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as far as mr.mpting to call him because he does completely contradict michael cohen but it's also risky. why? because costello had a relationship with michael cohen that ended badly. it seems all of michael cohen's relationships end badly and what will that do for the prosecution? it will give them some fodder to question him on that. what is costello's motivation? it's his motivation to get cohen because we think cohen's motivation is to get from here if they need him i would like to seen neither of those witnesses. they don't need win more, they need to win period. they are in a good spot to do that without those terkel potential witnesses. >> sandra: i think we're learning more about this discussion that took place when they did reenter the courtroom i believe before the cross-examination began. after lunch we are told from our producer inside the courtroom that the prosecutor, john stamos, says the question when cohen learned the indictment was unsealed is improper and the court should clear up
as far as mr.mpting to call him because he does completely contradict michael cohen but it's also risky. why? because costello had a relationship with michael cohen that ended badly. it seems all of michael cohen's relationships end badly and what will that do for the prosecution? it will give them some fodder to question him on that. what is costello's motivation? it's his motivation to get cohen because we think cohen's motivation is to get from here if they need him i would like to seen...
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and after a warning or two mr. costello did not heed that warning, and so the judge i think did what judges do, which is make it clear that decorum will prevail in his courtroom. so even after that we saw objections to questions for robert costello. you know, just reading the record and not being in the courtroom, he comes across to me as sort of a thug. and it really feeds into the narrative that the prosecution is trying to portray here, that this is someone who came in to intimidate michael cohen and to say things like you have friends in high places, you should sleep well tonight, you know, the kinds of things a mobster says to keep somebody in the fold. and so if they're trying to defeat that narrative, they're not doing a very good job so far. >> and barbara, 30-second last answer here. after costello, do we have a sense what the defense might do next? will they rest and we move onto closing arguments? >> they've, you know, tried to get in this expert witness to testify about the law, but of course the law is
and after a warning or two mr. costello did not heed that warning, and so the judge i think did what judges do, which is make it clear that decorum will prevail in his courtroom. so even after that we saw objections to questions for robert costello. you know, just reading the record and not being in the courtroom, he comes across to me as sort of a thug. and it really feeds into the narrative that the prosecution is trying to portray here, that this is someone who came in to intimidate michael...
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upon what was reported being the body language of the jury during the defense case when they put on mr. costello i think they pretty much made up their minds. >> another we're going to go back there and it's going to be an issue to me of which way the lawyers on the jury go. and if they are together, that's where i think the jury is going to go if they take separate ways, then that's a little bit more differential. but i think that they pretty much are going to follow the instruction that says you can believe all any part part of or none of what a witness says. that means they can look at michael cohen and say it didn't believe this, but the rest of it seems to be corroborated and i believe that and so that's kind of the way that you feel when you made reference to the lawyers just for those who may have forgotten their two attorneys that make up part of that jury pool. >> all right judge. >> jeff swartz. thanks. because how much? >> great to see you. >> have a great day for it thank you. >> are we coming up? i knew details on the cause of professional golfer grayson murray is death ru
upon what was reported being the body language of the jury during the defense case when they put on mr. costello i think they pretty much made up their minds. >> another we're going to go back there and it's going to be an issue to me of which way the lawyers on the jury go. and if they are together, that's where i think the jury is going to go if they take separate ways, then that's a little bit more differential. but i think that they pretty much are going to follow the instruction that...
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. >> hoffinger just said did you ever sign an agreement with mr. costello. i believe that's robert costello, who might be another witness that comes up for the defense. might be. and was an associate of giuliani. and cohen says no, ma'am. but he doesn't just say no, ma'am. he goes on to say i didn't trust him. i didn't like the way he kept on invoking rudy giuliani. why was he allowed to add that other stuff? >> well, you know, once the witness starts answering, unless the defense objects, he can continue and this is one of the risks i think that you can expose as a defense lawyer. you can expose yourself to is it once you open the door to testimony about somebody like bob costello, you don't know what's coming next. i think this speculation that costello will testify is very interesting. because in large part, he would be offered to impeach cohen's credibility, to say what cohen is saying on the witness stand today is different than what he told bob costello when he was acting as an intermediary between cohen and trump. >> but joyce, wasn't he conflicted be
. >> hoffinger just said did you ever sign an agreement with mr. costello. i believe that's robert costello, who might be another witness that comes up for the defense. might be. and was an associate of giuliani. and cohen says no, ma'am. but he doesn't just say no, ma'am. he goes on to say i didn't trust him. i didn't like the way he kept on invoking rudy giuliani. why was he allowed to add that other stuff? >> well, you know, once the witness starts answering, unless the defense...
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there was one defense witness called, mr.llo, who was very disrespectful to the judge, and the judge shut that down immediately, but did that outside the presence of the jury so he would not be in any way communicating to the jury's view about this witness. so i thought he really did a remarkable job controlling the courtroom. maintaining order. and also running things very efficiently. this trial concluded far sooner than many of us anticipated one. -- it would. amna: walk us through what happens next logistically. we are talking a former president under secret service protection. after a conviction like this, what happens? renato: he is out on bond. he is not imprisoned. there will be a sentencing. that date has been set. july 11 by the judge. that is of course in the midst of the presidential election. the judge will have that sentencing in the courtroom and donald trump will need to be there in court again. i do not expect that the former president will be sentenced to a sentence of imprisonment. i would be very surprised
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whether that might be, i don't know, one of the attorneys that michael cohen almost worked with, like mr. costello, or do they plan on calling keith schiller, the body man, since he's been the center of so much of this testimony that now is conflicting, or do they decide to call donald trump himself? they have not said what they plan on doing. we will get an answer, though, sooner than later as it is pretty apparent that the prosecution is close to finishing. >> yeah, and meanwhile, there has been no real focus on -- from the defense on the documents, documents that have been presented in a very consistent fashion for weeks now. but that has been totally ignored by the defense. barbara, what are you looking for on monday? >> well, i think we're going to get some additional cross examination and some rebuttal by the prosecution and it will be interesting to see how much time the prosecution spends on rebuttal. sometimes to me a real power move in court was to stand up and say the government has no questions for this witness. mr. cohen, it says to the jury, i don't think they laid a finger
whether that might be, i don't know, one of the attorneys that michael cohen almost worked with, like mr. costello, or do they plan on calling keith schiller, the body man, since he's been the center of so much of this testimony that now is conflicting, or do they decide to call donald trump himself? they have not said what they plan on doing. we will get an answer, though, sooner than later as it is pretty apparent that the prosecution is close to finishing. >> yeah, and meanwhile, there...
