. -- almar latour or. let's start with your reaction to the conviction and the sentence.e you expecting 16 years? >> two reactions really. we are appalled at the 16 year sentence. it's an insult on freight press and evan, it's terribly distressing and it's wrong because all of this is based on false charges, a sham trial and lies. manufactured lies. on the other hand, if you look at the history of autocratic regimes and particularly the one in russia, we know that there a very high chance for trials like these to end in a conviction and pretty heavy sentencing. we were expecting that to some degree, but it hits hard. amna: we saw him in the courtroom. his head has been shaved. how did he seem? >> shaved head is somewhat recent. it happened when he was moved to a new facility. he looks a little skinnier than i believe we have observed before. you can see that he is resilient , but the russian regime has really applied all the symbolism of making him look like someone who committed a crime. and so that's distressing to see him effectively dressed up like that, just absolute