are going to leave and think about for for the next week. >> i have to ask all of you. this makes michael cohen look like the victim of both extortion, pressure and a threat. orchestrated through costello. so again, talk about trump rehabilitating his own nemesis. we're going to continue to follow what we are tracking for us. what's happening right now. they are inside the courtroom right now. the prosecution and donald trump's lawyers, trying to work out what instructions the jury will be given
it's due to the defense calling bob costello. >> what do they do now? >> pray? i don't know. >> that's their best shot. i don't know. >> it's going to come down to the closings. it's hearing some of those instructions or the debate about the instructions on the way here. this is not in trump's favor. where we stand at this point, that jury in their mind, that's the last witness they have heard is bob costello is basically supporting everything we have heard and know...
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bob costello. we all got to read a series of emails, some of which you are em on and some that were happening behind your back which i think, the jury were led to believe, probably concluded, that it was a huge effort that was undertaken by him, by rudy giuliani, and by defendant trump to keep you from cooperating so you would not flip. i was wondering if you could take us back to that time as to what was it within you that new to not go with bob costello and go with a petrillo and end up breaking with trump world and seeing this was not the road that was being orchestrated for you was not where you wanted to be? >> that's a great question, andrew. from the first meeting i had with him and jeffrey, all they wanted me to do was sign every trainer agreement and all they were interested in doing -- bob castillo was interested in was n promoting himself and his relationship with rudy giuliani. i never liked rudy and i never trusted rudy. i watched him try to manipulate the game when he was trying to ge
bob costello. we all got to read a series of emails, some of which you are em on and some that were happening behind your back which i think, the jury were led to believe, probably concluded, that it was a huge effort that was undertaken by him, by rudy giuliani, and by defendant trump to keep you from cooperating so you would not flip. i was wondering if you could take us back to that time as to what was it within you that new to not go with bob costello and go with a petrillo and end up...
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if i could just roll sound on more of this interview from bob costello earlier today on whether or not he will testify. i wanted to get your reaction to this. >> i have not been subpoenaed. whether i will be called to testify it has not been decided yet. it probably depends a lot on what will happen a day in court and what would happen on redirect by the district attorney's office. i mean if i were in todd blanche's shoes, that's the analysis i would make. >> sandra: i suppose we don't know what we don't know and there could be some surprises there. kerri? >> yeah, he is right. if i were todd blanche i would be thinking the same way. after we see how today goes and it did not end with just a cross, the prosecution's office will have a chance to do redirect and then the defense team could do recross, we redirect, reread cross and this could go on sometime. it remains to be seen and the testimony i believe was remarkably compelling given cohen told him donald trump that cohen i'm sorry, donald trump knew nothing about the stormy daniels payment and then that cohen had done that completel
if i could just roll sound on more of this interview from bob costello earlier today on whether or not he will testify. i wanted to get your reaction to this. >> i have not been subpoenaed. whether i will be called to testify it has not been decided yet. it probably depends a lot on what will happen a day in court and what would happen on redirect by the district attorney's office. i mean if i were in todd blanche's shoes, that's the analysis i would make. >> sandra: i suppose we...
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if i'm the jury looking at the first real defense witness being bob costello and how he behaved this afternoon, compared to michael cohen, that would not have left a good impression on me. >> duncan, welcome to the show. how unusual is it for a witness and a judge to get into it the way -- we're just reading the accounts of it. i'm sure it was quite dramatic in person. how unusual is that, and in this courtroom, how damaging could that be for the defense case? >> well, they have clearly gotten off to a terrible start here. it's very unusual to be slapped down in this way, but this type of behavior by a witness is one that the defense clearly should have gotten under control far before they ever called him to the stand. you remember, todd blanche got off on the wrong foot when the cross-examination of michael cohen, too, having his first question to michael cohen be objected to and the objection sustained right out of the bat, right off the bat, because he was asking personal questions about didn't you call me this and didn't you call me that? the judge is clearly exhausted and exaspe
if i'm the jury looking at the first real defense witness being bob costello and how he behaved this afternoon, compared to michael cohen, that would not have left a good impression on me. >> duncan, welcome to the show. how unusual is it for a witness and a judge to get into it the way -- we're just reading the accounts of it. i'm sure it was quite dramatic in person. how unusual is that, and in this courtroom, how damaging could that be for the defense case? >> well, they have...