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consideration for the defense is whether it's going to open any other doors up with any credibility attacks on mrself and convolute the issue versus just arguing reasonable doubt in closing and arguing that the prosecution failed to meet their burden because they have more than enough at this point to do it. >> brian: fast-forward monday is going to be a redirect from the prosecution. the prosecutor goes i don't have any more witnesses. if you don't call bob costello, how long would you go for a defense. >> they might rest out the gate. i think they are going to call one witness, maybe an expert regarding the accounting issues and fec aspect of the claim that this was an election interference which is not a bad idea. in fact the prosecution should have put up an expert in that respect as well. they failed to do that as well. another failure of proof in the case. >> brian: getting in the back stretch some thought before memorial day. probably not going to get through memorial day but probably right after. katie, thank you very much, carley shimkus always fascinating. >> carley: i do have more head
consideration for the defense is whether it's going to open any other doors up with any credibility attacks on mrself and convolute the issue versus just arguing reasonable doubt in closing and arguing that the prosecution failed to meet their burden because they have more than enough at this point to do it. >> brian: fast-forward monday is going to be a redirect from the prosecution. the prosecutor goes i don't have any more witnesses. if you don't call bob costello, how long would you...
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he is saying putting -- talking about mr. costello, mr.en taking the witness stand and lying to you, that's another example of it. he went on to say, i don't know how many lies are enough lies to just reject mr. cohen's testimony, big or small, meaningful or unmeaningful, but that was a lie. it's interesting that that seems to be what he comes back to in every single instance. he goes off michael cohen for a little while. but he always comes back to, michael cohen is at the heart of this but is a liar. is the risk, the jury says michael cohen isn't on trial here and maybe i do believe the central parts of his testimony? >> his testimony is corroborated. they are focusing in like a laser on certain moments where they contend michael cohen lied to the jury. for example, there was a moment in his direct examination michael cohen said, i never wanted to be chief of staff. they cross-examined him and scored points on that. there were emails showing he wanted to be chief of staff. he said, i never disputed the underlying facts of my tax crimes.
he is saying putting -- talking about mr. costello, mr.en taking the witness stand and lying to you, that's another example of it. he went on to say, i don't know how many lies are enough lies to just reject mr. cohen's testimony, big or small, meaningful or unmeaningful, but that was a lie. it's interesting that that seems to be what he comes back to in every single instance. he goes off michael cohen for a little while. but he always comes back to, michael cohen is at the heart of this but is...
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and once the jury was out of the room, he turned to costello and said, mr. costello, i want to i would like to discuss proper decorum in my courtroom. costello interrupts him and says, but i'm sorry, go ahead, judge. merchan, i want to discuss proper decorum my courtroom castellows is right. judge has okay. so when there's a witness on the stand, if you don't like my ruling, you don't say jeez. okay. and then you don't say strike it because i'm the only one that can strike testimony in the courtroom. do you understand that costello says, i understand. judge has okay. and then if you don't like my ruling, you don't give me sayyed and you don't really we are eyes, do you understand that? do you understand that casella said, i understand that. i understand what you're saying. we're sean said, okay. thank you. let's get the jury back and then there's this moment where the judge says to him, are you staring me down right now and castula says, no, i'm just wondering how and the judge is clear. the courtroom. clear the courtroom, chaos ensues does are trying to mor
and once the jury was out of the room, he turned to costello and said, mr. costello, i want to i would like to discuss proper decorum in my courtroom. costello interrupts him and says, but i'm sorry, go ahead, judge. merchan, i want to discuss proper decorum my courtroom castellows is right. judge has okay. so when there's a witness on the stand, if you don't like my ruling, you don't say jeez. okay. and then you don't say strike it because i'm the only one that can strike testimony in the...
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there's a number of points that e-mails from mr.tello are read into evidence, that have a very, you know, mob movie feel to them. kind of combination of flattery and menace in equal measures. you're loved. you have friends in high places. sleep well tonight. trying to set up a back channel that michael cohen can communicate to rudy giuliani, who is representing the president as his client. all that part, i was watching the jury during that portion. it was quite colorful. none of it felt like the kinds of machinations of the way he could be implicated. it seemed like an intent and pressureful campaign that brought to bear on michael cohen to keep him from, quote, flipping. and enter into evidence are tweets by the president of the united states. talking about flipping, expressing disappointment when he has. i thought that was a highlight. and the most interesting part of the day, in some ways, and probably the most important, was the last hour was essentially a prebuttal of the cross, in which, susan hoffinger went through all of the
there's a number of points that e-mails from mr.tello are read into evidence, that have a very, you know, mob movie feel to them. kind of combination of flattery and menace in equal measures. you're loved. you have friends in high places. sleep well tonight. trying to set up a back channel that michael cohen can communicate to rudy giuliani, who is representing the president as his client. all that part, i was watching the jury during that portion. it was quite colorful. none of it felt like...
