bohdan ferens, candidate of political science, international expert, was with us. unfortunately, we have disappointing news from odessa, where the fifth victim of tonight's russian attack was discovered there. the emergency services reported. that the body of another person was found on the first floor, unfortunately, we see that the consequences of russian shelling every time more tragic, so we remind you to be active , financially, to donate and support our defenders, because every such fee, every hryvnia that either the state, or we, or western partners, anyone, invests in weapons, in defense, in what our defenders need, this is actually at least a small, but... a step in the direction of our victory, and this is what saves the lives of our defenders, well, we still remember the commercials on tv with oksana, for 40 million there and so on, now there are 31 million people left in ukraine mass return of people who left is low, here is an interesting interview, our colleague vitaly portnikov spoke with ela libanova, director of the institute of demography and soci