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joining us now nbc news correspondent vaughn hillyard, the atlantic staff writer and author of "thank you for your servitude" mark leibovich, and political white house correspondent and msnbc political contributor, eugene daniels. all right, so mark, i'm going to start with you on this. talk to me about haley's voters. are they going to switch over to donald trump so easily? >> no, i don't think so. i mean, i think, look, she obviously has a lot of voters or a lot of people using her as a vehicle to vote for whatever it is they probably don't like about donald trump. you know, the question is does she have any control over them. i don't see any reason to think she does. i talked to a whole bunch of people during the campaign, none of them -- at haley rallies. none of them had much use for trump at all, although not a single one of them said to me i'm just going to wait to sort of see what nikki haley tells me to do. so it's very unclear if she controls any of the votes whatsoever. look, she's proven time and again and there's a whole bunch of video and a whole bunch of contradictory s
joining us now nbc news correspondent vaughn hillyard, the atlantic staff writer and author of "thank you for your servitude" mark leibovich, and political white house correspondent and msnbc political contributor, eugene daniels. all right, so mark, i'm going to start with you on this. talk to me about haley's voters. are they going to switch over to donald trump so easily? >> no, i don't think so. i mean, i think, look, she obviously has a lot of voters or a lot of people...
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vaughn hillyard wearing many hats. brandon, thank you for starting off for us. >>> news has broken in the last few minutes. "the new york times" another blockbuster piece of reporting about supreme court justice alito. "times" reporting exclusively that justice alito displayed another flag used by january 6th insurrectionists at one of his homes. next, the we head and his allies with the ongoing onslaught of prosecutors and law enforcement officials gravely destroying the law of america. jim comey, one of donald trump's earliest targets will be our guest in the "deadline: white house." that will be after a quick break. don't go anywhere. don't go anywhere. owards us! visionworks. see the difference. slowing my cancer from growing and living longer are two things i want from my metastatic breast cancer treatment. and with kisqali, i can have both. kisqali is a pill that when taken with an aromatase inhibitor helps delay cancer from growing and has been proven to help people live significantly longer across three separat
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. >> i want to go back to vaughn hillyard. they're pressing cohen on conversations he had with robert costello, whose name has come up in this trial before, vaughn, but he's not someone who has taken the witness stand. what are jurors to make of this. explain how he fits into the puzzle. >> reporter: right, and robert costello could potentially be called by the defense as a witness here, our own tom winter reported that costello suggested that he would be ready to testify. though he had not heard as of last week for the lawyers for donald trump that he should be ready to take the stand. costello is an interesting character, a trump ally lawyer who's been around the trump world for years now, but back in 2018, he was having conversations, lengthy conversations with michael cohen around the time that michael cohen had his phones taken by federal agents, and the fbi. they raided his hotel room, his home, his office, as part of their investigation into multiple layers of questionable decisions around michael cohen, and this is whe
. >> i want to go back to vaughn hillyard. they're pressing cohen on conversations he had with robert costello, whose name has come up in this trial before, vaughn, but he's not someone who has taken the witness stand. what are jurors to make of this. explain how he fits into the puzzle. >> reporter: right, and robert costello could potentially be called by the defense as a witness here, our own tom winter reported that costello suggested that he would be ready to testify. though he...
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. >>> i want to bring in nbc's vaughn hillyard outside the courthouse. phil rucker, msnbc political analyst and co-author of multiple books on donald trump, chuck rosenberg is a former u.s. attorney, senior fbi official and msnbc contributor, and with me here in studio, jessica roth, former federal prosecutor for the fdny and a professor at the cardozo school of law. even though the jury is done for the day, court is not done for the day, and we just got some big news that we expect to call two more witnesses. it's entirely possible, though, that we rest, that the prosecution will rest by the end of next week. what more can you tell us? >> reporter: right, so the prosecution has two witnesses, michael cohen and somebody else, and they suggested they could be done by the end of next week. now there's no court already this upcoming friday because of memorial day weekend, so over the course of the next three days, monday, tuesday, thursday, you are looking at a lot of michael cohen testimony and the expectation that this is the individual who was there from
. >>> i want to bring in nbc's vaughn hillyard outside the courthouse. phil rucker, msnbc political analyst and co-author of multiple books on donald trump, chuck rosenberg is a former u.s. attorney, senior fbi official and msnbc contributor, and with me here in studio, jessica roth, former federal prosecutor for the fdny and a professor at the cardozo school of law. even though the jury is done for the day, court is not done for the day, and we just got some big news that we expect to...
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. >> i want to bring back our panel, vaughn hillyard, danny cevallos, catherine christian, and jeremy soland. okay, jeremy, i just got new statistics in, are you ready? are you sitting down? >> i am sitting. >> the total cohen time on the stand, 12 hours, 52 minutes. total cohen cross, 4 hours and 40 minutes. high point, low point so far that the jurors may take away from this? >> i think the low point, depending how you're defining this is the cross. i don't think the cross has hammered home what the defense wants to hammer home. the high point for the prosecution is he was contrite, yeah, he lied. again, may not want him to be your neighborhood or date your daughter, but he told you what it is, and you know what, we can back it up with hope hicks within reason, phone call logs and documents within reason. it's going well for the prosecution. proof beyond a reasonable doubt, we'll see. it's going well. >> 13 hours is what we're approaching and we have a little ways to go about what you expected. does it just feel long? >> i had colleagues that would give six hour summations and acqui
. >> i want to bring back our panel, vaughn hillyard, danny cevallos, catherine christian, and jeremy soland. okay, jeremy, i just got new statistics in, are you ready? are you sitting down? >> i am sitting. >> the total cohen time on the stand, 12 hours, 52 minutes. total cohen cross, 4 hours and 40 minutes. high point, low point so far that the jurors may take away from this? >> i think the low point, depending how you're defining this is the cross. i don't think the...
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see how our bottles are made to be remade. >>> vaughn hillyard is now back with us. the table is still here with me. andrew was explaining when the jury gets what they asked for, they will not get it in hard copy. they will have pieces of testimony read back to them. even as i sit here, i i'm able to look at pages of notes, it not a perfect final transcript, but it is paper in front of me. they won't have that. >> right. and it makes it quite difficult to not be able to actually have the witness testimony to go back to. these are very specific lines that the witnesses were testifying to. and actually yesterday, when i was sitting in the courtroom, when todd blanche was delivering his closing arguments there was one line that made me go back to david pecker's testimony on april 23rd, which there has been about 30 mets games since then and a few episodes of jeopardy and a few "new york times" crossword puzzles that i've worked on since then. this is what todd blanche said about the august 2015 trump tower meeting. quote, they didn't even discuss catch and kill at the a
see how our bottles are made to be remade. >>> vaughn hillyard is now back with us. the table is still here with me. andrew was explaining when the jury gets what they asked for, they will not get it in hard copy. they will have pieces of testimony read back to them. even as i sit here, i i'm able to look at pages of notes, it not a perfect final transcript, but it is paper in front of me. they won't have that. >> right. and it makes it quite difficult to not be able to actually...