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and if mr. costello can punch a big hole and their key witnesses credibility and again, all the all the difference needs is it doubt in one juror. and i think that could be pretty effective and du got a point to make here. yeah. >> i would not call costello because calling attorneys in any case it's always bad because it would open up the door to other things on cross by the prosecutors i would not call him, but mr. blanche, after this bombshell moment the october 24 call nobody reported on this. a lot about an hour later, michael cohen said, yes, i lied in 2017 before congress, and i read a statement that was a total lie but who gave me the words that went on that statement, either mr. trump or his attorney gave me those words. that is a prosecutor. that southern nation a perjury. and if dado hammer that on cron closing or never a bottle, the prosecutors are committing malpractice so the lie that he relate to congress, was fed to him by trump or his attorney, right? in your accusing cohen, be a
and if mr. costello can punch a big hole and their key witnesses credibility and again, all the all the difference needs is it doubt in one juror. and i think that could be pretty effective and du got a point to make here. yeah. >> i would not call costello because calling attorneys in any case it's always bad because it would open up the door to other things on cross by the prosecutors i would not call him, but mr. blanche, after this bombshell moment the october 24 call nobody reported...
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why did they have to bring on mr. costello? towards the very end, the defense team where i think everybody by the end of it and i'm by no means a legal expert was sitting they got what they didn't seem great. >> yeah. i think that's right. so a lot of times when you have a case, one you're doing what your client wants you to do. so that's the first answer, but oftentimes you think that you have to meet the government's force of evidence and say you think, look, i have to call certain witnesses because certainly we've had an opportunity to destroy michael cohen's credibility. but what about our case? and certainly the client is like, well, what about our case? and i think it's hard sometimes to know you are ahead leave these things alone and i think the defense probably did too much once they called costello, but i will say i do think that when people say it looks slim, he might be, he might be found guilty, but there's a chance he might be acquitted. that just means there's reasonable doubt. he should be acquitted. >> the idea
why did they have to bring on mr. costello? towards the very end, the defense team where i think everybody by the end of it and i'm by no means a legal expert was sitting they got what they didn't seem great. >> yeah. i think that's right. so a lot of times when you have a case, one you're doing what your client wants you to do. so that's the first answer, but oftentimes you think that you have to meet the government's force of evidence and say you think, look, i have to call certain...
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costello but they can relate it to the florida case where there's two types of obstruction.n tens of scenarios in the mueller investigation. all of that is fair game, and it's up to the judge to decide how much of that he thinks is useful or not useful. on the other side, the judge is going to be thinking it's an e felony, the lowest level felony in new york. it is a first time offender. so those are all sort of factors on one side. i do think one thing that will weigh on him is that the complete, not just lack of contrition, but fomenting a complete disrespect for the rule of law and the whole idea that you can commit a crime with impunity, and that he's not just doing it for himself, he's saying that to everyone in the same way that he was the leader of the -- not just the alleged conspiracy, he is now been found to be the leader of the conspiracy that was found by the jury beyond a reasonable doubt. that is a factor that that is definitely to be considered, and then as we have been talking about the fact that somebody who has participated in this very crime went to jail i
costello but they can relate it to the florida case where there's two types of obstruction.n tens of scenarios in the mueller investigation. all of that is fair game, and it's up to the judge to decide how much of that he thinks is useful or not useful. on the other side, the judge is going to be thinking it's an e felony, the lowest level felony in new york. it is a first time offender. so those are all sort of factors on one side. i do think one thing that will weigh on him is that the...
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did you have any doubt it was you who initiated that communication with mr. costello. i don't recall if i asked him to reach out to giuliani other than i expressed to him. around the time your relationship ends, cohen, yes, sir, and blanche, you met a couple of times. privileged communication. where are they going with this, misty? >> i think they're trying to undercut the prosecution's testimony, which basically set this up as michael cohen was communicating with costello as this conduit to donald trump. there was this whole link in the chain with rudy giuliani being in the middle, and this was how he was going to communicate with trump about the legal trouble he was in. we heard that on the direct. from a defense perspective, and i agree with danny, i think they should just put the pens down and start to refocus on what matters in this case, and that's the legal issues about whether an nda can be violative in these facts and circumstances. i don't think they're going to. >> can you repeat that again. >> an nda, untouched money is not dispositive, it's not necessary i
did you have any doubt it was you who initiated that communication with mr. costello. i don't recall if i asked him to reach out to giuliani other than i expressed to him. around the time your relationship ends, cohen, yes, sir, and blanche, you met a couple of times. privileged communication. where are they going with this, misty? >> i think they're trying to undercut the prosecution's testimony, which basically set this up as michael cohen was communicating with costello as this conduit...
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an attorney bernie, and the judge actually, the questioning of mr. costello became so contentious that the judge actually, through the audience out of the courtroom, which included many reporters but there were exchanges that we witnessed in then obviously we learned from the transcript later he had a couple of warnings. >> one of them was that he was putting them on notice about his conduct being contemptuous. if you try to stare me down one more time, i will remove you from the stand. >> immer sean said, in another one costello tries to interject. >> he says can i say something, please? and merchan says, no this is not a conversation. what was going on with this witness? >> i actually have no idea because typically right. it's the judges courtroom. and so the fact that you have a witness showing up the judge in any type of way? it's honestly probably we expect it from michael cohen, which is why i was saying in some weird way is michael cohen had credibility, especially when you compare them. so castellows conduct after the fact one thing i think i
an attorney bernie, and the judge actually, the questioning of mr. costello became so contentious that the judge actually, through the audience out of the courtroom, which included many reporters but there were exchanges that we witnessed in then obviously we learned from the transcript later he had a couple of warnings. >> one of them was that he was putting them on notice about his conduct being contemptuous. if you try to stare me down one more time, i will remove you from the stand....
