why does donald trump seem to idolize al capone? >> i can't answer that although you bring up a deep sense of nostalgia in me looking at myself. i had the highest rated syndicated show in the history of television, humiliating myself and the united states and 16 other countries when the vault proved to be empty. but this is just more flamboyant rhetoric from the former president. >> people remember it. >> people remember it, and it is the record holder. i'm not embarrassed by it, nor am i embarrassed by my former friendship with donald trump when i look back on it. he is what he is. if people want to vote for him, they have to know that they are absolutely allowing someone who flaunted his opposition to the constitution of the united states. they want that person to be president. what has happened is -- >> you don't want to be friends with somebody who tried to overturn an election, not to cut you off. you said i'm not embarrassed by my friendship with donald trump. >> absolutely not. >> how can you be friends with somebody who want

i often say al capone, he was one of the greatest of all time, if you like criminals, he was a mob boss, the likes of which car face they call him. and he got indicted once. i got indicted four times. >> i want to go back to this one issue, though, because the media has been focussed on this and attacking you under no circumstances. >> yeah. >> you are promising america tonight you would never abuse power as retribution against anybody? >> except for day one. >> except for -- >> he's going crazy. >> meaning. >> i want to close the border and i want to drill, drill, drill. no, no -- >> that's not retribution. >> i'm going to be -- i'm going

i often say al capone was one of the greatest of all time if you like crimimi he was a mob boss the likes of which, scarface they call him, he got indicted wants. i got indicted four times. i wonder what my father and

he probably thinks joe pesci is al capone. "al capone, the most vicious of gangsters.two people who could take him down were elliot ness and kevin mcallister [ laughter ] you know, i met kevin mcallister once he was lost in new york. it was very sad, very sad. [ laughter ] very sad." also, it shouldn't bother me this much, but i hate -- i hate how he says alphonse capone. he's so proud he knows what the al is short for. [ laughter ] he knows one fact and that he's walking around like he's ken jennings he probably only knows it because a box genie told him "for my first wish, i want to be president again. "oh, no can do that's way above my pay grade. i can tell you what al capone's full name is, though you want that? [ laughter ] it's not a wish, but it's a pretty good fun factoid. all right. i'm gonna get back in the box. [ laughter ] so, trump wants to seek revenge on his critics because he's fixated on the investigations he's been through. he's even still obsessed with the russia investigation at a rally just a few days ago, he went out of his way to bring up one of

al capone was indicted six times. you're still losing if that's the threshold. it all kind of feeds into this idea of the two-tier justice system, the fighting for -- but that idea, you're very right, the base loves these issues, the conservative wing kind of what drove that. does that win in a general election in. >> i don't know. i know that's terrible answer on television. i don't know. >> the truth is, there's something about his supporters that like his buggishness, he's sort of going to operate differently and i'm not going to say outside the law -- he's a fighter. that's what plays to the base and that's the problem that the republican party has, that's what his opponents who want to have the nomination, they're facing this over and over again that his base is with him. and when he talks like this, they like it. you heard the applause. >> yeah, absolutely. the other thing i'll say, more than 60% of americans say they want a fighter in office and across party lines, republicans, democrats and independent and kate, can you weigh in on this po point? >> i th

ladies and gentlemen, al capone.ted me.pr ctthese people are sick and bad. so i'm sitting at the desk and a friend of mine is there and says, and he knew something about indiana he says if you could ever get, and this was two years bobby called, he said if you could ever get bobby knight the great basketball coach of indiana, great coach, rough guy though. if you could ever get him, indiana would be guaranteed. i said it's funny because you mention. two years ago i got a call from him and i didn't know it was him. i said i don't know him but there's a coach named bobby knight. so i pickedy up and i immediatey recognized. trump, trump, this is bobby knight. [laughter] but they gave me the number and my friend said bobby knight. i said let's take a look. thousands of pages and it went like to the middle stack. i pulled up a whole pile, put it over here and look at the top and itit was his phone number. is that incredible. it's a god, you're right. what are the odds of doing that and i will never forget i will actually

