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they were arguing the defense is making two different arguments on michael cohen, that conflicted with one. >> they were also pointing out that michael cohen wants credit for things and certainly wants attention for the things he has done. so the idea that he would have done this without donald trump's knowledge just is not that he's going to want to get the credit from donald trump for having done this. >> also suggesting when they talk about the credit issue that michael cohen was trying to care carefully tailor his testimony to speak to things that other witnesses have testified about, like hope hicks, he had he carefully tailored his testimony. they the defense argued to try to make donald trump look worse they were trying to argue that michael cohen was being strategic about trying to create the aid. an evidence pool that looked bad for donald trump i got that was important for them to say, i'm not sure that it really did the whole job, but it was important for them to point out that the inconsistencies add up to something when it comes to cohen, which is that he has an interest i
they were arguing the defense is making two different arguments on michael cohen, that conflicted with one. >> they were also pointing out that michael cohen wants credit for things and certainly wants attention for the things he has done. so the idea that he would have done this without donald trump's knowledge just is not that he's going to want to get the credit from donald trump for having done this. >> also suggesting when they talk about the credit issue that michael cohen was...
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scheme worked. >> what was the purpose of grossing up the amount, essentially doubling what you had paid to miss clifford and others? >> if you pay $130,000, and you live in new york where you have a 50% tax bracket, in order to get your 130 back, you have to have 20 -- 260. if he gave me back 130, i would be out $65,000. >> what was the purpose of spreading the reimbursements to you over the 12 monthly installments? >> to hide what the payment was. i wanted the money in one shot. would have preferred it that way. to be able to put it on the books, allen weisselberg made the decision that it should be paid over the 12 months so that it would look like a retainer. >> did mr. trump know about this reimbursement method? >> he knew about everything, yes. >> thank you, mr. cohen. the president not only knew about the payments, he knew and helped to hide it to you? >> we discussed it. everything had to go through mr. trump and approved by mr. trump. >> donald trump walking up to the line of a threat of incarceration because of his vitriol toward michael cohen. that's what michael cohen wi
scheme worked. >> what was the purpose of grossing up the amount, essentially doubling what you had paid to miss clifford and others? >> if you pay $130,000, and you live in new york where you have a 50% tax bracket, in order to get your 130 back, you have to have 20 -- 260. if he gave me back 130, i would be out $65,000. >> what was the purpose of spreading the reimbursements to you over the 12 monthly installments? >> to hide what the payment was. i wanted the money in...
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and then the grossing up, it's all memorialized right there. that's not a retainer. and with respect to the checks, yes. donald trump signed these checks with his pen. and what do we know about the former president? we know that he pays attention to every penny. >> what he was certainly there just to add to that about for updates ago. not important over here. on the screen the joshua steinglass had noted and plight specifically this point that it sort of remarkable that the math keeps adding up here, no matter whether you look at the checks, look at the testimony, look at witnesses, testified independently of each other. you all seem to and they all seem to end at this $130,000 plus $50,000 payments and so on. now again, that's not proof positive of a conviction here, but it's a note that testimony and math also seems to add up. >> it's nine glass just pointed out that no one could sign the donald trump checks besides donald trump? >> now, an argument could be made that to the extent the jury can split charges here, which would be a little odd, but you have because y
and then the grossing up, it's all memorialized right there. that's not a retainer. and with respect to the checks, yes. donald trump signed these checks with his pen. and what do we know about the former president? we know that he pays attention to every penny. >> what he was certainly there just to add to that about for updates ago. not important over here. on the screen the joshua steinglass had noted and plight specifically this point that it sort of remarkable that the math keeps...
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. >> he took us through the knows that allen weisselberg made of the gross step scheme. and then he put trump in two meetings, one with him and weisselberg in trump tower another in the white house, buying into that scheme, if you believe michael cohen, i think the jury does proof beyond a reasonable doubt that donald trump falsified those records, normalize and thank you. >> greg saying a great account of what happened today. quick programming note this friday with the hush money trial in recessed or miss a three 60 special my interview with karen mcdougal, i talked to her back in 2018 right after the story broke of her alleged affair with the former president's something he denies since the only tv interview, she's ever done, watch the interview this friday at 8:00 p.m. eastern. the news continuous including cnn as cover to the trump hush money trial rafter break when the competition is a nuclear competition, spying is extraordinarily important for russia as we're trying to spy on us we were spying on them it's very difficult to determine whom you can trust. >> i was s
. >> he took us through the knows that allen weisselberg made of the gross step scheme. and then he put trump in two meetings, one with him and weisselberg in trump tower another in the white house, buying into that scheme, if you believe michael cohen, i think the jury does proof beyond a reasonable doubt that donald trump falsified those records, normalize and thank you. >> greg saying a great account of what happened today. quick programming note this friday with the hush money...
