ben rhodes, an msnbc contributor, and collin clark, director of research for the sufan group. thank you for being here. what is the latest we know about this, raf? >> reporter: you heard the president say he holds iran responsible for the attack in jordan, in the sense that they provided the weapons to the group, the iranian-backed group, which actually pulled the trigger. it is worth saying the iranians are denying that they were involved in the sense of actually giving the orders to these so-called resistance groups to attack american forces. the iranian foreign ministry saying the attack in jordan was a natural response to america's support for israeli forces operating in gaza. but in terms of how and where the u.s. retaliates for this deadly attack, the president has options. the most obvious would be strikes in syria, potentially also in iraq, against these iranian-backed militant groups, who are responsible not just for the attack in jordan, but months now, more than 160 attacks against american forces in the middle east, the president could take one step further up the

if i made tara before, my deputy national security adviser in america, ben rhodes, become he can pet as the latest attacks against the government as to the opening, potentially opening pandora's box. what does he mean by? he means a wider regional war. he means that iran will get involved. now, now there's been some pushing, pull about how much control that iran has over young men. and according to us intelligence they don't. and that's a, you know, they're acting on their own as far as that goes. and so you're right, government has, has talked about the how do you have talked about having solid already with palestinians and the genocide that they're incurring and also wanting relief, medical release. and all of that america is not addressing, that they're simply addressing the fact that the commercial lines and the, you know, the, that was going on and furthering their attack and their regression. now what this is going to do is this is also upsetting the saudis, the saudis put out a statement telling me us to backup. and we had gotten through as you know, just a few years ago with

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joining me now is ben rhodes, former deputy national security advisor in the obama administration and co-host of course of "pod save the world." ben, thank you for being here tonight. this seems just like an extraordinarily difficult line for the white house to walk, calibrating how much is enough to try and get the houthi rebels to stop and how much is too much that will draw the u.s. into a war with iran. i mean what do you make of the decision here and the sort of careful calibration? >> i think this is a pretty major escalation, alex. there's no question that the u.s. military has a responsibility and a right to protect shipping in the red sea. there's a commonly understood right to freedom of navigation, the right of ships to perceive that harassment. so the idea you would take military action against houthi ships that are harassing those container ships and other vessels in the red sea including u.s. military vessels, that's one thing. to go after the houthi kind of command and control infrastructure and the houthi bases in yemen, that is a different thing, and that's what the a

joining me now is ben rhodes, who served as a deputy national security adviser to obama.mportant, they've been firing, it's incredibly dangerous, they're firing projectiles at commercial ships. , biden saying it's not -- doing it. it's almost like a joke you'd write about american foreign policy in the middle east? >> yeah, it's an incredibly revealing comment. look, chris, defending ships that are passing through the red sea is a mission for the u.s. military, we protect the global economy. however, the escalation into yemen has been a mistake and it's dangerous for a number of reasons. number one, the houthis live there, they're not going anywhere, you're not gonna militarily defeat the houthis with strikes, they've weathered war, they've gotten stronger and more resilient through that process. second, they're not gonna be deterred, they want this conflict, this is -- >> they're raising their profile and doing. so >> this is a problem we're seeing across the region. hamas, they want conflict, they want the u.s. in the conflict. the houthis, what the u.s. in the conflict

joining me now is ben rhodes, former deputy national security adviser for president barack obama and cohost of the pod save the world podcast. and niera hawk, a former state department senior adviser and former white house senior director. thank you both for being here. ben, i will start with you. this drum beat once again from some of the usual suspects thinking lindsey graham in the wake of this horrible -- the horrible deaths of these three army u.s. army members. your thoughts on that. >> well, i mean, there hasn't been a problem that lindsey graham hasn't identified the solution as bombing iran for a long time in the middle east. i think if we step back from this, there's some things we have to bear in mind. what has put our troops at risk is the escalation in the middle east. it's the escalation in the last three months. obviously, centered in the war in gaza since october 7th, but also the violence we have seen across the region. and the deeper the united states gets itself into this kind of game of quicksand and tit for tat with these different proxies across the region, the

