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ben rhodes, always a pleasure, great to see you. thank you so much for your time tonight. >>> and we have one more story for you tonight. the plan by trump and his allies to infuse a second-term administration with christian nationalism. the journalist behind this reporting joins me next. e journs reporting joins me next. ah, these bills are crazy. she has no idea she's sitting on a goldmine. well she doesn't know that if she owns a life insurance policy of $100,000 or more she can sell all or part of it to coventry for cash. even a term policy. even a term policy? even a term policy! find out if you're sitting on a goldmine. call coventry direct today at the number on your screen, or visit coventrydirect.com. >>> new reporting from politico today points to a broad concerted effort between donald trump and his allies who are preparing to enter christian nationalism in his next administration should he win a second term. politico reports the person leading this effort is the president of the center for renewing america think tank, a
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my friend, ben rhodes, joins me now. hi, ben.s issue so well. but i just have to start and ask you this question over the weekend, but here you are, what do you make of tucker carlson being in moscow? >> first of all, those pictures -- i look pretty tired, jen. >> we both do, it's okay. >> [laughter] yeah, i think it would be easy but wrong to dismiss this as trolling. the reality is that there is an ideological affinity it should be taken seriously. you know, vladimir putin is trying to present himself as the vanguard of representing some kind of retrograde christian values. he's targeted immigrants. he's targeted lgbt communities in russia. he's demagogued all opponents. he's attacked cancel culture. he's kind of positioned himself as a pretty familiar figure on the american right, a strong man who will vanquish your enemies on your behalf. and that is essentially the message that he has refined in ways that, i think, we hear echoed not just by donald trump, but increasing corners of the republican party. and tucker carlson rep
my friend, ben rhodes, joins me now. hi, ben.s issue so well. but i just have to start and ask you this question over the weekend, but here you are, what do you make of tucker carlson being in moscow? >> first of all, those pictures -- i look pretty tired, jen. >> we both do, it's okay. >> [laughter] yeah, i think it would be easy but wrong to dismiss this as trolling. the reality is that there is an ideological affinity it should be taken seriously. you know, vladimir putin...
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joining me now, ben rhodes, former deputy director for president obama. ben, help us out, secretary austin mentioned taking away even more capability from the enemies in the region. what does that mean? >> look, you have this range of groups, across lebanon, iraq, syria, and into iran. there are different militias with different interests. they all have a shared ideology of resistance to the united states presidents in the region. not position to israel, and -- obviously for how law hamas the conflict in gaza. and they all draw support from the iranian revolutionary guard. that is the main for efforts supporting militias across the region. what the u. s. is looking at his efforts, not to strike inside of iran, which could potentially precipitate a real -- regional conflagration which could lead to a war, huge cost of the global economy. the -- question is how do you disrupt this network in ways that protect u. s. service members that are in the region, and that try to back these groups off of the kind of tit- for-tat that we -- particularly in iraq and sy
joining me now, ben rhodes, former deputy director for president obama. ben, help us out, secretary austin mentioned taking away even more capability from the enemies in the region. what does that mean? >> look, you have this range of groups, across lebanon, iraq, syria, and into iran. there are different militias with different interests. they all have a shared ideology of resistance to the united states presidents in the region. not position to israel, and -- obviously for how law hamas...
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. >> ben rhodes, former deputy national security adviser to president obama and msnbc political analyst of alexei navalny. this will be on the order of nelson mandela being murdered in prison by the regime. what does it mean for hope in russia? hope that the russian people might be able to hold on to? >> well, i mean, it is a dark, dark time and why navalny represented was someone who was unafraid of putin. his whole life and career was dedicated to exposing the wrought and corruption and hypocrisy and lies of putin and his regime. navalny, who was poisoned, and almost killed by putin, of course, was in germany and famously chose to go back to russia, knowing exactly what was in store for him. i think he believed that either he would stay alive and someday be president of russia, or he knew the risks. i talked to lawrence in the last book, i will never forget him saying to be, when the door claims shut in the present behind you, you know that they can do anything to, you were his words. i think he played that if he died i'm broken and unafraid, that that example would someday cause the
. >> ben rhodes, former deputy national security adviser to president obama and msnbc political analyst of alexei navalny. this will be on the order of nelson mandela being murdered in prison by the regime. what does it mean for hope in russia? hope that the russian people might be able to hold on to? >> well, i mean, it is a dark, dark time and why navalny represented was someone who was unafraid of putin. his whole life and career was dedicated to exposing the wrought and...