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nbc's vaughn hillyard is reporting from outside the courthouse in new york city. also with us, paul butler, former federal prosecutor, professor at georgetown school of law and an msnbc legal analyst. jessica roth, former federal prosecutor for the southern district of new york and a professor at cardoza law school, and duncan levin criminal defense attorney, former manhattan prosecutor and a former federal prosecutor. great to have all of you here. it was fascinating to be inside that courtroom. as many people have reported before, when they came in, they didn't seem to make eye contact with donald trump. i had a perfect view. i was on the right side of the courtroom. i could see both rows very, very clearly. i could see where they were writing very, very clearly. i could see any reaction. there was none except the pen to paper, and so let me start with that, if i can. i got to tell you, several points there were when the majority of them were taking notes. and perhaps no more busy than when the judge guided them on the law, the offense is falsifying business rec
nbc's vaughn hillyard is reporting from outside the courthouse in new york city. also with us, paul butler, former federal prosecutor, professor at georgetown school of law and an msnbc legal analyst. jessica roth, former federal prosecutor for the southern district of new york and a professor at cardoza law school, and duncan levin criminal defense attorney, former manhattan prosecutor and a former federal prosecutor. great to have all of you here. it was fascinating to be inside that...
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vaughn hillyard, you too. jen, you're sticking around, again, at the table. still ahead, with sentencing on july 11th and the republican national convention days later, what will the judge consider when he makes his decision. >>> plus, the attorney for stormy daniels is joining us. what stormy is saying now that 34 convictions have been secured in a case that revolved right around her. evolved right arounder h (man) every time i nea new phone, i had to switch carriers... (roommate) i told him...at verizon, everyone can get that iphone 15 on them. (man) now that i got a huge storage and battery upgrade... i'm officially done switching. (vo) new and existing customers get iphone 15 on us when they trade in any iphone. verizon uhhh. katie! i knew i'd find you here. i know, it's wild. i'm you from the future! anyway our doctor figured it out. all that constipation with belly pain that keeps coming back, it's ibs—c. she said linzess could help you get ahead of it. whatta you say? yess! get ahead of your ibs—c with linzess. linzess is not a laxative. it's a onc
vaughn hillyard, you too. jen, you're sticking around, again, at the table. still ahead, with sentencing on july 11th and the republican national convention days later, what will the judge consider when he makes his decision. >>> plus, the attorney for stormy daniels is joining us. what stormy is saying now that 34 convictions have been secured in a case that revolved right around her. evolved right arounder h (man) every time i nea new phone, i had to switch carriers... (roommate) i...
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nbc news correspondent vaughn hillyard outside the courthouse in lower manhattan, also here with us on set, nbc news legal analyst kristen gibbons feden. let's start with you and take a step back here, i think some of these rules may seem archaic to people. why can't the jurors have the instructions and the transcripts of the testimony with them? >> it's interesting you say archaic. not all states follow that, some states including pennsylvania where i also practice the jury can have the written instructions. but in new york, the purpose behind keeping the jury instructions as well as the transcript in the purview of the court is to allow and ensure collective participation in the distributive process of the jury jurors. it allows the court to be the leader and arbiter of what evidence goes in and how. >> as if people aren't reading one on one, they're having to listen collectively as a group. >> that's right. >> so vaughn, let me go to you. what parts of cohen and pecker's testimony did the jury and to hear again, and why might that be significant? >> reporter: it could be significant
nbc news correspondent vaughn hillyard outside the courthouse in lower manhattan, also here with us on set, nbc news legal analyst kristen gibbons feden. let's start with you and take a step back here, i think some of these rules may seem archaic to people. why can't the jurors have the instructions and the transcripts of the testimony with them? >> it's interesting you say archaic. not all states follow that, some states including pennsylvania where i also practice the jury can have the...
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. >> also with us, vaughn hillyard reporting from outside the courthouse. peter baker, chief white house correspondent for the "new york times" and msnbc political analyst. duncan levin, criminal defense attorney and senior staff at the manhattan d.a.'s office and shan wu. just remind us where her testimony left off. >> reporter: right. we were getting into the nitty-gritty of the actual nondisclosure agreement between stormy daniels and michael cohen and she testified just before the jury went out on lunch break that she understood that the nda was being signed by donald trump. that he was party to this agreement here, but that michael cohen was representing him with this agreement here. so what we could expect from the prosecution as they continue their questioning of daniels is why ultimately there in those closing weeks of october 2016 she decided to go, number one, with the $130,000 payment. an agreement to sign this nda with trump and cohen versus say going to an outside publication and having her story going public there in the closing days of the 20
. >> also with us, vaughn hillyard reporting from outside the courthouse. peter baker, chief white house correspondent for the "new york times" and msnbc political analyst. duncan levin, criminal defense attorney and senior staff at the manhattan d.a.'s office and shan wu. just remind us where her testimony left off. >> reporter: right. we were getting into the nitty-gritty of the actual nondisclosure agreement between stormy daniels and michael cohen and she testified...
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vaughn hillyard, robert gibbs, stephanie gresham, adam pollock, charles coleman, i cannot imagine a better group of folks i have had this journey with. that's going to do it for us this hour. joining us for "chris jansing reports" every weekday on msnbc. our coverage continues with "katy tur reports" right now. >>> good to be with you, i'm alex witt in for katy tur. let's go to the courthouse, joining us from outside the courtroom, nbc news national correspondent yasmin vossoughian, 3:00 p.m. eastern, catch us up on today's testimony and what is happening right now. >> reporter: hope hicks integral to the prosecution here, alex, connecting the dots, and i want to talk to you first about a moment that just took place regarding the article in january 2018 that came out, revealing the payoff to stormy daniels from michael cohen, and how hope hicks framed that payoff, and let me read the verbiage inside the courtroom. can you describe the conversation and hope hicks saying this, it was the day after michael told "the new york times" he made a payment without trump's knowledge and trump said he
vaughn hillyard, robert gibbs, stephanie gresham, adam pollock, charles coleman, i cannot imagine a better group of folks i have had this journey with. that's going to do it for us this hour. joining us for "chris jansing reports" every weekday on msnbc. our coverage continues with "katy tur reports" right now. >>> good to be with you, i'm alex witt in for katy tur. let's go to the courthouse, joining us from outside the courtroom, nbc news national correspondent...
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he's been in the courtroom earlier this week and vaughn hillyard who is outside the courtroom. kimberly is a lawyer and political analyst and renato mar attie is a former federal prosecutor. so, jonathan, donald trump did everything he could to avoid this moment. again, objected to her testifying today. that was overruled by judge merchan. she's now sitting in the witness stand, you were in the courtroom. it's been described to us as 15 feet away from the defendant. you've been covering him for years. what must this be like for donald trump, past president, future -- well, current candidate, potentially future president? >> it's an amazingly tight space. you've got donald trump sitting so close to the witness box. this person is telling these prurient details about their alleged sexual relationship from many years ago. you have the jury, you know, almost right on top of all the action. it's almost as if you were watching a cartoon or something and the jury's head is going back and forth during the moments. i was in the courthouse in the courtroom earlier in this trial and just
he's been in the courtroom earlier this week and vaughn hillyard who is outside the courtroom. kimberly is a lawyer and political analyst and renato mar attie is a former federal prosecutor. so, jonathan, donald trump did everything he could to avoid this moment. again, objected to her testifying today. that was overruled by judge merchan. she's now sitting in the witness stand, you were in the courtroom. it's been described to us as 15 feet away from the defendant. you've been covering him for...