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costello, but i would be very, very surprised kaitlan if this defendant testifies, so you don't think do you think that they should call any other witnesses or just be done after michael cohen? >> well, i don't want to fall into the rabbit hole of armchair. quarterback because i hear a lot of people critiquing especially before he really hit his stride, mr. blanche and when you're in that position, so they've being a quarterback of the super bowl that people should really just as greyhound used to say, sit down to leave the driving gas, i don't know who they should call the case seemed to really hinge a lot on coal with all due respect to lanny davis. well, i've affection and respect for i heard is filibuster earlier about it. it's no big deal. come on you. it's this is what it comes down to. hush money payments are not illegal nda's are not illegal. i think abby hit it right when she said it all depends on tying it to that extra crime yet to do that late-90s big on this document. but where's weisselberg trump and weisselberg cohen, you only are from cohen who has an allergy to veraci
costello, but i would be very, very surprised kaitlan if this defendant testifies, so you don't think do you think that they should call any other witnesses or just be done after michael cohen? >> well, i don't want to fall into the rabbit hole of armchair. quarterback because i hear a lot of people critiquing especially before he really hit his stride, mr. blanche and when you're in that position, so they've being a quarterback of the super bowl that people should really just as...
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costello, that does not mean the burden shifts to them.burden still remains with the prosecution, and also will be told the prosecution loves this, reasonable doubt doesn't mean beyond any doubt, so those definitions are very important in addition to the substantive falsifying business records charge. >> diane, you serve as a judge in new york state. how do you typically go about the process of laying out these instructions? >> well, essentially you start as catherine indicated by a general overview of what the jury has to do. as catherine said, you have to keep the prosecutor to its burden. you have to make sure that you evaluate the testimony fairly and impartially. one important instruction is going to be that if you find anyone has testified falsely, you may disregard that person's entire testimony or you may disregard only that much of the testimony that you find false and accept the rest. that is going to be key when they are evaluating what michael cohen had to say. and, generally, after you do the sort of more general instructions,
costello, that does not mean the burden shifts to them.burden still remains with the prosecution, and also will be told the prosecution loves this, reasonable doubt doesn't mean beyond any doubt, so those definitions are very important in addition to the substantive falsifying business records charge. >> diane, you serve as a judge in new york state. how do you typically go about the process of laying out these instructions? >> well, essentially you start as catherine indicated by a...
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costello was far outweighed by the detriment of this interchange with judge merchan and the proof of that is we're sitting here tonight not talking about a disbarred lawyer stealing $60,000 from his client were talking about 30 plus times to three from that bright fringe, and then times two for the tax purposes and then get to that eventual four. yes. which is as you say, a bombshell instead, we're talking about this nonsense because a witness decides to make an all about himself elliott's right jurors like judges, as a rule. and i spent a lot of time with judge moore. can he's exceptionally likable. the he steven spielberg's version of a judge and the jury's it's not going to play well, the jury and again, just from a strategy standpoint, they knocked it out of the park today with this $60,000 theft. the world of attorney misdeeds ceiling from a client is like first-degree murder. i mean, we're talking about some guy that made all about himself, picked a battle. he couldn't win. >> the purpose of castello, it seems was to suggest that michael cohen was not to be believed that there
costello was far outweighed by the detriment of this interchange with judge merchan and the proof of that is we're sitting here tonight not talking about a disbarred lawyer stealing $60,000 from his client were talking about 30 plus times to three from that bright fringe, and then times two for the tax purposes and then get to that eventual four. yes. which is as you say, a bombshell instead, we're talking about this nonsense because a witness decides to make an all about himself elliott's...
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. >> but that they did and they ended with a categorically horrible witness, mr. costello, that corroborated michael cohen that was very bad for the defense, and i would remind them of that in my rebuttal. not in my initial closing you know to that point ron, if you're the defense, if you're todd blanche and his team, how are you approaching tomorrow ladies and gentlemen of the jury, you've heard the prosecution talk about timelines and this witness and that witness let's go right to the heart of the case. >> pretend you're getting surgery. surgery will decide your life for your death it's crucially important to you and you're lying there in the operating room the cold the lights, the people all around you, and you look up at the surgeon who will soon have your life in his hands and he pulls down his mask. >> and it's michael come do you just breathe a deep sigh of relief and allow yourself could be put on under or do you jump off that table, rip out that iv, and go running like hell out of that operating room because if you do, ladies and gentlemen of the jury, t
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while cohen is now implicating mr.rump in an alleged crime, costello testifying cohen told him back then, "i swear to god, bob, i don't have anything on donald trump." directly refuting cohen's testimony that mr. trump directed him to pay off stormy daniels before the 2016 election. "michael cohen said numerous times that president trump knew nothing about those payments and that he did this on his own," costello testifying. the judge repeatedly sustaining prosecution objections leading to a heated scolding of costello after he audibly muttered "ridiculous" and "jeez." the judge at one point saying, "are you staring me down?" and clearing the courtroom. all of it after cohen earlier revealed he stole tens of thousands of dollars from his former client. cohen, who once said he would take a bullet for mr. trump, today admitting he duped his old boss into reimbursing him more money than he was owed. cohen saying that he gave a tech company $20,000 in a brown paper bag and pocketed the rest. tens of thousands of dollars mo
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mr.e witness. it's quite curious. i'm sure joyce has a lot to say about that because mr. costello has already been the subject of a lot of evidence put in by the state of emails and texts with mr. cohen is that really suggested that he was acting on behalf of the former president to try and keep michael cohen in the fold to prevent him from cooperating. so it would be very interesting to see if he testifies because, i mean, perhaps the defense would get something. but i suspect the prosecution is more than ready to cross-examine him. remains to be seen whether that happens later today. >> all right. we'll get to joyce's opinion in just a moment. but right down the line, danny se value louse, might we see trump on the stand? >> doubt it. mika, i've been taking the underdog bet really for no other reason if he ended up testifying, i would have been the lone voice to say he was likely to testify. he's not likely to testify. that was just brazen self promotion on my part. he's very unlikely t
mr.e witness. it's quite curious. i'm sure joyce has a lot to say about that because mr. costello has already been the subject of a lot of evidence put in by the state of emails and texts with mr. cohen is that really suggested that he was acting on behalf of the former president to try and keep michael cohen in the fold to prevent him from cooperating. so it would be very interesting to see if he testifies because, i mean, perhaps the defense would get something. but i suspect the prosecution...