when he was talking about al capone. he was praising al capone. and praising tick tauters and also said that he would be a dictator on day one and not after day one. but i think that trump is saying all this stuff out loud and has been for a long time. he tries to normalize violence and speaking in a vie will not way about his political enemies he says that he would go after his politicalenmys and his entire campaign is about retribution for attacks on him for the fact that he still says that 2020 was stolen. that he's already forecasting if he loses 2024, will it have been stolen. so he is very much all the his attorneys i have talked to, and i think more and more reporters are diagnosing this as well, adopting authoritarian language and is forecasting had he would overhaul congress. >> sean hannity in that extended version of that exchange was basically trying to get him to say, no, i will not be a dictator. this isn't about revenge, right? trump is like, well, actually. you could see hannity realizes it's in the interest of the former president

al capone was the toughest, meanest guy.inner with him, and if you smiled the wrong way, where he thought maybe you were smiling about him or mocking him, you were dead. you are a dead person. scarface, ever hear of him, al capone? that was where the movie came from. he had a scar from here to here, and he did not get that -- he got indicted one time and i got indicted four times for nothing. one of the reasons our polls are so high, i think 40% higher than they might have been, one reason is because people get it they don't like to see it. they recognize the justice department against republicans, against churches, against -- against parents. i mean, against parents, in favor of school boards that are run horribly. so i think what they did was a big mistake. i know they had two other options, and they said, don't do it again, don't do it again. they will indict him into the white house. do it again. but it is very sad for our country. when that happens, very sad day for our country. if you would work really hard, make sure

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, just like they did with al capone or somebody like john gotti, but they actually are not untouchable. so, he's very, very worried. i do know that he thinks because he appointed six of those -- excuse me, three of those justices but he has six that are conservatives, i do think that he thinks he's got a good shot there. he thinks that that court is politicized and will tip to his favor. and obviously jack smith doesn't think that. i certainly don't think that. and i think it's a great strategy, kaitlan. we'll have to see what happens. but i think the president is very worried. >> whether or not it works. when you say, he's very worried, it's not out there to say that what he is staring down right now potentially is a second term as president or, if he does end up going to trial, as is scheduled right now for at least one of these cases, this one at the heart of this, in march, that he could be potentially facing a prison sentence if they are successful in a conviction. i mean, is that all he's thinking about at this point do you think? >> i do. and i also think that mark meadows -- i

i often say, al capone, he was one of the greatest of all time if you like criminals. [ laughter ] >>sure, who doesn't? [ light laughter ] nothing puts a country at ease like a presidential candidate describing al capone as the greatest of all time [ light laughter ] >> jimmy: "he was the goat he was the goat. i mean jeffrey dahmer was great if you like serial killers. he was -- jeffrey dahmer was good." well, i read that in trump's upcoming election interference trial, federal prosecutors are planning to use his own words against him. and trump wasn't too happy to hear that. they'd be using his exact words. in fact, he just issued a statement about it i have it right here it says, how dare the corrupt prosecutors use my own words against me all of my quotes should be completely anonymous [ light laughter ] or as he calls it -- >> anomynous [ laughter ] >> jimmy: he said it's unamerican and shouldn't happen in the united states or as he calls it -- >> the united sates. [ laughter ] >> jimmy: this wouldn't be allowed in other countries like namibia or thailand. or as he calls them -- >

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i often say al capone, he was one of the greatest of all time, if you like criminals, he was a mob boss the likes of which scar face they call him, and he got indicted once. i got indicted four times. >> susan what do you make of trump comparing himself to al capone. >> he got his gangsters mixed up there. >> he was the greatest of all time. >> look who he looks to as far as great leaders, putin. he looks to north korea. he looks to hungary. he looks to people who are seeking to make -- to have dictatorships. he wants to be a strong man. he has no love for this country. that's what i hear, and that to me is still shocking. i know it shouldn't be. as an american to see someone seeking the presidency who has been president, who has absolutely no love of country what solve. it is all there to meet his needs in his mind. >> real quick, danielle, i hear so often people either taking one side where you cover trump too often or the feedback is you don't cover trump's words that are so dangerous enough, you should be constantly raising alarm bells. that's some of the feedback we get in the medi

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i often say al capone, he was one of the greatest of all time, if you like criminals. >> seth: okay.] but let's just say for the sake of the argument i don't like criminals. [ laughter ] only trump would give someone credit for being one of the greatest criminals of all time he would be such a terrible school counselor "where do you see yourself after high school? robbing liquor stores and sniffing glue. "well, the only advice i'd give is to try to be the best at it." [ light laughter ] so that was trump's first opportunity to say he won't be a dictator, which he passed on then hannity asked him again, and this time trump answered that actually, he would be a dictator, but only for one day >> i want to go back to this one issue, though, because the media has been focused on this and attacking you. >> yeah. >> under no circumstances, you are promising america tonight, you would never have abuse power as retribution against anybody >> except for day one. >> except for -- >> he's going crazy. except for day one >> meaning >> i want to close the border and i want to drill, drill, drill.

