have andy mcdonald.ter plan ? better plan? >> uh, well, i'd love to see what that plan is. every time we ask for it. uh, there is none forthcoming. let's be very clear about this. every single time. every step of the way that a bill has been put through parliament to try and stop illegal immigration. labour have voted it down every single time. it's a number in excess of 80 times now. and we all know that their plan is to have completely open borders . we all know that open borders. we all know that they want to rejoin the european union, that would mean that if that that would not only would we have under the schengen agreement, completely open borders for migration, but they would also sign up to the deal with the eu agreeing to 120,000 asylum seekers every single year . so if they think it's bad now, and let me be absolutely clear with this, the conservatives have performed very badly over migration and illegal immigration. i'm one of these straight talking members of parliament who calls it as it is,