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mr.ial media account drawing attention. >> what happens after donald trump wins? >> reporter: the 30-second clip using a term associated with germany's nazi government referring to the creation of a unified rank among fictionalized newspaper headlines covering a trump victory in november. now, when asked about that post online, the trump campaign said, quote, this was not a campaign video. it was created by a random account online and re-posted by a staffer who clearly did not see the word while the president was in court. meanwhile, back in court, the defense moved to dismiss this entire case, arguing mr. trump's testimony simply cannot be believed. the judge did not seem inclined to take it out of the jury's hands right now saying, do you think he's going to fool 12 new yorkers? >> what a day in new york. >> extraordinary. >> the judge got irritated with this defense witness. clears everyone out of the of the room to scold him, essentially. why is this witness important to the case? as
mr.ial media account drawing attention. >> what happens after donald trump wins? >> reporter: the 30-second clip using a term associated with germany's nazi government referring to the creation of a unified rank among fictionalized newspaper headlines covering a trump victory in november. now, when asked about that post online, the trump campaign said, quote, this was not a campaign video. it was created by a random account online and re-posted by a staffer who clearly did not see...
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defence lawyers also called former legal adviser for mr cohen, robert costello, as a witness, promptingen and costello's testimony. this historic trial is winding down. prosecutors today rested their case, but before that the defence took another crack at trying to undermine michael cohen's credibility. the biggest blow they scored today was having michael cohen admit on the stand that he stole from his former boss, donald trump. michael cohen admitting he invoiced the trump organisation $50,000 for tech services from a company, but he then only pay the company $20,000 and pocketed the rest. he said he did that because he was angry about his bonus being cut. but when the prosecution came back and redirect they try to rehabilitate their star witness, refocusing jurors to the fact that michael cohen is not the one on trial and that michael cohen said he had no doubt that donald trump had authorised him to pay stormy daniels c100 $30,000 hush money payment over several conversations in october 2016. but that the most dramatic moment of this trial yet occurred when the defence began their c
defence lawyers also called former legal adviser for mr cohen, robert costello, as a witness, promptingen and costello's testimony. this historic trial is winding down. prosecutors today rested their case, but before that the defence took another crack at trying to undermine michael cohen's credibility. the biggest blow they scored today was having michael cohen admit on the stand that he stole from his former boss, donald trump. michael cohen admitting he invoiced the trump organisation...
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cohen says meaning bob costello and i was still remaining loyal to mr. trump trump and cohen is going to great lengths to describe this in his view, pressure campaign costello reaching out to him saying since you jumped off the phone rather abruptly, i did not get a chance to tell you that my friend, which is rudy giuliani, presumably billy, has communicated to me that he's meeting with his clients this evening. that would be donald trump and he added that if there's anything you want it to convey, you should tell me and my friend rudy giuliani will bring it up for discussion this evening hoffinger asks cohen why castula didn't just say giuliani and trump and sort of to be covert, cohen says it's all back channel. i spy ash. >> the lengthy email using cryptic messages about collins, stella's friend and his friends client continues to encourage cohen in this retelling to get a message to trump through rudy giuliani by his recollection, the email reference the potential of pre pardons. >> i believe we've please remember if you want or need to communicate s
cohen says meaning bob costello and i was still remaining loyal to mr. trump trump and cohen is going to great lengths to describe this in his view, pressure campaign costello reaching out to him saying since you jumped off the phone rather abruptly, i did not get a chance to tell you that my friend, which is rudy giuliani, presumably billy, has communicated to me that he's meeting with his clients this evening. that would be donald trump and he added that if there's anything you want it to...
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defence lawyers also called former legal adviser for mr cohen — robert costello — as a witness, promptingitness gets a dramatic dressing down by the judge. drum's lawyers got michael cohen to admit that he stole from his former boss. cohen built the trump organisation $50,000 to cover a $20,000 payment to an it company stop and he pocketed the rest he said because he was angry about his bonus being cut. prosecutorspent angry about his bonus being cut. prosecutor spent the end of their case rehabilitating their star witness, reminding their star witness, reminding the court he was not the one on trial and refocusing jurors mind on parts of his testimony that mattered. cohen reiterated that mattered. cohen reiterated that donald trump gave him a final sign off to pay the adult film star stormy daniels. he said speaking out turned his entire life upside down. and things got heated. the defence called attorney robert costello who offered to represent cohen when federal authorities were investigating him in 2018, when thejudge investigating him in 2018, when the judge sustained several of the
defence lawyers also called former legal adviser for mr cohen — robert costello — as a witness, promptingitness gets a dramatic dressing down by the judge. drum's lawyers got michael cohen to admit that he stole from his former boss. cohen built the trump organisation $50,000 to cover a $20,000 payment to an it company stop and he pocketed the rest he said because he was angry about his bonus being cut. prosecutorspent angry about his bonus being cut. prosecutor spent the end of their case...