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costello and bob costello behaved in a way, where there's no way that the jury did not react to that. at that point in the trial, they have lived with the most dispassionate, lovely, you know, judge, with incredible judicial temperament, and here, they have every reason to like this particular judge, there is no way that they did not think that this was highly inappropriate, and this was the defendant's case. >> yeah, again, we don't know if the jury is consuming the evidence, but in the narrative suite that the prosecution presented, it was a story about a conspiracy, the principles are donald trump and david pecker. and the person is a mid-level staffer in that, is michael cohen, this story concludes dramatically in the cross- examination . and the prosecution gets to land on new evidence of the effort to suppress the mid-level staffer who in every bond movie is the guy that flips and trump's role is to make sure that michael cohen could sleep at my spirit -- night. >> i think back to susan hoffman just direct on michael cohen and how they set up the narrative of robert costello wi
costello and bob costello behaved in a way, where there's no way that the jury did not react to that. at that point in the trial, they have lived with the most dispassionate, lovely, you know, judge, with incredible judicial temperament, and here, they have every reason to like this particular judge, there is no way that they did not think that this was highly inappropriate, and this was the defendant's case. >> yeah, again, we don't know if the jury is consuming the evidence, but in the...
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it is bob costello. that's the person who.comes as your character witness and that's a big tell. but the lawyers, the quality of the lawyering did donald trump in. where did it do him in? think about all the other people that have represented him and all the other cases. he has been losing, losing, losing. >> he has also been guilty. >> and he has not been surrounded by reputable people. he hasn't had top republicans around him. mike johnson is speaker of the house and showed up one day a few days after he got aid for ukraine passed which is the opposite of what donald trump wanted done. his number one person ivanka, jared? no. >> we are supposed to fit in one of our only breaks of the hour. the bob costello, having him as a character witness would be like hypothetically having an indicted murder do your campaign appearances. but you wouldn't do that. >> well. >> we have a lot coming up. we have our whole panel staying. we have professor melissa murray making her first appearance. so stay with us. appearance. so stay with us. (restaurant noise) [announcer] introducing allison's p
it is bob costello. that's the person who.comes as your character witness and that's a big tell. but the lawyers, the quality of the lawyering did donald trump in. where did it do him in? think about all the other people that have represented him and all the other cases. he has been losing, losing, losing. >> he has also been guilty. >> and he has not been surrounded by reputable people. he hasn't had top republicans around him. mike johnson is speaker of the house and showed up one...
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bob costello reacted to that last night. listen. >> the bottom line is he didn't have truthful information. he said, guys, i want you to know i will do whatever the f i have to do. i will never spend one day in jail. well, he spent more than one day in jail and he blames donald trump for that. now, i wondered he, though, why he would go out of his way because he explained the $130,000 transaction was all his idea. he said donald trump had nothing to do with it. >> the judge canceled proceedings today so that trump can attend his son barron's high school graduation. guys? >> brian: graduation is today. >> brooke: yep, in florida. >> lawrence: big moment. >> ainsley: thank you so much, brook. >> brian: so interesting real quick on barron it seems like he likes politics. he is trying to get involved. he looks like politician now. >> ainsley: going to be electorate and melania said nope. i don't blame her. >> lawrence: is he tall, too. >> brian: is he youngkin tall. >> lawrence: the former president you notice i never get to do
bob costello reacted to that last night. listen. >> the bottom line is he didn't have truthful information. he said, guys, i want you to know i will do whatever the f i have to do. i will never spend one day in jail. well, he spent more than one day in jail and he blames donald trump for that. now, i wondered he, though, why he would go out of his way because he explained the $130,000 transaction was all his idea. he said donald trump had nothing to do with it. >> the judge canceled...
