dr aiysha malik, thank you forjoining us on talking business.here. i know your data suggests that 15% of working—age people have a mental health disorder. what exactly does that mean? yeah, thanks for the question, tadhg. so, having a mental health condition is where we have a negative impact on our thoughts, the way we feel or the way that we behave to an extent that it impacts us in our daily life — so, for example, our ability to participate in work, our ability to be with our families or even at school. and examples of mental health conditions can include things like anxiety and depression, which people may have heard about, which are the most commonly occurring conditions, and it can also include things like schizophrenia or bipolar disorder, which are more severe mental health conditions. many of us can have fleeting moments of poor mental health. doesn't necessarily mean we have a mental health condition, but it might be that we're experiencing a high level of temporary stress. and what are the warning signs that we as individuals should

malik on the issue.e experiencing some difficulties with their mental health, there are a couple of different options available to you. the first one is to go talk to your primary health provider and have that discussion with them, to see if there's any support that they might be able to offer you or refer you to. if it feels difficult to talk to your primary care provider, you could talk with someone you trust and have that conversation with them, and see if that conversation takes you in a direction of either going to your health worker or may be taking some actions for yourself to support your mental health. now if you notice it in a colleague, depending on the quality of your relationship with that person, you might offer to take them for a coffee or lunch, orthat offer to take them for a coffee or lunch, or that kind of a circumstance to just ask how they're doing. see if they open up. now it's important to not pressure people to open up because a lot of people do not feel safe to disclose their men

dr aiysha malik, thank you forjoining us. nice to be here. thank you so much., there's a lot of it on the bbc action line website — that's bbc.co.uk/actionline. well, nearly ten years ago, my next guest became the world's first chief wellbeing officer at the global business services giant deloitte. even today, that might sound like an odd job title. back then, it was revolutionary. sitting in the job alongside the chief executive officer and the chief operating officer, she took wellbeing to the top of the corporation. today, she's the company's human sustainability leader. jen fisher of deloitte, thank you forjoining me. thanks for having me. great to be here. you were the world's first chief wellbeing officer. you're now human sustainability leader at deloitte. but a decade ago, when you took on that role, what was the first change that you wanted to make? ten years ago, we weren't talking about burnout in the workplace. and so as i was going through it, i didn't know what i was going through. ifelt like i didn't have anyone to talk to. i felt like if i spoke