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and the reason that bob costello matters here well, mr. costello and mr. cohen dispute whether it was a formal attorney client relationship, right? he was never formally retained. michael cohen did have to waive attorney-client privilege and costello is subsequently testified before the grand jury in this case. he testified before congress last week is because costello insists that while he was talking to cohen, cohen repeatedly told him that he had no evidence of criminal misconduct by trump at that time, and that, of course, his story change. so todd blanche is likely building to highlight that and how cohen's story eventually shifted. this is also why they'd want to put castello on the stand. he has testified publicly again, and before the grand jury tried to undercut cohen's credibility, it's unclear though, after what blanche has done here, that they'll really need mr. costello would appears to be workaround by bringing him up in front of mr. cohen as opposed to having to bring him in person. well, and this is an interesting point where they're showin
and the reason that bob costello matters here well, mr. costello and mr. cohen dispute whether it was a formal attorney client relationship, right? he was never formally retained. michael cohen did have to waive attorney-client privilege and costello is subsequently testified before the grand jury in this case. he testified before congress last week is because costello insists that while he was talking to cohen, cohen repeatedly told him that he had no evidence of criminal misconduct by trump...
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that's the term we use in the trade for cooperating that's ridiculous mr. costello, there presumably under oath before congress and that is what the jury will hear if the defense calls him. >> what do you call? bob costs you unquestionably. i've talked about castello extensively. and first of all, he didn't reach out to call on at the behest of rudy giuliani. this is before rudy giuliani represent the president but michael column reached out to his partner, mr. citroen, and then they brought bob castello in and bob castello sat with michael cohen extensively to try and convince him to cooperate against donald trump and mco. calm, didn't have anything now, later, and this is what he was talking about there when michael cohen did decide to try and cooperate with the southern district of new york. he tried to claim the bob gastel them pretty giuliani were dangling a pardon to try to get them to stay the course they opened an investigation, a criminal investigation into bob gastel and rudy giuliani for witness tampering. they brought bob castello in and what he
that's the term we use in the trade for cooperating that's ridiculous mr. costello, there presumably under oath before congress and that is what the jury will hear if the defense calls him. >> what do you call? bob costs you unquestionably. i've talked about castello extensively. and first of all, he didn't reach out to call on at the behest of rudy giuliani. this is before rudy giuliani represent the president but michael column reached out to his partner, mr. citroen, and then they...
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mr.mp damaging stories that could derail his 2016 campaign pointing to a key conversation secretly recorded by mr. trump's then attorney michael cohen, the star prosecution witness where mr. trump discussed the alleged payoff of a different woman and stein glass calling it jaw dropping. we didn't pick him up at the witness store, the defendant chose michael cohen, he said. telling jurors you don't need michael cohen to connect these dots. but as the ultimate insiders, he can do just that. the defense has also tried to discredit cohen as motivated to lie and desperate to put mr. trump behind bars and pointing to coy hen's own podcast. but steinglass took that head on arguing cohen is understandably angry because mr. trump dropped him like a hot potato after the feds came calling in 2018 and urging jurors to see this case not about michael cohen, it's about donald trump. in his closing arguments, trump attorney todd blanch tore into the prosecution's case and blasting cohen as the human emb
mr.mp damaging stories that could derail his 2016 campaign pointing to a key conversation secretly recorded by mr. trump's then attorney michael cohen, the star prosecution witness where mr. trump discussed the alleged payoff of a different woman and stein glass calling it jaw dropping. we didn't pick him up at the witness store, the defendant chose michael cohen, he said. telling jurors you don't need michael cohen to connect these dots. but as the ultimate insiders, he can do just that. the...
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to prevent cohen from flipping on mr. trump. confronted with emails suggesting he was frustrated. cohen refused to hire him, including one where he wrote, quote, cohen, quote, continues to slow play us and the president. is he totally nuts? he is playing with the most powerful man on the planet. costello suggested monday cohen's entire story, that trump plotted to protect his stormy daniels to protect his campaign was all a lie. telling jurors that michael cohen said numerous times that president trump knew nothing about those payments, and that cohen said he did this on his own. costello only one of two witnesses called by the defense team. the testimony all told running just over 90 minutes. >> there is no crime. there is no crime. it's a kangaroo court. there has never been anything like this that i've ever seen. >> reporter: the judge working with both sides for hours today to hash out critical instructions jurors will receive next week to aid their deliberations on the 34 counts mr. trump faces for allegedly falsifyi
to prevent cohen from flipping on mr. trump. confronted with emails suggesting he was frustrated. cohen refused to hire him, including one where he wrote, quote, cohen, quote, continues to slow play us and the president. is he totally nuts? he is playing with the most powerful man on the planet. costello suggested monday cohen's entire story, that trump plotted to protect his stormy daniels to protect his campaign was all a lie. telling jurors that michael cohen said numerous times that...
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cohen is implicating mr. trump and an alleged crime. costello testified that cohen told him, i don't have anything on donald trump. directly refuting the testimony that he was directed to pay off stormy daniels. michael cohen said numerous times president trump knew nothing about it and he did it on his own. the judge repeatedly sustaining objections leading to a heated scolding. the judge at one point saying are you staring me down q >> he had stolen tens of thousands of dollars. today admitting he duped his boss into reimbursing more money. he gave a tech company $20,000 in a brown paper bag and pocketed the rest. tens of thousands of dollars more. todd lamb saying you stole from the organization. later, he said he stole the money because we had not received a large enough bonus. the defense also suggesting cohen profited in other ways. pointing to the fact that he raked in over $4 million in consulting agreements while also serving as personal attorney is the defense that cohen is cashing in as a critic , making over $3 million on tw
cohen is implicating mr. trump and an alleged crime. costello testified that cohen told him, i don't have anything on donald trump. directly refuting the testimony that he was directed to pay off stormy daniels. michael cohen said numerous times president trump knew nothing about it and he did it on his own. the judge repeatedly sustaining objections leading to a heated scolding. the judge at one point saying are you staring me down q >> he had stolen tens of thousands of dollars. today...