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i want to go to vaughn hillyard. it is, let's just be clear, feca, the federal election campaign act, which is what is at the heart of part of this at least. tell us about it, vaughn. >> right. there was some questions when we're talking about what the underlying act is, what the underlying violation was. it was not clearly stated even during opening statements. but the prosecution laid down clues throughout these last five weeks about what they were going to present here this afternoon and then in closing arguments by repeatedly coming back to the idea that donald trump committed the acts that he did to influence the 2016 election. and that is important because there is actually a sidebar, it was the second day of these proceedings here, there was a sidebar conversation between judge merchan and the prosecution, and it was very explicitly stated by the prosecution, quote, the entire case is predicated on the idea that there was a conspiracy to influence the election in 2016. why does this matter here? this is where
i want to go to vaughn hillyard. it is, let's just be clear, feca, the federal election campaign act, which is what is at the heart of part of this at least. tell us about it, vaughn. >> right. there was some questions when we're talking about what the underlying act is, what the underlying violation was. it was not clearly stated even during opening statements. but the prosecution laid down clues throughout these last five weeks about what they were going to present here this afternoon...
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. >> out to vaughn hillyard with an update from the courtroom. vaughn? >> reporter: this is where judge merchan is getting into the weeds of the tiers in which the jury has to determine donald trump's potential guilt here. you're talking about number one, tier one, the cause -- to cause the falsification of the business records with the intent to commit another crime. that other crime is really tier two. that particular crime is new york election law 17.152, which talks about conspireing to promote or prevent the election of any person to a public office by unlawful means. judge merchan telling this jury that conspireing to promote the election of a person is different than being cognizant of or knowing about a conspiracy, that the individual must have partaken in that conspiracy. that's level two there, the violation of the new york state election law to influence the 2016 election by unlawful means, unlawful means is tier three. judge merchan is explaining that they have three different options that the prosecution presented that justifies unlawful mea
. >> out to vaughn hillyard with an update from the courtroom. vaughn? >> reporter: this is where judge merchan is getting into the weeds of the tiers in which the jury has to determine donald trump's potential guilt here. you're talking about number one, tier one, the cause -- to cause the falsification of the business records with the intent to commit another crime. that other crime is really tier two. that particular crime is new york election law 17.152, which talks about...
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>> vaughn hillyard, fair questions. we'll keep up with you tonight. the aforementioned michael cohen who was the star witness in the case will be speaking out for the first type since this verdict dropped tonight on msnbc at 8:00 p.m. eastern as our special coverage continues. we're doing it in teams. andrew weissmann has been standing by to react to some of the news d.a. bragg made. i want to read it, the question was posed by a reporter in the room. quote, do you plan to request a prison sentence? i think when you put aside everything else of what this may mean, and all of the important aspects of justice and the process we have discussed, that is the biggest question out in the country tonight. it was posed. quote, do you plan to request a prison sentence? the d.a. replied, quote, donald trump mfs multiple violations of the gag order, the judge has scheduled a sentencing hearing. we also set a motion schedule, we'll speak in our filings as we have done in our proceeding, end quote. i'm being very precise. at times in the transcripts we would say we
>> vaughn hillyard, fair questions. we'll keep up with you tonight. the aforementioned michael cohen who was the star witness in the case will be speaking out for the first type since this verdict dropped tonight on msnbc at 8:00 p.m. eastern as our special coverage continues. we're doing it in teams. andrew weissmann has been standing by to react to some of the news d.a. bragg made. i want to read it, the question was posed by a reporter in the room. quote, do you plan to request a...
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vaughn hillyard, his felt like, i'm a nonlawyer saying this, a workaround. i don't want to testify in a court where i have to tell the truth. i want to kick the you know what out of stormy daniels in front of my political supporters. am i missing something? >> right. donald trump has the opportunity to testify and the suggestion from judge merchan here as well as the prosecution arguing against the change in the gag order was that the defendant's team can speak and make the case all they want inside of the courtroom that is the purpose of the trial, and that is the purpose of being able to cross examine someone like stormy daniels who donald trump would like to attack and undercut right now. the fact that judge noted that the defendant, donald trump, has allies outside of the courtroom. florida senator rick scott who made a lot of attacks on the system here including one of the prosecutors on the d.a.'s team as well as the family member the daughter a of judge merchan who did that on behalf of donald trump. essentially the contention donald trump can handle
vaughn hillyard, his felt like, i'm a nonlawyer saying this, a workaround. i don't want to testify in a court where i have to tell the truth. i want to kick the you know what out of stormy daniels in front of my political supporters. am i missing something? >> right. donald trump has the opportunity to testify and the suggestion from judge merchan here as well as the prosecution arguing against the change in the gag order was that the defendant's team can speak and make the case all they...
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vaughn hillyard, let's start with what's right now. do you have any insights with what's being discussed with the judge? >> reporter: there's currently with the jury having already been dismissed. there's now a conversation, like one this morning that started for 20 minutes in private, where there was discussions over the extent to which previous trials, previous information about michael cohen could be brought before the jury. there's currently deliberation over the extent to which there are questions, as i'm trying to pull up in raem realtime, i got lost here for a moment. this is a little bit where we're getting into the weeds here. our own producer inside is noting that this is where we're at late points in this trial. and literally as we thought that maybe today would be the day that they would finish the cross-examination of michael cohen, you now have a moment here where there's last-minute negotiating over what can be brought before this jury ahead of what is now going to be a three-day weekend for them. >> just take us through
vaughn hillyard, let's start with what's right now. do you have any insights with what's being discussed with the judge? >> reporter: there's currently with the jury having already been dismissed. there's now a conversation, like one this morning that started for 20 minutes in private, where there was discussions over the extent to which previous trials, previous information about michael cohen could be brought before the jury. there's currently deliberation over the extent to which there...
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. >> i want to bring in vaughn hillyard outside the courthouse. vaughn, what is going on right now? >> reporter: they're currently getting into the minutia of the approval from alan weisselberg to jeffrey mcconney to have the michael cohen invoices approved and those reimbursement checks initially. the first two signed by weisselberg as well as don jr. then the final one coming from donald trump's personal account and signed by donald trump himself. you have jeffrey mcconney, someone who worked for 35 years for the trump organization, a loyalist to donald trump and the family, testifying in the courtroom that he understood that the $35,000 checks that were being labeled in the ledger as monthly legal retainer expenses were actually reimbursements made to michael cohen for previous acts, as well as a doubling of that to cover tax purposes, as well as to offset bonus that michael cohen had argued he deserved. this is where you're getting at the heart of a key ally of donald trump within the trump organization testifying today that he in early 2017 mowingly was -- at the direction of a
. >> i want to bring in vaughn hillyard outside the courthouse. vaughn, what is going on right now? >> reporter: they're currently getting into the minutia of the approval from alan weisselberg to jeffrey mcconney to have the michael cohen invoices approved and those reimbursement checks initially. the first two signed by weisselberg as well as don jr. then the final one coming from donald trump's personal account and signed by donald trump himself. you have jeffrey mcconney,...