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you can expose yourself to is it once you open the door to testimony about somebody like bob costello, you don't know what's coming next. i think this speculation that costello will testify is very interesting. because in large part, he would be offered to impeach cohen's credibility, to say what cohen is saying on the witness stand today is different than what he told bob costello when he was acting as an intermediary between cohen and trump. >> but joyce, wasn't he conflicted because he was an intermediary and was not under retainer and was actually potentially as michael cohen feared, doing donald trump's bidding? >> and that's exactly the problem. there's no telling what could come out if costello is offered as a witness on cross-examination. it would be appropriate for the prosecutors to go into all of that in an effort to bolster cohen's credibility and some of that could be damaging to donald trump. >> joyce, what do you think of the, there's going to be a break after michael cohen's done. after the prosecution rests and say the defense doesn't call any witnesses, that could ha
you can expose yourself to is it once you open the door to testimony about somebody like bob costello, you don't know what's coming next. i think this speculation that costello will testify is very interesting. because in large part, he would be offered to impeach cohen's credibility, to say what cohen is saying on the witness stand today is different than what he told bob costello when he was acting as an intermediary between cohen and trump. >> but joyce, wasn't he conflicted because he...
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i'm saying it, not you, the hot mess of bob costello, a very weak trump defense witness. i want to get your breakdown of that which we turn to next. mr. weissman stays. al sharpton here unlike anything we've ever tried before joined by an artist making his beat debut. the one and only legend, harry mack. later lanny davis is here. stay with us. ickleball? it's basically tennis for babies, but for adults. it should be called wiffle tennis. pickle! yeah, aw! whoo! ♪♪ these guys are intense. we got nothing to worry about. with e*trade from morgan stanley, we're ready for whatever gets served up. dude, you gotta work on your trash talk. i'd rather work on saving for retirement. or college, since you like to get schooled. that's a pretty good burn, right? got him. good game. thanks for coming to our clinic, first one's free. an alternative to pills, voltaren is a clinically proven arthritis pain relief gel, which penetrates deep to target the source of pain with nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory medicine directly at the source. voltaren, the joy of movement. frustrated by ski
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i think it's completely backfired because it really appears that bob costello has an ax to grind and he's there with a strong bias towards the defendants. so i think actually jurors are now more likely to say, well, i think what michael cohen said about this relationship that he didn't trust costello and he didn't tell castello anything for that reason is much more likely to be believed. >> it was interesting because he did bring up this whole idea that as michael cohen was facing legal problems from the new york district he said he's never i told him, you can clear your name if you can just tell me what it is that donald trump has done and michael, he says, told him he didn't have anything. but because of this back-and-forth in the jury is sitting there watching this eye rolling and the staring and this whole thing, the judge clearing the court, does it discount in their minds? him de juries typically not like it when a when a witness is rude to a judge, well, they really don't like it. the judge's their authority figure. he's their protectors, so they always look up to the judge. b
i think it's completely backfired because it really appears that bob costello has an ax to grind and he's there with a strong bias towards the defendants. so i think actually jurors are now more likely to say, well, i think what michael cohen said about this relationship that he didn't trust costello and he didn't tell castello anything for that reason is much more likely to be believed. >> it was interesting because he did bring up this whole idea that as michael cohen was facing legal...