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while cohen is now implicating mr. trump in an alleged crime, costello testifying cohen told him back then, i swear to god, bob, i don't have anything on donald trump. directly refuting his testimony that mr. trump directed him to pay off stormy daniels before the 2016 election. "michael cohen said numerous times that president trump knew nothing about those payments, and that he did this on his own." the judge sustaining prosecutions objections leading to a heated thing after muttering ridiculous and jeez. the judge at one point saying are you staring me down and clearing the courtroom. all of it after cohen earlier revealed he stole tens of thousands of dollars from his former client. cohen, who once said he would take a bullet for mr. trump, today admitted he duped his own boss into reimbursing him more money than owed. he gave a tech company $20,000 in a brown paper bag and pocketed the rest. tens of thousands of dollars more for himself. trump attorney todd blanch saying you stole from the trump organization, righ
while cohen is now implicating mr. trump in an alleged crime, costello testifying cohen told him back then, i swear to god, bob, i don't have anything on donald trump. directly refuting his testimony that mr. trump directed him to pay off stormy daniels before the 2016 election. "michael cohen said numerous times that president trump knew nothing about those payments, and that he did this on his own." the judge sustaining prosecutions objections leading to a heated thing after...
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and hoffinger asked, did mr. trump tell you anything about costello's background?ohen, he told me he was a criminal defense attorney and was close to rudy giuliani. raufinger says tell the jury about your conversation. cohen, i was distraught, nervous, concerned. he asked me to describe what had happened. it was many hours, many agents came. they took a series of books, documents, and i gave them a receipt of what was taken. with that, they turned around and said there are certain things you need to know. first is you have to obviously try to remember what's in those boxes. there are certain things i need to know, and to try to remember what they might be looking for. and then they asked me, robert costello, for my representation. some of these notes are coming from our reporters in the courtroom. hoffinger, did he tell you about his ties to giuliani? cohen, as close as you can imagine. and that would be a relationship that would be very beneficial to you going forward with this matter. cohen continues to say, mr. giuliani at the time had a very close relationship
and hoffinger asked, did mr. trump tell you anything about costello's background?ohen, he told me he was a criminal defense attorney and was close to rudy giuliani. raufinger says tell the jury about your conversation. cohen, i was distraught, nervous, concerned. he asked me to describe what had happened. it was many hours, many agents came. they took a series of books, documents, and i gave them a receipt of what was taken. with that, they turned around and said there are certain things you...
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directly refuting cohen's testimony that mr. trump directed him to pay off stormy daniels before the 2016 election. quote, michael cohen said numerous times that president trump knew nothing about those payments and that he did their on his own, costello testifying. the judge sustaining prosecution objections, and costello was muttering. the judge at one point saying, are you staring me down, and clearing the courtroom after cohen revealed he stole tens of thousands of dollars from his performer client. cohen, who once said he would take a bullet for mr. trump admitting he duped his old boss into reimbursing him more money than he was owed. he gave a tech company $20,000 in a brown paper bag and pocketed the rest, tens of thousands of more for himself. todd blanche saying you stole from the trump organization, right? cohen answering, yes, sir. later, when questioned by the prosecutor, cohen saying he stole the money because he had not received a large enough bonus, quote. i just felt like it was almost like self-help, cohen said
directly refuting cohen's testimony that mr. trump directed him to pay off stormy daniels before the 2016 election. quote, michael cohen said numerous times that president trump knew nothing about those payments and that he did their on his own, costello testifying. the judge sustaining prosecution objections, and costello was muttering. the judge at one point saying, are you staring me down, and clearing the courtroom after cohen revealed he stole tens of thousands of dollars from his...
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also has emails and texts to back this up. >> mr. brennan, let me start with you. if you were representing trump would you call castello as a witness absolutely. >> why the testimony he just gave apparently, if i understood it right, this was just in the last 24 hours he went in yesterday. >> that was in front of a paddle and said, almost everything cohen said under oath in the current trial about me is lie. >> i mean i think mr. blanche has done a fabulous job at showing empirical data of his lies. >> this is lying to this jury. forget the federal judge. he lied to the irs the bankruptcy court. congress. he's lying to this particular jury. it reminds me jake of that old saturday night live character tommy flanagan, john lovely said he was the president of the pathologic are liars anonymous association or waze. yeah. >> this guy is absolute, once in a career fodder for cross-examination and mr. blanche hasn't let me ask you, sara, this phone call from october 2016. again, this is a new lie, at least a new accused or alleged lie as it
also has emails and texts to back this up. >> mr. brennan, let me start with you. if you were representing trump would you call castello as a witness absolutely. >> why the testimony he just gave apparently, if i understood it right, this was just in the last 24 hours he went in yesterday. >> that was in front of a paddle and said, almost everything cohen said under oath in the current trial about me is lie. >> i mean i think mr. blanche has done a fabulous job at...