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. >>> let's bring in vaughn hillyard. vaughn, what are your sources telling you about what we can expect today when michael cohen takes the stand? >> reporter: little information on hannibal lecter and his relevance to this case. michael cohen will be taking the stand. for donald trump this has been a long time coming. his one-time righthand michael cohen has been led to the point after testifying under oath and providing cooperative testimony to not only federal prosecutors but state prosecutors, much of that testimony allowing the district attorney to even bring this case to the grand jury last year that led to this indictment. michael cohen, this is the moment in which sitting mere feet away from donald trump is going to testify. these two men began working together back in 2007, of course michael cohen was part of stormy daniels effort back in 2016, of course there's the august 2015 trump tower meeting and 2016 the excuse of $130,000 from the home equity line of credit from michael cohen personally and then in 2017 th
. >>> let's bring in vaughn hillyard. vaughn, what are your sources telling you about what we can expect today when michael cohen takes the stand? >> reporter: little information on hannibal lecter and his relevance to this case. michael cohen will be taking the stand. for donald trump this has been a long time coming. his one-time righthand michael cohen has been led to the point after testifying under oath and providing cooperative testimony to not only federal prosecutors but...
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nbc news correspondent vaughn hillyard is there. and vaughn, i take it there have been some changes in the schedule that might indicate some new dimensions that could take place the next day or two. tell us what you know. >> reporter: right, mika. this is quite the development for monday morning here. there was a question of whether ultimately we could get a verdict as early as this thursday, before memorial day weekend. we expect cross-examination to continue of michael cohen. the redirect we expect that to take another hour. that will would take us to around the lunch break here today. then the defense's opportunity to call their own witnesses forward. they have one individual who they have suggested they may bring forward. they have not ruled out bringing donald trump to the stand, though. but this is where the big development just in the last moments inside the courtroom all. after all the witnesses have been called, summations or closing arguments. that could have started as early as tomorrow. but judge merchan inside of this c
nbc news correspondent vaughn hillyard is there. and vaughn, i take it there have been some changes in the schedule that might indicate some new dimensions that could take place the next day or two. tell us what you know. >> reporter: right, mika. this is quite the development for monday morning here. there was a question of whether ultimately we could get a verdict as early as this thursday, before memorial day weekend. we expect cross-examination to continue of michael cohen. the...
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we also have vaughn hillyard outside the courthouse. andrew, i want to go back to you. as i've been following it, the testimony the last 15 minutes does a couple things. it claims that trump himself issued the order he did it to help his campaign. i note the final piece of evidence is michael cohen saying, i was following directions. so, if you are the prosecution and you want to end on a dramatic moment, how do you structure what is left of michael cohen's testimony to leave the jury with the idea that you have done, as a prosecutor, what you needed to do. >> well, we've talked about the remaining key pieces, but i think the one huge piece that the jury has not heard yet is michael cohen saying what he is guilty of, and he's going to have to walk through what he's pleaded to. i assume one of the last things he will say and be asked about is that he has pleaded guilty to this scheme. and that he has gone to jail for this scheme. the underling has been held to account, but the person directing it has not. if that's where you are as a juror, and you believe the whole moun
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let's bring in vaughn hillyard, who is live outside the courthouse in lower manhattan. also with us, senior writer for politico, who specialized in financial fraud and white collar crime. also legal analyst charles coleman. we'll start with you, vaughn. >> reporter: madelyn wester hout continues her testimony. she is facing cross examination from donald trump's attorney susan necheles. she was the just outside the oval office and was able to have eye contact with donald trump at the resolute desk. she testified she had set up meetings with donald trump and michael cohen and a separate meeting between donald trump and david pecker in the white house in 2017, his first month in the white house. but under cross examination, she is facing questions about the extent of her understanding of the context and whether she knew that donald trump had reimbursed intentionally michael cohen for the checks made to stormy daniels before the 2016 election. of course, the marquee witness for the prosecution will be michael cohen. he could be the culmination of the case they lay out. just
let's bring in vaughn hillyard, who is live outside the courthouse in lower manhattan. also with us, senior writer for politico, who specialized in financial fraud and white collar crime. also legal analyst charles coleman. we'll start with you, vaughn. >> reporter: madelyn wester hout continues her testimony. she is facing cross examination from donald trump's attorney susan necheles. she was the just outside the oval office and was able to have eye contact with donald trump at the...
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let's go the vaughn hillyard and also with me is danny cevallos. vaughn, start with the testimony we heard today. >> reporter: text messages from election night 2016 that were brought before keith davidson as well as this jury to look at and text messages at 3:00 a.m. when it became apparent that donald trump was going to be next president of the united states. a certain exchange there from keith davidson representing storm ya daniels and karen mcdougal to dylan howard the editor in chief of the national enquirer and keith davidson texted howard, quote, what have we done? to which howard responded, oh, my god. showing this jury that these two individuals knew by striking these arrangements that they were intending and ultimately had an impact on the 2016 case. ultimate reimbursement of the funds to michael cohen of that payment to stormy daniels. they were questioning what the actual motives of keith davidson were and insinuation and implication that potentially stormy daniels' story was made up. not only financial gains for stormy daniels but for
let's go the vaughn hillyard and also with me is danny cevallos. vaughn, start with the testimony we heard today. >> reporter: text messages from election night 2016 that were brought before keith davidson as well as this jury to look at and text messages at 3:00 a.m. when it became apparent that donald trump was going to be next president of the united states. a certain exchange there from keith davidson representing storm ya daniels and karen mcdougal to dylan howard the editor in chief...
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. >> leading us off this hour vaughn hillyard outside the courthouse in lower manhattan. vaughn, walk us through what happened in court today and what happens next? >> reporter: right, guys the defense rested their case and after those 16 days of testimony, it's now going to be up to the jurors to make their determination of whether donald trump is guilty of the 34 felony counts or not. as we speak, the two parties, the defense, attorneys for trump's as well as the prosecutors are working through jury instructions with judge merchan. the jury is not in the room for this. they've been dismissed. right now, the jury instructions are being formulated. this is what the jurors are going to be tasked with, the two sides on different opinion on exact wording and how the law should be interpreted by the jurors when they go behind closed doors. it's up to the judge ultimately to deliver the jury instructions. >> what do you make of the case that the defense made over the last two day and they called two witnesses, one was a paralegal who substantive e-mail and call logs. costello,
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here is my colleague vaughn hillyard with more. >> reporter: tonight, former president trump facing a new threat of jail time at his hush money trial after his 10th violation of the judge's gag order. >> he has taken away my constitutional right to speak. >> reporter: the judge addressing the possibility of putting him behind bars over future violations. the magnitude of such a decision is not lost on me. you are the former president of the united states and possibly the next president as well. adding, smudges i do not want to impose a jail sanction, i will, if necessary and appropriate. >> frankly, our constitution is more important than jail. it's not even close. i'll do that sacrifice any day. >> reporter: the judge finding him an additional $1000 for -- the jury in deep blue manhattan saying it's 95% democrat. the judge said the former president wrongfully called into question the integrity of the jury. mr. trump has pleaded not guilty to low-level felony charges for allegedly disguising reimbursements to michael cohen for hush money payments to stormy daniels has legal expenses i
here is my colleague vaughn hillyard with more. >> reporter: tonight, former president trump facing a new threat of jail time at his hush money trial after his 10th violation of the judge's gag order. >> he has taken away my constitutional right to speak. >> reporter: the judge addressing the possibility of putting him behind bars over future violations. the magnitude of such a decision is not lost on me. you are the former president of the united states and possibly the next...
