finally, justice, when you asked questions about anne chambers and her experience of the high court,s that right? mr; proceedings. is that right? my concern was that if any employee was in conversation a legal representative without serious engagement, i felt it was not appropriate, and she felt the same to be _ appropriate, and she felt the same to be involved in the situation. 30 to be involved in the situation. so the to be involved in the situation. the company to be involved in the situation. 5r the company acted as a sort of interlocutor to be in dialogue with the employee to make sure they understood what they were doing and what was being asked of them? i what was being asked of them? i think as i was asked earlier, this concept — think as i was asked earlier, this concept of— think as i was asked earlier, this concept of expert witness, this is very serious, we are dealing with serious _ very serious, we are dealing with serious matters. i did not feel that they felt— serious matters. i did not feel that they felt the same, they needed proper— they felt the same, they needed