let's discuss this further now with the former conservative party mep david campbell bannerman. david, welcome to the show. always a delight, david. before we start talking about the candidates, can i ask you about this hour's breaking news? and it's this that tory mp lucy allan has been suspended by the conservative party for backing reform uk's candidate in the telford seat that she is vacating. astonishing news and yet another headache for the prime minister >> well, i mean, you obviously you can't in an election particularly, you know, vote for the opposition or encourage voting and funding for the opposition , as she appears to opposition, as she appears to have done. >> and no, i mean, it's not very helpful. >> it's not helpful to her successor. she's stepping down. i know, or to anyone else that she's standing. >> i think, you know, sorry. >> i think, you know, sorry. >> it is the election. >> it is the election. >> you have to choose which side you're on, and i don't think it helps for her to be supporting reform there. >> well, it doesn't help rishi sunak, but she's obv