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and that includes my colleague vaughn hillyard. vaughn, you know, what moment have we now lifted up that really struck you, that you're going to sort of be mulling tonight? >> the jury. they didn't foe who michael cohen was coming in today. they have the story of a man who was there at the very beginning of donald trump's political journey back in 2011. michael cohen testified that he brought the supposed poll to donald trump's desk that showed 60% of americans wanted him to be president of the united states. and he even set up the website should trump run.com. he didn't run in 2012. but in early 2015 before he had his announcement to run for president. and then even had a conversation with donald trump before that june 2016 announcement -- 2015 announcement. they had a conversation about what would happen post-announcement and he said that donald trump told him that women would come forward with stories and that they should be alerted. so the jury here today, they're being introduced to a man that was more like family than just a
and that includes my colleague vaughn hillyard. vaughn, you know, what moment have we now lifted up that really struck you, that you're going to sort of be mulling tonight? >> the jury. they didn't foe who michael cohen was coming in today. they have the story of a man who was there at the very beginning of donald trump's political journey back in 2011. michael cohen testified that he brought the supposed poll to donald trump's desk that showed 60% of americans wanted him to be president...
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. >>> let's go to vaughn hillyard, what are your top takeaways from stormy daniels, all taking into consideration if it was silk or satin pajamas? >> reporter: six months out from the 2024 presidential election, you have the presumptive republican nominee inside a courtroom listening to the testimony of an adult film star, which she's saying the presumptive nominee engaged in an affair four months after his son was born. the details being described in front of the jury are quite explicit. having stormy daniels saying she took a rolled up magazine and spanked donald trump in the butt, and it's graphic and specific. donald trump has denied generally, and she explains about the conversation, and it goes back to the tempra vieded last week to this very jury. ronna graph, who is the 34-year executive assistant to donald trump at the trump organization out of the office, outside of donald trump's office there, and she already testified to the jury that not only did she have a contact for stormy daniels, stormy's phone number, but also there was office chatter about stormy daniels appearing on the "cele
. >>> let's go to vaughn hillyard, what are your top takeaways from stormy daniels, all taking into consideration if it was silk or satin pajamas? >> reporter: six months out from the 2024 presidential election, you have the presumptive republican nominee inside a courtroom listening to the testimony of an adult film star, which she's saying the presumptive nominee engaged in an affair four months after his son was born. the details being described in front of the jury are quite...
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vaughn hillyard outside the courthouse. >> reporter: at 2:15 eastern time, the two parties will re-enter the courtroom, donald trump included with judge merchan. the jurors are gone until next week, and this is going to be the charging conference. this is where the two sides will present to judge merchan how they believe the jury instructions should be delivered to the jurors next week. we can expect tension here because of the extent to which the law that is being alleged that donald trump violated, the 34 felony accounts, kind of a complicating factor here. of course, we are talking about the falsification of the business records, elevated from a misdemeanor to a felony because the district attorney alleged donald trump violated an underlying crime, an underlying offense. there were four different potential offenses that the district attorney's office presented as possible violations that could have been -- amounted to the underlying crimes, including the federal election campaign act as well as a new york state statute, which gets to the heart if donald trump at least intended to viol
vaughn hillyard outside the courthouse. >> reporter: at 2:15 eastern time, the two parties will re-enter the courtroom, donald trump included with judge merchan. the jurors are gone until next week, and this is going to be the charging conference. this is where the two sides will present to judge merchan how they believe the jury instructions should be delivered to the jurors next week. we can expect tension here because of the extent to which the law that is being alleged that donald...
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and outside of the courthouse, vaughn hillyard. let's start with what is happening right now and work our way back to this merchan rebuke. >> reporter: right, nicolle, the jury just re-entered the courtroom. in a typical day. at 4:30, is when court is ended and everyone is sent home but today the judge made it clear they would try to get through both sides closing arguments by the end of today so the juries could hear it in one major chunk. but now you're looking at a reality that there was a break that was announced and the jury left the room and the prosecution about an hour and a 45 minutes into their closing arguments, were just asked by judge how much more time do they have. they said they were about one-third of the way done. so if you do the math, that could take us to about 8:00 p.m. eastern if the time moves based on their clock. now the defense, they went for about three hours this morning as part of their closing arguments and when you compare the two sides you could look at the defense, it was a rather a simplistic effo
and outside of the courthouse, vaughn hillyard. let's start with what is happening right now and work our way back to this merchan rebuke. >> reporter: right, nicolle, the jury just re-entered the courtroom. in a typical day. at 4:30, is when court is ended and everyone is sent home but today the judge made it clear they would try to get through both sides closing arguments by the end of today so the juries could hear it in one major chunk. but now you're looking at a reality that there...
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i don't know if we have vaughn hillyard with us. i hope we do. i'd love to get vaughn in on this because he was following the campaign at the time. we'll get him back later. i don't know if it's reasonable to say he would call only about the 14-year-old moments after he walked off stage. i think finding evidence of this might be difficult. jeremy, you say this is potentially something that the prosecution can argue the context and the reasonableness around this photo if they find it to be necessary in their closing arguments. >> not making the argument during direct or cross. that's not when you're making the argument. you may become argumentative. the argument itself, it's not plausible that call would have been made to discuss a 14-year-old is an argument to be made at summation. it's just another piece of evidence to say believe michael cohen because of this, this and this. >> this image we have on our screen is not the right one. keith schiller is this guy right now in the red tie. that's his bodyguard. here they are walking off the stage, i
i don't know if we have vaughn hillyard with us. i hope we do. i'd love to get vaughn in on this because he was following the campaign at the time. we'll get him back later. i don't know if it's reasonable to say he would call only about the 14-year-old moments after he walked off stage. i think finding evidence of this might be difficult. jeremy, you say this is potentially something that the prosecution can argue the context and the reasonableness around this photo if they find it to be...
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vaughn hillyard outside the courthouse. former top official at the department of justice and msnbc legal analyst, andrew weissmann, melissa murray joins us at the table, she's an msnbc contributor and nyu law professor. at the table, as she is every day, from the courthouse, susan craig. sue, i start with you. let's start with the testimony. we will work our way back to the beginning of the day and the gag order. as someone who teaches us all the time about how trump ran afoul of the law in his financial dealings, tell us why the two witnesses today matter. >> they are really important. they establish part of the crime here, which is the falsification of the entries -- there's 34 entries that are alleged to have been falsified. today, the jury saw them on the screen, one by one. it was michael -- there were various invoices and entries made into the books that were -- said for legal fees, but the prosecution is arguing they were for the hush money payments. it was one by one by one so that they could establish it and enter
vaughn hillyard outside the courthouse. former top official at the department of justice and msnbc legal analyst, andrew weissmann, melissa murray joins us at the table, she's an msnbc contributor and nyu law professor. at the table, as she is every day, from the courthouse, susan craig. sue, i start with you. let's start with the testimony. we will work our way back to the beginning of the day and the gag order. as someone who teaches us all the time about how trump ran afoul of the law in his...