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what heisenberg and trump tower, another in the white house, buying into that scheme, if you believe michael cohen, i think the jury does proof beyond a reasonable doubt that donald trump falsified those records, normalize it. thank you. >> greg, saying a great account of what happened today. quick programming note this friday with the hush money trial in recessed or miss a three 60 special my interview with karen mcdougal, i talked to her back in 2018 right after the story broke of her alleged affair with the former president's something he denied as it's the only tv interview. she's ever done. watch the interview this friday at 8:00 p.m. eastern. >> that's it for us. the news continues right after a break when the competition is a nuclear competition, spying is extraordinarily important russia we're trying to spy on us we were spying on them it's very difficult to determine whom you can trust i was telling frank everything got out of control this is a war. the secret was the secrets in spies, a nuclear game premier sunday, june 2, that ten on cnn how far would you go to control the fragran
what heisenberg and trump tower, another in the white house, buying into that scheme, if you believe michael cohen, i think the jury does proof beyond a reasonable doubt that donald trump falsified those records, normalize it. thank you. >> greg, saying a great account of what happened today. quick programming note this friday with the hush money trial in recessed or miss a three 60 special my interview with karen mcdougal, i talked to her back in 2018 right after the story broke of her...
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but we now hear that allen weisselberg and michael cohen went and talked to donald trump for signoff on it. it's just another meeting now that michael cohen has been able to place donald trump in. the documents do a huge amount of work in this case, but the intent's got to come from the actors, and that's now what we're seeing. i think michael cohen's brought that together both in this latest exchange that we just talked about that vaughn mentioned at the end and in the other ones that happened today and we're starting to see a picture of intent. we're going to see how the jury ultimately will find out if they believed him or not. that's where we're marching toward. >> what's interesting is that you go back to how the day unfolded. and i thought this -- the stuff -- i didn't know where you were going at the beginning, i thought you were going to say it was boring. it was tense, the most opaque to me. i didn't know michael cohen when he loved trump and was in his orbit. it's central -- i've said this every day, i'll say it again, nobody has any idea how anyone is playing with the jury
but we now hear that allen weisselberg and michael cohen went and talked to donald trump for signoff on it. it's just another meeting now that michael cohen has been able to place donald trump in. the documents do a huge amount of work in this case, but the intent's got to come from the actors, and that's now what we're seeing. i think michael cohen's brought that together both in this latest exchange that we just talked about that vaughn mentioned at the end and in the other ones that happened...
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cohen for legal services even if it was grossed up in certain ways because he was performing some legal services, even it well, the issue is how much of the repayment was for the hundred and 30,000 yeah. and how much of it was for actual legal services and they're going to get to if they haven't already, they're gonna get to this argument about how cheap their client is, right? how many people have testified about how cheapy is. >> but the one question that i've asked both will drop attorneys this and we've had the vod people use drivers that trump. >> did you ever get grossed up legal fees? >> when you were an attorney? it doesn't happen. that's not normal. i mean, that's the really one retort to that is that you don't grows up legal fees and again depending on if you believe michael cohen, was this repayment plan for the hundred and $30,000 are not and that's the question. >> what the jury believes in this case. however, the scheme was oriented to pay it back. >> we've got former federal prosecutor, at least adamson here with us, an elisa. i'm glad to have you in this moment because a
cohen for legal services even if it was grossed up in certain ways because he was performing some legal services, even it well, the issue is how much of the repayment was for the hundred and 30,000 yeah. and how much of it was for actual legal services and they're going to get to if they haven't already, they're gonna get to this argument about how cheap their client is, right? how many people have testified about how cheapy is. >> but the one question that i've asked both will drop...