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bob costello, was being sketchy. you felt like it was being pressured. you see the e-mail and you say, that's a sketchy e-mail. you talk about setting up the back channel. is he saying back channel? some paraphrasing way? and it says, i would be happy to set up a back channel. that's right on the money. they kept doing that time and time again, in a way i think does bolster the credibility of the story he's telling on these main points. >> chris hayes, thank you so much. for more from chris, tune into "all in with chris hayes" tonight at 8:00 p.m. eastern on msnbc. >>> let's bring in lisa ruben and "new york times" investigative reporter suzanne craig also at the courthouse. they've been in the overflow room today. lisa, what is your take on the decision, first of all, for the prosecution, to rest after michael cohen, after his cross-examination and the redirect. and for the defense to say, they may have one witness, an expert witness that is not ready for monday, that they may not have any witnesses. >> let's start with the second first. their witness l
bob costello, was being sketchy. you felt like it was being pressured. you see the e-mail and you say, that's a sketchy e-mail. you talk about setting up the back channel. is he saying back channel? some paraphrasing way? and it says, i would be happy to set up a back channel. that's right on the money. they kept doing that time and time again, in a way i think does bolster the credibility of the story he's telling on these main points. >> chris hayes, thank you so much. for more from...
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when bob costello told steve bannon, don't worry about the subpoena, you don't have to show up, that was not a reasonable piece of advice for a lawyer to give. i want to say, i think it was client-driven, because i can't tell what else it would have been. should it be? ethically, the rules governing attorney conduct in new york and most other places give the client the ultimate right to direct their own defense. that doesn't just pertain to their decision to take the stand but to all decisions reflecting their legal defense. most clients are very happy to be guided and led by experienced counsel, particularly counsel of the level of experience that these three have. donald trump is not. you asked also, am i surprised to the extent this was client-driven? i'm not, having seen the totality of das 1 through 20. continuing to fight that there was any reimbursement here at all. todd blanche's characterization of the $35,000 a month payment to michael cohen continues to be, it was never reimbursement, it was always meant as a retainer for legal services that michael cohen rendered as perso
when bob costello told steve bannon, don't worry about the subpoena, you don't have to show up, that was not a reasonable piece of advice for a lawyer to give. i want to say, i think it was client-driven, because i can't tell what else it would have been. should it be? ethically, the rules governing attorney conduct in new york and most other places give the client the ultimate right to direct their own defense. that doesn't just pertain to their decision to take the stand but to all decisions...
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it would be to their advantage to call bob costello, would it not? >> i think so, jackie. i was listening to that interview, and i actually appeared on that show right after he if finished. before he spoke i thought maybe trump should just rest are after the prosecution's case and not put anyone on, because cohen is a liar. he's the last prosecution witness. but after i heard costello's testimony, i thought he has to be called. he'd be a great witness for trump. jackie: i thought that too. john yoo, we'll see what happens. thank you so much for being here tonight. >> thanks. jackie: all right. turning to this, the presidential election heating up as both president biden and former president trump gear up for the first of two debates in just over a month, and new fox news polling shows the race is pretty close. trump leads biden by just one point, 49-48, in a head to head matchup between the two, closing the gap that we were seeing in march polling. joining me now to discuss is "forbes" media chairman and editor-in-chief steve forbes and fox news contributor and author joe
it would be to their advantage to call bob costello, would it not? >> i think so, jackie. i was listening to that interview, and i actually appeared on that show right after he if finished. before he spoke i thought maybe trump should just rest are after the prosecution's case and not put anyone on, because cohen is a liar. he's the last prosecution witness. but after i heard costello's testimony, i thought he has to be called. he'd be a great witness for trump. jackie: i thought that...
