and joining us now on c span is anthea hartig. she is the president of the organizing session of american historians, which is what? well, since 1907, the age has been in service as a nonprofit and association of historians, mostly in the early days and teaching at universities. but now our membership spans museum curators, high school history teachers, and, of course, including junior college and for year and beyond, colleges. and really kind of coming together in a community of historians, as you can see behind us, of course, the most of the university presses who come and honor scholars work by bringing their books forth. but the organization headquartered in bloomington, indiana, is at the university of indiana. there has been serving and continuing to refine its mission to really understand what it means to be in service to the field. how we help educators, how we help policymakers understand the past's relevance to our contemporary lives, and to the future. how is it different than the american historical association? mm. h