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ben rhodes is a former deputy national security adviser to the united states. up next, we'll continue our live coverage of the u.s. air strikes. also still ahead, the absolute blockbuster jobs numbers showing to our economy is moving, forcing even the presidents rivals to admit that the economic policies are working. the chair of the economic white house council advisor jared bernstein joins us after this break. later, in the, hour -- which includes a new effort focusing on the states all republican supreme court. the united states congresswoman jasmine crockett joins me here. stay with us. with us. lete, balanced nutrition for strength and energy. yay - woo hoo! ensure, with 27 vitamins and minerals, nutrients for immune health. and ensure complete with 30 grams of protein. (♪♪) ♪ i have type 2 diabetes, but i manage it well ♪ ♪ jardiance! ♪ ♪ it's a little pill with a big story to tell ♪ ♪ i take once-daily jardiance ♪ ♪ at each day's start! ♪ ♪ as time went on it was easy to see ♪ ♪ i'm lowering my a1c! ♪ jardiance works twenty-four seven in your body to flu
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. >>> now, let's turn to ben rhodes, former deputy national security adviser under president obama. that, thank you for being here tonight. i know you've had a busy couple of hours on this network. the first thing i have to ask you, i'm old enough to remember the first time u.s. struck targets in iraq, and we're talking a lot about iran here. i wonder what you think the implications are striking targets in iraq to go after iran these heavy the u.s. relationship with iraq? >> well, i think it's potentially very complicated, alex. the reality is it is groups have been operating, as missy said, in iraq since the height of the iraqi war. they are pretty entrenched there. and the u.s. sent 2500 troops in iraq dating back to the campaign after we withdrew from iraq in 2011, 2500 remained as part of supporting counterterrorism operations, training the iraqi forces. but their presence is controversial in part of iraq and part of what these groups want is to provoke the u.s. and action that lead to the iraqi government asking the u. s. to get out, essentially. and that maybe what is happenin
. >>> now, let's turn to ben rhodes, former deputy national security adviser under president obama. that, thank you for being here tonight. i know you've had a busy couple of hours on this network. the first thing i have to ask you, i'm old enough to remember the first time u.s. struck targets in iraq, and we're talking a lot about iran here. i wonder what you think the implications are striking targets in iraq to go after iran these heavy the u.s. relationship with iraq? >>...
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both supplies and subsidized by doha, by israel with the most right wing coalition it's had, ben rhodes to deal with them, president obama was defied by netanyahu before on iran and a lot of other subjects, as well as vice president biden and now president biden, but the eye on the prize is a saudi reconciliation with israel, a larger arab peace, economic benefits for the region. this is a dream, perhaps, but it's not without possibilities if they could get this war over with, have the arabs rebuilding and helping to secure gaza. that's the dream that antony blinken has been trying to sell and most importantly get the hostages out. netanyahu is under these competing pressures to defeat hamas, which even his own generals think is completely possible, but get the leadership and try to get the hostages out. you can't get -- you can't save the hostages and also obliterate the tunnels. that's not going to be possible. his own jenles are saying that. as you further radicalize the palestinians the civilians in gaza, with this catastrophe of, you know, epic proportions now, you're radicalizing
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rhodes msnbc political contributor.itial response to the latest round of attacks, what kind of impact, if any do you think, this attack will have on the kinetic dynamics in the region, both among the iraqi militias and the houthis? >> yes, what we will have to do is wait on the battle assessments that will come out of both of these attacks. the attacks that occurred yesterday, which were in direct response to our troops being killed in iraq. and then the separate attacks, all fill a common threat, in response to the houthis interfering with international trade and also interfering with freedom and navigation. and so what i think is going to happen and all of this play here is, as we continue to move out these layers, we cannot afford to have a direct conflict with iran, and iran cannot afford to have a direct conflict with us. and so if we continue in this route, every day that goes by with the gaza war occurring between israel and hamas, we are moving one step closer to that all out conflict. and so, we must institute
rhodes msnbc political contributor.itial response to the latest round of attacks, what kind of impact, if any do you think, this attack will have on the kinetic dynamics in the region, both among the iraqi militias and the houthis? >> yes, what we will have to do is wait on the battle assessments that will come out of both of these attacks. the attacks that occurred yesterday, which were in direct response to our troops being killed in iraq. and then the separate attacks, all fill a...