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meanwhile, bob costello is expected back on the stand for more cross-examination tomorrow. lester? >> laura jarrett, thanks. >>> much of the world has been holding its collective breath in the hours since learning of the death of iran's president ebrahim raisi in a helicopter crash. keir simmons reports on a potentially destabilizing moment. >> reporter: tonight the wreckage of the fiery crash that killed iran's president and its foreign minister in a region already rocked by instability and war. tv crews reaching the remote scene today. the hard-line leader of america's long-standing adversary dead suddenly and, it seems, by accident. today in the streets of tehran men openly wept for president raisi, seen as the potential successor to iran's aging supreme leader. at some iranian embassies in the west opponents celebrated. the u.s. tonight says there are no signs of outside interference and saying iran's government reached out for help during the rescue efforts. >> ultimately largely for logistical reasons we weren't able to provide that assistance. >> reporter: raisi described to
meanwhile, bob costello is expected back on the stand for more cross-examination tomorrow. lester? >> laura jarrett, thanks. >>> much of the world has been holding its collective breath in the hours since learning of the death of iran's president ebrahim raisi in a helicopter crash. keir simmons reports on a potentially destabilizing moment. >> reporter: tonight the wreckage of the fiery crash that killed iran's president and its foreign minister in a region already rocked...
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and look, bob costello was a very long practicing lawyer. he knows exactly what objection. sustained means, and he can kept going. and that clearly infuriated the judge and the body language was terrible. and at that moment, the jury gets sent out of the room and you and i've talked about this before. i think jurors really, really focus in on the body language of the lawyers, particularly the judge and i think the jury saw everything they needed to see just in the facial expressions and the posture of those two men before the judge and the witness started really before the judge really started going after the witness. >> what was a terrible by language, what was going on were sean, i think it was just flabbergasted that this again, veteran lawyer who knows what objection sustained. >> means keeps talking over the objection and i think there were there was a moment where work bob costello waved his hand, an in exasperate, like can you believe this? he didn't say those words, but, you know what that hand expression is. i feel like human beings actually understand each other's
and look, bob costello was a very long practicing lawyer. he knows exactly what objection. sustained means, and he can kept going. and that clearly infuriated the judge and the body language was terrible. and at that moment, the jury gets sent out of the room and you and i've talked about this before. i think jurors really, really focus in on the body language of the lawyers, particularly the judge and i think the jury saw everything they needed to see just in the facial expressions and the...
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but bob costello to me was blockbuster totally contradicts everything michael cohen said and apparently gave a waiver on attorney client privilege. my question to you is, what should they do on cross? should they call costello in light of today? and what other witnesses would you call? how would you handle the rest of this case? if you're donald trump's attorney? >> well, the most important witness in the case, other than costello he's called, is the one that nobody will hear from. and that is alan weasel berg. he almost certainly contradicts what cohen has said. that's why the government won't call him. >> the government can easily call him. they could give him immunity. they can grab him from jail and put them on the witness stand. he's, you know, 15 minutes away. and the key point in the case is going to be the missing whistle witness instruction. ladies and gentlemen of the jury. what does the government have to hide? why aren't putting alan. we felt berg on the witness. and then i would ask cohen, did you have any discussions, the prosecution, about wiesel, or did you tell them tha
but bob costello to me was blockbuster totally contradicts everything michael cohen said and apparently gave a waiver on attorney client privilege. my question to you is, what should they do on cross? should they call costello in light of today? and what other witnesses would you call? how would you handle the rest of this case? if you're donald trump's attorney? >> well, the most important witness in the case, other than costello he's called, is the one that nobody will hear from. and...
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costs are like bob costello. he is someone who obviously thrills the right with the way that he attacks michael cohen's character. i'm sure he thrilled donald trump with his testimony last week in front of the house committee. but in a courthouse house that is not the tone and the demeanor. i mean, we talk all the time about how judge merchan is a very soft-spoken judge. he does not want people. he does not raise his voice. >> and the general conduct of council, prosecution and defense is even toned and measure an even when they are making objection or something like that unfold in this courthouse it's it's a sideshow let me the judge judge, i mean, what do you make? the judge handled it. well, you know my first comment would be just another de at office for judge merchan. >> i mean, i can't even imagine i would levitate out of my seat if i had a witness who is a lawyer an officer of the court, and knows better than to talk over me and give me the i when he sitting there, i think he handled it perfectly to warn h
costs are like bob costello. he is someone who obviously thrills the right with the way that he attacks michael cohen's character. i'm sure he thrilled donald trump with his testimony last week in front of the house committee. but in a courthouse house that is not the tone and the demeanor. i mean, we talk all the time about how judge merchan is a very soft-spoken judge. he does not want people. he does not raise his voice. >> and the general conduct of council, prosecution and defense is...