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capone. and then he gets around to saying, just dictator day one in terms of what i will do on the border and people here that and they hear the sky continues to be a threat to democracy. our anchor had to beam in to say i won the 2020 election. you can say it is not the most important issue, but people have been voting on preserving democracy. >> i imagine you would say the same about stacey abrams, who was convinced she won the gubernatorial election. stacey abrams will not concede and never conceded she lost the election and the second time around, lost it even bigger. i hope joe sticks with the first answer, the fact that i am the one, i am in this to beat donald trump. if he sticks with that, it goes to the guts of what is going on in this race. it shows biden is more focused on defeating donald trump and his department of justice working with florida and washington, making sure they have these indictments. they won't admit to the meetings that have been had between justice department of

you see al capone, a great guy. the god father was based off of me. we know the brando people. i consulted him on the role. but a dictator is a good thing. america needs it. thank you very much. china. >> the fact that it comes on that quickly. >> it does. i'm sorry. >> i close my eyes for a second and squinted like this -- b you know, it wasn't just him this week who made an impression. chris christie had quite the bone to pick with vivek ramaswamy at this week's debate in tuscaloosa. who one that particular battle? >> there was no winner in my opinion. i just love the fact chris christie used the same tactic as with marco rubio in 2016. ron desantis is a bigger threat than a.i. america, could we take a shot every time ron desantis says, let me tell you buckle up because there's going to be a new sheriff in town. also, laura, ron desantis couldn't admit that donald trump is not fit for office. he won't even admit that his heels don't fit. i don't know what's happening h now. also, laura, what is up with republicans holding up signs in the middle of debates? >> on a white legal

now he's comparing himself to al capone. and saying he would act like a dictator if he's elected president, just for day one. which you could look like in any sinister way you wanted. this is what he said last night during a town hall. >> to be clear, do you in any way have any plans whatsoever if re-elected president to abuse power? to break the law? to use the government to go after people? >> you mean like they're using right now. so. >> under no circumstances, you are promising america tonight you would never abuse power as retribution against anybody? >> except for day one. he's gone crazy. >> meaning? >> i want to close the border and i want to drill, drill, drill. >> that's not -- that's not retribution. >> i'm going -- he keeps -- love this guy. he says you're not going to be a dictator are you. i said, nope, nope, nope. other than day one. we're closing the border and we're drilling, drilling, drilling. after that, i'm not a dictator. >> it was five minutes. >> yeah. >> never actually gave a real answer to the quest

i often say al capone. he was a mob boss and got indicted once. i got indicted four times. >> dana: the goat greatest criminal of all time. capone. one of the things the media is doing is ratcheting up the concern americans should have if president trump returns to power because he would be a dictator and abuse power and one of the reasons sean asked him the question. >> bill: the clip off the top of that. would you abuse power >> you mean like they're doing right now and went on to answer the question the following way. look, it was a packed room. he is a clear favorite in iowa. we'll find out january 15th if all the polling is right right now. >> dana: we shall see. this on the terror watch list. >> i have never seen a time where all the threats or so many of the threats are all elevated all at exactly the same time. blinking red lights analogy about 9/11, all the lights were blinking red before 9/11, apparently all of us missed it. would you say that there is multiple blinking red lights out there? >> i see blinking lights everywhere. >> dana:

i often say al capone was one of the greatest of all time if you like crimimi he was a mob boss the likes of which, scarface they call him, he got indicted wants. i got indicted four times. i wonder what my father and mother would say looking down. >> we've had a lot of private conversations that lead up to your announcement and the day you came down that escalator. we had some passionate discussions back and forth. you were telling me that a rack should give us oil to pay for the war and american blood should not be shed overseas in these long wars. we talked a lot about that. you have been under fire from that day forward. russia, you talk about it all the time. now you face as many as four criminal trials during an election year. i have said this publicly and i will say it in iowa. i am not sure that donald trump can get a fair trial in new york, washington, d.c. i don't think you can get a fair trial in fulton county, georgia. where i think you would do better in terms of real justice would be on appeal. the trials will take place. >> let's do it in iowa! >> there you go. but that has

