the deal that bill clinton was able to pull together between israel and palestine, then yasser arafat passed on it. why? i said it in real time, because he knew hamas would kill him. he'd end up just like that. they have no idea about this. they have no idea. if they did, they would understand just how dangerous benjamin netanyahu was to the peace process. >> and -- >> they would understand how he had an alliance with hamas, he had an alliance with hamas because the one thing that hamas and benjamin netanyahu had in common is, they saw peace. they saw a two-state solution as a threat to their very existence. >> and on a very local level, what we're looking at right here, as the police are trying to disperse this, is a lot of questions as to how this started. we're going to take a break, by the way, and bring in nypd chief john chell to talk about this. when you see those big pieces of wood, bed frames, whatever they are, and the encampment set up, we have to can how that even started. that's not allowed. like, that creates a threat, and that is -- obviously, you have to get permits an