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nbc's military analyst and former deputy -- ben rhodes, msnbc political contributor and former deputy president obama. general twitty, all join -- i'll start with you, and get your initial response to this latest round of attacks and what kind of impact, if, any that you think this attack will have on the kinetic dynamics in the region, both among the iraqi militias, and the houthis. >> yeah, i think what we will have to do is wait on the battle damage assessments that will come hot on both of these attacks, the attacks that occurred yesterday, which were in direct response to our troops, getting killed in iraq, then these separate attacks, although a very common threat in response to the houthis interfering with international trade and also interfering with freedom and navigation. so what i think is going to happen in all this, is as we contain a moved on these letters, we cannot afford to have a direct conflict with iran. and iran cannot afford to have a direct conflict with us. so, if we continue in this route, every day that goes by, with the gaza war occurring, between israel and
nbc's military analyst and former deputy -- ben rhodes, msnbc political contributor and former deputy president obama. general twitty, all join -- i'll start with you, and get your initial response to this latest round of attacks and what kind of impact, if, any that you think this attack will have on the kinetic dynamics in the region, both among the iraqi militias, and the houthis. >> yeah, i think what we will have to do is wait on the battle damage assessments that will come hot on...
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and that dynamic has to change. >> ben rhodes, thank you very much, ben. >>> and south carolina scramblecatch up to donald trump in her home state's primary. my psoriatic arthritis symptoms. but just ok isn't ok. and i was done settling. if you still have symptoms after a tnf blocker like humira or enbrel, rinvoq is different and may help. rinvoq is a once-daily pill that can rapidly relieve joint pain, stiffness, and swelling in ra and psa. relieve fatigue for some... and stop joint damage. and in psa, can leave skin clear or almost clear. rinvoq can lower your ability to fight infections, including tb. serious infections and blood clots, some fatal; cancers, including lymphoma and skin; heart attack, stroke, and gi tears occurred. people 50 and older with a heart disease risk factor have an increased risk of death. serious allergic reactions can occur. tell your doctor if you are or may become pregnant. done settling? ask your rheumatologist for rinvoq. and take back what's yours. abbvie could help you save. are you taking the right multi-vitamin? with new chapter, you get excellent qu
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also with us, ben rhodes, former deputy national security adviser and msnbc political contributor.enskyy made those comments to you. what else did he tell you about how in his mind the war is progressing and where it stands right now? >> reporter: well, i think he openly acknowledged that this is a difficult time, that russia is in the midst of a new counteroffensive that began in october which he expects to intensify over the next two months, that russia did this to capitalize on the fact that ukraine is running low on supplies right now, both weapons and ammunition, that aid is held up by washington, held up by congress, particularly the house, and that russia sees this and is pushing, is using the leverage that it has, which is its greater numbers, greater military industrial base. he said that unless they get help soon, more ukrainians are going to lose their lives. he did not, however, believe that this war is hopeless. i think that is one of the things he wanted to stress. he thinks that ukraine can do this, they just need the weapons, need the supports, which is something he
also with us, ben rhodes, former deputy national security adviser and msnbc political contributor.enskyy made those comments to you. what else did he tell you about how in his mind the war is progressing and where it stands right now? >> reporter: well, i think he openly acknowledged that this is a difficult time, that russia is in the midst of a new counteroffensive that began in october which he expects to intensify over the next two months, that russia did this to capitalize on the...
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let's bring in former deputy national security adviser ben rhodes. okay, ben, i love explainers. can we put the map back up. i love seeing you, but i want to get the map up one more time. for people to understand what's going on and look at this map, you have this situation that begins with hamas attacking israel. israel then going to war in gaza. and then reaction of that ends up being against u.s. and european ships in the red sea, which you can see straight down the middle next to saudi arabia, between saudi arabia and egypt, so shipping that really is european, israeli, and american shipping. and now, attacks inside of jordan. you can see the right up there, that ends up injuring some 50-odd american troops and killing three. just to have people sort of understand why it is that the u.s. winds up in this position, because it is -- the u.s. is seen as the backer of israel. so whatever they do, people attribute it in some sense to us. and then iran is the backer of all these little groups. two called hezbollah. hamas, and the houthis. have i explained that correctly, that this
let's bring in former deputy national security adviser ben rhodes. okay, ben, i love explainers. can we put the map back up. i love seeing you, but i want to get the map up one more time. for people to understand what's going on and look at this map, you have this situation that begins with hamas attacking israel. israel then going to war in gaza. and then reaction of that ends up being against u.s. and european ships in the red sea, which you can see straight down the middle next to saudi...
