so >> well, kate hoey, baroness hoey, thank you for joining >> well, kate hoey, baroness hoey, thanking us hoey, thank you for joining us tonight on state of the nation. great to see you here. with me now is a friend of the program, human rights lawyer ivan sampson . ivan, good evening. good to see you. who is sovereign in northern ireland, the uk or the eu ? eu? >> well, we have obligations under international treaties . under international treaties. and you may. it's not a question of whose sovereign, but our domestic laws must comply with those obligations. the reason that we haven't been able to send anyone to rwanda is because of the european convention on human rights. so it tells you sovereign , that european sovereign, that european convention trumped the plans of the government through the rule 39 interim measures, now, i agree with baroness hoey because she said the supreme court won't see a different view than the high court in northern ireland, and there's no other way they can read it, because the good friday agreement protected fundamental human rights in, in, in entren