but i do believe he's al capone here, and he eventually goes down as a result of all this. >> and you think what you're referencing is what we were just talking about, these efforts to keep trump off the ballot. do you agree with those rulings in colorado and maine. is that what you're saying? >> it doesn't matter whether i agree with them or not. i think the constitution is very clear. so, listen, those are democratic legislatures that control those two states. but i think they have made a decision that the constitution is with them. and so we'll have to see what the supreme court says. supreme court rarely gets a law like this wrong. i mean, this is a very serious constitutional issue, and even though a lot of these justices are conservative, i think they will side with the 14th amendment. it's black and white, kaitlan. i know you guys have debated this on the air, and i've watched some of those debates. but this is black and white. ask somebody like professor -- how clear this is. >> we're not even there yet. we're waiting to see what the supreme court decides. but right now trump

president is untouchable, some people think is going to strengthen his candidacy, but i do believe he is al, and he eventually goes down as a result of all of this. >> and you think, what you're referencing is what we were just talking about, these efforts to keep trump off the ballot. you agree with those rulings in colorado in maine, is that what you are saying? >> well, it doesn't matter whether i agree with them or not. i think the constitution is very clear. so, listen, those are democratic legislatures that control those two states, but i think they have made a decision that the constitution is with them. and so, we'll have to see what the supreme court says. the supreme court rarely gets a lot like this wrong. i mean, this is a very serious constitutional issue, and even though a lot of these justices are conservative, i think they will side with the 14th amendment. it's black and white, kaitlan, and you -- have debated this on the air, and i watch some of this debates. and this is black and white, -- and >> but we're not even there are with this, we're waiting to see what the suprem

i often say al capone, he was one of the greatest of all-time, he was a mob boss, the likes of which scar face they call him, and he got indicted once. i got indicted four time. >> i want to go back to this one issue, though, because the media has been focused on this. and under no circumstances you're promising america tonight you'd never abuse power as retribution against anybody? >> except for day one. except for day one. >> meaning? >> i want to close the border and i want to drill, drill, drill. >> that's not -- that's not retribution. >> i'm going to be -- you're not going to be a dictator are you? nope, except day one. >> response to those comments the biden campaign released a statement writing this. donald trump has been telling us exactly what he'll do if he's re-elected, and tonight he said he'll be a dictator on day one. americans should believe him. >>> meanwhile, a new court filing reveals the evidence that special counsel jack smith believes will prove trump guilty of election interference. that evidence, the former president's own words. prosecutors said yesterday the

i don't want to end up co-hosting inside al capone's storage unit with geraldo.laughter] >> tyrus: heard that was getting picked up. >> greg: yeah. but today's protester tries to build themselves up by being a nuisance to you and me. and what happens long term? things of value are out of their reach precisely because their own behavior prevents it. no one wants to be around them. so this new kind of protest becomes a religion without tran sendens compassion or forgiveness. it is a tantrum the opposite of productive. it's hard to build things people care about but babies can build soup. so they give the narcissist the attention they crave and a sense of moral superiority. some are so narcissistic they refuse any accountability at all like a group of protesters blocking the bay bridge in san fran. they're demanding the charges be dropped and one of the attorneys even characterized the charges as inflammatory. meanwhile, three kerriers were trapped and one surgery had to be cancelled. the narcissists were literally putting lives on the line. just not theirs. but tha

the administration is smart to go after the financing and sealed al capone's strategy, follow the money have ultimately some limited effect. but frankly, yasmin, what you and have have talked about is why are there two nuclear powered strike groups in the region right now. one is to deter iran in the case of israel, but the other one is there and it's parked at the bottom of the red sea specifically to go after these houthi rebels. >> what are you more worried about, the supply chain disruption and/or not the degree, by the way, but what may actually happen and/or a direct war between the united states and iran if it progresses to that point? >> yeah, much more worried about the latter. the markets will be able to kind of work through supply chain, there's an alternative. you can take the long route, if you will, go around the cape of good hope at the bottom of africa, but what we really ought to worry about is that this proxy activity, these houthis are creatures of tehran. if that continues and escalates to u.s. versus iran, then you've got a real market impacting event, not to say ev