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we're back with tim heaphy and ben rhodes. tim, let's talk about this for a second. on the wrong side of judgments. there are people who think people are wrongfully convicted, but this has reached a new level. it's not just donald trump and marjorie taylor greene and a bunch of assorted others, elise stefanik was on meet the press a few weeks ago when kristen welker asked her about these defendants and those who have been convicted, she referred to them as hostages. why are these judges so concerned by what this one judge calls the mainstreaming of this weirdness? >> because, ali, we've seen what rhetoric translates into on the ground. there's no better and emphatic example of that than january 6th when the former president says we have to fight like hell or we're not going to have a country anymore, people take that seriously. so when he and others are calling these people political prisoners or hostages, this is not simply rhetorical. there are a lot of people in this country who take that seriously and who are prepared to act on it. let's talk for a minute about r
we're back with tim heaphy and ben rhodes. tim, let's talk about this for a second. on the wrong side of judgments. there are people who think people are wrongfully convicted, but this has reached a new level. it's not just donald trump and marjorie taylor greene and a bunch of assorted others, elise stefanik was on meet the press a few weeks ago when kristen welker asked her about these defendants and those who have been convicted, she referred to them as hostages. why are these judges so...
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rhodes.uthorityians like vladimir putin, xi jinping, what they're thinking right now. >> well, i mean, this is exactly what they want. and it's already having impact. i think other countries are beginning to game out the scenario as we were just talking about where the u.s. is basically pulling out of nato and leaving europe to its own devices. and to be clear, the way in which nato is designed, even if all those countries are paying up to the 2% commitment of gdp for their defense, it is still the fact that -- we had contingency plans in the obama administration. in any contingency in which eastern european countries like the baltic states that are along the periphery of nato, in any case in which they're attacked nato's plans involve the united states providing support. they're not going to be able to defend themselves effectively without the united states. so if you're putin you're thinking, well, i don't need to negotiate anything with ukrainians, i just need to hold the territory i have
rhodes.uthorityians like vladimir putin, xi jinping, what they're thinking right now. >> well, i mean, this is exactly what they want. and it's already having impact. i think other countries are beginning to game out the scenario as we were just talking about where the u.s. is basically pulling out of nato and leaving europe to its own devices. and to be clear, the way in which nato is designed, even if all those countries are paying up to the 2% commitment of gdp for their defense, it is...
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rhodes. can you give me a sense of the type of planning that goes into an attack like this? >> this definitely feels like a direct retaliatory strike. perhaps this commander was involved, we don't know yet, but could have been involved in some of the planning around attacks in the united states. the united states monitors and gathers intelligence on a group like kataib hezbollah kh because they're regularly involved in attacks on u.s. facilities or troops dating back to the last days of the iraq war. this goes back a decade, and so it would be the normal course of action that you have intelligence that you've been gathering on this group, after an attack like what we saw that killed three u.s. service members, you probably really ramp up efforts to try to identify who might have been responsible, where they are, track their movements, have some obviously overhead capacity to see where someone like this is moving, and then a decision is teed up to the president probably, if it's involving a st
rhodes. can you give me a sense of the type of planning that goes into an attack like this? >> this definitely feels like a direct retaliatory strike. perhaps this commander was involved, we don't know yet, but could have been involved in some of the planning around attacks in the united states. the united states monitors and gathers intelligence on a group like kataib hezbollah kh because they're regularly involved in attacks on u.s. facilities or troops dating back to the last days of...
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it is an ambition that ben rhodes, under barack obama and now an msnbc contributor, knows all too wellor two states, the mass displacement of the palestinian people, or a permanent reality in which palestinians live as subjugated peoples within a greater israel? there is not another option here. there's not. >> reporter: why didn't president obama do it? he had eight years. >> look, we tried. we tried two rounds of peace negotiations. >> reporter: these days, hamas and israel seem more apart than ever, and neither seems interested in peace. israel is continuing its assault on the gaza strip in response to hamas' october 7th attacks. hamas is designated as a terrorist organization by the u.s., which has excluded it from participation in a future state, and israel's far-right leadership, led by benjamin netanyahu, has worked against palestinian statehood for decades. >> anyone who wants security must do anything within its powers to say no to palestinian state. >> reporter: a leader from the far-right zionist party has a seat in the cabinet. >> it'll be easier for them to kill us all? it
it is an ambition that ben rhodes, under barack obama and now an msnbc contributor, knows all too wellor two states, the mass displacement of the palestinian people, or a permanent reality in which palestinians live as subjugated peoples within a greater israel? there is not another option here. there's not. >> reporter: why didn't president obama do it? he had eight years. >> look, we tried. we tried two rounds of peace negotiations. >> reporter: these days, hamas and israel...