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rhodes called this a norm as establishment that really decides us foreign policy. mark your delight to talk to thank you. my friend, i enjoyed the conversation. thanks for having me rick. it's always a pleasure. likewise. hey, before we go, i want to remind you of our mission and simple. really. what we want to do is try and the silo the world. we've got to stop living in these little boxes where we think only our information matters. and it's all we read are see troops don't live in boxes to this everywhere. i'm actually interest. i'll be looking for you again right here where i hope to provide a direct impact. the choice between democracy and talk or see is a false one. because the ultimate issue is about who controls information the means of production and distribution and who controls money in debt. and increasingly, in the united states, for, for that matter. but in china, russia in other countries, is controlled by multinational corporations which are not an alternative government, but are rather a form of government itself, which is on account of the name of

rhodes called this a norm as establishment that really decides us foreign policy. mark your delight, the doctor. thank you, my friend. i enjoyed the conversation. thanks for having me, rick. it's always a pleasure. likewise. hey, before we go, i want to remind you of our mission and simple. really. what we want to do is trying the silo the world. we've got to stop living in these little boxes where we think only our information matters. and it's all we read or see troops don't live in boxes to does everywhere. i'm actually interest. i'll be looking for you again right here, where i hope to provide a direct impact the the take a fresh look around there's a life kaleidoscopic, isn't just a shifted reality distortion by tell us to do vision with no real opinions. fixtures, design to simplify will confuse really once a better wills, and is it just as a chosen for you? correct? sure, it images presented to this, but can you see through their illusions, going underground? can the headlines or one or 2 years old jerry, a cold for the un security council to convene in a bi

rhodes called this a norm as establishment that really decides us foreign policy. mark your delight to talk to thank you. my friend, i enjoyed the conversation. thanks for having me rick. it's always a pleasure. likewise. hey, before we go, i want to remind you of our mission. it's simple, really. what we want to do is trying the silo the world. we've got to stop living in these little boxes where we think only our information matters. and it's all we read are see troops don't live in boxes to this everywhere of how much the interest i'll be looking for you again, right here, where i hope to provide a direct impact. the take a fresh look around. there's a life kaleidoscopic, isn't just a shifted reality distortion by power to division with no real opinions. fixtures, design to simplify will confuse really once a better wills, and is it just as a chosen for you? correct? sure. the images presented. it is. but can you see through their illusion going underground can a few issues of polarized the world recently, like israel's war on gaza. the west defends israel's col

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the united states mass murder is also meanwhile, the full by us, the deputy national security advisor ben rhodes, said that washington's options in yemen could cause a domino effect in the region and drag other states into this fight, and once you do that, you potentially open a pen doors box because they are connected to a network of groups that could take action against united states in a rock that could escalate the war across the region. yeah. and they could ultimately lead to a regional war the draws in wrong. and so the stakes and this are enormous. yeah, the site right now. so he was secretary of state anthony blaine kind of wrapped up, is a diplomatic tour of the middle east. and he visited a turkey, a jordan, the you a box, right. and in egypt, old trying to discuss what's going on between guys are in israel. the said the us is doing its best to stop the conflicting gaza from scaling over the border. we were focused on making sure that the complex ongoing now guys are doesn't spread out to other places. so that's been our focus since since october 7th and it remains our focus. so

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. >> we start there today with national security and pentagon security and ben rhodes and retired four-star general and msnbc military analyst barry mccaffrey.you. what is the state of play in the region now? >> some in the regiony colluding iran not surprisingly support and bang roll the houthi militia in yemen have condemned these strikes, but some like the ammy they could escalate regional tensions. that being said, one of the major reasons the u.s. conducted these strikes when they did last night was because they were waiting until they could build more of a coalition. the u.s. did not want to go it alone on these strikes. so what we saw last night was the u.s. and the british militaries coming together to carry out what i have to say was a very lae-ale attack against houthi militants. talking nearly 30 different locations. more than 60 targets, and more than 150 precision-guided bombs and missiles launched at various houthi sites throughout the houthi-controlled part of yemen last night. a very large-scale attack here, but what the u.s. was trying to do for weeks, since they first star

said this quicksand of escalation that some of these militias are pining for. >> ben rhodes, ramikhouri. thank you. >>> the big cases looming over the 123rk9 as donald trump marks us closer and closer to the general election and biden's policy is taking shape leaning into taking down the gop likely nominee any way he can and perhaps hoping for a pop from big name endorsements and donald trump given 83.3 million reasons to keep quiet when it comes to e. jean carroll, will they work? we'll look at that and the other financial hits that could be coming when "deadline: white house" continues. after this. we come from a long line of cowboys. (♪♪) when i see all of us out here on this ranch, i see how far our legacy can go. (♪♪) he hits his mark —center stage—and is crushed by a baby grand piano. you're replacing me? customize and save with liberty bibberty. he doesn't even have a mustache. only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ [city ambience sounds] [car screech] [car door slam] [camera shutter sfx] introducing ned's plaque psoriasis. [camera shutter sfx] he thi

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