the talk was on, that is, so when the film ended, al giddings, he was commenting on this film for 47utes, walter cronkite, so to speak, a famous announcer, i remember when i showed this film to georgy arkadyevich arbatov, the director of the institute united states of america and canada, he says that you... advertise, he says, walter cronkie, i, he says, got up and left, these were arbatov's words, i remember, well, well , this film, you see, jim, you see, and as al giddins already told me, he says, everyone had already left the hall, and we sat for 2.5 hours, he says, talked, so in general, he says, gene asked many times, asked about me, wanted to meet with me, here is the first meeting in july... very interesting, of course, everyone really liked this thing, so to speak, jim was very puzzled that we, so to speak, like this, so this is what we did to him. it was 5 years before the release of titanic in 1997, if you count 1997, practically yes, 1997, well then 2 years were spent on different things, well he thought, well and as dzon bruno, his special effects assistant, told me later