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prosecutors trying to paint costello as a paint ally to prevent cohen from flipping on mr. trump. confronted with e-mails, suggesting he was frustrated. he refused to hire him including one where he wrote he continues to slow play us and the president. is he totally nuts? he's playing with the most powerful man on the planet. costello suggested monday, cohen's entire story, that former president trump plotted to silence stormy daniels to protect his campaign was all a lie. costello telling jurors that michael cohen said numerous times that president trump knew nothing about those payments and that cohen said he did this on his own. only one of two witnesses called by the defense team. the testimony all told running jussive 90 minutes. >> there is no crime. there is no crime. it's a kangaroo court. never been anything like this that i have ever seen. >> reporter: the judge working with both sides today to hash out critical instructions jurors will receive next week to aid their deliberations on the 34 counts mr. trump faces for allegedly falsifying his business records. the outcome
prosecutors trying to paint costello as a paint ally to prevent cohen from flipping on mr. trump. confronted with e-mails, suggesting he was frustrated. he refused to hire him including one where he wrote he continues to slow play us and the president. is he totally nuts? he's playing with the most powerful man on the planet. costello suggested monday, cohen's entire story, that former president trump plotted to silence stormy daniels to protect his campaign was all a lie. costello telling...
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so his attorneys probably said, look, mr. trump, you don't need to testify.t witness, bob costello. he can testify about everything that's said. we don't need to prove anything else. the prosecution has the corn constitutional responsibility to prove its case beyond a reasonable doubt. they are the ones of having the mistake of putting michael cohen on. the defense really only needs to steal michael cohen's credibility. how do you destroy the credibility of a guy who already went to jail for lying? you bring someone vivid like costello. he is such a compelling witness. i think he's perfect to speak to a new york jury. the way he talks. in fact, him rolling his eyes, giving people side eye. i thought that's how you say hello in new york city. [ laughter ] >> neil: it is the way you say hello. rebecca, he raises a good point here. michael cohen, not always reliable. but then these revelations today that he stole money from the trump organization, that might have been it. what did you make of that? >> i mean, that is amazing information for the defense. when a w
so his attorneys probably said, look, mr. trump, you don't need to testify.t witness, bob costello. he can testify about everything that's said. we don't need to prove anything else. the prosecution has the corn constitutional responsibility to prove its case beyond a reasonable doubt. they are the ones of having the mistake of putting michael cohen on. the defense really only needs to steal michael cohen's credibility. how do you destroy the credibility of a guy who already went to jail for...
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what's your best estimation. >> i don't see the point of calling mr. smith if he can't really testify to anything. what he talked about with you, he's not going to be allowed. that would be pointless. costello is a problem for them and a gift to the prosecution. it opens the door to him allegedly trying to prevent michael cohen from flipping, his relationship with julianne. that is a pandora's box. he can't be on direct. he's going to be cross examined by the prosecution. >> why is keith schiller not being called? >> that's on the prosecution. why aren't they calling him? >> do you think the defense -- >> the prosecution would get to cross-examination him. the defense is best not calling any witnesses. they don't have to prove a thing. and the prosecution cannot comment at all in their summation about why didn't they call this person and that person. >> the judge is back. they're going to have the charging conference where they decide how to instruct the jury tomorrow afternoon. that is still subject to change. he mentions he's not crazy about going do
what's your best estimation. >> i don't see the point of calling mr. smith if he can't really testify to anything. what he talked about with you, he's not going to be allowed. that would be pointless. costello is a problem for them and a gift to the prosecution. it opens the door to him allegedly trying to prevent michael cohen from flipping, his relationship with julianne. that is a pandora's box. he can't be on direct. he's going to be cross examined by the prosecution. >> why is...
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cohen has not previously told the truth under oath and the fact that mr.60,000 from his boss. then there is the testimony of lawyer robert costello plans to remind the jury costello said cohen told him trump had nothing to do with the payment of the stormy daniels. blanche will lay out the accounting department employees. they all said they processed the checks and that the former president had nothing to do with them. didn't tell them anything. joshua stein class is expected to give the closing for the prosecution. he w will tell that cohen was telling the truth when he said trump was behind the alleged scheme to falsely classify the payments of legal expenses and also expected to tell them that the documents and the testimony of others will all corroborate cohen that he was telling the truth. here's some of the possible outcomes in the case. conviction on all 34 counts of felony falsification of business records. conviction on some. acquittal on others. acquittal on all the co account. judge could potentially remove the jury from this process entirely. >
cohen has not previously told the truth under oath and the fact that mr.60,000 from his boss. then there is the testimony of lawyer robert costello plans to remind the jury costello said cohen told him trump had nothing to do with the payment of the stormy daniels. blanche will lay out the accounting department employees. they all said they processed the checks and that the former president had nothing to do with them. didn't tell them anything. joshua stein class is expected to give the...
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showing that robert costello is a back channel to trump and rudy giuliani as michael cohen claimed. joining me now are kristy greenberg and duncan levin. thank you for being here tonight. there is a lot of specific legal stuff i want to get to. but was it a good idea for the defense to end with robert costello? >> it was a horrible idea. it help to bolster michael cohen's credibility. anything that makes michael cohen smell like a rose, it's a bad idea for the defense. but these emails are oozing with slime. :said he wanted to be my lawyer, but i didn't trust him. i thought he was working with donald trump, and today we get emails with they are pretty explicit. we have to make it appear that we are not acting under the instruction of rudy giuliani or the present. and the defense knows that they exist. why would you call this guy. putting aside all the antics where he was blatantly disrespectful. it is maddening. but all those things, the style and the substance was a total train neck for the defense. >> in no uncertain terms a bad idea. the stage we are at now is the judge is delibe
showing that robert costello is a back channel to trump and rudy giuliani as michael cohen claimed. joining me now are kristy greenberg and duncan levin. thank you for being here tonight. there is a lot of specific legal stuff i want to get to. but was it a good idea for the defense to end with robert costello? >> it was a horrible idea. it help to bolster michael cohen's credibility. anything that makes michael cohen smell like a rose, it's a bad idea for the defense. but these emails...