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nbc news correspondent vaughn hillyard is here. "new york times" investigative reporter susan craig joins us and former federal prosecutor and sdny deputy chief, msnbc legal analyst, christy greenberg is here. vaughn hillyard, word on the street is blanche is bombing. how is that going to go over with trump? >> a man supposed to be his voice. sue and i were on the subway and following along the last hour and wondering if there was going to be -- >> is that fair? >> a dialog from todd blanche going on the offense against michael cohen. but that hasn't taken place yet. over the course of the first several minutes there was a drawn out back and forth over whether he leaked a story to the press or not. all of us sitting in the courthouse there were looking at one another like this is not what we anticipated. we're thinking there was going to be questions about his credibility. even when todd blanche brought up a photo of michael cohen wearing a shirt that had donald trump behind bars, even then michael cohen was very dispassionate, yea
nbc news correspondent vaughn hillyard is here. "new york times" investigative reporter susan craig joins us and former federal prosecutor and sdny deputy chief, msnbc legal analyst, christy greenberg is here. vaughn hillyard, word on the street is blanche is bombing. how is that going to go over with trump? >> a man supposed to be his voice. sue and i were on the subway and following along the last hour and wondering if there was going to be -- >> is that fair? >> a...
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vaughn hillyard, thank you for burning the midnight oil before you had to court tomorrow morning. that is it for our show this evening. now it is time for "the last word with lawrence o'donnell." good evening. >> good evening, alex. joe biden is facing a challenge in the upcoming debates that no presidential debate or in history has ever faced. nothing even close to it and it is one that could create a gigantic challenge for joe biden. he may not be able to say anything about donald trump's indictments during these debates and that is a prospect no one has considered yet. andrew weissmann will consider it for us in the discussion coming up. >> let's talk about wednesday, the codeword, maybe. ask if that is legal. i'm going to be watching. >> we will check. thanks, alex. >> have a good show. >> thank you. >>> donald trump's red necktie friends who alex was talking about came to the manhattan criminal courthouse this week to praise one of the criminal defendants in the building and attacked district attorney evan bragg, who donald trump falsely accuses of spending all of his time an
vaughn hillyard, thank you for burning the midnight oil before you had to court tomorrow morning. that is it for our show this evening. now it is time for "the last word with lawrence o'donnell." good evening. >> good evening, alex. joe biden is facing a challenge in the upcoming debates that no presidential debate or in history has ever faced. nothing even close to it and it is one that could create a gigantic challenge for joe biden. he may not be able to say anything about...
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. >> back with us, nbc news correspondent, vaughn hillyard and joining us for the hour, former fbi general counsel and nyu law professor, andrew weissman, adam pollack and amy parnes. okay, vaughn, catch us up on what's going inside right this very second. >> reporter: they've been going back and forth over that period of time between august of, october of 2016 when daniels entered into that $130,000 agreement to keep her story silent with cohen. she believed he was a party up until march of 2018 when she appeared on 60 minutes and publicly detailed the encounter in 2006. it was not until "the wall street journal" story by "the wall street journal" in january of 2018 in which the actual arrangements, the $130,000 payment, the agreement to silence her story two weeks before the election, really truly came out in the public eye. at that point in time, michael cohen, donald trump's attorney, was making public statements but because of this agreement, the nondisclosure agreement, daniels is testifying to this jury she was bound from making public statements about it or making denials that were
. >> back with us, nbc news correspondent, vaughn hillyard and joining us for the hour, former fbi general counsel and nyu law professor, andrew weissman, adam pollack and amy parnes. okay, vaughn, catch us up on what's going inside right this very second. >> reporter: they've been going back and forth over that period of time between august of, october of 2016 when daniels entered into that $130,000 agreement to keep her story silent with cohen. she believed he was a party up until...
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i'm with vaughn hillyard. so, we were talking in the break. we sometimes have our best conversations in the break. not really. we save it all for the show. about how there was -- there is also an element of just how badly they did this. these weren't good criminals. michael cohen tells david pecker, go to the u.p.s. store and download signals. they were bad at the criminal element of the hush money scheme. >> the defense has to argue the following. when donald trump is signing those checks month after month, and there's the invoice there that he did not look at the invoice and he just signed the checks without caring at all -- >> for the first time. >> yeah. >> exactly. just was going ahead and paying for what legal fees that were not legal fees and paying twice as much than he should have been paying, even though, by the way, he has said he paid for reimbursements so he wouldn't be -- it doesn't make any sense. and what possible motive would allen have or michael have to lie to him? in other words, they would be fired for that. what would be
i'm with vaughn hillyard. so, we were talking in the break. we sometimes have our best conversations in the break. not really. we save it all for the show. about how there was -- there is also an element of just how badly they did this. these weren't good criminals. michael cohen tells david pecker, go to the u.p.s. store and download signals. they were bad at the criminal element of the hush money scheme. >> the defense has to argue the following. when donald trump is signing those...
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andrew, sue, donny and vaughn hillyard, thank you so much for getting us through this hour. there's a whole other hour that hasn't even started yet. we have much, much more on this dramatic day of breaking news in the first ever criminal trial of an american ex-president. the one and only george stephanopoulos will join our coverage as well. a quick break for us. we'll be right back. well a quick break for us we'll be right back. that's great. i know, i've bee telling everyone. baby: liberty. oh! baby: liberty. how many people did you tell? only pay for what you need. jingle: ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ baby: ♪ liberty. ♪ if you spit blood when you brush, it could be the start of a domino effect. new parodontax active gum repair breath freshener. clinically proven to help reverse the four signs of early gum disease. a new toothpaste from parodontax, the gum experts. known as a loving parent. known for lessons that matter. known for being a free spirit. no one wants to be known for cancer, but a treatment can be. keytruda is known to treat cancer, fda-approved for
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nbc's vaughn hillyard has our "sunday focus." >> reporter: the televised debate has been an american institution for half a century. john f. kennedy outshining a fading richard nixon. >> i think we can do better. >> reporter: catapulting the senator into the white house. >> there you go again. >> reporter: in 1980, ronald reagan, a former hollywood actor, re-energizing his campaign in a debate with jimmy carter just ten days before the election. >> debates elect presidents more often than we think. reagan's performance was so strong that the race moved from a near tie to almost a landslide for ronald reagan. >> reporter: and this week confirmation of a rematch between joe biden and republican nominee donald trump four years after the pair squared off in two bruising debates in the summer of 2020. >> the radical left -- >> will you shut up, man? >> reporter: biden commit to go a debate during an interview with howard stern. >> i don't know if you're going to debate your opponent. >> i am somewhere. i don't know when. i'm happy to debate him. >> reporter: before officially throwing dow
nbc's vaughn hillyard has our "sunday focus." >> reporter: the televised debate has been an american institution for half a century. john f. kennedy outshining a fading richard nixon. >> i think we can do better. >> reporter: catapulting the senator into the white house. >> there you go again. >> reporter: in 1980, ronald reagan, a former hollywood actor, re-energizing his campaign in a debate with jimmy carter just ten days before the election. >>...
