would have in, it was false flag operation obviously, and um we finished the dance, ray went home to antrum uh in his own car, because we had the following night off, the thursday night off, so there's five of us got back into the minibus, we had a volkswagen minibus uh, for the personnel, we didn't travel with the equipment, the only equip we carried was our our guitar, so tony garty and i, tony was lead player, i was base player, we carried our equipment, sometimes we would have brought dez macaley, desly as he called himself, his saxophone with him, and we that was the case that night, so this is tony's guitar, my guitar and z's car, and if you if you know the the way they're constructed those um volkswagen, minibuses there's the engine is in the back and there's a little shelf at the back so you can lift a window over the engine and there was a little shelf and that's where we used to put those instruments, we wouldn't give our guitars to the road because rodies are inclined to throw stuff into the van and you know it's a bit like somebody working an airline you know with your case uh y