they thought he would leave when he got indicted, more than al capone.s the raid at mar-a-lago, this stuff about insurrection. it's almost as though, i would argue, that americans have topped out when it comes to things that are said about trump, the anything else said now is going to just go in one ear and out another, because of the shenanigans we've been watching. >> absolutely, tammy. even to go back before the end of this presidency to the trump-russia collusion dominating the news cycle for three years, the robert mueller report comes out and there is one big nothing burger without the bun, and now we have a situation happening here, to doug's point. can joe biden run on his record? can he run on inflation and the economy? no, he cannot. can you run on crime in major cities driving people out of cities to places like tennessee and florida? no, he can't. can he run on foreign policy when the world seems like it's on fire at this point? no, he can't, and he can't run on the u.s. southern border, which is past crisis point. we are in a place where no

. >> i often say al capone, he was one of the greatest of all time, if you like criminals, he was a mob boss, the likes of which, scar face, they call him and he got indicted once. i got indicted four times. i wonder what my father and mother would say looking down. >> sandra, last week the judge gave the trump team a blow when she ruled the presidential immunity does not protect him from charges. she wrote whatever immunity a sitting president may enjoy, the united states has only one chief executive at a time and that is not a lifelong get out of jail free pass. former presidents enjoy no special conditions on their federal criminal liability. may be subject to federal indictment, prosecution and punishment for criminal acts undertaken while in office. now the president, former president, trump, expecting to go to trial march 4th, one day before supertuesday. balancing the campaign calendar and the court calendar together. back to you. >> sandra: march 4th will come up fast. thank you. >> john: byron york, chief political correspondent for the washington examiner and fox news contribu

emily, what if this turns out to be another al capone's vault?s a special on it? he's free. >> emily: so and i, i'll do the special. you guys, i felt like the judge was sort of wanting to temper expectations. don't get excited because she said "you guys," and i paraphrase, essentially a lot of them are not salacious and that's why i'm going to reveal the names, and also she wrote in the order that they have been allegations reported before. i think you're going to get the list and be like, oh, it's exactly who we've been talking about and whatever. however, she also said everyone who said please don't redact because my life will be ruined, because of adverse publicity, because i'll be embarrassed, divorced, fired, et cetera, she said that's not good enough, i don't give a [bleep]. >> tyrus: right to my face! [laughter] >> emily: so it's not going to necessarily be explosive. >> greg: like the diarrhea? >> emily: but i don't know. >> tyrus: but, to be clear, tyrus was never on the island. >> greg: we've got to move on. up next, a bathroom got defi

i often say al capone, he was one of the greatest of all time, if you like criminals.was a mob boss the likes of which scar face they call him, and he got indicted once. i got indicted four times. >> nonresponsive to say the least, but i mean, this is someone who said he could shoot someone on 5th avenue and, you know, still win, and some people have suggested, yeah, maybe that's true. do you think he says this stuff because he believes that's what voters want to hear, because he thinks they don't care or simply because that's really what he thinks? >> well, he -- first of all, it's worth noting that that wasn't just a softball from hannity. it was sort of the softest of soft nerf balls lobbed up quite slowly, and it should not be that difficult to disavow the idea that you would like to be a dictator on day one if you took office again. what's happening here, frankly s a fascinating dynamic, which is that former president trump is saying this because it's how he feels. it's what he believes. it's what he thinks his voters want to hear, but the people around him, a num

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i often say al capone. he was one of the greatest of all time, if you like, criminals. a mob boss, the likes of which scarface, they call him. h, scarftheyand got indicted. once i got indicted four times. >> i wonder what my father and mother would say looking down. ad a l >> we had a lot of privateot conversations in the lead up to your announcement the day that you came downyo that escalator and that leadthac up. i mean, we had some passionate discussions back and forthator. you were telling me that iraq should give us oil to pa y forr and the war and american blood should not be shed overseasam ea in these long protracted wars. >> we talked a lot about that. a lot aband you have been under fire from that day forward. russia , you talk about itth all the time. now you face as many as four criminal trials during an election year. now, i've said this publicly and i'll say it herewi in iowa. i'm not sure that donald d yorkp can get a fair trialon in new york, washington, d.c. i don't think you can get al in fair trial in fulton county, georgia. non countyw where i think