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there's a redirect by the prosecution, the gross rider works for the author franklin says, the prosecution is just following up with a few redirected questions to make some clarifications, i'm sorry. sorry for interrupting michael no, that's okay. >> no, i was just going to tell you that when she denied it, michael cohen essentially got a denial from her to give to us and her lawyer or former leuser keep davidson, testify last week that those denials were like carefully crafted two, essentially not be technically untrue. like she said, that she didn't have an affair with trump, but in fact, she only had sex with him one time. so there was a lot of like, sort of careful wording there in terms of stormy daniels the relationship between her and keith davidson what was that like do you know? they actually did not really have a relationships, so she had an agent named gina rodriguez at the time who was herself a former porn actress, who represented a lot of sort of like third tier celebrities who wanted to. they had essentially dirt like tiger woods. mr. says, and people who had relationships w
there's a redirect by the prosecution, the gross rider works for the author franklin says, the prosecution is just following up with a few redirected questions to make some clarifications, i'm sorry. sorry for interrupting michael no, that's okay. >> no, i was just going to tell you that when she denied it, michael cohen essentially got a denial from her to give to us and her lawyer or former leuser keep davidson, testify last week that those denials were like carefully crafted two,...
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that that was helping michael cohen commit tax fraud because this wasn't income. this was a reimbursement and they're trying to make it look like income that is going to be something the jury understands. and i think it's going to that's going to be i think where where the strongest case has been emerging for the prosecution and now the jury is being shown a fedex invoice from may 29, 2017. >> let's remind the jury if we can to how you make $1 out of $0.15, right? >> how do you make 100? and $30,000 payment into $420,000? you can you tell me i have a tablet life. i mean i could, but then i have to quote other rap lyrics at the tablet here, right? you've got the 130,000. i'll put it in green. that was made to stormy daniels. right. then they added onto that, the $50,000 followers for the tech firm that gave the online poll ratings then that total is 180,000 they went gate that michael cohen and double that essentially giving him an extra hundred and 80,000. now we're at three and 60. why they wanted to know that he had the same amount of money after his taxes were
that that was helping michael cohen commit tax fraud because this wasn't income. this was a reimbursement and they're trying to make it look like income that is going to be something the jury understands. and i think it's going to that's going to be i think where where the strongest case has been emerging for the prosecution and now the jury is being shown a fedex invoice from may 29, 2017. >> let's remind the jury if we can to how you make $1 out of $0.15, right? >> how do you make...
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it was actually because it was grossed up. it was $60,000. cohen? yes, sir. again, he has not being prosecuted for that. i completely take your point here, but his credibility what you're saying is that this notion of pin been minute on the stand that he stole from donald trump and the trump organization. you think that's going to have absolutely no impact on the jury? >> i can't predict absolutely no impact. that's an extreme way of expressing it. no, i wouldn't use that extreme language. i would say the jury has common sense, unlike mr. trustee, i believe in the jury system, i wouldn't say an alabama jury versus a manhattan jury. so the juries have to decide factually two questions where's the money primarily politically motivated? the testimony of ms hicks and david pecker and keith alexander, her lawyers say it was campaign oriented, don't need to care about that particular problem of michael cohen to decide that second more important is the weisselberg document. again, let me be clear, dana proves that donald trump lied about legal fees. it was not legal
it was actually because it was grossed up. it was $60,000. cohen? yes, sir. again, he has not being prosecuted for that. i completely take your point here, but his credibility what you're saying is that this notion of pin been minute on the stand that he stole from donald trump and the trump organization. you think that's going to have absolutely no impact on the jury? >> i can't predict absolutely no impact. that's an extreme way of expressing it. no, i wouldn't use that extreme...
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that i've spoken to during this trial has been able to explain why legal fees would be grossed up. that is not how legal fees are paid. you don't grouse them up for taxes, you pay them the amount and that is what they put on there. welcome and so that is really been a hole here. and of course a reminder, there are two attorneys on this jury who know how this works and know that you don't get gross up legal fees. >> the other thing i wonder about, i mean, i often try to put myself in the mind of a juror and if i'm a juror watching this cavalcade of do you know characters coming in and testifying and all their credibility is being attacked by one side or the other. the common thread through all of them is donald trump, that these are the people that donald trump had in his orbit. >> this is like jake, has heard john, i think it's a bar scene out of star wars. >> i mean, the people incredible scheming lying. these are the people, not the best people around donald trump. and again, does that influence a jury to think donald trump is the one common force connecting all these people. doe
that i've spoken to during this trial has been able to explain why legal fees would be grossed up. that is not how legal fees are paid. you don't grouse them up for taxes, you pay them the amount and that is what they put on there. welcome and so that is really been a hole here. and of course a reminder, there are two attorneys on this jury who know how this works and know that you don't get gross up legal fees. >> the other thing i wonder about, i mean, i often try to put myself in the...