somewhere between 2,500.4500, which would allow allowed them to hold critical us assets, including bcg rooms international airport here, take a listen to this we should have held at 2,500 at 2,500 us forces. if you also assume that will allow the afghans to stay in the fight, you can maintain a viable base at bagram, but there's little question in my mind that had the united states that either president agreement to withdraw if we didn't withdraw 100% that we would've been back at war with tell him that's right >> you get a sense between those two clips. they're of a difficult position. the biden administration was in to violate the doha agreement from the trump administration would have led to an open war with the taliban. once again, you heard that from mark milley there, whereas essentially pulling all the troops out means you lose some of the critical us acids that had been there, like bagram airbase. so a challenging position, once again, we hear million mackenzie going through their perspective on how the chaotic withdrawal all played out there >> no significant testimony from th