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. >> and vaughn hillyard has joined me in studio. that's something both campaigns can control, their strategy, message. what they can't control is what 12 jurors are going to decide in a courtroom in manhattan. i wonder having covered it, covered both of these guys, what are you hearing about the potential impact, if it's guilty, not guilty, or a hung jury? >> if it is guilty we have seen polling indicating there's a segment of republican voters and a majority of independent voters who say a guilty verdict in the hush money scheme trial would lead them to most likely not vote for donald trump. >> but you know a lot of people, including people on the right who don't believe that. >> and a lot of time, five and a half months until the general election here. there are a lot of other variables between now and then. in our roles as reporters we try not to forecast too much. but i think what you look at is donald trump is a political figure unlike anything we've dealt with in our histories. he foreshadowed january 6th being a wild day, for
. >> and vaughn hillyard has joined me in studio. that's something both campaigns can control, their strategy, message. what they can't control is what 12 jurors are going to decide in a courtroom in manhattan. i wonder having covered it, covered both of these guys, what are you hearing about the potential impact, if it's guilty, not guilty, or a hung jury? >> if it is guilty we have seen polling indicating there's a segment of republican voters and a majority of independent voters...
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we kick it off, kicking off our coverage with vaughn hillyard outside the courthouse. here with us in studio, criminal defense attorney, danny and catherine christian. vaughn, outside the courtroom, talk about michael cohen, the star witness. a difficult witness, a challenging witness for the prosecution. the defense is waiting to get at him in cross-examination. he's been on the stand now for more than two hours. vaughn? >> reporter: right, andrea. for the last hour, the prosecution has focused their questioning on the extent to which michael cohen was so consistent in what he says was apprising donald trump directly of the payments. not only to the door man, but mcdougal as well as stormy daniels. when it pertains to mcdougal in 2016, cohen is testifying he had ten or 12 conversations with weisselberg saying no money passed through the trump organization or donald trump without the knowledge or sign off of allen weisselberg. he said he was repeatedly engaged with weisselberg about the need to pay back that $150,000 to american media incorporated for the karen mcdouga
we kick it off, kicking off our coverage with vaughn hillyard outside the courthouse. here with us in studio, criminal defense attorney, danny and catherine christian. vaughn, outside the courtroom, talk about michael cohen, the star witness. a difficult witness, a challenging witness for the prosecution. the defense is waiting to get at him in cross-examination. he's been on the stand now for more than two hours. vaughn? >> reporter: right, andrea. for the last hour, the prosecution has...
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. >> at this hour, nbc news correspondent vaughn hillyard is outside the courthouse in lower manhattan and in-studio, nbc news legal analyst angela senadella. vaughn what has the jury heard today? >> reporter: kate and zinhle, stormy daniels wrapped up testimony answering her cross-examination, a series of questions for hours where defense attorneys for donald trump tried to call into question some small discrepancies in stories shared from the past. including whether she had dinner or not night of their one-night stand. importantly, a lot of her story was not called into question at all by defense attorneys with donald trump. stormy daniels was defiant, stuck to her story they had a one-night stand, one sexual encounter but engaged conversationally for months after that. a day and a half of testimony, stormy daniels story hitting to the attempt of what was donald trump's attempt to cover up her story from getting to the public at large before the 2016 election ultimately leading donald trump to get michael cohen to pay her $130,000. one other key witness on the stand. executive assist
. >> at this hour, nbc news correspondent vaughn hillyard is outside the courthouse in lower manhattan and in-studio, nbc news legal analyst angela senadella. vaughn what has the jury heard today? >> reporter: kate and zinhle, stormy daniels wrapped up testimony answering her cross-examination, a series of questions for hours where defense attorneys for donald trump tried to call into question some small discrepancies in stories shared from the past. including whether she had dinner...
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vaughn hillyard outside the courthouse. also with us, former u.s. attorney and senior fbi official chuck rosenberg, "washington post" national editor philip rucker, co-author of two books about donald trump. joining us in new york, two people who worked in the manhattan district attorney's office, katherine christian and jeremy salind. >> let's get to it. vaughn is outside the courthouse. as the cross-examination continues -- now, it's the defense -- the prosecution, rather, on redirect, how did the defense try to undermine ms. daniels' credibility? at times, she was very aggressive in interrupting, as the defense lawyer tried to pin her down. she would say, no, that's not right and injected things that were very graphic about her career. >> reporter: right. from inside the courtroom, stormy daniels, with confident, went toe to toe with donald trump's lawyer, questioning her credibility by trying to extract stories she had shared about the last 18 years, particularly around the 2011 parking lot incident in which she said she was threatened by an unk
vaughn hillyard outside the courthouse. also with us, former u.s. attorney and senior fbi official chuck rosenberg, "washington post" national editor philip rucker, co-author of two books about donald trump. joining us in new york, two people who worked in the manhattan district attorney's office, katherine christian and jeremy salind. >> let's get to it. vaughn is outside the courthouse. as the cross-examination continues -- now, it's the defense -- the prosecution, rather, on...
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leading us off this hour is nbc news correspondent vaughn hillyard and nbc news legal analyst danny cevallos both in lower manhattan outside the courthouse. vaughn, court ended earlier than it usually does or at least has in recent days. walk us through what happened on the stand today and what you are expecting come monday. >> reporter: right. the prosecution did not call another witness because of their marquee witness to expect this upcoming monday. madeline was the executive assistant inside of the white house for donald trump first two and a half years. she was the gate keeper. she testified meeting between michael choen and donald trump and the pecker and donald trump in 2017. to make an account that there were phone calls placed at certain times between different individuals like michael cohen, keith davidson. >> danny what do you expect michael cohen will testify about? what do you think the jury will focus trying to hear from him and just walk us through what stood out to you today as an attorney physically inside of the courtroom? >> reporter: if you're the jury, for weeks now, you
leading us off this hour is nbc news correspondent vaughn hillyard and nbc news legal analyst danny cevallos both in lower manhattan outside the courthouse. vaughn, court ended earlier than it usually does or at least has in recent days. walk us through what happened on the stand today and what you are expecting come monday. >> reporter: right. the prosecution did not call another witness because of their marquee witness to expect this upcoming monday. madeline was the executive assistant...
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joining me for insight and analysis are nbc news correspondent vaughn hillyard, maria teresa kumar, and republican strategist sara fagen. welcome to sunday, it's "meet the press." >> announcer: from nbc news in washington, the longest running show in television history, this is "meet the press" with kristen welker. >>> good sunday morning. as we come on the air, election day is exactly six months away. dominating the headlines, those campus protests over the war in gaza. president biden spoke out about them on thursday after days of silence, aiming to strike a balance between defending free speech and denouncing violence. >> we are not an authoritarian nation where we silence people or squash dissent. the american people are heard. in fact, peaceful protest is in the best tradition of how americans respond to consequential issues. but neither are we a lawless country. >> more than 2,000 people have been arrested or detained in the last two weeks on campuses across the country as the humanitarian situation in gaza worsens into what world food program executive director cindy mccain told
joining me for insight and analysis are nbc news correspondent vaughn hillyard, maria teresa kumar, and republican strategist sara fagen. welcome to sunday, it's "meet the press." >> announcer: from nbc news in washington, the longest running show in television history, this is "meet the press" with kristen welker. >>> good sunday morning. as we come on the air, election day is exactly six months away. dominating the headlines, those campus protests over the...
