of the soviet union and the administration of the president of russia are oriented towards this, and alarinarovych told me: it seems to me that they underestimate the ukrainian people and underestimate the ukrainian apparatus. well, that's a completely logical phrase for leonid makarovich, i think, i always believed that leonid makarovich was a wiser person than me and believed that everything worked out for him, it will work out and everything worked out for her, but the question is that leonid kravchuk... let's say, was guided by a completely different paradigm when he thought about the referendum than the representatives of the ukrainian national democrats and than the representatives of the russian and soviet political leadership. he understood that ukrainians would vote for economic independence. all our propaganda before the referendum was propaganda of an economic nature. there are 10 children in a large family, and they don't get everything. in a small family, there is only one child, and everything will be hers. well, i'm like one. a child in the family, i absolutely agree with thi