>> i think we know what the arguments are just because all the briefs have been filed, all the amicas briefs have been filed. what we can expect to hear are the questions from the justices themselves which will be an indicator as to whether they'll go to the meat of this, looking to see whether donald trump engaged in an insurrection, or, instead, they're looking for an off-ramp to dodge the big question. as the justices ask questions, what will be interesting to hear is the focus of those questions, but also whether some justices are using their opportunity to ask questions as sort of advocating for a particular position or another. that's what makes it fascinating to listen to the oral argument. >> barbara, obviously, the supreme court, any court, is supposed to stick to the law. 14th amendment, section 3 in this case. there are obviously larger implications here. we've heard even some democrats, heard some allies of president biden on other networks saying they worry about the implications of keeping donald trump off of a ballot, what it means for the country, what it means for tel