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let's bring in two people who have been in the courtroom this week, nbc's vaughn hillyard, and law fair legal fellow and courts correspondent, anna bower, and paul henderson, veteran prosecutor and trial attorney. vaughn, we get to see the transcript transcripts. we are here reading out the google doc in realtime. we miss a lot, we don't hear, we don't see what's happening with our own eyes and ears. so take us inside what that was like yesterday during cross examination and walk us through what we learned. >> when you're there and able to see this up close, i was actually seated next to anna for a while in one of the pews and you realize these are humans. michael cohen is a human, right? and humans have a lot of different personalities and oftentimes we've seen a combative michael cohen. you see the tiktok michael cohen. yesterday you saw a michael cohen who was very dispassionate, regretful, solemn, and that's what the jury saw, and during the cross examination todd blanche, donald trump's attorney repeatedly was was asking him, you know, about the money he made off of his books. he a
let's bring in two people who have been in the courtroom this week, nbc's vaughn hillyard, and law fair legal fellow and courts correspondent, anna bower, and paul henderson, veteran prosecutor and trial attorney. vaughn, we get to see the transcript transcripts. we are here reading out the google doc in realtime. we miss a lot, we don't hear, we don't see what's happening with our own eyes and ears. so take us inside what that was like yesterday during cross examination and walk us through...
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. >> vaughn hillyard outside the courthouse. talk to us about this line of questioning, tracy menzies from harper collins, compelled to testify, so someone under subpoena, and the general counsel for harper collins, which is a major publishing house, is in the courtroom representing. >> right. this is exactly if you're a vp of a publishing company, you anticipate on a thursday. the second one that gets to do this wonderful task before donald trump and the witness stand, reading directly out of one of his books. read cross america day, usually those are dr. seuss books. right now what we're doing is think big, make it happen in business and life, another book here by donald trump, and this is where the publisher is going through there here, and we could expect beginning to read part of this. we are just getting at the fact where the publisher is acknowledging here about obtaining a copy of the book. we're going to have to give it a few moments to see what passages they read through. and you were also talking about karen mcdougal,
. >> vaughn hillyard outside the courthouse. talk to us about this line of questioning, tracy menzies from harper collins, compelled to testify, so someone under subpoena, and the general counsel for harper collins, which is a major publishing house, is in the courtroom representing. >> right. this is exactly if you're a vp of a publishing company, you anticipate on a thursday. the second one that gets to do this wonderful task before donald trump and the witness stand, reading...
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vaughn hillyard is outside of the courthouse for us. brendan buck is the former senior aide to paul ryan, chuck, catherine and duncan with here with us. vaughn, bring us to the scene outside. yesterday, they showed up wearing the same outfit. was it today as well? >> reporter: no. one of the congressmen, he had a tie of donald trump holding and hugging an american flag. there was differentiation in materials of wardrobe. i asked the congressman what led to the decision, but i got no response. i attempted to ask multiple times about the decision for donald trump not to testify. because it was donald trump himself who repeatedly suggested that he would, in fact, take the stand and tell his truth to this jury. ultimately, when the opportunity was presented to him today, the defense rested its case and chose him not to take the stand. you heard from his allies here a few feet from where we are standing say this is a sham prosecution and that -- constantly going that the facts are not true. i tried to follow up with the question. donald trum
vaughn hillyard is outside of the courthouse for us. brendan buck is the former senior aide to paul ryan, chuck, catherine and duncan with here with us. vaughn, bring us to the scene outside. yesterday, they showed up wearing the same outfit. was it today as well? >> reporter: no. one of the congressmen, he had a tie of donald trump holding and hugging an american flag. there was differentiation in materials of wardrobe. i asked the congressman what led to the decision, but i got no...
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let's go to vaughn hillyard for more on all of this. vaughn, tell us more about this line of questioning, cohen's role when trump became president. >> reporter: the defense is getting at the heart of michael cohen's role really didn't change from the time donald trump took office from the time before, when he was working technically for the trump organization. michael cohen never really had a retainer agreement at all while working in that capacity and he was openly touting, as you noted, on sean hannity having other publications posted, that he was all but continuing on in his role in that personal attorney capacity for donald trump. while his role changed to become president, michael cohen's did not. this is hitting at the heart of the idea that it was not unusual for him to not have a retainer agreement. of course, when they were looking at the reimbursement, there is also a note there with weisselberg in which the defense team is able to lay down a foundation here that michael cohen was effectively understanding that he did not need
let's go to vaughn hillyard for more on all of this. vaughn, tell us more about this line of questioning, cohen's role when trump became president. >> reporter: the defense is getting at the heart of michael cohen's role really didn't change from the time donald trump took office from the time before, when he was working technically for the trump organization. michael cohen never really had a retainer agreement at all while working in that capacity and he was openly touting, as you noted,...
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. >> i want to bring back our panel, nbc's vaughn hillyard and also joining us the conversation, former u.s. attorney and msnbc legal analyst, chuck rosenberg. there was two lines at the end of what was probably the most dramatic we have seen so far, this back and forth about this phone call, either ending it and saying the lunch break took the wind out of its sails and left the jury with the idea that he's making points now. how do you see it, and where is he going from here? >> i think juries look at this, chri holistically. what is the jury left with. my experience having done this for a while as a federal prosecutor, they really do look at it holistically. i think the tell will be how the government treats it when they have an opportunity to redirect. do they see it as a problem, if they saw it as a problem, do they want mr. cohen to address it, fix it, clean it up, if he can. and how both sides handle that issue in summation, in argument. >> can i make one point, and if i'm being too simplistic, they're not going to lunch and chatting about what they just saw. i think it's importan
. >> i want to bring back our panel, nbc's vaughn hillyard and also joining us the conversation, former u.s. attorney and msnbc legal analyst, chuck rosenberg. there was two lines at the end of what was probably the most dramatic we have seen so far, this back and forth about this phone call, either ending it and saying the lunch break took the wind out of its sails and left the jury with the idea that he's making points now. how do you see it, and where is he going from here? >> i...
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it's notable and i'm here with vaughn hillyard our nbc correspondent who's been covering the trump campaign. i said at the top of the show, it's notable that he's doing this news conference here at trump tower because it is the literal scene of the crime. it's where the prosecution alleged michael cohen and david pecker both testified that donald trump and the men hatched the scheme to interfere corruptly with the 2016 election. what are you expecting for today? >> right, the 26th floor. we just watched todd blanche go into the elevator and go up. when we were covering the transition after his election in 2016, we watched a great number of people go into that elevator, michael cohen perhaps most often among all of them here. i think the question is, number one, is donald trump actually going to take questions over the course of the last two years, he largely has not taken mainstream news organizations' questions, and so i think that we have already heard him share some grievances about why did the prosecution not call allen weisselberg and keith schiller. the defense could have called them
it's notable and i'm here with vaughn hillyard our nbc correspondent who's been covering the trump campaign. i said at the top of the show, it's notable that he's doing this news conference here at trump tower because it is the literal scene of the crime. it's where the prosecution alleged michael cohen and david pecker both testified that donald trump and the men hatched the scheme to interfere corruptly with the 2016 election. what are you expecting for today? >> right, the 26th floor....