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there is about an hour or so left of cross examination of this witness, bob costello, the lawyer that was advising legal michael cohen at one point but this is the bulk of the defense case, is trying to undercut michael cohen. so the jury, when they go back to deliberations, they're going to be having to think about what the closing arguments are, the summation that donald trump's legal team gives, but they also don't have a lot to work with. and it includes this moment when of disruption that was so odd. write it right at the end of court four or 5:00 p.m. where everybody had to leave the courtroom and the judge was clearly unhappy at that time it was aboard the defense does not have to present a case. >> it's really the government's burden. the defense more often than not just says no further or nothing. it doesn't put any witnesses so any witness of the defense puts up ought to be someone that really brings something to the case or undermines a significant point that the prosecution of brought up and what they did here was sort of waste everyone's time by putting up a witness that
there is about an hour or so left of cross examination of this witness, bob costello, the lawyer that was advising legal michael cohen at one point but this is the bulk of the defense case, is trying to undercut michael cohen. so the jury, when they go back to deliberations, they're going to be having to think about what the closing arguments are, the summation that donald trump's legal team gives, but they also don't have a lot to work with. and it includes this moment when of disruption that...
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i think also though bob costello testified before congress a few days ago. he has been on the media circuit talking about his feelings about the case. and clearly he is exasperated by the whole situation. apparently he had hundreds of videos between himself and michael cohen that he tried to get in before the grand jury when he testified there and the da's office would not allow him to bring those into evidence. they only took six of them apparently zof i think he is upset about the whole way the case has proceeded and i think that came through today, his feelings towards the whole process. and how does that interaction play with the jury anne—marie? it depends. he is a very seasoned attorney. i don't think they are going to be able to find any instances of... under oath. they can take it either way. they can take it either way. they may look at it and say, boy, that is a real lawyer there, who is trying to say something and they keep interrupting and not letting him get what he wants to say across. or they may look at it and say, boy he is a really obnoxi
i think also though bob costello testified before congress a few days ago. he has been on the media circuit talking about his feelings about the case. and clearly he is exasperated by the whole situation. apparently he had hundreds of videos between himself and michael cohen that he tried to get in before the grand jury when he testified there and the da's office would not allow him to bring those into evidence. they only took six of them apparently zof i think he is upset about the whole way...
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and that witness was bob costello — probably the only witness that the defence were going to call and they were using him to try and undermine the testimony of michael cohen, to portray him to be a liar — and that's because mr cohen is the key witness for the prosecution. he is donald trump's former fixer, the man who handed over the $130,000 in hush money to stormy daniels, and he's also the witness who says that donald trump did personally know about the fraudulent scheme to disguise, as legal expenses, the reimbursement of that hush money. now there was another dramatic moment today when michael cohen himself was on the stand, and he was forced to admit that around the time all this was happening, he stole money from the trump organization. he made a payment of $20,000 to a tech firm, and told donald trump that he'd actually paid out 50 grand — and kept the difference of $30,000 for himself. now that is clearly theft. and a lot of the prosecution's case really does come down to whether or not the jury believe the story that michael cohen has been telling them about what happene
and that witness was bob costello — probably the only witness that the defence were going to call and they were using him to try and undermine the testimony of michael cohen, to portray him to be a liar — and that's because mr cohen is the key witness for the prosecution. he is donald trump's former fixer, the man who handed over the $130,000 in hush money to stormy daniels, and he's also the witness who says that donald trump did personally know about the fraudulent scheme to disguise, as...