they thought perhaps people would leave him when he got indicted. 91 times more, more than al capone. know he got the raid at mar a lago. you've got this stuff about incivek. it's almost as though i would argue that americans topped out when it comes to things that are said about trump, that anything else said now is going to just go in one ear and out another because of the shenanigans that we've been watching. >> absolutely. i mean, even go back before the end of this presidency to trump russia collusion dominating news cycle for three years. the robert mueller report comes out and there is one big nothing burger without the bun. and now we have a situation here to doug's point, where can joe biden run on his record? can he run on inflation and the economy. no, he cannot. can he run on crime in major cities driving people out of san francisco, chicago, new york and other major cities to places like tennessee and texas and florida? no, he can't. can he run on foreign policy where the world seems like it's on fire at this point? no, he can't. and he cannot run on the us southern borde

i often say al capone, he was one of the greatest of all time, if you like criminals, he was a mob bosslikes of which car face they call him. and he got indicted once. i got indicted four times. >> i want to go back to this one issue, though, because the media has been focussed on this and attacking you under no circumstances. >> yeah. >> you are promising america tonight you would never abuse power as retribution against anybody? >> except for day one. >> except for -- >> he's going crazy. >> meaning. >> i want to close the border and i want to drill, drill, drill. no, no -- >> that's not retribution. >> i'm going to be -- i'm going to be -- you know, he keeps -- we love this guy. he says you're not going to be a dictator, are you? no, no, no, other than day one. >> it's kind of like that. >> believe him. >> we talked about. we talked about this. remember. donald trump doesn't do it. you didn't take all those documents back to your beach club? i did and i had the right to do it. hannity kind of droops his head. but the point is, again, he's saying now just explicitly, i'm going to do a

well, al capone was a great guy. well, al capone was a great guy. no to answer your question, martin, we do not want to go there . there. >> okay, spencer. thank you. always a pleasure , never a always a pleasure, never a chore. but maybe that's the way it's going. anyway. maybe we need to the off now. need to get the gloves off now. there's come there's still lots more to come between now and we'll between now and 4:00. we'll cross live to the home office, where activists will protest against policy for it being immigration policy for it being too weak . but first, there's too weak. but first, there's your latest news headlines with tatiana sanchez . tatiana sanchez. >> martin. thank you. 331 this is the latest from the gb newsroom, a body that was found in the river wensum in norwich has been formally identified as missing mother of three gaynor lord. the 55 year old disappeared after leaving work in the city centre on the 8th of december. police say the cause of death appears to be consistent with drowning and there no indications of any there ar

. >> he has said that he's been indicted more times than the great al capone.great xi jinping, the great vladimir putin, his language, his behavior in recent days has gone even further than normally does for donald trump. what do you make of that? because we're not even in january yet and he's bringing out the hit quotes. >> that was something. the hitler quotes, as a jew, i never feel like that's a good sign. i would say i think that trump and these indictments could really depress turnout. his base will always have his back, but if you're a swing voter in pennsylvania and you're a socer mom, maybe you say i don't know about this guy. i think it's been hard to sort of hold your nose and vote for this guy for the tax cuts. i think that gets harder if he gets indicted. he's going to go down swinging and that's what we see with his aud autocrat talk. >> he's pulling out all the stuff. it's not january yet. if you were to guess given the timeline of all of these cases, are any of these criminal cases going to be settled before the election, in your opinion? >> tha

i often say, al capone, he was one of the greatest of all time if you like criminals, he was a mob boss call him. he got indicted once. i was indicted four times. >> i want to go back to this one issue, though, because the media has been focused on this and attacking you. under no circumstances, you are promising america tonight, you would never abuse power as retribution against anybody? >> except for day one. >> except for? >> except for day one. >> meaning? >> i want to close the border, and i want to drill, drill, drill. >> that's not retribution. >> i'm going to be -- i'm going to be -- you know, we love this guy. he says, "you're not going to be a dictator, are you?" i say, "no, no, other than day one." >> we talked about this. remember the answer? we talked about it, donald trump doesn't do it. previous interview, said, "you didn't take thedocuments, did you?" he says, "i did." hannity drops his head. if you don't think this will all happen day one, you have a bridge across the river for you here. we have the dangers of a potential second term. >> willie, think about it, if any o